Josh Duhamel: The One Shift That Rewired His Life After 50

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2:06this is the end my life show all right everybody welcome back to the show i'm excited about today i've been a fan of this guy for a long time and i've been a fan of his acting work he's appeared in some small movies that you might have heard like Transformers. One of my favorite TV shows of all time was Las Vegas. He's appeared in that and totally disconnected from being on the show. This has nothing new with him being here today. I've been watching Ransom Canyon on Netflix right now, which is his new program that's out there. My wife and I have binge watched like seven episodes in a row. It's really, really good.

2:41And he's outstanding in it. And so I've always wanted to pick his brain. Then I find out he's become a wellness entrepreneur. And so I want to pick his business brain on top of all of that so it's really cool to have josh dumell here today welcome to the show brother yeah that's very sweet of you i'm glad to hear you're you're liking nansom canyon too it's really good well you're outstanding in it i don't know about the first scene it opens up with you in the shower there that was a little weird to watch with my wife you know oh well originally originally that scene showed my bare ass okay thank you maybe it's because i'm uh i'm not sure why that maybe maybe it's sagging i don't know maybe i need to do more squats more squat thrusts i'm not sure why Hopefully the testosterone is helping you with that a little bit.

3:21At least it helped me. So let's start. Let's talk business first a little bit. We'll talk acting. By the way, my mom is an All My Children fan. So this is like a really special interview for her today. A lot of you don't know, but that's basically where this man got his start. Is that right? Was that like when your first big thing was All My Children? Yeah. Yeah, that was my first real opportunity. Like I saw an old clip of that today. I'm doing some press here for Ransom Canyon. in New York and I saw an old clip from 2006. Wow. And yeah, that was, that was, those are the days that all my children back when I was 29, 30 years old.

4:00Is there any part of you that goes, I went from that to doing Transformers movies. So now I produced and now, I mean, is there a party that's kind of blown away by your longevity? You mean even that alone? I do feel very lucky, you know, and, and we could, we could talk about that. You know why that is, you know, a manager of mine, John Carabino, one of the, you know, my biggest advocates early on in my career and then all the way through, he's not in the business anymore, but he's an amazing dude. And he always said, just keep showing up, you know, just keep showing up. Even if you're not a hundred percent, you got to keep showing up and good things will happen.

4:32And that's really as simple as it is. I think, you know, as long as you just greet people with respect, work hard and do a good job and you'll keep working. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's been good and I do feel lucky for sure. Well, you know, but yeah, in your business, it's pretty rare to have the length of career that you've had. I mean, it's, I mean, I've had a bunch of friends who have had one or two good movies or a good TV show, but then like, you know, they run around Hollywood now recognized sometimes. And it's a hard life when you were well-known and then you're not, you know? And one of the reasons I want to have you on the team's like, Hey, you know, he's like become an entrepreneur on like longevity and health.

5:10And so it kind of ties everything together. I want to cover with you today, but I want to start with the business side of it because everyone that you get interviewed by is going to start talking with Netflix and movies. I want to talk business first, then we'll go back there a little bit. When I turned 45, stuff on me started turning south. You're talking about your booty. Everything with me, my energy level, my drive. When I say drive, I mean my drive in every imaginable way started to shift a little bit. You don't want to admit it as a dude. I'm in the gym every day. It's not like I wasn't working out.

5:44It wasn't like I wasn't eating pretty well, but just stuff started changing. And I got tested and found out, you know, internally, I was an old, I was becoming an old man with my hormones. Is that how you ended up? I want you to talk to him about Gatlin a little bit. And this is surprising that you're public about this because a lot of guys in your space aren't going to give any of their secrets away of how they've had longevity or still look like you look. So how did all this come to pass? Well, that's a really great way to sort of entree into this. I think that I was the same way. You know, I started feeling like I was apering off.

6:21You know, I just didn't have the same drive. I didn't, I couldn't keep muscle on. I was not, you know, I didn't have drive in a lot of different areas of my life. And I think that that was kind of where it began. I wanted to stay athletic, able to continue working. and and also the truth is i i had kids at a late age i had axel when he was you know when i was 40 and i had i have a 15 month old kid now and i just really really wanted to stay as is i want to get down in the dirt and roll around with them you know i want to be able to do the things that they deserve it is a taboo thing guys don't want to talk about especially the the trt that's a software replacement therapy i think that it's uh one of those things that guys for whatever they feel less manly talking about or whatever the reason is guys just don't talk about it and i almost didn't do this for that reason really i had some representatives of mine tell me not to do it and the more i thought about i was like why not because this has improved my life tremendously guys were asking me what i was doing and i didn't want to talk about it until i just told them that i was eating really well and working out and but the truth is i was i was doing a trt and i think that, you know, it's part of the reason I wanted to get into this business was to share my experience, what, you know, how much it's helped me and to help improve other guys' lives around the world.

7:40And by the way, it's Gatlin, right? Is it, is there, is it Gatlin.com? Where do they go? Gatlin.com. Yeah. G-A-T-L-A-N.com. I have to be honest with you. It changed my life. It literally changed my life. Do you think somehow genetically you're weaker if your hormone levels are low? It's such a silly thing, right? So is that what you did? You got tested and then ended up doing TRT just to be specific, if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah. I got tested and my levels were low. They weren't super low, but they were low enough to where it was. I could feel that it was affecting me. But I wanted to do it because I wanted to feel like I just wanted to get that that oomph back that I that I felt in my early 30s, late 20s, early 30s.

8:26and that's what I did. And you're right. It does. It really does change. It just changes your world. I wanted to make sure I asked you this when we were talking about the physical, you've had a long career and actually you're thriving. Now you could argue more than ever between the new show plus, plus the fact that you're producing, you know, these buddy games, all this stuff you've done, which by the way is hilarious. That is so good, but ransom, Um, like what, how much of this longevity and hitting your prime in your forties and fifties? Cause I, most kind of our demo is not just physical, it's mental and emotional for you.

9:03And are there things you do to feed yourself mentally and emotionally like that are your hacks at your level? Yeah, really good question. Um, you know, part of what we do at Gatlin too, is it's not just about prescribing things. You can get all kinds of different things, whether it's longevity stacks or GLP-1s or testosterone or hair replacement, ED, whatever. But our whole mantra is that, yeah, you can take that stuff, but you also have to change your habits a bit too. You've got to still work hard. I mean, you clearly work your ass off in the gym. I eat pretty well. I work out pretty regularly.

9:37Not as hard as I probably could or should, but I am pretty regimented about it. I do yoga, which is really helpful for both my flexibility, my core and my mind. Yeah, I just started that too. Yeah, it's amazing. And then, you know, I'm not afraid to – I have a group of guys that I talk to regularly about stuff that guys don't usually talk about. And I think that that's one thing that we want to make okay in the male population too, that it's okay to talk about this stuff because we deal with stuff that a lot of times we sort of push down. You mean you got some dudes? Is that what you mean? Where you can go, hey, I'm going through something.

10:13Or do you actually like a group you guys meet regularly? Yeah, it's like a group of guys that get together and talk about stuff. It's been really helpful and it's changed my world in a lot of ways just because, you know, for my relationships, my ability to be a friend, to be a dad, all those kinds of things. So the Taco Bell thing's been dropped or not? Like I do my research on people. So this thing where you were like totally into Taco Bell for a while and talking about it, have you dropped that or like the testosterone power through the Taco Bell? You know, Joe Kaczynski directed those. The guy that did the Top Gun Maverick.

10:49Yep. They were really well directed. I mean, this guy is super talented, even in Taco Bell commercial. But yeah, I'm not afraid to eat some Taco Bell once in a while. I think that's really important that people know that when people meet my kids in public, they'll be like, so what's your dad like? You know, he never sleeps. He's they're like, he's actually, you know, you know, likes Netflix, lays on his back, eats Doritos, but at the same time has this discipline part of his life as well. So everything in moderation, including moderation. I love that. I totally love that. I don't want you to be humble for a minute.

11:24Like you can't last as long as you've lasted in the business you're in. I'm going to give you a secret. I ask around about guys that are going to be on my show. So I have a bunch of friends in the business. And one of the things they all tell me is like, he's actually a genuinely wonderful guy. Like he treats people great. He shows up on time. He's really good at what he does. So I've heard these things about you, right? So that's baseline to me though. What are you great at? Like, don't be humble. People listen to this like, I want to be elite in my career as well. And you're a real humble dude, but don't be for a second.

11:58What's your secret thing? Like, what are you great at that's made you, I mean, you've had a career that's, you know, what three decades out now or four i don't know three decades i guess three decades so so what is it honestly man i feel like i've always had to really outwork everybody because for the longest time i didn't feel like i belonged in this business i had to like really go to places you know whether in the acting stuff especially for like scenes that required you to go dark i would go there and really go there and it probably wasn't the most healthy thing but i think in retrospect, it was kind of therapeutic and cathartic in a way because I worked through some stuff.

12:37I've always had to work, feel like if I had to work harder, I let myself be emotionally accessible, I guess. That was one thing I had to, I knew that I always could do it. When I first got into this business, I knew I had the ability to do it. It was just getting past the fear of looking stupid, the fear of embarrassing myself. And when I got past the point of not caring what people thought and, and was okay with looking stupid is when I really sort of broke through. And I've always kind of stuck with that. And then just be, I just like, I don't know, honestly, I just, as far as the acting stuff, I think that's what it is.

13:14Um, and I'm, and I, and honestly, I feel like I've, I really don't feel like I've made it. I feel like I'm still having to grind. I still have to grind every day. I'm lucky that I, I do coaching too. And so I just signed somebody who used to run a country, a pretty big one. I'll leave it at that. I'm never going to say the gender. But anyway, this person and I, the first conversation, they ran a large country, like a very important one. And they said to me, I still don't feel like I've made it. And I thought that is such a unique thing in people that are successful that they end up, they have this nuance.

13:47And I think you have it. I want to ask you about this. And I like this in my friends. They have confidence. They're not, they have self-confidence because if someone doesn't have self-confidence, you're going to be carrying them through their entire life. You've got to have some level of self-confidence, but they have this equal measure of humility and they kind of toe this line. So people with no confidence don't end up ever achieving anything because you're going to get what you believe you're capable of. But people with no humility end up not working as hard, taking things for granted, treating people a particular way.

14:18Does that make sense when I say it out loud to you, the humility thing with the confidence? And if you're being honest about you, Is that a decent description? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I have a lot of sort of anecdotes that back that up. I mean, the great ones like Michael Jordan or the other ones, they have this unique God-given talent, but they don't just rely on that. They also have this, I don't know if it's ego-driven or what it is that forces them to have, they feel like they got to keep working. And that combination, I think, is what makes guys like that great. My dad has always been really, without even meaning to, has been really influential, very wise in a lot of ways.

15:05But in a very simple way, he said, I remember he just said to me one time, because we used to have this used car dealership on Broadway in Minot, North Dakota, where I grew up. and next door to that what this was it was the last house on broadway they were sort of tearing everything down and building new things that were going to be on this on the main street in town but this old guy was the last holdout and he has a really it was a shack of a house and i asked him is he poor and my dad said no he's not poor he's rich because he's a good human who treats people right and and i'll never forget that i don't know if those are his words exactly but it was he was rich because he didn't not because he had all the material things but because of the way he lived his life and i think that's really stuck with me and so when i'm on a set you know i don't care who you are if you're the if you're the network president or if you're a pa who's just starting they still i still treat them all the same yeah and i think that that's really helped me because i think that they are people always deserve that you know human respect and dignity.

16:14By the way, that's what I hear about you. Obviously, you're a great actor. You can't go this long without being great. You have to be great at it. But there's a lot of people that are great. By the way, I just heard a Jordan thing. You'll get a kick out of this. So everyone knows the story that he was cut from his high school team and all that stuff, right? Whether that's even accurate or not, I'm not even completely true. It's hard for me to believe Michael Jordan couldn't make his high school JV basketball team, but that's the story. But a story that I know to be true because his trainer Grover is a good friend of mine.

16:40did you know that the entire time he was with the bulls he never lost a sprint in practice so he was that big of a freak about competing and and you know a lot of the guys don't even want to practice right they're at this level anymore not only does he have practice when they'd run sprints he made sure he won every sprint that was every year he was a bull no one beat him in sprints just want everyone to hear that about that's the little secret stuff behind the scene of greatness i think yeah and it's just pure work you know and i think did you That's why you're so great. So, hey, guys, I want to jump in here for a second and talk about change and growth.

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19:29something you modeled or you saw when you were younger or anyone you've worked with i mean walberg is a pretty good example of that walberg walberg doesn't stop he's to bed early and up super early every day um that's the one that comes to my you know there's all the guys that i've worked with early they all have this really specific sort of attention to detail thing that they do and i you know i there's a lot of shit that i need to work on too um you know i could be better about you know i could i could do more i really could but you know i'm i'm doing the best i can and uh you know but i look at guys like that's like wow i don't know if i could go to bed at 7 30 and wake up at 3 30 every day yeah he does that's another level i mean that's what he does yeah uh so by the way it's actually true our our daughters are roommates And so, yeah, it's actually very, it's very true.

20:28Like it's, you're right though, by the way, because it's like, I'm sort of known as a disciplined workout guy or whatever in business. And then like really not. Cause I ended up at three 30 doing that crap that he's doing. It's like unbelievable. So it's one of the names that comes to mind for me too. Same person. Yeah. I don't want to be too personal, but I do want to ask you since you brought Mark up, here's what I try to do when I have somebody on like you. And I know there's not anyone specifically like you, but like, I want to, I want the audience to go, okay, I'm not an actor. I'm not whatever you are, six, three or whatever.

20:58I'm not like classically good looking, whatever it is, but what are the elements? What are the things in play? Like what's the recipe that makes somebody successful? And so I try to pick those things out. And what I find with people that are in your profession, a lot of the times they have a hard time telling me, like they just do things unconsciously well. And because you're great at something, you take it for granted. Well, you know, I work hard. I guess I'm pretty good at this. But like, so you take it for granted because it's something you've lived with for so long. You've said before, you know, you're a father.

21:31There's humility that you carry with you. Mark's very public about his Catholic faith. And we don't have to go deep into your faith, but I just want to know faith in general in your life. how important has that been to keep you grounded and have some humility and is that a place you go to for some answers in those dark times that you referenced oh yeah oh yeah for sure and i find that there's a direct correlation between how connected i am spiritually and how i'm operating out in the real world you know if i'm really connected and i'll go through phases sometimes i'm a lot more connected and i'm just a better dad i'm a better friend i'm a better brother i'm better coach and when i'm not i can feel it and that's when i feel like that's why i truly believe that it's important to stay connected you don't have to be super religious to me it doesn't matter what religion you are but if you're connected spiritually you tend to operate on a higher vibration you know and i think there's something there's something there's something there's that the energy about that i think is what is attractive to people and i know that when i'm connected spiritually, I'm a lot more attractive and a lot more easy to be with and to work with.

22:46And to, you know, that to me is, I think is, is what it is. I brother, I just, just an hour ago, I was doing a show that's mine, my solo episode. And I said that exact sentence. I said, it's a high, it's, it's a higher vibrational frequency because a lot of times when you're religious or you believe in a particular faith, you're not supposed to talk about frequencies and energy and all this other stuff. You're supposed to just be in your Bible or whatever, your Koran or whatever it is. I actually navigate both worlds. I'm a person of really deep faith. I'm a Christian, but energy is obvious. I think the reason you're successful, and I think the reason most people are successful, and it's the reason it's so hard to quantify and define, is that there's a particular energy they bring to the things they do.

23:30and you feel something when you're in your presence, you feel something when you work with them. And in your case, it's a unique thing, very special thing that you have that you can transfer energy through a camera. That's extremely special that not everybody can do that. Some people it's lost in a, they only have it one-on-one or they can have it in big groups, but not one-on-one. You've met people like that. They're these great singers in front of big arenas and you meet them one-on-one and you don't feel the same thing. yeah and then where you're unique i think it's the energy that most people bring and if i were to mention people that you admire in your life i bet you maybe i'm wrong i bet you it's like what you felt when you were in their presence or when you watched them perform it's the energy that's the frequency yeah that's so that's so fascinating i love this stuff because it is you're right it is it is a spiritual thing it is something that's sort of undefined it's why they call it faith but But I also like to look at it scientifically, too, because there is something real about the energy that you give if you're connected spiritually, because it sort of goes through you and people feel that.

24:38I'm not perfect about it. Believe me. I go through phases where I'm hardly connected at all. And sometimes I really am. That's why it's just such a great reminder that, you know, whatever your higher power is, stay connected to that because it's a lot. So the world's a lot safer place and you're connected. Amen. By the way, everyone, everyone listening, like really evaluate that part of yourself. You're always making people feel something you are. So if you're more intentional about what it is, like like I I'm pretty good at energy, like speaking. I speak on big stages, 20, 30 ,000 people. I can transmit energy to a room.

25:12I don't know if I'm as good one on one. I'm pretty good at this thing we're doing. You obviously you're great at the way you treat people around you, as you said, whether that's the grip or that's the leading actor, but you also have a unique skill that you can bring energy through a camera into someone sitting in a crowd or in their home. That's unique energy. A great school teacher can do it in front of a classroom. A painter does it when they paint. You know, there's different ways that you can do this in your life, but it's if you're cognizant on the energy you bring to something, you're going to be, by the way, you said scientific this will trip people out were you a biology major yeah and that you do not look or sound like a biology major to me not that i know what that looks or sounds like but like it trips me out i i was i i it was not an easy uh path i you know i took uh uh organic chemistry twice uh it was a few there's a few that i stumbled on but yeah i made it through and i that this is true and i talk about this a lot too you know yeah i have a biology degree and i don't use it but i got it and i think that i think and i tell i tell my son this too and i want to talk i have a question for you about your kids too it doesn't matter i mean ideally if you're going to go spend that money and get your degree you want to use it out there in the real world but the real i think the real thing is with getting a you know that degree and you don't need it to go be super successful but if you're going to start it you should finish it because if you don't that might be your habit going forward is not starting something and not finishing it it's going to be tough you know and let me can i ask you a question really quick about your kids yeah please how many do you have i have two i've got a boy and a girl they're but one's uh out of school and playing golf and in business and the other one's uh in college so let me ask you this as a successful guy um did you what do you what was your upbringing did you grow up lower middle alcoholic dad who got recovery who got sober so lower middle class and uh um definitely a little trauma in my upbringing but a great dad once he got sober that's isn't that amazing yeah yeah sorority is an amazing thing so how do you pass on the things that you had to learn to your kids because we work so hard to give our kids what we didn't have.

27:24I'm not sure we're doing them any favors because they're not having to go through the same kind of struggle that we did, but you can't just manufacture that struggle either. It's such, it's the rub of having a little bit of success in your life. It's the hardest thing. And I've, I, when I was young, I'd ask my buddies this, I remember my daughter came out of, I think it was second grade one day. I picked her up from second grade and she gets in the car and she just looks surprised. I said, what's going on, honey? And she goes, daddy, are we rich? And I said, why would you ask for that? She said, well, all the kids in school say that we're, we're really rich.