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The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast - Episode: Solving the Marketing Leadership Gap for Small Business
Podcast Overview
- Title: The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast
- Host: John Jantsch
- Focus: Provides insights from marketing professionals, offering strategies and tips for small business growth.
Episode Summary In this episode, John Jantsch discusses the prevalent marketing leadership gap faced by many small businesses. He emphasizes that the disconnect in marketing efforts often stems from a lack of cohesive leadership rather than a deficiency in tactics. The discussion includes:
- The significance of marketing leadership
- Effective strategies to bridge the leadership gap
- The future of marketing systems
Key Points Discussed
- The Leadership Gap in Marketing
- Many small businesses experience stagnation due to scattered marketing efforts.
- The absence of a guiding marketing leadership figure exacerbates these issues.
- Importance of Marketing Leadership
- Marketing leadership is vital for aligning marketing strategies with business goals.
- Traditional solutions such as hiring agencies or fractional CMOs may not effectively resolve the leadership gap.
- Steps to Address the Marketing Leadership Gap
- Develop a Clear Marketing Strategy: Establish a roadmap that aligns with business objectives.
- Fix Foundational Issues: Address core deficiencies within existing marketing frameworks.
- Create a Repeatable Marketing System: Implement a system that ensures sustainable marketing efforts rather than sporadic campaigns.
- Marketing Leadership as a Service
- Jantsch proposes a new model of "marketing leadership as a service," which combines strategy development, foundational fixes, and system installation.
- Emphasizes training internal teams to manage and execute marketing systems effectively.
- The Future of Marketing in 2025
- Anticipates significant changes in marketing dynamics and emphasizes the need for adaptable strategies.
- Encourages business leaders to consider their marketing as an asset rather than an expense.
Key Takeaways
- Leadership is Key: The lack of marketing leadership is the primary reason many small businesses fail to connect their marketing efforts to growth.
- Focus on Strategy Before Tactics: Having a solid strategy in place is crucial before diving into execution.
- Align Marketing as a Business Asset: Proper marketing leadership can transform marketing into a valuable component of business strategy, especially for future scalability and potential exits.
Conclusion The episode stresses the need for effective marketing leadership in small businesses to overcome the existing gaps in marketing strategies. As businesses prepare for future challenges, establishing a cohesive marketing system and investing in leadership could provide the necessary foundation for growth and sustainability.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Hello and welcome to another episode of the duct tape marketing podcast. This is John Jantz and no guests today. I am doing a solo show. Let's call this solving the marketing leadership gap for small business. How's that sound like for a lofty title? Now I could also, we're ending, depending upon when you're listening, we're coming to the end of 2024. I can also title this what I think the future of marketing is, whether you're an agency or whether you're a small business owner trying to market your business. Let me ask you this. Have you ever felt your marketing stuck? Have you ever told your agency more marketing stuck?
0:46Like it's disconnected, it's scattered, it's not driving growth. Look, you're not alone. I hear that every single day. So that's what we're going to talk about, why I think that happens, and what your business can do to fix it. We're going to explore an issue. I'm not selling anything today. We're going to explore an issue that I probably will be selling solutions more directly for, but I want to dive into what I think is at the crux of where we're going. There's a lot. I've said this earlier in my, I did do a 2025 trends post and I've said this a lot. I think 2025 is going to make the change of 2024 pale in comparison.
1:25I think we're going to see so much change that happens with businesses and we're already seeing it. I'm hearing from agencies and business owners saying, hey, something's going on out there. I'm not getting the leads, I'm not getting the traffic to my website. So I think we're going to see a big shift in in the winners and the losers, if I can say it that way. So hopefully you've got some big goals for your business. But here's the missing thing. You're lacking internal marketing leadership to guide those goals. Now, let me focus on that word again, leadership, you might have internal marketing, you might have internal marketing hires, you might have hired an agency that is doing amazing job with your marketing or some aspect of your marketing.
2:10But you're lacking leadership, you've got a website, maybe you're running some ads posting on social media. But nothing feels very connected, and you're not really seeing the results, right? So the traditional solutions I already talked about them. Hire an agency, that's probably going to be very focused on execution. Hire a full-time marketing leader, maybe a CMO or a fractional CMO, maybe pretty expensive, right? And then the DIY, which hopefully you've realized that's a tough road, right? You don't have the time, you don't have the expertise. It's probably taking you away from the things that really do matter in your business if you're going to move your business forward.
2:51I'm not saying marketing doesn't matter. There just might be higher payoff things that you're more suited to do. Most businesses fail at marketing because they lack, not because they lack tactics, but they fail because they lack leadership really to tie it all together. That has been really a theme. Now I've, you know, for 30 years, certainly the 20 plus years I've been doing this podcast, I've been talking about strategy before tactics, and that is a big piece of it. But there's also a leadership component. I think you need somebody to take ownership of that strategy, ensure that really every marketing effort aligns with your growth goals.
3:33It's not about doing more. It's about doing the right things in the right order. Number one, developing a marketing strategy, but then having somebody that is there to help you fix the foundational issues, really to tie it all together, to orchestrate it. A lot of times, you know, when we start working with somebody, before we can really do much for them in terms of growth or even in brand is we have to get their messaging right. We have to actually, most cases, redo their brochure website and turn it actually into a sales asset. We have to talk about content that is educational and trust building.
4:11And once we get through that foundation, then we need to actually build a repeatable marketing system, one that ensures you're not just throwing money at the next new thing. or you're building a machine that works long term. So that's the component that I think marketing leadership brings. It's not just somebody that says, oh, this is what we ought to do. This is how we ought to price it. This is how we ought to talk about our products and services. That's great to have that strategy, that component, but you also need somebody who is really then orchestrating on that. So breaking it down, you need the strategy first, right?
4:47Clear path, align goals, customer needs. identify what's missing, what needs fixing. Then you need to have those foundational issues fixed. Then you need to build a system. And then you actually need to start thinking about marketing as an asset in your business. And by that, I mean, you need to start hiring and training a team to take over and keep that system running. And that's, you know, if you think about it, if you went out there and hired, you were at a point where you're like, gosh, we need to take marketing seriously. We need to hire some marketing leadership. We need to hire a marketing manager.
5:18We need to hire a marketing fractional CMO. Well, that person would come in and hopefully you develop a strategy. And nine times out of 10, they'd say, okay, who are we going to get to do the work? I'm not writing the emails. That's not my job. And so whether it's going to be a third party or you're going to actually bring somebody in and hire and train those ORECs or have your marketing leader hire and train those folks. So that's really what I think. I think that the agency model today is this what I'm starting to call marketing leadership as a service. So that includes strategy development, foundation fixes, and then installing that system and then training and handing off into your business somebody who can actually run that system.
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7:29Are you working from a plan, a marketing roadmap that allows you to know precisely what to do next? Look, don't worry if you can't answer yes to any or all of these questions. You're not alone. See, marketers today get so focused on the tactic of the week, staring them right in the face that they forget to look at the big picture, the overarching strategy needed to consistently grow their business. Over the years, I've worked with thousands of businesses, helping them do just that, create the perfect marketing strategy and plan that gives total clarity about what to do next, confidence to charge ahead and charge more, and complete control of the marketing tactics they choose.
8:11I would love to help you and your team do the same. Look, to find out if our strategy first program is right for you, visit dtm.world slash grow and request a free consultation. That's dtm.world slash grow. That's the piece that's really been missing. People have either hired somebody, went off, didn't really know what to tell them to do. They got a little result, seemed like they weren't getting anything or they've hired an agency, same thing. Nobody was directing them. Or maybe they've hired somebody to come in and build a strategy, but then nobody to really execute that, right? So marketing leadership, I believe, is the missing link for most small businesses.
8:55And I believe that agencies today, if you are an agency, a consultant, a marketing strategist out there listening, this idea of selling marketing leadership as a service, I hope actually sets some bells off. And in some cases, alarm bells, because this is what the market needs. And I think that you're going to find not only are people going to want it, they're going to want to pay a premium or expect to pay a premium for that person who can bring leadership. AI cannot provide strategy. AI I cannot provide leadership. Agencies need to start thinking like architects as opposed to contractors. Don't do the work.
9:35AI is actually going to do a lot of the specialized work. But that leadership component that is executing on a strategy, that is building a marketing system, that's what's missing. And I've been saying marketing is a system, as I said, for 25 years. However, we're really getting to the point where that's a very tangible idea. For a lot of folks, even though they agreed with me, marketing is a system, it felt like a vague idea because really what you were doing was plugging people in to do things. And it felt very much like traditional marketing. But I believe that we are on the crux of or the, what's a better way to say that?
10:12Precipice. Ooh, that's a good word. Precipice of this idea that we can, in fact, finally install a marketing system in a business because of AI and because we are taking this idea as marketing leadership as a service as the missing ingredient. So next time you feel like your marketing isn't working, ask yourself, do I have any leadership? Do I have a system in place to make it work? If not, that's the first thing you need to fix. Look, if this conversation resonated with you, stay tuned. We are going to, in 2025, have a very set step one, step two, step three, step four, that really focuses on positioning what we do as bringing this to small, mid-sized businesses.
11:00So stay tuned. If you like this idea, if you're an agency consultant, you're a business owner, and you like this idea, just reach out to john at duct tape marketing.com and tell me you like the idea you want to hear more, I will tell you how we can actually build marketing as an asset in your business, not as a cost, not as an expense in your business, it actually can be something that will make your business more valuable, not just because you'll grow revenue and get more customers. because you'll be able to show somebody, let's say you wanna exit your business, you'll be able to show somebody, here's how our marketing system works.
11:34And that can be one of the most valuable things you can do in your business. So take care. If you're listening to this post 2025, have a happy new year, happy end of the year. And let's make 2025 rock. Hopefully we'll see you one of these days out there on the road.
From the publisher
In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I tackle a critical topic that small businesses face today: the marketing leadership gap. Many small businesses struggle with disconnected marketing efforts, scattered strategies, and stagnant growth, not due to a lack of tactics but because they lack marketing leadership to tie it all together.
As we look ahead to the future of marketing in 2025, I dive into why traditional solutions鈥攍ike hiring agencies or fractional CMOs鈥攐ften fall short and what businesses must do to implement a long-term marketing strategy that drives sustainable business growth. This episode uncovers how a marketing system combined with leadership can transform small businesses into scalable, successful enterprises.
Today we discussed:
- [0:00] Opening
- [01:50] The Leadership Gap in Marketing
- [02:57] Why Marketing Leadership Matters
- [03:39] Steps to Fix Marketing Leadership Gap
- [08:48] Marketing Leadership as a Service
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