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26:34Meaning, let's work on creating those good habits with those children and not putting the pressure of the grade or what college they're going to go to. I mean, there's parents out there that are banging on their 10-year-olds to get great grades so they can go to Harvard. Like that is a highly stressful situation. So what the child is hearing, not that my parent wants the best for me. It's if I don't go to Harvard, I'm going to fail my parents. And then there's a, there's a big undercurrent fear there. And I just, I just think that, you know, for anybody, you know, a parent or child going back to school, it's like, just be present and do the best you can.

27:14Because at the end of the day, that's all that matters. You know, it doesn't matter if you work your ass off and you get a C plus on a, on an exam. am. That should not make you upset because you did your best. Now you build on those skills and now your baseline is a C plus, but maybe in three weeks, you take that test, another test again, and you're at a B minus. So now we're moving, right? So it's about progression. I feel, whether it's a school year or even in parenting is like, let's try to get better every second and support the children and the children support the parents by doing what they're supposed to do by respecting the school, respecting the teachers and respecting their time and their studies.

27:50I like that. The reason I was asking, so I was trying to see if it was CEO, Sean, dad, Sean, husband, Sean, coach. I think it's, I think it's like everything in between. Right. I think that that answer there is like all of me. Correct. And I know I was asking specifically about back to school. And I guess where I looked at that is, you know, and Marina and I were actually talking about this on, you know, back and forth, you know, Instagram videos or whatever, but I'm, I don't want to say it this way. Cause it sounds kind of negative, but there's no other way to say it. Like, I know that my kids don't listen to a lot of what I say.

28:22That's not negative. I think I know they listen to me and they'll do what they're told. But as far as like, they can't grasp a lot of what I'm saying is they haven't had 43 years on this earth. And so for me, it's about trying to not teach them and, you know, bump and steer and tell them where they're wrong. And I'm not saying I do a good job of this, but to me, I look at the Thomas S and the Gary V and say, if I can do something this year, it's not about, you know, making sure that they're on time and all that like obviously that's important but it's how can i instill a crazy amount of confidence in them because they're amazing people and so if i can be the one person that is just that is my one and only job is just to say i see you i see what you're doing and i'm going to instill so much freaking confidence in you i like that i the answer to that is praise their hard work right don't praise their performance it happens in school and happens in sports and everybody's praising performance.

29:17Now praise the work, praise the effort that right there, I think is a great learning tool for everybody involved. Thank you. Yeah. I want to talk about some of the segments that we've had, cause we talked about them last time. Some of the questions that we ask, you know, off air, you know, kind of getting some of the guests ready. I'm certainly determination is because of the name of the show. What I love about these questions. So the two questions I want to kind of hone in on for a second is number one, there's two types of people in this world. What are they? and around the upcoming book. And number two is what is their walk-up song?

29:49And so I know we talked about it last time, but just for the people that didn't hear it, it was a conversation we were talking about when you were at LSU, when I was at JU. What was your walk-up song, your hype song? And what I love about this is, A, we've got the playlist and the frequency. So please go subscribe and follow the playlist. Spotify. It's on Spotify. It's updated weekly with the bangers from high performers. But I look at this and what I love about it is, and we've talked about this is how much it tells about these guests. When you have these questions, two types of people, their walk-up song, what does determination mean to them?

30:24Because the story is amazing. Obviously that's why we're having them on, but you see the person that you're about to interview because of the way that they're answering those questions. And I've been a part of a few of them, but talk to me a little bit just about the whole project and how it's kind of opening them up a little bit more and gives you some insight into who this cat is sitting next to you. It's really cool because like those questions are asked pre-interview. Right. And I don't put them out there yet, but yet, but the cool thing about it is like, to your point, you can see what makes them tick in those early questions.

30:56And you can start to, for me, what it does is it gives me a feel for not just who they are, but their speech pattern, how they like to speak. So it gives me the opportunity to, to not say dictate, but identify how I craft my conversation with this person. my wheels are always turning behind the scene right i'm like okay he or she's talking like this these are the types of words they're using this is the energy or they're more you know or they're lower so i need to make sure that i stay in this until i warm them up a little bit more but the cool thing is is like what what lights people up is they start talking about music and then it what it ties in for me is like man we're all the same we look for inspiration anywhere we can go we always want that feel and it just shows that humans are wired for energy and music gives us that and that's why we called it the frequency right but that specific question kind of you know some of the song choices i'm like i don't get it i i don't i don't i'm like how does that pump you up get you going yeah like vowels vowels is stevie wonder as i'm like okay i'll put it on like it's vowels yes vowels yeah i had a question about that i didn't know who and i'm like where Who the heck is this?

32:10But it's Stevie Wonder, so it's okay. Now that I know it's Val's, it's all right. Val does. She's a secret weapon, man. She does what she wants. We let her. But the one, like most recently, Shannon Watts, New York Times bestseller. We just interviewed her, I think this week sometime. And she wrote a book called Fired Up about how for women to find and ignite their spark, no matter what age they are. Her song was Come On Eileen. and I'm like, oh my God, that fires me up. I just forgot about the song, love the song, put on the playlist and I was jamming to it and I took a picture of it and sent it to her and she laughed, you know?

32:47So it's cool because you get this person, like what inspires them, what types of music inspire them. And that tells a lot about them as an individual, right? That I can actually extract good conversation from. The other one, the two types of people, you know, who are, what are they? I love that because it gives people, You see a higher perspective of how people see the world at that point. Right. And these are the most common thoughts that they go through every day. Two types of people, you know, are you igniter or you're a distinguisher? Like whatever it is, like you get to see the two levels of playing field here that they're really evaluating daily.

33:25So it says a lot about them, like not in a bad way, but it just it gives an insight of like, I know how your brain thinks now. because it's always snap judgment right there's no pre-question like hey we're gonna ask you this it's just what are they and it's and so to the point of which character of that person sitting across from you is going to answer yeah right we were talking about like is it going to be the athlete the ceo the dad the father who's going to answer different roles man and so it just allows you to see like okay you see people in these two buckets not good bad it's just how you classify people.

34:00And I just, I love that we're doing them and we do need to start putting them out. Yeah. As far as the songs we do, um, on a regular basis, we're going to keep putting them out. So people can see like, why is this song on the playlist? Now I know Val's Stevie wonder, but like we talked about to know, like, Oh, this is Elena's song or Jamie Kennedy or Jeff or whoever. Like, it's fun to know that, you know, if you enjoy these people, you can say, Hey, this is their banger song. And now you can, maybe you can feel like Gronk and get in the gym and hype up to his song. Pretty cool, man. It's pretty cool.

34:28One other one I want to talk about, because we've had, you know, we're leaning a little bit into more of the current events and trying to stay relevant of just what's going on in the world with Camp Mystic. Oh, God. Yeah. And I'm not going to go too far into it. I'm good, man. I think one thing that I want to hit on is because I know in the episode at the end off camera, you actually got to meet the girls that were there. so just talk to me about a people that don't know what camp mystic is quickly about the episode um and then getting to meet them yeah so um july early july 4th you know in houston i'm not houston but sorry texas um you know this church camp um it's been there for over 100 years it's kind of a rite of passage for these families in this community to send their children there it's like something that they look forward to from a little kid you have to put an application in like you want your child to go there when she's 10 or he's 10, like you got to put the application in when they're like two, that's the demand for it is freaking wild.

35:28And so they drop their, their, their children off and, you know, it's 4th of July and everybody's, you know, really focused on the festivities of their town, the parades, the food, the, the fellowship, the community, the fireworks. And they started getting reports that there was a massive flood where their children were at. And so for a small period of time, and thankfully for Amy Key and her husband, there was only like a two hour period where they really didn't know what was going on with their daughters. They got an email stating, if you're getting this email and you haven't heard from us otherwise, we have located your child and they are safe.

36:07and so you know that right there you know as they're driving there to the reunification point to meet everybody they they were they had the opportunity to have a sense of peace come over them knowing that they didn't have to drive the full five hours wondering if their daughters were alive or not this story hits me hard because there's children involved right and you know there was a lot of flooding going around that area there was there was a lot of other people that lost their lives too, but the focus was on Camp Mystic because it was such a big story. And just to talk to Amy and for her to communicate to me that their daughters said, if we were in that other cabin, we would have drowned.

36:51And there was a potential that they would have been in that other cabin because that was their age group. And if they weren't, they were in the other one and they were spared. But for a child of like 10 and eight or however those girls were now they know their own mortality. Like what the fuck, man? Like that's so sad. So her, their story was happy because they were reunified with, with their children. And when she brought them in at the end, we didn't record it. We didn't put it out there because I didn't think it was right. But they brought, it brought the, you know, puckering up a little bit I had the lump in my throat the tears welling up in my eyes just see like those girls are actually my daughter's age and I started thinking like me is not a great swimmer you know what Alina I mean like I started thinking like if that my child like I don't I don't know what would have happened and so it really connects you know current events or human interest pieces to the fact that like, guys, if you look long enough, this is not just so far removed from you.

38:04This could happen anywhere. And are, are your children in a place where they could fight for their lives? Are they, are they strong swimmers? Like all these things I start thinking about, it's just like, damn, it's super heavy. But to see the girls, man, it was crazy because like, Hey, what are you guys doing? Like nothing. and jamie's like well aren't you telling me you're gonna go to cheer and like oh yeah we're gonna go to cheer but then i'm like yeah you could see like they're not like totally excited but also they were going to their cheer school where they lost some other people it's like this is hitting them in fact the the the two sisters that they found holding each other was their friends that that that to me is something a kid should never have to go through I mean, and let's be very clear, a parent going through losing their child is the most fucked up thing, in my opinion, in this world.

39:02And for it to happen in an area that you've been, right? And you've gone to that camp yourself. You know the tradition. It's part of the culture. For it to happen there, I mean, that's just debilitating, man. i i know that was a hard one but yeah to be able to meet them um yeah all right well let's bring it back up then hey hey um hey all right so i do want to bring one one last thing actually two more things up um number one i gotta talk about happy gilmore too we watched it last night we got somebody talking about we got some work done yeah and then we decide to watch this because we hadn't seen it you me jackie yeah and i've seen reports that it's not as funny as the first one but i've also seen the article as well if you don't think it's this funny maybe you just got old and grumpy that's got to be it that's got to be it well i think it's also expectations too right you got to understand adam sandler's like what how many years older was it 29 30 years 30 years 30 years right or something crazy like that i don't know it could be off don't judge me on my math guys check that one guys um but but i thought the movie was so funny and so genius the amount of tie-ins with all the cameos, even Rob Schneider came in and dropped another line from water boy.

40:16That wasn't even involved in happy Gilmore. If you don't see the fucking genius in that, like you're not paying attention. The other thing that I thought was really great that you and I were talking about was the marketing campaigns within that thing. Like Dunkin' Donut, like he was, he was funneling beer, coffee bonging. Yeah. Coffee bonging. But at the same time, the thing that I really enjoyed about that movie was obviously because it's nostalgic, right? To see another happy Gilmore and to see him fight through adversity. And I think that's what people really love to see is fighting through adversity.

40:50He was fighting through alcoholism. How many people, you know, in this age group are fighting through alcoholism and just to, you know, see it on a movie of the struggle, the progression, the backslide. and finally overcoming it and winning, I just thought was pretty damn genius in my book. It was. We talked about it. I know Jackie was saying it's so hard to do a sequel after this long and all that, but I think they did a fantastic job. They killed it. I don't know what people are talking about. We just had to give it five stars from us too. You know, like go watch the movie. I tell you what I didn't like.

41:25I thought it was so fucked up. In the opening scene, they killed his wife. I did not expect that. By his own golf ball. By the way, spoiler alert, if you've not seen it. Whatever. If you haven't seen it yet, shame on you. Like, yeah, we're a few weeks in there. Come on, figure your life out. I had to talk about it because it was just part of the trip today. All right. This time. All right. Coming up, where are some things that we've recorded? I know we've talked about one, but anything that you want to let people know, you got to reward them for watching the pulse, right? So what have we recorded that either that we've recorded that's coming up or stuff that we have?

41:56I'm not going to go out to November. we're saving that one. So no, like I said, you know, Earl Charles Spencer was a pretty cool episode. Floyd Raglan's dropping by the time this is out. So that'll already be out. But we've had some really cool authors this week that we've spoken to. Andrea Bartz, who wrote The Last Fairy Out, psychological thriller on an island, investigative, like it's really freaking cool. And she was just an amazing, amazing interview. Good human being, like absolutely enjoyed my time with her. Another one is Shannon Watts with Fired Up. I briefly spoke about it. It's a really good book.

42:35She's a really great person. She's an activist and she's built such an amazing platform for herself and for mothers. And I just really enjoyed her. What else? We've got some more authors coming. We've got my boy Mick Hunt coming on next week. That's going to be, it's going to be a lot of fun. And we're building out, like you said, I don't want to give up too much, but we're building out another California trip as we speak for September. It's like, dude, there's just so much fun shit going on. I got a lot going on. Yeah, we sure do. Well, that's all I got for us, man. This is, this has been a good one.

43:11No AMAs? No AMAs? Nothing? There were some weird ones. I'll give you one. Okay. You want to, you want to end before, as you say, we land the plane. Yeah, it's whatever, man. So actually this is, it's a good one from Andrew. Okay. So, you know, I'm talking about burnout. OK, and it's the way. All right. Let me rephrase this because he did ask about burnout. But everyone that I'm close with is dealing with something huge right now, like huge. And it could be good stuff, bad stuff. But I just feel like everyone I know is struggling in some way, either struggling to get to the finish line on a project or really struggling in their personal life.

43:52with some big stuff. So as you think through everyone that we've talked to recently, all the interviews, all the stuff that's going on in your personal life right now, like what can you, what can you say to someone that's really struggling with burnout specifically and dealing with just kind of a barrage of shit? Burnout's real, right? And I think it's when you try to do too much too fast and think that you can do it for an extended period of time. Finding things that are sustainable is super important, man. Like in, in doing what feels good in that moment, I'm not talking about, it feels good to go to a bar and, you know, drink a 12, you know, 12 beers from a tap.

44:31Like that felt good. Well, that's not going to get you any closer to not being burned out. In fact, it's going to extrapolate that feeling even more the next day. You're going to wake up feeling even more burned out, even more stressed and anxious because you had all that alcohol. But really where I'm going with this is man is doing what feels good. Like if you're stuck at work, let's just say, and you hate your job, you hate your boss, you hate your coworkers, everything about it is so screwed up. You just want to get out of that situation, then take care of what's in front of you. Do one small task that feels good and then take a break and then build on that.

45:13And then soon what people will realize is whether it's in fitness, mental health, or, you know, entrepreneurship, or even working in a, you know, fortune 500 company is you will start to gain some momentum and you have some real results. And that burnout tends to start to fade away because you realize that you don't have to conquer everything that moment. You can do it in stages. I think people try to get everything done at one time and it's just, it, it's, it's not sustainable. So, you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text. But which you do you listen to? Is it, We could buy a house in Tulum!

45:55Get optioning those options! We could lose everything. Or, let's do a little research. Get your head in the trade and make the investment decision that's right for you. Learn more at finra.org slash trade smart. I would agree. And I think one thing I want to really hone in on there is if it makes you feel good, there is a big difference between instant gratification and something that's going to make you feel good. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Hammering 12 beers in the moment, out with your boys, whatever feels good. Yeah. But wait, no, it's instant gratification. There it is. Instant gratification.

46:37I lost seat. See, it's okay. I'm tracking you, baby. I was ready like five minutes I mean, we got time and let's just keep it cracking. It's instant gratification, but it's not going to make you feel good. So when you think about the things that you're doing on a daily basis, and we've talked about this before, the things that you know you should stop doing. Right. When you look at all the things really, you know what you should be doing, what you shouldn't be doing. And there are some things like eating a pound of, you know, a carton of ice cream at night, instant gratification. And you may say, well, this makes me feel good and it's comfort.

47:05And this is how I unwind. But if you're trying to lose weight and not be inflamed and feel good tomorrow, then that's not actually making you feel good. So I think there's a big distinction there of something that's going to make you feel good could be washing your car because it's been dirty for a week. Yeah. Or cleaning it, cleaning the inside out. So your environment's clean, right? You don't want a cluttered environment because it clutters your environment in your dome, right? In between your ears. So it's just doing the things that are going to help you, right? And do them small and celebrate that.

47:35Be proud of yourself and do it over and over again. And eventually you'll realize that you don't have to do everything at one time. Patrick Young and I talked about this and he was my first episode of Two Types of People. And he was telling me this story. So I don't know if he got there or not, but when he was at University of Florida, they were number one team in the nation. They went to the final four and ended up losing. But when they were number one team in the nation, he was telling me this story about this shell drill that they did. So it's just routine basics for those who don't know what a shell drill is.

48:05he said at some point in the season they're like dude we're number one in the nation we've been running this stinking thing for months and months and months like enough and the coaches kept hammering us about the little things about repetition he said in the sec championship they were you know it's basically a tie game or they're up by one against kentucky kentucky ran the same set that florida had been practicing against the entire year in that shell drill and so he talked about the little things that you have to do and so what he and i talked about was the little things like you know they sound fluffy and just like they're not going to work right like oh journaling gratitude you know prayer whatever your thing is but it's those little things that when you do them going to the gym on a regular basis it's really doing those things that in the end will make you feel good but they may not feel good right away right like getting back into it going to the gym, it's hard.

49:00Sucks doing some of the stuff that we have to do on a regular basis sucks, but when it goes well, yeah, it feels good. Well, that's the thing about preparation, right? That's really what it's about is, is being prepared. And so when you prepare, then those moments that you don't think that you're ever going to see a, you get lucky and they're there and then you can win the ball game, right? Or when the, when the competition or the, the game of life or whatever it is for you, right? I just think that not judging the moment and trust. If you're on a team, whether it's on the court, on a field, corporate, you know, podcast, you have to trust.

49:41There's a moment where, okay, this may not be my way. And I don't know why we're doing this. I didn't know why we were doing the pulse. I didn't know why we were doing the frequency of the, I'm like, what the fuck? Like another thing, but like now Now I trusted it. Now it makes sense. And we've gotten great feedback from it because it gives people a peak of something different in, in the show and me and the whole brand, so to speak. Right. So it's about trusting and you don't need to know when that moment's going to come. Like, why are we practicing this? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because eventually you practice in a practice it enough.

50:18You summon that shit at some point in your life and down the road, that's your moment. And if you didn't do the work here, you're not going to excel and win here. So do the work, excel here. People always talk about the price of admission, right? You got to get a seat at the table. And that right there is the part that's missing because it takes a lot to get to the table, to get your proverbial seat and all that. But once you get there, you still have to perform. If you haven't done those basics, if you haven't done the little things, and it could be a gratitude list, it could be doing, you know, choosing X over Y, whatever that is.

50:51but I think it's the determination because it ain't motivation. No, dude, I'm motivated very little, man. It's the initial spark. It has to be there. And it usually is. I was motivated to start the show, but I'm motivated every single day that I'm executing conversations and recordings and the backend stuff, the Tuesday morning meetings, the, the, you know, the collaborations that I have every single day on the phone. I'm not always motivated to do it, but I know where it's going to take me. And so that discipline kicks into a point where like, this is part of it. This is the price of admission.

51:29This is what I asked for. And too many people out there that are watching and listening, like they're thinking like, oh gosh, I asked for this. And I'm complaining about it. No, I accept that shit because it's a gift. I mean, that's my definition of determination is remembering why you started in the first place. Yeah. Right. Because there, there are seasons, not just days moments. I mean, there are seasons where it is just not, it doesn't feel good. Like I'm not telling other people, like it just doesn't feel good to keep doing some of these things, but it's not necessarily, again, what makes me feel good.

52:05What makes me feel good is not going to the gym sometimes and sitting around and doing jack shit. But going in the end makes me feel good. Because we're put here to work, man. Like if you skimp out on work and then you look yourself in the eye every night when you brush your teeth, what are you staring at? What do you stand for? But if you do all the shit, good, bad, or indifferent, you do it with a positive mind and with intention, you're going to sleep a lot better at night, man. That's the thing that I've learned. There you go. that was the only AMA I wanted to bring to you that's a good one that was a good one we're going to keep doing it so next month we'll get out we just did one quick post on this one just because we were running a little short on time but yeah we'll figure out a way so for the next one we'll make sure that people that have been listening fans of the show can ask Sean or me anything they want and we'll either directly just Q &A it or heck we may go down a tangent y 'all didn't want us to go down but we'll save that for next time So man, good to be back in Fort Myers.

53:09Thank you. That was awesome. So the audience listening, thank you so much. Share the pulse episode with someone, you know, love and trust, you know, Hey, just keep following along. We're going to give a lot of peeks behind the curtain here. And as always, until next time, stay determined.

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