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The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Mastering Growth Momentum: Unveiling Your Agency's True North
Host
John Jantsch
Guest
Frank Cowell, Chief Revenue Boss at Revenue Ranch
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Episode Overview In this episode, John Jantsch interviews Frank Cowell, a seasoned entrepreneur, speaker, and author with over 20 years of experience in sales, marketing, and leadership. Frank shares insights from his work at Revenue Ranch, focusing on agency growth and the importance of defining a clear strategic direction, referred to as "True North."
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Key Concepts and Discussions
- True North
- Definition: True North represents the strategic direction for a business, crucial for guiding decision-making and aligning teams.
- Significance: Establishing a clear True North helps to create focus and momentum, essential for agency growth.
- Implementation: Leaders should ensure that all plans and actions align with this strategic direction.
- Identifying Blockers to Growth
- Primary Focus: Determine the number one blocker hindering growth and address it systematically.
- Quarterly Cycles: Frank emphasizes the importance of regularly analyzing and chipping away at these obstacles in manageable increments.
- Seven Core Capabilities: Understanding the capabilities that drive growth within a business is essential. They include:
- True North
- Exceptional execution
- World-class offerings
- Systematic sales process
- Lead generation
- Empowered work experience
- Cash and profit optimization
- Creating Momentum
- Definition: Momentum is described as an infectious energy that propels a business forward.
- Cultivating Momentum: Agencies must focus on the right priorities and allocate resources effectively.
- Cultural Impact: A culture of winning, fostered by consistent progress and achievement, enhances team morale and engagement.
- Navigating Technological Changes
- Adaptability: Agencies need to embrace evolving technologies and maintain intimate knowledge of their audience to stay relevant.
- Community Engagement: Building relationships allows agencies to facilitate discussions about technological advancements and how they impact clients.
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Insights from Frank Cowell
- Journey to Entrepreneurship: Frank shares his background in sales and early ventures into web development, which laid the groundwork for his current focus on agency growth.
- Building Relationships: Emphasizes the importance of leveraging relationships and understanding client needs in a changing marketing landscape.
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Resources
- Book: [Building Your Digital Utopia](https://www.amazon.com/Building-Your-Digital-Utopia-Systematically/dp/1544506147/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1SM4CK62PJAW7&keywords=Building+Your+Digital+Utopia&qid=1700521003&sprefix=building+your+digital+utopia%2Caps%2C276&sr=8-1)
- Website: [Revenue Ranch](http://www.revenueranch.com)
- Growth Momentum Roadmap Tool: [growthmomentumroadmap.com](http://growthmomentumroadmap.com) - A tool to identify business blockers to growth.
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Episode Promotion This episode is sponsored by ActiveCampaign, which offers marketing automation tools for small businesses. A special promotion for new customers is available until December 31, 2023.
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Conclusion The episode offers valuable insights into mastering growth momentum for agencies and underscores the necessity of having a clear strategic direction, effective execution, and an adaptive mindset to thrive amidst technological changes. Frank Cowell's expertise and practical strategies provide actionable advice for agency owners seeking to elevate their business success.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Hello and welcome to another episode of the duct tape marketing podcast. This is John Chance and my guest today is Frank Calwell. He is a speaker, bestselling author, and entrepreneur, currently serves as the chief revenue boss at Revenue Ranch. He works regularly with business owners and executives who are looking to grow faster. He's also the author of Building Your Digital Utopia, which details a concept he pioneered to help brands create digital experiences that systematically accelerate growth. So Frank, welcome to the show. Hey, John, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here. So a couple of things.
0:43I want to get in a little bit into your, I love always to hear, you know, people's entrepreneur journey, like how'd you get here, right? But I want to focus on one thing. Revenue Ranch is your company. You've given yourself the title Chief Revenue Boss. Does that imply kind of automatically what you think is the most important role for you currently in that business? Or is that just what needed to be filled? You know, I think for me, the play on the revenue ranch aspect. So boss is a common term on a ranch and then revenue tying into the company name. Ultimately, it's my job to create direction for the company.
1:20But in this chapter of my life, after having exited an agency, this business is less about growing a massive team of people and more so about working with agency owners as they try to navigate this journey of being an agency owner. So I help guide them on that journey and we put a program together to make that happen. So Chief Revenue Boss is more so just a tie into the company name and that kind of ranch theming. Yeah, well, I guess what I was getting at a little bit is I see a lot of business owners, let's call them, you know, rather than CEOs, you know, who really think like, you know, revenue and vision and maybe culture are like my only real jobs because they're so down in the weeds, you know, doing everything else.
2:04And I think it almost feels like a luxury, you know, if you get to a point in your business where you can say, look, these are the only three things that I need to focus on because they're the only three things that matter necessarily to scaling. What's interesting about the CEO role is the CEO is responsible for what I call True North. Yeah. And it sounds simple, but it's a massive decision to make regarding what goes into creating True North. And then, oh, by the way, making sure that the decisions within the company and how you align the team so that they all are inspired by, they're clear on True North.
2:43and they also make decisions about True North, that's a very big deal, even though it sounds simple on paper. And then ultimately, if we look at the KPIs, if you will, of the other functions in the business, the major functions, those aren't directly the responsibility of the CEO, but indirectly they are. If you were to go to the shareholders or the board, quote unquote, they don't really care that there's a head of marketing responsible for active lead generation that ultimately is going to fall on the CEO shoulders as to why the company isn't growing at a respectable rate. So it's kind of a yin and yang thing there.
3:19Yeah. No, I actually agree with you. I think that a lot of people, it's easy to explain the concept and a lot of books do of True North. It's probably the hardest thing to actually get to around to getting right. And I think that's where people are really struggling. Give us a little bit of a snippet of your journey to how you got here. You talked about owning an agency already, and obviously we know what you're doing today, but it's always kind of fun. I think to kind of go through like what molded you, you know, to, to this place. Yeah. So I've always been a salesperson at heart. Ever since I was a kid, I was in love with this idea of product and creating a business and selling things and moving something into a market and satisfying the market.
4:02Even as a kid, I would order these products that I was responsible for selling. And my parents would be like, what did you just commit to? There's hundreds of dollars of stuff that's in our house now that you have to go and sell. I was like 12 years old. And so I've just always been that way. And if we fast forward, along comes the information superhighway. That's what we called it back then, the internet, the worldwide way. We called it the information superhighway. And there was a big theme back then of the information superhighway is coming. That was the big message out there. And none of us really knew what that was.
4:38Well, me being very curious, I started dabbling and trying to figure out what is this thing? And it wasn't long before I said, I could probably sell stuff on this thing. And that's when I launched my first webpage through my America Online web space. and I paid some guy 50 bucks to do it. I found him on America Online. And at the time, 50 bucks, I had to ask my wife for$50. I said, is it okay if I spend$50? That was a big deal to me back then. And so she said, sure, I believe in all your crazy wacky ideas. So I got this thing uploaded and I was selling some information products. And then I decided I wanted to change it.
5:18And I was like, oh, this guy's gonna want 50 bucks again. And then I thought to myself, Frank, you know computers. And back in junior high, you did a certain amount of programming that you learned. I could probably figure this out. So I cracked open a text editor and lo and behold, I saw the words on the screen that I wanted to change. I changed it, saved it, uploaded it. And my mind was forever blown. I was like, oh my gosh, the power I now possess. So that led me on a journey to teaching myself how to program. I started programming in flat file databases using a language called Perl back then.
5:56We're talking, this was the late nineties, by the way. And so when it comes to the internet, I'm an old guy. And so that led me into creating my own content management system. And then I launched a web design shop and then that eventually morphed into, you know, a branding agency and creative agency. And, you know, I went through that whole journey, did, you know, M &A type stuff. And, and then last year I exited my agency. So yeah, it kind of was a roundabout way of like this sales marketing career that was underpinned by my desire to build things and deliver things to a market. Yeah, it's funny.
6:29I started my agency over 30 years ago. So yeah, pre-internet as well. But I always tell people, the only thing I was sure of is I could hustle work. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs kind of have that bug. And sometimes it could be a weakness, right? Because we don't stay focused because we're able to do that. Talk a little bit about - That's such a point, John. Such a great point. And we can come back to that. I want to talk about the book, Building Your Digital Utopia. You talked about this idea of creating experience that systematically accelerate growth. So kind of unpack that idea for us.
7:01Well, I'm a systems guy. I'm a frameworks guy. Like everything I do, I want to put a system around. I want to put a framework around. I want to put an ABC one, two, three. It's so much so to where my wife sometimes is like, oh my gosh, there's a right way to do everything. Isn't there, Frank? Because that's just how I view everything. There's an ABC 123. So when it came to my agency experience and what we were doing for clients, which was essentially inbound marketing, content marketing, I wanted to create a way for our clients to understand the complexity of content marketing. Now to marketers that might be listening, we might think, oh, it's easy to understand.
7:37But we also have to remember the people that buy what we have to offer, let's say content marketing, it's not so easy for them to understand. And they don't understand the strategic aspects of it. So I wrote a book that intended to teach the strategic aspects to get a business owner, a business executive, to understand what good inbound slash content marketing looked like. And oh, by the way, the underpinning, the big theme of that was relationships, that we can actually build relationships in a digital format. We have to just take that relationship psychology and apply it to the content. And so once you do that and you overlay that idea of relationship psychology, you now have specific types of content you need at various stages.
8:19And it's not just so, it's not enough to say, oh, awareness, decision, consideration. That's not enough to say that. We actually have to understand the psychology of meeting the psychological need at that place. And so that's what we attempted to do was apply that psychology to that process. And it works really well because now we have, we can teach people, business executives, a strategic understanding of content and digital marketing. Yeah. You know, 15, 20 years ago, we were talking about, you know, content is king. You remember everybody was saying that and then it became air, frankly. And I think today it, you know, we've risen it to the strategic level.
9:00You don't talk about content as a blog post or as a content management system. It's, you know, how are we going to actually, how we're going to use it to be the voice of strategy is how we talk about it. Because I think it's become that important, but it's also, you know, it's complex, it's changing, it's getting harder. There's so much garbage out there that I think it's, I understand the confusion, right? And I'm sure you see it too. Yeah, I think when, and this is, go ahead. No, go finish that point. I was going to say, I think when businesses don't, I'm going to bring back something I mentioned at the top of the conversation when, and we'll get into it too, when we talk about the number one thing that I think CEOs are responsible for, especially in agencies, but what a lot of businesses lack, what's called a true North.
9:44And when you don't have a true North, it affects everything. So specifically we're talking about content marketing. Well, guess what? That's why you're going to produce a bunch of stuff for SEO and you're going to produce a bunch of stuff for social and it's all over the place. And then people wonder why it's not getting traction. Well, because to get traction with marketing, this was true yesterday and so true today to get traction, you need longevity. The problem is if you don't have a true North, you will constantly be changing directions and you will never have the longevity required to get momentum going.
10:22And that's actually the key word that is going, that drives everything I do right now with my clients and my methodology. It's this idea of momentum. It's the only magic elixir that ever truly exists in business and in life. And you could actually harness it. It's my pleasure to welcome a new sponsor to the podcast, our friends at Active Campaign. Active Campaign helps small teams power big businesses with a must-have platform for intelligent marketing automation. We've been using Active Campaign for years here at Duct Tape Marketing to power our subscription forms, email newsletters, and sales funnel drip campaigns.
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12:16It's this magical thing that's infectious, that when you start harnessing momentum, everyone gets caught up in it, everyone gets excited, and you have people working together towards a common cause. Without momentum, things start to feel stale and stagnant. And as agencies, we know that is awful in the agency space because our people, which is essentially the product, when they start feeling stale and stagnant and the business isn't going somewhere, they're easily distracted by other opportunities. There are many other organizations willing to woo our talent. So we have to create momentum. So how do we do that?
12:54The way we do that, simply put, is by making sure that we obsessively work on the right things in the right order and disproportionately deploy time, money, and resources against those things. So there's a few things to define that and get there. I've already mentioned True North quite a bit, and I'll go back to that. it's really critical that you as the agency leader or any business owner that you establish a true north for the business. Well, the true north, you know, what is it? The true north basically says, this is who we're for. This is what we do in the world. This is the transformation we bring.
13:28And this is the mission we're on to get there. It needs to be so sharp. It could metaphorically cut. Meaning when you come across opportunities, it's either going to cut yes or cut no, and it's going to be very black and white. The problem with most businesses is they're not willing to make that sharp of a business strategy decision. So they end up taking some things over here, some things over there, some things right there. And then before you know it, you don't have the focus. So the true north needs to be something that is razor sharp. Again, I like to tell my clients, it should metaphorically cut.
14:04Like if you touch, it cuts you, it's that sharp. And then your job as the owner is to make sure that all plans align to True North, all people that you hire align to True North, and all the day-to-day behaviors and decisions align to True North. So that's number one. We must have a True North, right? So we're talking about things like vision, mission, values, how you articulate the brand, and then how you define what I call the boulder in the business. And the boulder in the business is the number one strategic imperative that you have to accomplish in the next one to three years. So that's your true north.
14:37So we start there. If we don't have that, then gaining momentum is going to be really difficult. And then I can go on to a couple of more points if you want. But are we good? Are we good? Okay. So we've got true north. The next thing we need to do is that we need to uncover the number one blocker towards true north. And we need to analyze that number one blocker on a consistent basis. I like to say in 90-day cycles or quarterly cycles. So what is our number one blocker towards True North? Now, I talk about there being seven core capabilities in every business. One is True North. Two is exceptional execution.
15:17We've got world-class offering, systematic sales process, actively generation, empowered work experience, and cash and profit optimization. Those, by the way, align with job titles, but I don't use the job titles. Those are the seven capabilities. So what you have to do as a business owner is you have to regularly understand of those seven capabilities, which one is our number one blocker to growth. And you as a business owner must know that at any given point in time. And once you define your number one blocker to growth, then what you're going to do is the third thing is you're going to chip away at that blocker in 90 day or quarterly cycles.
15:56So the plans you come up with aren't to quote unquote boil the ocean, aren't to get rid of that blocker to growth in one plan. Your objective is what can we accomplish in this quarter to chip away at it and understand that growth, getting to a place of big success is a journey. And it's about success stacking those little wins quarter after quarter. So what happens when you do that? Well, you gain momentum because not only are you chipping away at the blocker, which frees up and makes your company spin faster, but you're creating a culture of winning with your team. And when your team feels like winners, they start to get caught up in the excitement and enthusiasm.
16:39So those are the three things that I would say is know your true north, know your number one blocker to growth, and then in quarterly cycles, relentlessly execute, chipping away at it in small chunks, quarter after quarter. As I listened to you describe that one, how often the number one blocker for people is they don't have a true north, right? You know, it's interesting enough, John, it's actually, if we put those in the right order, true north is number one. And some people might say, well, like, I don't need strategy at this point in time or company small. It's like, well, could you spend, could you spend just a handful of weeks getting together with the few people you have and agree on what the strategy is?
17:21We're not talking about spending months or years on this, but like, could you get together and just create some clarity around where you folks are going? Because if you can't do that, you're going to continue to spin your wheels. So one of the things I'm seeing in the agency world is, and we're picking on the agencies, It sounds like because we both serve a lot of agencies, but this is business in general is just that, you know, they see what everybody else is doing out there. It's like this is how it's always been done. And I see a whole lot of pressure right now on marketing tactics, price pressure on marketing tactics today.
17:52And a lot of agencies going, we can't you know, we're just like throwing bodies at stuff, but we're making less and working more. So I'm curious if you, A, if you see that same mentality out there, but also, you know, what do we need to be doing or how do we need to be looking at things differently if we are going to scale in a world where technology is constantly changing and creating a lot of pressure on price or on profit? Yeah. Again, I'm going to be redundant here, but I go back to True North. I think about there's two agency relationships in particular that come to mind for me. In one relationship, in this one agency I know of, they made the decision to get really sharp on their True North and they stuck to it and they relentlessly executed against it.
18:39The other agency, who by the way, was bigger than this other agency has stagnated because they did everything else, but they didn't have the courage to make the decisions about True North because they had this fear of missing out. So what ends up happening is they're not magnetic to any one audience because they're kind of there for many audiences. Now, why is this the answer to the thing that you just brought up? The reason it's the answer is because as tactics shift, and let's say we have these massive shifts like AI coming in with content, and how does that affect SEO, and how does that affect content marketing?
19:21These massive shifts coming in. When you own an audience and you own a particular problem, then you're the one that has the voice within that community to start having conversation with them about how they're going to leverage this technology or if it's even applicable at all. Right. When you have that kind of intimate knowledge about that audience, it's okay that you may not have the answer, but you have the audience and you have the conversations there and you have the relationships to go back to that audience and say, why don't we do a roundtable? Why don't we do a forum where we talk about the disruption that's happening with this new technology?
20:01I'm not claiming to have the answers, but I do know your industry and I do know your problems. And I do know what we have to get you to where you're wanting to go from a strategic standpoint. When you have that kind of intimacy, the tactical problems come and go. As you know, there will be another massive shift in the future. And there will be another one that will always happen. When you have that intimate knowledge of a given market and you understand them better than anyone else, and you have, you've put in the work to develop the relationships in that market, you can then go to them and not claim to have the answers.
20:38And that's really the big revelation. You don't have to have the answers of knowing what to do with the technology, but you do have to have the relationships with an audience that's greater than your competitors. So that way you can bring that question to that audience and have a round table discussion and start to create insights and ideas about what that industry can do with the new tech. Such a great way to build trust too with that audience doing exactly what you described. Well, Frank, we have run out of time somehow. I wanted to get to stepping away from your agency, which I know we could do a whole show on.
21:13So maybe we'll have you back to cover just that one topic, but I'd invite you to invite people to connect with you or where you'd like to connect or find out more about the work you're doing there at Revenue Ranch. Yeah. I think the biggest thing I can do for listeners, because we talk so much about momentum and figuring out which area is your number one blocker and what you should do about it. Probably the best thing I can do is direct people to an online tool that I developed where people can go through and answer some questions about their business and it will help uncover your exact blocker to growth.
21:44So if you just go to growth momentum, roadmap.com growth, momentum, roadmap.com, you'll have access to a tool where we'll walk you through exactly what your number one blocker to growth is. And it'll give you a roadmap on what to do about that. Yeah. And we'll have those, we'll have that link in the show notes as well. Well, Frankie, again, I appreciate you taking a few moments to stop by the duct tape marketing podcast and hopefully we'll run into you one of these days out there on the road
From the publisher
In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I interviewed Frank Cowell, the Chief Revenue Boss at Revenue Ranch. Frank Cowell is a speaker, best-selling author, and entrepreneur in the San Diego, California area. With over 20 years of sales, marketing, and leadership experience, Frank serves as Chief Revenue Boss at his latest venture, Revenue Ranch. He works regularly with business owners and executives who are looking to grow faster and smarter.
Frank is author of Building Your Digital Utopia, which details a concept he pioneered to help brands create digital experiences that systematically accelerate growth. An energetic and entertaining speaker, Frank presents regularly to regional and national organizations on topics related to revenue operations, business strategy, and digital marketing.
Renowned for his expertise in accelerating agency growth. Frank's insights into mastering growth momentum and unveiling your agency's True North are invaluable for those seeking to elevate their agency success.
Key Takeaways
Emphasizing the importance of a clear True North, Frank guides listeners in defining a razor-sharp strategic direction that informs every decision. He introduces the concept of identifying the number one blocker to growth, encouraging a systematic approach to chip away at obstacles in quarterly cycles. Frank underscores the power of intimate knowledge about your audience, advocating for the ownership of a specific niche to navigate technological shifts successfully. The journey to agency success is framed as a continuous process, with a focus on success stacking and the creation of a culture of momentum. Tactical adaptability is key, with Frank advising agencies to leverage their relationships to initiate collaborative discussions within their niche, navigating evolving landscapes with confidence and purpose.
More About Frank Cowell:
- Visit his Website - revenueranch.com
- Watch his Pitch Video - revenueranch.com/agency-freedom-video-access
- Get his book - amazon.com/Building-Your-Digital-Utopia-Systematically/dp/1544506147/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1SM4CK62PJAW7&keywords=Building+Your+Digital+Utopia&qid
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