In short
Chris Todd, a veteran private investigator, argues that O.J. Simpson did not kill Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman alone. He claims the murders involved an accomplice (possibly two), plus alleged evidence tampering and a cover-up by law enforcement/media.
Guest backgrounds
Chris Todd is a long-time private investigator and “truth seeker.” He says he wrote books including If I Did It (and references Ron’s Revenge). He claims he spent time around Nicole’s family during the trial because his first business partner dated Nicole’s sister.
Key claims
Todd says O.J. was extorted by “Charlie” (OJ’s name for one man) and another associate tied to drugs, leading O.J. to drive to Nicole’s house within minutes of missing a limo to Chicago. He alleges multiple knives, multiple sets of shoe prints, and blood that doesn’t match O.J. He claims Mark Fuhrman planted evidence (including the glove) and that the media suppressed later interview material.
Notable examples
“Parallel line prints” (PLP) not matching O.J.; alleged two morphologically different stab wounds; O.J.’s Ross Becker confession/interviews; Joey Ippolito named as a second figure; civil trial finding Simpson liable (about $33M) despite no criminal conviction.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChris Todd's Introduction and Background
3:05 to 4:30
Ed introduces guest Chris Todd, highlighting his background and interest in the O.J. case.
“So I've already sort of introduced the episode today.”
Personal Connection to the O.J. Trial
4:30 to 7:30
Ed shares his personal connection to the O.J. Simpson trial and its impact on him.
“And the reason I leave that little 10 % is because, you know, I've dealt with a lot of accomplices and criminals, let's say, and you have to be careful what you believe from what they say.”
Theories on the O.J. Case
7:30 to 11:10
Chris shares his theories about the O.J. Simpson case, emphasizing that O.J. had accomplices.
“And I learned, and look, I'm not going to talk badly about the LAPD because they've actually been pretty cool listening over the years.”
Detailed Account of the Night of the Murders
11:10 to 14:04
Chris discusses the events leading to the murders of Nicole and Ron, including O.J.'s behavior.
“And these friends should have stepped in.”
OJ's Emotional Turmoil and Relationship Dynamics
14:04 to 16:42
Explore OJ's emotional state and the volatile nature of his relationship with Nicole.
“He's on, I think he's doing football on NBC at the time.”
Analyzing the Crime Scene: Evidence and Theories
16:42 to 20:05
Delve into theories surrounding OJ's actions and the evidence from the crime scene.
“So either one of these guys, which the first time I heard you with your theory, you thought there was one guy.”
The Murder Incident: Victims and Assailants
22:20 to 28:00
Examine the details of the murder incident involving Ron Goldman and Nicole.
“He says in the preliminary hearing, there's two morphologically different types of stab wounds on the victims.”
Evidence of a Third Party at the Crime Scene
28:00 to 29:15
Explore the presence of evidence suggesting multiple attackers in the O.J. Simpson case.
“Why is there blood from somebody else at the crime scene?”
Footprints and Missing Evidence
29:15 to 31:30
Discuss the footprints found at the scene and the missing evidence from the investigation.
“I've always, you know, just for me personally, wondered this really young stud athletic Goldman guy, how one dude would be able to kill both of these very athletic people, not with a gun, but with a knife.”
Theories on Missing Evidence
31:30 to 34:20
Analyze theories surrounding the missing evidence and its implications for the case.
“The first theory is that it comes back in his duffel bag and Kardashian walks away from it when they're at the house when OJ comes back.”
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Potential Suspects and Criminal Backgrounds
34:20 to 35:39
Identify possible accomplices and their criminal backgrounds related to the case.
“By the way, why don't you, at this point, you said he's passed away.”
OJ's Actions After the Murders
36:41 to 40:09
Reconstruct O.J. Simpson's movements following the murders based on witness accounts.
“So Joey Eppolito and this other guy and OJ, or just the two of them, get back in OJ's Bronco and they've got to get back to OJ's house.”
Blood Evidence and Theories of Injury
40:09 to 42:00
Discuss the blood evidence found in the Bronco and O.J.'s injury theories.
“The steering wheel, steering column is OJ tells you this in his Ross Becker interview.”
Theories of Involvement
42:00 to 43:10
Exploring theories surrounding O.J. Simpson's involvement in the murders.
“The dog's name was Kato, named after Kato Kalen.”
Cato's Witness Account
43:10 to 44:48
Discussing Cato's observations and the implications of his testimony.
“We'll go to the house just really quick again and put a bow on this.”
Mind-Blowing Evidence
44:48 to 45:05
The revelation that new evidence has not been widely shared.
“and that many of these things, the first time most human beings are hearing this is right now, that's mind-blowing to me, number one.”
The Glove Theory
45:05 to 46:04
Debating the theory about how the glove ended up at O.J.'s house.
“But this idea of the glove not fitting, you know, if it doesn't fit, you must acquit, that part to me never bugged me.”
Mark Furman's Actions
46:04 to 48:28
Investigating Mark Furman's possible actions regarding the glove evidence.
“The first theory is the Stevens singular theory, which was legacy of deception.”
Media and Public Perception
48:28 to 50:36
Analyzing why certain stories about the case are not being reported.
“bizarre parts of the entire trial to me.”
The Civil Trial Aftermath
50:36 to 52:09
Details about the civil trial and O.J.'s subsequent actions.
“And I talk about Copernicus and the stories of, you know, when people speak a truth, I'm not going to say Jesus.”
Confession in O.J.'s Book
52:09 to 55:16
Discussing the implications of O.J.'s book and its confessional nature.
“So talk about the civil and also OJ would even afterwards do all this, which is bizarre.”
Unanswered Questions in the O.J. Simpson Case
56:00 to 57:39
Explore the lingering questions surrounding the investigation of O.J. Simpson.
“But my question and challenge is to all of you is, why didn't you look at it?”
The Psychological Profile of O.J. Simpson
57:40 to 1:00:40
Gain insights into O.J. Simpson's mindset and lifestyle post-trial.
“Simpson now the rest of my life after I know I've likely killed these two human beings.”
Chris Todd's Investigative Work and Findings
1:00:41 to 1:04:24
Learn about Chris Todd's work on various high-profile cases and his findings.
“He tells Jeff Felix in jail, two drug dealers came to my house the night of the murders, two.”
Transcript
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1:34this is the Ed Myland Show alright welcome back to the show everybody so you know for the last 10 years every single week we've been putting out episodes that either change or improve your life and that's why we've become one of the top shows in the world and I'm very grateful for that and I hope we continue to do that for the next 10 years But this year, every once in a while, I want to do something that's a little bit off the beaten path for our show, which is to have a topic on the show that just fascinates me personally. And in my lifetime, one of the two or three most compelling stories, the things that just stand out as moments in time that I'll never forget, is the O.J.
2:11Simpson trial. And some information came across my desk about six months ago from somebody that has a theory as to exactly what happened in the murders of Nicole Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, that I thought was interesting enough that I wanted to share with you. And so today we're going to have a conversation with him. We haven't recorded it yet. We're about to go into it. And I just want to be clear. I'm not a detective. I'm not in law enforcement. I'm not an attorney and I don't claim to know what happened exactly and the loss of life for these two precious souls. But he believes he does.
2:44And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask the questions that I think you would want me to ask. And I think it's going to be one of the most interesting, fascinating episodes of all time on the show. And then you can decide what you think happened. And so can I at the end of the conversation. And so I'll work on your behalf to get as much information as I can and keep it as entertaining as possible. I hope you enjoy this. Here we go. All right, guys. So I've already sort of introduced the episode today. So let me just introduce the person. I'm going to talk to Chris Todd. Chris is a veteran PI, been a private investigator a long time, but he's just one of the great truth seekers in the world today, whether that be what happened with Kurt Cobain or Biggie Smalls or what we're going to talk about today mainly, which is O.J.
3:24Simpson and the O.J. Simpson trial. And I got to tell you, Chris, first, welcome to the show, brother. Good to have you here. Thank you, man. I'm honored to be here with you, Ed. Thank you. I should tell you first in the audience why I have such an interest in this. Obviously, it's one of the most compelling stories of my lifetime. But I have to tell you, I haven't told you this until I wanted to record. This trial and what happened to particularly Nicole matters to me because I was fresh out of college. And my business partner in my first business was dating Nicole's sister at the time the murder happened.
3:58Really? And so I spent time around the family during the trial. Wow. And so I gave a little insight into what the family was thinking initially as well. And so this is not just something that I watched on TV. It's something that I was at least in a peripheral way around the trial and a little bit around the family. And so I'm really interested in to hear what you've discovered or what your theories are. Before you tell us what they are, on a scale of one to a hundred, how sure are you that what you're about to share with us is accurate? Is it a 90? Is it a 52? How sure are you? I would say it's a 90.
4:34And the reason I leave that little 10 % is because, you know, I've dealt with a lot of accomplices and criminals, let's say, and you have to be careful what you believe from what they say. So I always leave, I'll leave you like 10 % that, and we're going to get into something interesting today that I'm going to talk about, that there's actually another person involved with them that took me a long time to really kind of vet. So it's a fascinating story. My journey is beyond comprehension and all glory to God in a way of how I was brought into this. and we can get into that stuff, you know, as we go.
5:18I might know who your friend is that probably, I won't say his name, but I think I might know who that is. Off camera, I'll share that with you, but not relative to the story, but I want to protect those folks as well. But let's start out by asking you, most of us that watch that trial, I'd say the majority of people that watch the trial, eventually reach the conclusion that they believe that OJ killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson. most of them how that i talked to though wonder whether he could have done this alone and of course there's a percentage of people that still believe that maybe he didn't do it or they don't know first of all lay out for us what you believe you have a book you wrote called ron's revenge what you believe took place just a general overview of what happened to these two precious souls who did it they do it with someone else they do it alone etc absolutely and and um my My original book was called If We Did It.
6:14This was the beginning of this saga after I kind of met one of the key players, let's say. I came forward against that person. Today, I won't say their full name. I can say the actual name that OJ used, right? OJ kept calling him Charlie. So that's in OJ's book, Chapter 6 of If I Did It. And OJ supposedly had confessed cryptically to Judith Regan, to Fox. That interview was shelved for 12 years. It was barred from the public. Okay. The overview is because there's so much. I mean, this is seven years of I saw things that I cannot even explain. So basically, OJ didn't do it alone. Okay. And I know for a fact there's one person with him.
7:09There's possibly two people with him. Okay. That's where I leave that 10%. Okay. I know 150 % that OJ did not do this alone. And a lot of people, like you said, a lot of people knew that too. And there was a lot of evidence. There was other shoe prints in blood there. There were other fingerprints. There was blood DNA in the Bronco and at the murder scene that did not match OJ, Ron, or Nicole. And I learned, and look, I'm not going to talk badly about the LAPD because they've actually been pretty cool listening over the years. They could have ignored me a lot, right? But they've listened. And whether they do something, that's up to them.
7:52I don't control that. But OJ did it. He had help. and it solves all the mysteries of like where the clothes went and the shoes and the knife. Why'd they never find that stuff? How did he get back to his house so fast? How did he get rid of everything? And nobody saw the Bronco and where was the Bronco at the house? Like he got dropped off. He jumped a fence. There was all this stuff. And like most of the public, I was a fan. I was in college. I was 20 years old when it happened. And so I did live it too. And when I first met these guys, there was a couple of people involved with these projects, so to speak.
8:33I couldn't believe it. And it took me about a year to truly believe it after vetting it, using other sources, using my investigative techniques. And I mean, I didn't sleep for a few nights after I was made aware of what was going on. I imagine. So let me go through what I understand, and you'll just correct me because I'll be wrong about this is 30 years ago or whatever it was. But my understanding is that there was some sort of a recital or something at school that day. Nicole ends up having dinner with family at, I think it's Mezzaluna. I think that's the name of the place. Ron was a server there.
9:14And I think maybe OJ came there and there was a disagreement or he left that part you can clear up. But how do you get from Mezzaluna to OJ pulling up? Let me just help speed this up too. OJ lives down the street. There's a front entrance to Nicole's house. There's a back entrance to Nicole's house. My understanding is you believe that he drove down what would be considered like the back alley that night. fix what I just said that's wrong. My understanding also is that Nicole supposedly left some glasses at the restaurant, called the restaurant. Ron agrees to deliver them to the house that night.
9:50And what, one, how did he get there? And B, why did he do this? Like, what compels this guy? He was obviously violent with her in the past. But this night, did he intend to kill her? Did he intend to scare her? what makes him get in his car knowing he's flying to Chicago, I think, later that night, and drive over there and do this? What spurred this change in his behavior or acceleration of his behavior? Yeah, and you remind me at the end, I'm going to start with the first part of what you said, and then I should be able to remember that second part. There is a recital. Nicole does go to dinner at Metzaluna with her family and the kids.
10:31OJ doesn't go. Whether OJ was invited it or not there's a lot of different theories was he at the recital and that's where there was a he was filmed there a guy from portland oregon filmed oj kissing one of his children and that was a big piece of the story in case so he was there nicole and oj were not speaking to each other at this time on june 12 1994 they hated each other like cats and dogs man i can't explain it There's a couple of things about this IRS letter. They, I mean, they were, it was bad. It was really bad. And there were a lot of warning signs over the years. Okay. And these friends should have stepped in.
11:13This, this murder is not premeditated. It's not. Okay. OJ's waiting for a limousine to come take him to the airport to go to Chicago. Within minutes, minutes. I'm not talking hours. I'm talking within minutes. OK, basically what happens is I'm going to say two men show up at Rockingham and tell OJ they owe some money to them. OJ and them owe these people money. There's two. I'm going to say this because I can say this legally. Charlie, quote unquote, and another gentleman that I may say the name as we go, because he died. He's dead. Okay. If I remove, I know Charlie's there. If I remove the second guy, right?
12:07And I just focus on one guy doing an extortion, right? You owe us money. They owe us money for drugs. You guys have been, you know, you have to understand the mafia mentality. It's a setup. It's an extortion to get money out of him because OG has nowhere to go. Who's he going to go to? the cops. He can't go anywhere. So OJ had a drug problem. A lot of people knew that. And he was entangled in the wrong crowd, period. So was Nicole. So was Faye Resnick. To some degree, Keith Z may have been. These were the people from Mezzaluna. These were the good friends of Nicole. There was a lot of stuff going on in LA in 94, okay?
12:48Basically, OJ freaks out and says, no, I'm not giving you a dime. And the tables have turned. And OJ says, we're going to Nicole's. And he has them go in a Bronco with him to Nicole's house. At about 10, 20 p.m., he leaves Rockingham. Because the limo lands at like 10, 25. He misses him. The limo never sees a Bronco. Okay? What compels this guy, knowing he's getting on an airplane, to drive over there. So you're saying what compelled him is one or two of these shadowy figures, kind of mob dudes. And he's investigated this, everybody. This isn't something that he's just looked, you know, it's actually something that OJ said as well.
13:32So these guys, there's a confrontation. Backdrop on that just really quickly is you said OJ had a drug problem. Did OJ also help, do you believe in his past, maybe distribute or sell any of these drugs to people? And that's why he was entangled with these two guys. Absolutely. He was facilitating deals with these two men. Absolutely. 100%. And I can prove that. And also AC was too. And that can be proven also. It's some of it's in the public domain. It's talking drugs when he's got a Hertz rental car deal. He's making some movies. He's on, I think he's doing football on NBC at the time. Was he hurting for money?
14:10How's he hurting for money? Plus he's got an NFL pension. Why is he dealing drugs? This is, this is the segue into the seven deadly sins. This is the segue into temptation. I believe through my cases, a lot of them, and I talk about this, my spirituality and God and Jesus with these cases and how they helped me in a way, is OJ was possessed by anger, jealousy, rage. He's angry. He's embarrassed. He's mad. And when we hit that point of no return, there is no turning back. He couldn't turn back. He told his bail bondsman in Vegas years later, I should have just got on my plane. He knew in the retrospect, what was I doing?
14:58Why? He could have told these guys, hey, chill out. I'll take care of it. Why does he need to race to Nicole's before he's going to get in limo to go on an airplane because of his anger okay so if i could you know i don't want to do that a lot but there's just in case people aren't familiar there was a this was a very volatile relationship there was violence in the relationship they'd broken up and got back together several times there are you know pretty valid stories that maybe that nicole had dated we'll call it dated a few of oj's friends he had had some frustration about that but i don't understand two guys show up, kind of a shakedown, you owe us money.
15:34Why Nicole's house? Why is that where he's going? So they named Nicole. When they're talking to him, they're saying her name. And they're also saying Keith Z's name. Now, Keith Z was the one that triggered a lot of this anger, the 911 call in October of 93, the stalking incidents. That's Keith. So when they say Nicole's name, Faye Resnick, Keith, this is setting him off. They're pushing his buttons. Okay. And it's dark, man. He obviously, a guy that was that good looking, that charismatic, that famous, you're absolutely right. We can't see how he would do it. But God can. And the devil can. That's what happens all the time, Almost every day, people do things they should not do.
16:27So, you know, it's a sad story. It became a total mess after that. There's a lot of different theories and evidence that pointed to this. And, you know, I do want to touch about the cover-up and the censorship of this story. But we can keep going. So either one of these guys, which the first time I heard you with your theory, you thought there was one guy. Let's just leave room that there could be a second guy with him. In your theory, everybody, I have no idea what happened, obviously. I've not done any investigating. So they end up in his car. You say it's not premeditated. But then at the same time, I've been told he's wearing gloves and a mask.
17:06So if it's not premeditated, why does he wear gloves and a mask? Not a mask. That's something Mark Furman said. There was no mask. It was just a cap. It was a beanie cap like he wore when he golfed, he said. The gloves were driving gloves. Okay. They're isotoners. He wasn't in like this costume. Like people try to say that. Look, let me, I'm going to give you the quick soundbite. OJ wants to scare her. Okay. He had stalked her before in all black clothing, probably had the cap on. Maybe he had the gloves. Maybe he had thought about this before doing this before. Keith Z talks about this when he watches them through the window.
17:44He felt he could be killed. Okay. He could have come in. He was like trying to get in the house. It was all locked. Okay. So he had done this before. Colby's in the trial had talked about seeing a man, black man outside at Gretna Green. So a lot of people know that. So he's wants to scare her. And in his book, in chapter six, he tells you, I'm going to go read her the riot act. He wants to scare her. Now, whether he tries to say, I had a knife. I took it up from under the seat. Look at this blade. And he tells Charlie, look at this blade. And Charlie says in the chapter of the book, what are you doing, dude?
18:25Put that away. You're going to go talk to her. Go talk to her, right? So there's confusion about how many knives there really are. Do these other guys have knives and guns? Most likely. I mean, dealers carry weapons, period, especially in the white, the snow game. Okay. They are ready to die at any moment. Okay. And I'll tell you that in that game. So they're there to scare them when they show up and go through the back gate. The problem is there's Ron Goldman at the front. Here's a white guy, good looking, dressed to the nines, dropping off Judita's glasses, Nicole's mother. She dropped him on the sidewalk.
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21:28There's no evidence that they were lovers. Actually, I do have a piece of tabloid evidence in the discovery file that I'm willing to show to people for free where it talks about Ron Goldman was in love with Nicole. I have it in the witness statements from one of Ron's friends. Okay. Beautiful blonde lady that comes in the restaurant. He's got a crush on her, right? Exactly. It also accurate before you tell us what you think happened, correct me if I'm wrong, because I certainly could be that the wounds on both of them. And please tell me if I'm wrong this because this is significant to your point that there there's evidence that it is two different knives that were used in the assault if that's true why in the world did that not come out at trial or did it it did and what happened was in the very beginning they put on dr erwin golden who was the coroner the original coroner he was the deputy coroner he had a boss dr lachmanin But he did the autopsy, Dr.
22:28Erwin Golden. He says in the preliminary hearing, there's two morphologically different types of stab wounds on the victims. Shapiro gets with them. He starts grilling them. Could two knives have been used? Yes. And that's all recorded. Now, what happens the next day? Marsha Clark kicks him off the case, literally, and that's a problem. them they actually went to other corners across the country for somebody else why because it's a cover-up they don't want to hear that there's two knives and it's so this is this thing was rooted right in the beginning with cover-up right away and there's different reasoning for that some some of it they just wanted oj some guys were afraid of the mob guys look one of the guys is an animal, not Charlie, the other one.
23:23If he was still alive today, I would not be talking to you. Fair enough. So philosophically, what you believe is there was, we're going to go into this moment with Ron Goldman in a minute, but you do believe that OJ did this with an accomplice. Having said that, you also believe there was on the prosecution side and the law enforcement side, you also believe there was tampering of evidence and a coverup. He's nodding his head, but just for audio, you're saying yes to that. Yes, there was planting of evidence. There's proof of that EDTA in different segments of the blood on different pieces of evidence.
23:57And the glove may have been planted by Mark Furman behind the house. Okay. So now we'll go, now we're going to go back to this moment. So OJ's coming up the walkway from the alley behind Ron's at the front door, talking to Nicole, delivering the glass mom's glasses. Do you, you probably don't know this, but you believe OJ walked up there alone initially, or is these other one or two men with him as he walks up? OJ tries to say in his book, in his confession in chapter six, that Charlie followed this guy in. What he's trying to say is that like, he goes in first to stalk and look through the windows.
24:33And I, I see candles and I hear music. I believe the Charlie and the other gentlemen are with OJ at this time. I don't believe they're like coming from the front and waiting. I think they all come through together through the back. And just to be clear with everybody, it's not in the house. It's in like a foyer, like a walkway, walkway, like a courtyard area near the house. Correct. So that's what you meant by in. They're not inside the house. They're outside. Okay. And then in your theory, what takes place now in this horrific incident? When, when they come down the stairs, they have to go up and down these stairs, the long walkway.
25:11As they come down, they see Ron Goldman at the front talking to Nicole. They see that. Now it's very dark. There's very little lighting there. It's a very small space. I talked about this. Four angry people in a very dark space, in a small space. Ron's there. They're unsuspecting. Nicole's got the menu. She's going to order food. She's barefoot. So obviously she just came out of the house. He buzzed to come out. He's got the glasses in a white envelope. This was a big piece of the evidence. Okay. He's doing that. They're talking. Here come the bulls in the China shop. What do you got? What's up?
25:51They're startled at first. Like, whoa, what's, OG, what are you doing here? Nicole hates him. So imagine she sees him. I don't know if she sees him holding a knife, maybe. He's dressed with the gloves and the hat because they find it there. And there's two other guys or one guy with him. What's going on? You're not supposed to be here at all. And then there's Ron there. And it's just awkward. And a fight begins, an argument. And a gentleman hears this, Robert Heidstra. He hears it, parts of it, cross the street in an alley and the prosecution tried to not use them like you'll see all this cover-up from the prosecution oh yeah oh yeah it's all there and basically a fight breaks out i do believe nicole swung on oj and from that moment there's no turning back the other knife being used i do believe there are two knives i i do through the autopsy through the evidence i i do believe there's two people doing it and you believe maybe just for just so everyone should just know this the level of blood that was there and maybe talk for a second just so everyone knows how uh my understanding is this ron goldman young man fought pretty valiantly if there's two or three dudes there absolutely he did i'm under my understanding also is nicole was nearly decapitated the wounds were so severe on her maybe maybe that's not true you clarify that yeah well they exaggerate the decapitation thing a little bit her spine was nicked okay it didn't go through the spine okay a lot of people try to say this it's let's just say it's a nasty slice of the throat okay it's not a decapitation the um ron is attacked and and yes he stabbed over 20 times Okay, 25, somewhere in there.
27:46He is fighting, he's bruising on both his knuckles, all both hands. There's bruising, abrasions. He's obviously punching. Now, when you look at O.J. Simpson, did O.J. have any marks on his face? No. So is he punching O.J. or is he punching somebody else? Why is there blood from somebody else at the crime scene? Again, more signs that there's someone else involved. Okay? And, yes, the blood is everywhere. where, you know, Nicole's feet are, her bare feet have no blood on them. There's a little spatter, I think, on maybe a part of her foot, but she's not standing in her blood, okay? So she's down.
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28:26She's always down on the ground, okay? Ron is not really standing in hers either, so I do believe Ron was killed first. She's either knocked out, dazed, one guy's holding her down, right he could be hitting her but the the final cut is at the end when she's propped up on the stairs because we have evidence of that there's a wall of blood coming down a certain step that's where she has to be she's up on the stairs and then her legs are underneath the gate the gate's only like six inches high you could not get her legs under there if she's standing up she has to be laying down so he yanks her hair back on the stairwell the uh how definitive is it that there's a third party's blood there uh absolutely there's there's other blood at the crime scene and in the bronco 100 um just in the interest of time i'd rather just sit in the space for a minute and it's sort of a sacred place where these two beautiful people lost their lives but we are doing a show here, so we're going to continue to progress through the scene.
29:38I've always, you know, just for me personally, wondered this really young stud athletic Goldman guy, how one dude would be able to kill both of these very athletic people, not with a gun, but with a knife. You would just think someone could have fleed or something, you know. So it is a compelling idea that there were multiple people there. Now, we know from trial that on the way out there's these footprints as i understand it from these unique shoes that oj simpson wears you can discuss that but also are there other footprints leaving the scene that are not ojs yes there are there's a 10 10 and a half size parallel line print that dr henry lee and barry sheck talk about they do a whole testimony on it circle it they call it the plp which means parallel line print.
30:29It's not OJ's. OJ is a Z shape and he's a 12. They're different shoes. They're not close in size. They're not close in print period. There's about four of the accomplices shoes, whether those are Charlie's or the other gentlemen, I pretty much know who it is, but let's just leave it open. Those are walking to the back also. So you have OJ's shoes, the Bruno Mali size 12 Z shape clear prints I mean multiple clear prints they never found his shoes that's the problem they never found these clothes the shoes they found the hat and the two gloves one glove at Rockham one glove at Bundy you see what I mean they didn't find the evidence so they didn't find the knife or knives right so there is yes there are shoe prints walking out of to the alley to two sets.
31:27Let's stay on the can't find the evidence thing. I've heard two theories on that. The first theory is that it comes back in his duffel bag and Kardashian walks away from it when they're at the house when OJ comes back. The other theory I've heard is that somebody saw him putting it in a trash can at LAX when he got out of the limo that night. Which of those two or neither do you believe to be why they never found everything? My theory with all of this is the The Kardashian bag was a garment bag. There's nothing in there. Okay. Even I think Kim Kardashian said she went through it. I don't know if that's true, but I think I heard that.
32:04That's his clothes. Robert Kardashian should never have been allowed to take that. Here's another bumbling by the LAPD. Okay. This man just came back. He's a murder suspect. Someone's grabbing his luggage. Like it's insane. It's borderline insane. um so now skip junas says i saw oj sticking something in the garbage can what i believe that is is the towel that oj used to wipe himself off at the house and possibly his boxer shorts okay that's what he's stuffing in the thing but look they said they searched all the trash cans at lax you can look up they said nothing so i don't know what he's doing i do believe skip Junis.
32:50I don't think he's making it up. And OJ didn't want them, Alan Park and Cato to touch this bag. That stuff could be in there. Absolutely. Because look, think of it this way. What's he going to do with the towel after he goes in and he's bloody in his house? He can't leave that towel there. He leaves the socks there, whether those are planted from the hamper. We don't know. They don't see blood on those socks at first. They don't think there's any blood. It comes weeks later they go oh we found we found nicole's blood and then there's a whole drama about that about the lapd leaked a story with a woman named tracy savage because she was sleeping with him like again it's just all this and the stuff didn't even get tested yet crazy it's crazy in your theory i suppose potentially this these other other man or other two men they could have left with the evidence.
33:44They're afraid of the clothes. OJ does not take these clothes back to his property. As for the glove, there's a couple theories. Did Mark Furman plant the glove? Did he take it from the crime scene? Did he put it in the Bronco first? And then when Cato says, I heard, then he goes, oh, I'll be right back. And then he takes the glove out of the Bronco and he puts it behind the house. We don't know. Are there other people jumping the fence when OJ's coming back? They're all scrambling back to the property because their car's there? I don't know. These are, there's a couple of things I don't have the answers to.
34:18I like every answer. I think it makes the story somewhat more credible. Let me parse a couple of things here. So now OJ gets back. By the way, why don't you, at this point, you said he's passed away. Do you want to give us the name of who you think the second guy is? I can say his name because it's out there. Joey Ippolito. Joey Ippolito. And he's a rough dude, is what you're saying. Off you, hardcore, drug smuggler, killer, absolutely.
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37:01And then take us through that, how quick's the drive, And then what do you believe takes place next? OJ does drive the vehicle. The one guy or two guys or passengers will say that. He almost hits Jill Shively, crashes through San Vicente, lights off. This is a very famous story. She sees him, gets the license plate. This is about 10.50 p.m. It's the proper time. It all lines up. They race back, lights off, which is insane. I just did this drive yesterday. he drives about two three minutes to rocking him and he's up there and he parks on a side street he cannot pull up to the house he cannot oj's dropped off whichever way he comes in does he come through the front gate does he jump the fence does he go through the two tennis courts in his book he says he comes through the tennis courts around the back of the house that's what he says we don't know okay the blood droplets kind of lead from the gate to the house he could come through the front gate, dropped him off there.
38:02The Bronco is not parked at all. Okay. It is being held on another street with the evidence in it. OJ comes back quickly, comes in the house. Alan Parks says, I saw a six foot black man dressed in all black clothing. I think it's his skin. I don't think he's dressed. He's stripped down. He's not seeing him in any clothes. Maybe black boxers and black... Limo driver, everybody. The limo driver, Alan Park. Very key witness, as was Kato Kalin, because they're together when OJ reenters the house. Literally, he sees Kato at the same time he sees OJ in the driveway. He won't say OJ, though. He keeps saying a six-foot black man.
38:49So that's something he has to address for the rest of his life. Okay. And OJ rushes in, then he's still buzzing at the gate and he finally answers and said, Oh, I overslept. I'll be right down. Showering. I don't even know if he showers. He says he took a shower. To me, I think he just cleans up. I don't think he showers. They do find blood in the sink drain, but not in the pipe, supposedly, whatever. In the bathroom sink drain they find a blood i think he doesn't have time to shower so he's racing to dry himself off put on a band-aid to his cut left middle finger right and now he's coming down like nothing happened actor mode he's a little out of breath they talk about that a little sweaty like look like he's a little frazzled and then he starts loading the limousine and the limit pulls away and that's when the bronco comes back in this part when they're gone so these guys were in the bronco just because you said blood i just want to ask you two blood questions because it's evidence whose blood was found in his sink and whose blood was eventually found in the bronco oj's blood is found in the sink okay what about the bronco the bronco all of their blood.
40:08Now watch Ron, Nicole, OJ, and the other accomplice. There's four different blood samples. The steering wheel, steering column is OJ tells you this in his Ross Becker interview. He says there was blood on the steering wheel that didn't come back to me, Ron or Nicole. I offer whose blood was that? Because he's trying to tell you. He knows through all the evidence. And this was after he was acquitted so he could speak. You know what I mean? He could tell you now. That was the first interview. It's a fascinating interview. People should watch the Ross Becker interview. And there's a BET one he does, one in England.
40:52He does a few over the years and he tells you. And then he tells you, and if I did it, he had help. You just didn't want to believe him. And the media was somewhat forced to block the story. Why is the media forced to block the story? In 2006, because the Goldman's, when OJ does the book in the interview, the Goldman's get so mad. They write Rupert Murdoch in Fox, and Rupert fires Judith Regan and shelves the interview. The book is kind of shelved, but it kind of comes out. But that interview is never seen for 12 years. Remember that. Okay, so I guess we should go to, now he's in Chicago, they call him back.
41:34It is important, because not everybody knows these details. You referenced it earlier. He has a pretty significant wound on him. And what's the story for where this wound came from? Because he had to come up with this explanation for that. And he's, I mean, he's still bleeding. If you look at the photo, when he comes back 12 hours later, it's over 12 hours after the murders, he is still bleeding. It's crazy. It's on his left middle finger. Now there's two theories. Mark Furman thought the dog bit him. That's viable, right? The dog's barking. The dog witnesses the murders. The dog's name was Kato, named after Kato Kalen.
42:12The doctor says these are glass shards. OK, Hazanga, who is OJ's doctor. There's a couple little cuts there. And OJ says he broke the glass in the sink in Chicago. So that's where he says it comes from. What I believe happened is he is hit with a knife on his finger, whether it's himself or it's the other assailant when they're swinging his hand is either on ron's neck or grabbing his hair and he gets popped that's what i believe that is okay it just is a is a in the interest of protecting everybody involved here you said earlier that you're you're 90 sure these two guys are involved but you're 100 sure at least one of them is involved with them and I know this is obvious, but I just want to take this for the record because this is your story, it's not mine.
43:05You're 100 % sure about OJ's involvement. 100%. So he gets back. We'll go to the house just really quick again and put a bow on this. OJ gets back to the house. The theory is Cato says he hears a thump on the guest house that he's in, right? That's weird to me, but I've always thought that was odd. The signal, because the way Cato says it, in the very beginning, He makes a noise like, oh, somebody hit the wall. And it was like, then when he's in the trial, he goes, he makes it very deliberate as if someone's signaling that him. Now, whether he's thinking straight, I don't know. He messes up a couple times in the trial, like, well, the lights were off.
43:48Oh, no, they were on. He's like, he's trying to help OJ. Like, he doesn't know what to say. So he's getting, he's trying to give different answers. I believe, I think OJ came behind the house and signaled for Cato to come out. I could be wrong. He's not crashing into any air conditioner. OJ knows the property, like the back of his hand. He's not crashing into anything. I think he's saying to come out and distract the limousine driver. I can't prove it. Cato will not talk to me. He will not address it at all. So I'm sticking with that for now. That's a signal. It could be A or B, bump or signal.
44:31Okay, so just a couple things have always bothered me about this whole story. This is compelling what you're saying. And if this evidence you've described is accurate, it's mind-blowing that the world doesn't know this. It's mind-blowing that they got through an entire, the most public trial in the history of our country. and that many of these things, the first time most human beings are hearing this is right now, that's mind-blowing to me, number one. Number two, there was little parts of everything that just always thought, I'll be candid, I thought OJ did it, right? But I was around that, so I saw it.
45:07But this idea of the glove not fitting, you know, if it doesn't fit, you must acquit, that part to me never bugged me. What bugged me was how the heck does one glove end up at OJ's house? that just seems weird to me. Bizarre. Can you address your thing? I have two thoughts on it. One, how does he bring one club over there? Right? There's a part of me that's like, there's no way that's true. But then there's another part of me that thinks, in the heat of the moment, Furman's not going to take a glove and plant it because he's not 100 % sure OJ did it. So why would you then go hide or move evidence that early, not even knowing you got the right guy, not knowing what happened, you could lose your entire career by putting that glove there, maybe unnecessarily.
45:52So both of those sort of just, I don't, I can't, I can't get my mind around it. There's two theories. I'm going to give you both and I'm going to leave a little cliffhanger for these other guys to do their theory, because there's some other people working on this right now that are bringing up some good points about how that glove got back there. The first theory is the Stevens singular theory, which was legacy of deception. He was instrumental. He was a reporter from Colorado, had a source, said, you need to look at the glove, the blood, the bag and the stick. And he wrote a book called Legacy of Deception.
46:28He told the prosecution softly they wanted nothing to do with them. He went to the defense. He says Mark Furman takes the glove from the crime scene and puts it in the Bronco. okay he knows oj's involved he know he is he knows he is he knows it's nicole he knows where he is he lies and says oh i didn't know it was nicole till like six in the morning that he knew exactly who it was they they saw the pictures of oj in the house they knew who it was mark firman has a history of planting evidence okay period provable end of story did crazy things he made the mark Furman tapes, he talked about this.
47:11Then he tried to backpedal and said, oh, it was all for a movie. Okay, sure. This is the theme of everybody. They're all got like two, they're always flip-flopping. Okay. So he says, he puts it in the Bronco at first, leaves it in there. When he interviews Cato and Cato goes, I heard something. I was there an earthquake. I heard something on the back of my wall. Mark Furman leaves them for 15 minutes and nobody knows where Mark Furman is. Even Van Adder and Lang and I think Ron Phillips is there. They're not, they don't know where Furman is. They're still with Arnell and Cato. Furman disappears for 15 minutes.
47:46That's why F. Lee Bailey and the other lawyers, they try to say every minute, what's he doing? See, Stephen Singular's theory is he goes to the Bronco, he has a stick that he pulled from a fence, he picks up the glove, whether he has it in an evidence bag, or he just walks it in the back and drops it there. and he puts it there now that's the first theory okay the second theory is a new set of people are working on that they believe i don't want to say too much they believe that glove falls out of something not by oj doing that that someone else dropped it that's up to them i need to leave that open i can't talk too much about it i just don't know the the glove being there is one of the more bizarre parts of the entire trial to me.
48:35No, it makes me crazy. Yeah, me too. And yet at the same time, I'm thinking Furman's taken a pretty huge risk doing that that night, not knowing all of the elements. You have to listen to the Furman tapes. He planted evidence on other men before. Marsha Clark knew he was a cop. They knew they warned her, don't use them. Remember what Stephen singular saying and i knew steven he passed away what he's trying to say is mark wants to be in the center of the case so what better way for him to find the glove okay he decks himself right into it why is a couple things by the way this is just fascinating and thank you for the information i don't have and the sad thing is the funny thing is see you don't know about this because the media is blocking the story that's why you don't know even though i've been screaming from the mouth on top for five years and they're stuffed at all the major outlets and they refuse to tell the story why though so everything i always look at is like okay why would firman put the glove over there like realistically why did they not pay attention to the blood evidence at the scene why would the media now 30 years later why would they block this or they just not believe it do They just as simple as they don't believe it.
49:57We could give them partially that out, right? We could say, hey, they don't believe Chris Todd. They don't believe this Charlie guy. Problem is, did you talk to Charlie? Did you do any investigation? Because if you did, you'd see it. See, I'm not calling them lazy. What I'm saying, and I used other people to do it, not just me, because I had to prove they're not just mad at me. They blocked everybody else too, all of them. They blocked them all. I believe what they're doing is it's a paradigm. They don't want to change it, right? It's kind of like JFK. You got the museums. They don't want to change Lee Harvey Oswald.
50:35So if you say, oh, I know who the shooter was on the grass, you know, they don't want to hear it. They don't want to hear it. And this goes to the truth. And I talk about Copernicus and the stories of, you know, when people speak a truth, I'm not going to say Jesus. That's way out of my league. But when they speak a truth that nobody wants, an inconvenient truth, they shun it. They get rid of it. So it's not a weird, it's not that weird. You know what I mean? Inconvenient truth is your leading where I want to go. I don't want to go into the trial because, you know, I've done enough reading on the trial about, you know, even after jury selection, I don't think OJ was going to be convicted.
51:15I don't think, I think the legal team was tremendous. Chris Darden seems like a nice guy. Hey, Marcia, you have your theories about them. I don't even want to cover that. It looked like the deck was stacked. And obviously, I think even in retrospect, Marcia or Darden would probably tell you they'd do some things differently for sure. I've actually seen Chris Darden say that. I want to go after the trial. So there's obviously, most people don't know this, but there's a civil trial afterwards. Because most people think OJ was innocent. He got off. He wasn't innocent, but he was found. Right. He was acquitted, right?
51:49Right. Well, yeah, but then there was a civil trial. Why don't you just refresh everybody's memory what happened there? Because this is valid. And then on top of that, Chris, why would he then do these interviews and write a book if I did it? What was his motivation for doing it? Was it just money? Why did he do it? So talk about the civil and also OJ would even afterwards do all this, which is bizarre. the civil trial he is found guilty the preponderance of evidence 51 whatever you want to say he does long depositions he speaks he sings for days they got him in there for like seven eight days in the deposition he's wearing his different sweaters you can see by the different days by his clothing he's there forever he's talking you can't you can't pinch him one of his lawyers told him not to talk.
52:41And he said, no, I'm gonna. And I know the lawyer personally is a good guy. He told them, don't say a word. Let's just go to it. But OJ tried to talk himself out of it and he lost. So that was a$33 million judgment for the Browns and the Goldmans together that he was found responsible for their murders. He never paid a dime. What he did was they liquidated some of his stuff and I'm going to call out one of his friends right now um they got about 300 grand from things in his house you know what OJ's friends decided to do they decided to take the real jerseys and switch them with fake jerseys and rub dirt on them and pretend they were the jerseys and grab footballs and scuff them up in the driveway and then pretend those were the real ones and then that guy stole all the stuff yeah yeah yeah they're disturbing everybody around OJ is a scumbag.
53:38Anyone that ever interacted with him after the murders was a scumbag. Period. End of story. I can prove it 20 different ways from Sunday. So it's disturbing. He never pays. He goes, I won't work. I won't work. Okay. Now, now let's move on. He does interviews right away. Ross Becker, bang. They probably paid him a million dollars. I don't know how much they paid him. He did BET. He flew out to England. He did Judy Finnegan. He did that one. He does others. Ruby Wax. He does Chris Myers with ESPN. He wants to talk to you. He wants to talk. Nicole used to always joke about it. There he goes again, large head talking again.
54:21He was a talker. And look, I will never be on a level of OJ's popularity. I brought up myself from nothing. I've had some notoriety. It's addictive. It is. When I'm not, sometimes I'm like, oh man, I got to get back to those levels I was a few years ago. You want to go back. And I knew OJ would come forward eventually. And he did 12 years later in 2006, he decided to tell his story. And he did. He just didn't say Charlie's last name. He told you there's an accomplice. You didn't listen. You didn't want to believe them. And then nobody investigated this. It was easily investigated easily. So if I did it, the book that OJ wrote, I believe is what it's called.
55:12You believe that that is an actual confessional, not some parody or novel. That is a cryptic confession. And all he does is say, this is purely hypothetical. And when he does that if you really look at his face, you could tell he's lying. It's not hypothetical. Now, whether the Charlie guy represents both of the guys or the Charlie guy represents, it's a fake name for the other gentlemen, like they're blaming each other and they don't want to say his real name. Charlie's a term like Charlie don't serve, you know, Charlie company. It's a term. OK, so it's not like that has to be a person, right?
55:52People thought it was OJ's alter ego. That's what they really thought it was. That's what Darden says. I think Charlie's OJ. And look, he's not wrong. It's not a bad thought. But my question and challenge is to all of you is, why didn't you look at it? If he said it in 06 and he wrote it in a book, why didn't you investigate every single Charlie he knew? Why didn't you look at every piece of evidence again? And why not? That's why OJ says, too, this was the greatest murder case in history. Why didn't they really look at it? I find it curious. There'll never be another OJ again. He was a genius.
56:29And I hate to say it like that. What he did on this afterwards is complete brilliance. OK, not in a good way, but a lot of brilliant people are sometimes evil. And again, everybody, just for my audience, you know, this is Chris's evidence. I haven't been able to validate whether there was multiple blood at the scene and the footprints and all of that. But I've seen enough of this. And just in all candor, if my audience is wondering why I did it. I've had, I protect them too, but there's a significant person in OJ's legal team that I had some very late night extended wine with. Oh, okay. Cool. Many of the things that Chris is saying, I had heard elsewhere.
57:16That's just what I'll leave at. And so that doesn't mean it's accurate. I'm not pulling the two things together. I'm just telling you that I wouldn't have had Chris on if it was the first time I had heard any of these things. Now, some of the things Chris says, it's the first time I've heard them. But some of them aren't. And I'll just kind of leave it at that. Let me ask you a question. I've always been fascinated with what it would be like to be O.J. Simpson now the rest of my life after I know I've likely killed these two human beings. And I'm wondering if you have any insight or information.
57:51How did he live out the rest of his life? I mean, we know he went to jail and all that again, but did he carry guilt? Did he ever share with people privately how he felt? Like what's the profile on this guy as he's aging and facing mortality? Do you have any insight into anything about him at that point? Absolutely. I know people that knew him personally over the years. I knew a couple of different PIs that knew him, family members. I've spoken to a lot of people from this case. You know, if you look at OJ right after the acquittal, he used to talk to people outside his house at Rockingham eating a donut.
58:27He didn't care. this is a narcissist he's he's he's happy he's not paying child support anymore he's not paying alimony if he says he never had alimony whatever he doesn't have that headache yeah is he go to bed at night sad that the mother of his children is gone probably i'm sure he's human right but he kept living normal now supposedly he had a reality show he did a graphic video with a woman that he ripped the cameras out of the room. This is a funny story that they offered him a million dollars to do a adult movie. He showed up, classic OJ, and said, yeah, I'm going to do it. And he ripped the cameras out of the room.
59:08And they had the audio only. And so he, I think OJ became a criminal after this, right? He started to hang out with all these hustler types. The Vegas robbery happens. He's with a bunch of creepy guys. They're bringing guns to rob what? Football's in jerseys and a picture of Nicole. Why do you need a gun? You don't. They robbed Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Promong, who you could push over with your two fingers. OK, like there's there's no need. I think he was lost. I think he was cursed by what he did. Right. And I've seen mediums talk about Nicole punishing him and sending the the Christy Prody.
59:51was the Nicole lookalike. She looked exactly like Nicole. Look at OJ's girlfriend. It's creepy. I mean, very similar. And she was, they both were into drugs and she's off the rails. And he, you know, he also had hit money. He was given deals. He had an internet show he was going to do. He was one of the first people to do an internet show. If you look it up on MN1. So he was living his life, hiding money, not giving it to the Goldman's and the Brown's. People would put his house in a different name. Nothing was in his name. Somebody gave him a Bentley. There's all this stuff. So he, I think, did the best he could to make as much money as he could.
1:00:34He had a pension, 20 grand a year, a month. But I think he was always haunted. And he told people over the years, I should have just got on my plane. He tells Jeff Felix in jail, two drug dealers came to my house the night of the murders, two. Jeff writes it in the book. I met Jeff. And he also tells it in the Ed Opperman interview. Go listen to it, people. So OJ was telling us, no one can keep that secret. Come on. No one can. And even people close to OJ, they couldn't keep the secret either. They called me at midnight, threatening me, saying a bunch of stuff. And then I'd catch them lying about the evidence and they'd hang up.
1:01:14And, you know, I basically, look, I beat these people. I beat the dream team. And I'm not saying it in an arrogant way. It's just the truth. I beat all these people. I beat them. I met Barry Sheck. I met Bob Blazer. Shapiro said a nice thing about me once. Chris Darden sent me nasty texts. I beat all of you. It doesn't matter. Now, did I get lucky? Was I in the right place at the right time? Sure, a little bit. Well, so was Gary Webb. so was Woodward and Bernstein. Okay. So that's just my piece. And I'm, you know, I'm glad you let me kind of say it this way. Well, I'm glad I, I, uh, again, I just wanted the audience, you make up your own mind.
1:01:53I just asked the questions today. I had the ones that I would hope that many of you would ask the other thing I want to say too about Chris is this is not like, you know, his first rodeo. And so there's, he's done work on the Kurt Cobain situation that you guys can go get. You want to tell them about that? And also Biggie Smalls as well. That's a fascinating case. Like you're you pick the biggies after this OJ thing. So tell them a little bit about the work you're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I'm doing JonBenet Ramsey right now. And people can watch my interview on the Cinemills TV. I have a lot of my interviews over there.
1:02:30The Biggie, I did a Biggie deep dive interview. I do believe that is a fake news story about the killer. I do believe those killers are still alive on Biggie Smalls, and I do believe I can prove it. That's been censored again. Most of my stuff gets kind of censored. It's not a pity party. I'm just telling you facts, period. I helped a guy who witnessed Kurt Cobain get murdered. His name is Joseph Burns. He had the courage to come forward and to tell his story of what he saw that night. And that's called To Kurt, I'm Sorry. and I encourage people to reward him for his courage and his bravery. And Kurt Cobain did not commit suicide.
1:03:15That story also, the media has repeatedly blocked me for the last two and a half years. And that's okay. Like I said, I'm going to get them out. I will beat them. They're not going to stop me. Okay. And the book is selling okay, but there's no real press about it yet. So I encourage your readers to check out if you like that. Now, remember, Kurt Cobain, his death was two months before OJ's case. So these are both in 1994. And Kurtz was brushed under the rug because OJ happened in June. Kurtz was in April. So it's fascinating. And Biggie's was in 97. So it's kind of, yeah. It can be a little old, by the way.
1:03:59But I got to tell you, the audience, everybody, you make up your own minds. I just wanted to have the interesting story on today. I think you'd agree with me that there's enough in here that was worthy of at least a conversation. And it certainly is. It fills in some gaps if you believe what Chris is saying. And if you don't, I asked you the questions and you've come to your conclusion. But either way, Chris, I know you've taken a lot of arrows over the work you do. and very grateful that you take the time to share your work with us, your beliefs. And I'd at least want to leave it open where you can send people where to find you.
1:04:35Because this is everything about Chris is sort of like hidden because he's a PI. But where can they go and find anything you want them to find about you or your work? Yeah, sure. Yeah. And I really appreciate it. God bless you and everything you do. And most of my books are on a website called silvercoastpros.com, P-R-O-S, like professionals, silvercoastpros.com. And then I invite people to write me. One of my emails is hopscotchfree101 at Gmail. Just hopscotchfree, all one word. And then the number's 101 at Gmail. And there's other ways. My phone number's online. My door is always open. anyone can contact me.
1:05:18I always respond to people and I'm grateful for the people that have helped me. I usually have one or two civilian types on every case I have. And I want to give a shout out to those people a little bit for helping me over the years. So yeah, God bless your show. And I give a lot of glory to what I've done and the gifts I've been given to God and Jesus. And I want to thank you for that opportunity. God bless you, brother. Hey, everybody told you'd be an interesting hour not like the normal hour this is a different path today and i bet you're talking about it i bet you share this one with your spouse your boyfriend or your girlfriend let's have a conversation about it it's worth it it's one of the most important moments most compelling moments in american history of the last 50 years and uh this sheds some new light at least for some people all right everybody god bless you this is the ed mylin show
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What if the O. J. Simpson murder case still has explosive evidence the world has never fully seen?
Today’s episode is one of the most shocking and controversial conversations we’ve ever had on this show. I sat down with Chris Todd, a veteran private investigator who has spent years digging into the O. J. Simpson case, and what he shares will challenge everything you think you know about it. This is not just another recap of a famous trial. This is a deep dive into potential new evidence, overlooked details, and a theory that could completely change the narrative of what happened that night.
Chris lays out a case that goes far beyond what most people heard during the trial. He believes there is compelling evidence that suggests multiple people may have been involved and that critical pieces of information were never fully explored or presented. We get into details about additional blood evidence, multiple footprints, and inconsistencies that raise serious questions about how the case was investigated and ultimately presented to the public. If even part of what he is saying is accurate, it could reshape how this entire case is viewed.
We walk through the timeline step by step, from the moments leading up to the crime to what may have happened immediately after. I pressed him on the details, the logic, and the gaps, because I know you’re going to be asking those same questions. And what you’ll hear is a perspective that is both unsettling and incredibly thought-provoking. Whether you agree with his conclusions or not, there is no denying that some of the evidence he discusses deserves a closer look.
This episode is not about telling you what to believe. It’s about confronting the possibility that one of the most high-profile cases in American history may still have layers we don’t fully understand. If you thought this story was settled, this conversation might make you rethink that.
Listen with an open mind. Question everything. And decide for yourself what you believe really happened in the O. J. Simpson case.
Key Takeaways:
The potential new evidence that suggests the O. J. Simpson case may not be as clear-cut as many believe
Why some forensic details like blood evidence and footprints raise new questions
The theory that more than one person may have been involved
How parts of the investigation and trial may have overlooked key information
Why this case still sparks debate and controversy decades later
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