Start Livin' Again w/ Matthew McConaughey

28:28And then we'll get back into stuff here. Yeah, so 9 a.m. April 24th, myself, Tony Robbins, Dean Graziosi, Trent Shelton, and Mary Forleo, we're going to get under the hood of some of the stuff we've been talking about. You know, Tony and Dean came to me and said that he really appreciated the approach book that, as I call it, what Greenlights is. maybe like look would you would you like to dig deeper and start defining a process create tools that we can share that can be transformative for people and individuals in their own lives make it even more personal so people can apply it in their own life so i was like damn right i would and so that's what we're going to be getting under the hood of on the 24th and you know as i said there's a science satisfaction i believe leads to the art of living it's like knowledge and wisdom it the art of living is in is up to each of us individually you know you talked about earlier sometimes it's theories i'm not interested in hallmark cards and pep rallies you know um because what do they do they last they last maybe a day or two and that's it that's right i really think going to be able to share some tools that with some introspection and a little effort can be proven to work in your life not just mine and another thing i want to say is i'm not making straight a's on all this stuff either i'm work i'm work i'm working on it and we all know if we're trying to get better and trying to be more ourselves we got job security you know what i mean that's so good that is so good you know what i mean yeah but i got to tell you something you're not making straight A's, but you actually know what the report card looks like.

30:15And that's one of the things, just give you an example. Cause I got to tell you something. I'm so, it made me feel better that I learned that there was a science and an art behind your achievement. I think a lot of times, even in my own case in business, there's a part of it. Obviously you're an amazingly hard working, gifted actor, but God gave you some good looks, gave you this swagger, gave you this amazing voice. There's certain things you got. Right. And I think it's easy when you watch, even for me, So I'm like, I got a little bit of the kind of got a little lucky. And I'm not saying there isn't blessing and luck involved in life.

30:46But then when I started to read about your work and I read the book and I'm listening to your stuff and I'm preparing for the interview, I'm like, whoa, wait a minute here. This is a man who's lived a very intentional existence, very intentional existence. We'll talk a little bit more about that in a minute. But not only are you not getting straight A's, neither am I, by the way. But I kind of have a concept of how I grade myself. and you've come up just to give you an idea of everybody what'll happen on the 24th when you just listen to this one little thing you kind of have like five areas you grade yourself on like almost every single day right do you remember what those are the five areas or i think there's five like different things career health family uh relation with god and uh was it husbandry and fatherhood friends friends friends right so i'm checking in on my credits and debits i'm trying to keep the five in the black and we all know that man when our career is really cruising the old fatherhood and husbandry can start slipping into the red um friendships can kind of go into the debit section And I don't see a way to keep them all at peak condition.

32:01But it's just, again, checking. Don't let one of them drop too low into the red. Go tend that garden and pull some weeds on that one that's dropping into the red, even though you don't think you have time sometimes. And I've got to get better. I've faltered on friendships, I think, mostly in probably the last 10 years. That's understandable with the family and stuff. Most of my friends understand. But I could have been a better friend. And I can be a better friend. You know, I have to watch careers rolling and I'm jamming and I'm just like, let's go, let's go, let's go. I got to check in with my health.

32:36Got to make sure that I'm keeping my mind, my body, my spirit healthy. Make sure I'm reminding myself, especially when things are rolling well, remember to bend the knee McConaughey and say some thank you and be number two and look around and appreciate what you got in your life. family you know sometimes you get kids and the world the life becomes about the kids and guess who the kids wouldn't be here without their mama wife got to work on the husbandry stuff yeah damn it forgot about that a date I thought we were all just kids because the kids need us but I didn't think you did oh yeah you do too I need you too we got to check in sometimes the kids are going great and then in the relationship with the the spouse isn't going as well.

33:22So it's trying to keep all of those in the black, or at least not letting any of them get too low into the red. I love that analogy. And here's what it is. It's like, just if you don't have some kind of system or process to which you check these things, you do, you know, interesting when I heard that piece of content from you, I've asked that question to a lot of my, I just did an interview I just completed with Mauricio Yamanski who runs a big real estate office called the agency. His wife's Kyle Richards from the Beverly Hills Housewives. Anyway, and I asked him about those five areas and it's interesting.

33:55He said, yeah, probably friendships have slipped the most. And in my case, definitely friendships are the thing that slipped the most. And sounds like that in your case as well. But just to have a support card where I'm like, hey, it's slipping. Let me send some messages to my buddies. Maybe let's schedule a trip. Let's do something. Let's just not just maintain things, but make sure that I'm actually adding deposits to these accounts, so to speak, not always just making withdrawals all the time. And you know what a good tip is? It's a simple one that has done wonders and had a friend remind me of this two years ago.

34:25And it goes back to that early thing about not needing, not always soliciting. It's so easy to do. Just send a, hey, think about you. How you doing? Through a friend. Because when do we usually call those ones when we hadn't called them off? When we need something. We need it. Right? But just sit and they call back. Oh yeah, everything's good. What do you need? Nothing, man. Just checking that goes so far. Oh, it goes. And I know it because I've received some of those from my friends that are going, no, I didn't need nothing. I just checking on you. I'm like, Oh, thanks man. Okay. Yeah. That's you're still there.

34:58The one little thing I've been doing and that, by the way, that's better. But one little thing I do instead of texting and I'm doing that exact thing I'll do in the morning, I do five of these. I do it once a week. I wasn't doing it every day. And I just, there's some things you put up system in place. You're like, I can't maintain this every day. You know what I mean? So I try to do things now like I can maintain. So it's Mondays, but every Monday, and I'm pretty good about this now, Mondays, I do five little videos to my friends and say, hey, man, thinking about you this morning. I love you.

35:23We haven't touched base in a while. I just want you to know you're on my heart. I said a prayer for you just now this morning. Hope you have a blessed week. just so they see my face, feel my spirit a little bit. And I feel like I've done better than just send them a text or not doing it at all. And it's, and the reason was two years ago, I read this book called green lights and I'm like, Hey, I got to maintain this area. I went and watched a YouTube video of yours. Maybe you're given like even a college graduation. I don't know what it was. Oh, that commencement speech maybe. Yeah, I think it was that, but anyway, I give you credit for that, but it's just a different level of it is making that video that I do.

35:54I do that. That's cool. That's a great idea. And how easy is it to do? right you know how good it feels to land on their eyes on that monday morning and going head right on that's pretty damn cool

36:11what about uh why is the word unbelievable a bad word this is awesome the silly word unbelievable is a silly word why It's silly. Unbelievable. Jeez, we throw that around. We use it. We call awesome things unbelievable. We call beautiful. We call unbelievable sunset. Wow, so beautiful. Unbelievable run. God, what an athlete. Unbelievable athlete. Wait, he just did it.

36:46Unbelievable we're going to war over there. Unbelievable that earthquake happened. the beautiful and the tragic side. We throw it around loosely. And it's silly because we're removing ourselves from reality. We're living. Unbelievable lets you live in a false extra credit. You don't appreciate the miracles and the beauty of everyday life. And you don't give credit to the evil mankind can possess. It's a fool's word. Nothing is unbelievable. It just happened. And if there's one thing, and when it comes to people, when we use it with people, oh, man, unbelievable. He stood me up. He stole my cash.

37:29And there's one thing you can depend on people being people and people and unbelievable things. But the things we will do, it's not unbelievable. It just happened. It's a fact. So it's about getting rid of that word and giving more gratitude and testament to the things that we see that are awesome in our lives, the great play, the great success, the great beauty. It's also giving credit and looking in the eye the tragedies of the world and the things that we will, the evil mankind can possess. It's not unbelievable. We better sober up. And in that truth, I think is a much, is we deal much better.

38:09Unbelievable kind of lets us off the hook. You're right. I never even thought about it that way. I just don't think the word should be in the dictionary. Awesome. Incredible. I've gone to awesome. To be honest with you, that's my new thing. I've gone to awesome. Awesomeness. Awesome. No, I'm serious. I think language has power. I think it informs your filter of your world, of your life. The other thing, I think if something's unbelievable, somebody else did, then it's impossible for me to do it. I don't want to believe that it's not believable. I want to believe that it's possible. It just happened.

38:40Believe it. It just happened. I just seen the dude score. He just did that 360 dunk. They just sang that song. Right. It actually happened. It is actually believable. No, you're a million percent right. Do you worry? You a worrier. Do I worry?

39:01Do I worry? I. Yeah, I think I worry. I think I know I have I know I'm concerned with my future with my kids future with our family future with the world's future with United States future I have concerns and I project I try and project and I try to engineer ways within the household or ways of sharing and speaking with others that I think can be restorative or give a higher percentage of getting the outcome that I think would be the best or the most constructive, the most useful, the most healthy for my family. And the world happens or my plan goes, it's the fan, you know, find out your kids are actually DNA is more than the environment they're in and you can have as much control about who they were as you thought and they do their own thing and hopefully whether it's in the family or whether it's in the world when things don't go the way we hope they should or would be the most constructive and healthy hopefully those are stages and they're not fait accompli that it's not like oh that's how it is now.

40:29I don't, I hear what I don't worry about. I'm not looking forward to it, but I don't worry about death. I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm damn excited about what might happen when it happens. And, but I don't worry about it. I'm not in a rush to, I don't work hard to avoid it. I don't go looking for it. I'm not a fool. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not looking to get out of here early or I'm looking to get out of here on time. I'm also not working my tail off to try and go I necessarily want more time. I think it would be good for all of us and not just in the death and eulogy question but in life every day is we're told more is quantity, quantity, quantity, quantity.

41:20More years, more money. Quantity. It's a vertical ladder. We don't give enough room for defining quality in quality. And if quantity doesn't, if the quantity we're chasing, whether it's years or money, whatever, doesn't give more quality to our lives than we're using the wrong calculator. And so I am of the, I'd rather live, you know, 60 happy and healthy than 120 not. whether that's 80 or 140 whatever that's going to be so it's a roundabout way of saying i don't i don't that's one of the things i don't worry about uh i do everything i can to to to stay healthy and alive and i'm not looking looking for trouble but i think one of the reasons though that you don't and that many do is that my dad passed away uh about two years now and i've had some friends recently get ill that are in really difficult positions.

42:21And what I have found with most people that are afraid of death or regret things in their life, most regrets are acts of omission, things we didn't try, things we didn't experience, not mistakes we've made. And it's really interesting because so many people have these fears of making a mistake or what they think is a failure. And I think at the end of life, they're afraid of it, most people because they never really experienced new things, tried difficult things, put pressure on themselves, challenged themselves. And it appears to me that you live or living a life where you are, you know, you're seem to be kind of interested in the expansion of your being, the expansion of you as a man and what you can understand about yourself and others in life.

43:07And you try things and even this, what you're doing on the 24th, seriously, stepping into this, you know, sharing what was in all these journals you wrote over the years, you know, that you're not going to end up at the end of this life, whenever it is with a bunch of omitted options or chances you didn't take. You think that's probably part of it? 100%. Look, I don't like failing. Do I have a certain fear of failure? Sure. But I tell you what keeps me up at night, not knowing, not finding out. That sucks. I can't, I can't, I can't sleep. That, that regret. And as much as I don't like failing, I know that I would rather fail and have found out than sit there and stay up at night pushing going.

43:59It was right there. I didn't, why didn't that, that, that makes my molars crunch in my sleep. Minor crunching right now, as you said, it seriously, it's exactly what I was doing. it's not that that's a feeling i don't like and look we talked about it earlier we're in a world that's judging us all the time you know you may have heard this this uh and you you were talking about we were talking about the jumbo living in the jumbotron living like oh how's it gonna look or how's it gonna feel you ever hear that that study they did that i don't know it was 20 years ago that the highest dopamine was was performing the act hitting to the top of the mountain the Then five years later, what was a higher dopamine hit was recording, getting proof of the act.

44:43And then five years after that, it was pressing send to share it, had the highest dopamine hit. So we're looking for this approval. And the world today is right there, to be honest, to give us a thumbs up or thumbs down. And we can get falsely exaggerated by the thumbs up from a bunch of strangers, especially with our kids. their identity can be formed on this thing by a bunch of strangers going yes cool or no uncool and that or that depends on what kind of day they're gonna have so true oh so i got a feeling we're gonna we're gonna get to a spot or at least we all will be at that spot when we're at the end of our days look back and go oh why did i hesitate at that false veil of kool-aid of approval i was looking at that it was a mirage that wasn't real and i and i placated to it and i held back because i didn't want the bruise i didn't want to take the risk because i didn't want to get the thumbs down so to speak and i think we're going to see that that was a bunch of bullshit it was that's remarkable to hear from somebody who's you know let's be real you're mainly in an industry that is probably the most prolific in terms of what other people think or likes or reviews or my gosh like you you have been bred in an industry that like that's like almost seems like that's the culture of the industry is that it's very difficult i heard you say one time that even sometimes in the hollywood industry if you mention your faith or something like that that almost heads drop like because that isn't the the cultural thought yeah that's really true huh yeah you'll get some not not a consensus more look i think privately you get more whether they're blames or not but when you're doing it publicly you'll get that kind of we're going there you'll get a few you get you get a bit of that like yeah uh but then oh jumbotron I'm third person, not the place or time.

46:50I don't want to look happy about that. Actually, let me put my hands down. Interesting. You see the projection of weight. How might that be perceived? Interesting. And I don't judge someone for that. It's just kind of how it is a little bit. You said, though, something about you that stays on this. This is flowing perfectly, by the way. So thank you. But there's this quote I read of you said, I'd rather be a good man than a nice guy. Yes. And I think it goes to this point to some extent about standing for something. And so elaborate on that, because I think, you know what, when you've not had a lot of results in your life and maybe you lack a little bit of confidence, you just want to blend in and you want to be a nice guy.

47:31And you said, no, I'd rather be a good man. What's that mean? It's a little bit of, I also say in the book, be less impressed, more involved. Yeah. Right. Nice guy. Not a bad thing to be. but you are just connecting the safe dots, staying in the lines, kind of wearing whatever hat the party's wearing, being whoever the conversationalist you're with in, kind of being what you think they might want you to be. You're not involved. You're not really involved. You're not having an opinion. You're not saying, actually, I disagree in the face of the masses that might have a different opinion. just kind of keeping it safe, not being an asshole.

48:21You're not destructing the place, but being a nice guy, a nice guy all the time can, what is your identity? You got to have judgment to have identity. And nice guys sometimes don't even have a judgment or discernment. No, I prefer this over this. Nice guys always go, well, whatever, whatever, you know, and And a good man has to sacrifice some things, has to take some risk and take some responsibilities and follow through on them. And no, it may not be popular, but is it popular in his soul at 2 a.m. alone in his bed? and does he have do we have the courage to take that into the daylight as emerson says tomorrow when the lights are on and you're in the stadium do we have the courage to go i know that's true i'm gonna be and i know this is i know this is true i will follow up on this in the face of adversity um a good man doesn't go looking for trouble i think a good man as you said omits placating to certain temptations that you go, nah, that'd just be being either a tyrant or on the other end of the scale, I'd just be being a nice guy.

49:47You know, it's got to, here's what it is. Everything's got to cost us something. Everything does cost us something. And I think a good man, a good woman, will put their ass on the line for the cost. And it's worth more. The credit or the debit, the win or the lose, it's worth more. That currency is worth more. It's sterling. It's not fictional money out there. It's not monopoly money. A nice guy is kind of playing with monopoly money. Eh, okay. Didn't really matter. Come see, come saw. Yeah. And. I don't know, that's just going to get. Also be more boring, more boring. And I think it comes. I've just never heard it termed that way.

50:42So here's how profound that was for me. My son went off to college. I read your book. My son went off to college and I said this is in our house now just to give you some credit for something. I said to my son, I said, Max, you're going off to college and give your kids advice. I said, Max. be a good man don't be a nice guy and what that meant in our world was hey man when you're confronted with something where you need to fit in and do something that's against your character and your values and beliefs you don't need to be a nice guy you need to be a good man right something comes up you need to stand up for something that you believe in be a good man don't be a nice guy you know and that's i think it manifests itself in every single area of life I think it's a profound thing.

51:20Be a good person, rather than just a nice person. Have a life of value. And I think where that comes from, this is why I think this event is so important. I think when you decide you're going to just be a nice guy and kind of blend in, you are now living with a false belief that you weren't born to do something great with your life and you're supposed to exist. I think when you start to have this knowing that I'm supposed to do something great with my life, I'm supposed to make a difference. I'm supposed to have something. It doesn't have to be in big – whatever people measure is big ways, big academy awards, small, you open the door for somebody who needs it.

51:51They're both great things in your life, right? And so I think people start to blend in the minute they begin to believe they've got no destiny. They've got nothing to offer. They've got nothing to contribute. And then all of a sudden, that's the disease. The symptom is they become a nice guy. The symptom is they fit in. Don't you think? Yes, I do.

52:12This leads me into something. There's a word that I think has been getting a bad rap for a while. And hopefully we'll uncover some of those on the 24th if we don't cover them here today. But one is this ego has been getting a bad rap. We got to have ego. Remember I said earlier you got to have judgment to have identity? Everything's personal. we got to have an ego, a sense of I, an understanding, a subjective experience in this life. That doesn't mean it's at the exception of a collective experience or the collective good. It's why I believe in the word selfish, that truly selfishness doesn't, that the definition of selfishness is, the true definition, I believe, is not excluding what your neighbor needs.

53:02But it is, I believe if we're truly more selfish, that that's how we are and can become more self-less. That it all goes through the vessel of the I before it gets to the we. And those are not a contradiction. The choices that are best for ourselves, that are the most constructive, that will pay us back longer in the future, are usually the choices that are best for the most amount of people. and we make this contradiction like no ego kill the ego i get rid of it and no don't be selfish well and everything we do personal it's got to go through us to go out to share it it's got a means it's got to cost us something you're right there's all right you are that could i just elaborate i'm gonna uh my friend Rob Dyrdek and I were talking about this.

53:59We're saying, hey, at one point we were talking about how like, hey, man, I don't have any other addicted to, I'm not addicted to significance anymore. We're both lying to each other. Hey, I have no significance. And over time, we kept saying this to each other and I'm like, is that really true? I have no significance needs in my life anymore. That's a damn lie. Of course I do. I still want significance. I still want validation. I still want to feel good about myself. What has happened is the way in which I gain significance has changed and to your exact point it's so no one's ever said that ever in 500 episodes on the show but my selfish need for significance i feel most significant when i'm contributing to another person but it went through the eye so that i could help the we man you're right about that it's is it okay it is okay for me to say a large part of what I love about Camilla and I's charity with the Just Keep Living Foundation is how good it makes me feel to receive their thanks.

55:01Yes, that's okay. Am I doing it just for that? No, but that goes through me and does help me make me want to do more and give more opportunity to these young men and women. To say that, no, I can't feel good, that that doesn't make me feel good to receive that gratitude would be a lie. It'd be complete bullshit. And again, where the two reciprocate, I think that's the honey hole. And you just said it. What makes you feel more significant? Doing something for others. Look, I am even, I think we've got to admit some of this stuff. Like, you know, no one wants to say they're vain. I'm vain. I'm vain.

55:45Yeah, I've got myself looking in the mirror maybe an extra two or three times. Okay, great. I could argue that it's helped me maybe be in better shape. If there's a group of somebody that maybe I'm attracted to jogging through the park today, I might do a few extra push-ups more than if they're not jogging through the park. Vanity. I don't know. And just saying, hey, that's base. Hey, that's okay but is it feeding something i wish it look it'd be great to be a human and be so pure and unattached and detached that it's all absolutely for pure reasons i'm not that evolved i think it's fair to say i don't think most of us are that evolved and that's okay you're right here's how right you are by the way if you take that to the extreme it's like a cop out for not achieving anything and not doing anything so you can take some of these belief systems that are there's no ego there's no significance i don't want anything for me and that's the actual reason you're using as an it's not true you just use it as an excuse now you should unpack more of that on the 24th what you just said because the other thing you said earlier i want to say one thing you said earlier that was a great nuance i asked if you worried and you said well i have concerns and i think those are different things like i there's this quote you had where you said i've had many crises in my life most of which never actually happened yeah to me that's worry right that's that's that's debilitating thought whereas concern is constructive and productive because you're you're being um proactive almost uh in creating a solution don't you so i think that would be something to really yeah i'm not again coming off of the heels of thinking that unbelievable shouldn't be in the dictionary, I don't worry.

57:39Because it's like, I'm not going to be, nothing that's going to happen, am I going to go unbelievable? So I don't worry. I am concerned more about things that I have some control over. If I don't have control over it, and I say this all the time, my friends are like, why are you so relaxed on a plane? I go, because if something happens to the pilot, I'm pretty damn sure I'm not even in the top 10 of the next best person to fly the plane. So I can't do anything about it. So I'm like, it's a net, whatever it is. I'm relaxed. Now, if I have a pilot's license, I might be a little more concerned and worried while I'm flying the plane.

58:19Cause I'm like, something goes down here. I might be the next guy up. So good. Oh my gosh. That is so good. Let me ask you this. I wish we had three hours, but that's why they're going to get April 24th with you. I've enjoyed this, brother, so freaking much. Because when you're around somebody who lives intentionally, a little bit of a contrarian thinker, but there's truth to what they say, it causes you to look at yourself more deeply. And that's really what's happening to me when we've been talking, when I was prepping for this, and what I know will happen to a lot of people on the 24th. But I think if you would allow your ego to speak for a minute in the last question, you have achieved a lot, brother.

59:01You've had a lot of good things happen in your life. And there are a lot of people who will come to the 24th or are listening to the show today. There's millions of people. They're already sharing this episode all over the place. I can tell you that for sure because they're like, you need to hear this conversation. And they'd like to achieve whatever their version of their dream is, whether that's they want to be a millionaire. They want a dream relationship. They'd like to own their own home, start their own foundation. you've made a bunch of dreams come true in your life but it comes at an expense you said earlier there's a cost yeah did becoming you an academy award-winning actor everybody knows you you got some bucks people are talking about you running for president right like that's a that's not a lot of people people are going maybe he should run for president has it been what you thought it would be?

59:54And is it all it's cracked up to be? Is it worth it? Or is it just completely different than you thought?

1:00:03Well, let me answer the second part first. Is it worth it? It's got to be. I mean, it must be. For me to argue it not being worth it would be, I'd be an arrogant fool because I'm not equipped. Who am I to say worth it? It's like the difference between earn and deserve. I don't like the word deserve. Is it worth it? Yeah, it better be. It's not up to me. Now, the first question, is it what I expected? It's never. I'm big. You talk about how intentional I am. And I love writing headlines. I could probably count on one hand when I showed up and said, yeah, let's keep the headline the same. Or yeah, that's the headline of the story I wrote.

1:00:46headline always changes. It's always different. Been around it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I see how those are related. That was the general direction we headed out on. We picked our course, our North Star. But we swerved along the way. We took a few exits and we got there. We got to the same place. Not the headline that I started off thinking. Not the destination I thought it ended up at. But yeah, they're related.

1:01:16Let me tell you a little story which might answer that in a backhanded way. When I go to work with someone on a film, a director, what am I looking for? I'm looking for a similar measure of what we deem excellent and true. They're directing. They're sailing the entire ship. I'm in charge of my man, my character. I'll do this thing about in the middle of the second week where, say, we do 10 takes. And I go, okay, let's go to the monitor. Let's watch all 10 takes. I'm going to write down the three that I think. are the truest and the most excellent. And you, director, you write down what you think.

1:01:49And I'll write down second half of take two, first half of take three, first half of take four. And I won't show. And then they'll watch and they'll write theirs down. And then we swap papers. Now, if they write second half of take seven, take one and take 10, I'm like, uh-oh, we're not seeing a measure of excellence. But if they write second half of take two, first half of take three, first half of take four, I'm like, okay, I trust you going forward. We're going to have differences of opinion, but we have a similar measure of excellence. It's like a relationship. We're different, but let's have a similar moral bottom line.

1:02:25You know, find out what's our baseline we can rely on. Is it everything I thought it would be? And I didn't, I didn't, a lot of my stuff, I did not, I've done my best not to forgo. That's what I would do with JK living means with no G on the end. I've always felt like as much as I respect and I'm honored to have the career I have, I never, I always reminded myself, you were a mammal, a citizen, an American, a McConaughey before you were famous. So don't let that famous get in front of any of these things. You're right as a human or who you want to be as a man. Don't let something else that you may be overly impressed with, Matthew, get in the way of who you were before you even got here.

1:03:18So I do stress test that often. And I don't want what I do for my vocation to dictate the man I am. Have I grown? Have I evolved in it? Do I want to learn from it? Do I want to learn from other people? And I do all the time. Damn right. But not the sacrifice of what I know helped me get here and where I want to go. Does that answer your question at all? I feel like I'm sitting in a master class for like an hour with you today yeah it does and I relate to what you just said too in my way in my world in my version of it I always when someone's teaching things or saying things I always put it through my 52 year barometer of what I've experienced and I've seen whether I've validated is true and this is one of the most true conversations I've ever had on the show I'd really love it if you would come back in a year or so and we could do this again yeah i'd love to this is this is fun like i said the only trouble with this is not going four hours yeah well i want to go four hours and by the way i mean i keep saying this but i don't push a lot of things on this show someone has a book i'll say hey listen i read this book it's great but i really do think that this this event you're doing on april 24th could impact life imagine what the show's done for y 'all already everybody i mean i already i already know what's going to happen with the show it's gonna be shared everywhere because there was not a wasted second and i got the same feeling is going to happen on the 24th i just i think every part of that will be extremely valuable.

1:04:48And I love what you said. You're not getting A's in all these areas either. So you're working through these things with people as you take them through it. You got some good people. This guy, Tony Robbins knows a little bit about what he's doing. And Marie and Trent and Dean are all great friends of mine and they all make a massive difference in the world. And so do you. This is really amazing of you to take all of the success and experiences and understandings and awarenesses you've developed in your lifetime and be willing to share it with everybody, man. And today was a real blessing for me and I can't wait for the 24th.

1:05:20So thank you for today. Ed, thanks for having me. And thanks for a platform to talk about these things. I look forward, I'll come back anytime, man. Let's do it again. I got a funny feeling that there'll be another version of you, a more expanded version of you a year from now. And I'd like to tap that brain then. Hope so. Working out the riddle. Trying to work out the riddle. Trying to get A's, but at least we know how we're keeping score. Go to emliving.com, so you can get some more McConaughey in your life on the 24th. Brother, thank you. It was awesome. I appreciate it. Just keep learning, brother.

1:05:58All right, brother. God bless you, everybody. Share this episode. Max out your life. Take care. This is The Ed Milad Show.