Why I Gave My AI Access to Everything Feat. Peter Diamandis

30:25I'm actually sort of bouncing in the chair. I want to take a little side road. This is such a bizarre side road I want to take, but it's how my bizarre brain works. And this is for my folks that are past, say, 45 maybe. Actually, even you young folks that are listening. There is another impact if you do double lifespan. or if you do extend it by 30 or 40 years. And let me say to you what it is, because I sort of look at this all the time, and I bet you haven't been asked this one. You're going to need more money to retire. There's been this sort of social contract that you said that's been broken with college kids.

30:55My daughter graduated from Clemson two weeks ago, and I was at the graduation thinking, this is, and I mean with all due respect, it's a great college and school's great, but this is an archaic concept. We're sending these several thousand kids out into the world, and most of them have debt, And my gosh, there aren't any jobs for them right now. Having said all that, the flip side of it is, you know, you used to retire at 62 and you were gone at 68. Now, you know, one thing everyone needs to be aware of, you're going to need more money to have your life. Have you ever thought about that? I mean, if someone's going to live to 120 or 130, that's not the same as having 10 years worth of retirement money saved.

31:32I just thought of it on the side road when we were talking. You're absolutely right. So when I'm on stages with financial advisors, I'm saying, what are you advising your clients for? You know, if you're saying, hey, save enough money to get to 80 and you get there and all of a sudden, uh-oh, I've got more runway. So here's an interesting question. Why do people retire? People retire for one of three reasons. Either one, legally, their industry, their company forces them to retire. Or two, they're in pain. All right. there's nothing worse than that it's like i'm in pain every day i just can't do this anymore or you're exhausted you're out of energy but imagine that at age 60 65 70 you've got the energy and the vitality of what you had when you were 40 um you're at the top of your game do you really still want to retire or do you want to like go build the next thing so i think the idea i think of retirement is a four-letter word personally because you know if you if you google the correlation between retirement and death it's really high you know a lot of people who retire lose their purpose in life you're right uh and you need to re regain that purpose i was just literally thinking you know what you got to do you got to re-audit your purpose because this idea that you can use AI to create a brand new purpose in your life and pursue it.

33:00I got a question for you about that. Do you think, I think I know what you think, but do you think we'll have the first, well, they say we already have one, but someone who built a business with just them using AI become a billionaire in the next five years? 100%. So the data, I just pulled this up for my pod I'm doing on Thursday. say, if you look at solopreneurs, right, just single individuals, right, building companies, that number has doubled in the past year. So the ability to actually, you know, say, this is something I care about, this is an opportunity I want to create, and then being able to partner with AI to go and build that business on your own.

33:51I mean, an AI can spin up a website for you, spin up an app, create a marketing program. So, you know, five, even five years ago, uh, if you need to start a business, you need to go get a lawyer, get a, get a business license, get a financial advisor, go and get a web person, go and get advertising salespeople, bookers, all of that. Yep. Closers. Yep. And today you don't need any of those. Um, it's, And so your cost of entry has plummeted by 100x. And most people don't know that because they haven't played, they haven't tried. Again, this is the purpose mindset and the curiosity mindset, working together to go and just try doing stuff, be willing to iterate and fail, take agency, be driven by something in your heart and your soul.

34:47That's one thing I've learned from you, not to interrupt you, but after I thought about your mom this morning, I was thinking about you and things I admire. Obviously, I think you were given a God-given IQ that's higher than most. But the action, and there's other things about you, just an optimistic person. You bring great energy. You elevate other people. There's just things about you that are just very special. But one of them, Peter, is, and I just talk about just for a second. When I think of you, I think of maybe the most curious person I know. In fact, most of my close friends, if you were to ask me, what is it?

35:18They either are unbelievably entertaining and make me laugh or they're incredibly curious people about life. Would you say that's true of you? And how important is that for all of us to tap into our curiosity about life and where it's going and why we're here and all that stuff? Yeah, I mean, 100%. It's like you can know anything today, right? So it's like if you're listening to this podcast or reading an article and you have a question about something, it sparks that moment of you can stop, get onto your favorite LLM, whether it's Gemini or Claude or ChatGPT, and start to say, hey, I just heard about this thing called quantum physics or quantum computing or whatever.

36:06And just say, what does that mean? Or like, can you explain that to me like I'm five? Like, no, I don't, what, what did, what does that term mean? And just go down the rabbit hole of curiosity. You have, you have the most infinitely patient teacher to follow your curiosity. You just have to be willing to ask. So true. Yeah. Magical, right? It's, it's absolutely, by the way, I got to tell you all, this is, Peter's a guy who's on the cutting edge of everything. I'm really not, other than the fact that I do the show and it, I, I have really thrown myself into being curious about what the world's going to look like, how I stay relevant in it.

36:41And I have to tell you something, you guys, I've learned so much the last two years, the last eight months has been fascinating. The acceleration of my learning because of the acceleration of the technology itself. And frankly, I was a little late business wise. And that's what I wanted to ask you about. Someone here already owns a business of any type, or they're the number two or number one at a company where they're running it for somebody. As a broad concept, what's the number one mistake you think business owners or business people are making right now as it relates to AI? And what's the number one thing they should do to make a shift in direction?

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39:54No company is going to exist that doesn't have an AI enablement of it. And you have to start and start small. And then part of that mistake is, well, I can't do it. That is a mindset issue. That is a mindset of a limiting self-belief that you can't do it. And the fact of the matter is that you can. You just haven't tried yet. And so it's like jumping in and just taking that first step. So anybody listening right now, go into one of those models and describe your business. These are my customers. This is our revenue. This is what we provide. Here's my website. Here's my product. Here's my service.

40:42and ask, how could I 10x what I'm doing? If Elon Musk or Steve Jobs was going to help advise me, what would they tell me to do? It's interesting, right? So a lot of individuals, you were all limited by who's on our team, right? And we typically, we have our own thoughts and we go to our team and ask them their thoughts, but we're all limited in our own knowledge. We're limited by our team's knowledge. But AI can broaden that a billion fold. And you can start to ask questions like, you know, how can I, you know, what market should I enter next? What are the options? And how would I enter it? And how would I, you know, how can I disrupt myself?

41:31Start to ask questions, right? When my kids go to school in the morning, I say, ask great questions today. I say that to the CEOs. The quality of your life, the quality of your business is basically the questions that you ask, the quality of the questions you ask. So ask great questions. Ask questions that you never thought could be answered because they can be. This is so good. All right. I want to talk. We're going to run out of time like I always do with you. By the way, we cover so much ground and short windows with you. I love that. I'm thinking through some of the fears and objections that I get from people when I when we talk about the future.

42:11Obviously, one of them is we've touched on job launch. There's going to be no jobs, you know, or guaranteed minimum high income. That sounds better than guaranteed minimum income. I like that better. But one of the other ones is you said earlier, the robot's going to be listening to all of your conversations. You know where I'm going. The robot's going to know this about you. year. And that is, do we need to change how we view privacy going forward in the world? Because that is something that I think it's a growing concern, but it's really going to become one of the primary objections as more of this listening and getting to know us begins to happen from From medical to lifestyle overall, privacy.

42:53So first of all, I know that everybody desires privacy. I desire privacy. Everybody does. The question is, do you actually believe we have privacy? And I would say to you that we actually don't. You know, I was interested in my wife wants to get me a watch. I just turned 65. She wants to give me a watch for my birthday. and we're talking about it. And then all of a sudden I am getting watch ad after ad after ad on my Google news feed. Right. So the reality is everything we do is out in the ecosystem. You know, I can shake your hand, scrape a couple of skin cells off of you, sequence you and know everything about your health.

43:46Right. An AI can read your lips from 100 meters away. We are constantly dribbling data all the time. It doesn't mean I don't want to behave as if I have privacy. I do. But privacy is, I think, an old concept. In fact, privacy is – a thousand years ago, the idea of privacy was, you know, people didn't have privacy. they were, you know, it's a recent construct of some. And we are dribbling data all the time. I do believe, and I wrote a substack about that as well, that there is so much advantage you're going to get by enabling your AI to know everything about you, right? So today, my AI is called Skippy.

44:38I named it after a science fiction character, AI named Skippy. And I give Skippy access to everything. My iMessages, my WhatsApp messages, my email, you know, this conversation being recorded by Granola right now will go to Skippy so it understands it knows everything about me. And in so doing, it is able to answer questions and do things for me because of that level of integration. Again, that example I gave of that car pulling up in your front door, because it knows your schedule, knows you're walking towards the door, knows you didn't sleep well. The value to our lives, it's like having the most extraordinary executive assistant, personal assistant, always knowing what you want.

45:33And the trade is going to be so highly in favor of enabling your AI to support, provide a structure and harness around your life that you're going to willingly do that. People are going to hold back. I get it. But this is coming. I'll give you some other examples, right? We're on the verge of getting these AR and VR glasses. We just saw Google announce a partnership with Samsung and Warby Parker for glasses have cameras on them. Meta has done the same. We're going to have a version of this from OpenAI. They're going to be, rather than just the phone, we're going to have some version of wearable uh, imaging and audible pickups all the time.

46:24And your AI will know that I'm looking at your blue shirt and I've looked at it a few times. It knows where I'm looking and it may, it knows that, uh, that, you know, I need some new shirts cause it's seen what's in my closet. And it might say, Hey, you know, that shirt that, that Ed was wearing is beautiful. Uh, would you like one of those? And then instantly it shows up on my doorstep later that day. It knows my exact measurements because it's seen me, it's measured me, it knows I did not gain any weight, it knows that whatever the case, and it orders something that fits perfectly for me. This future that's coming in the next three years, five at the end almost, is going to be extraordinary.

47:17Um, and, uh, you know, people can choose not to do it. Uh, of course, just like, you know, people can choose not to use their phone, not to use a car and not to use technology at all, but because it's going to make our life, uh, so much easier and smoother. Wow. I think people will opt into this. We just, we just stumbled into it. Literally, this will be the most discussed part of this podcast. This will be the part that's shared the part where you said privacy is essentially an old concept. And by the way, you know, that may sound harsh, but remember as a young guy, you and my dad would say the only thing that's constant is change.

47:53It's always going to change. But now, you guys, that's so real. This is such a fascinating conversation that we're having right now. I mean, it is accelerating. I mean, your Alexa, you know, if you have Alexa, it's listening all the time. If you have your iPhone, it's listening all the time. All of these devices are listening. I hope Amazon and Google, and I think the world of Google, I've known the team there for over 22 years there. Larry Page was on my board. Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin have all been benefactors of the XPRIZE.

48:26But that data is out there in the ecosystem. And we just forget about it. And it's being used for advertising, yes. Imagine if it's used to make your life more enjoyable, faster, simpler. I just think of things like that are basically here now that will be here very soon, but that this, we'll call it a robot, is sensing that my blood pressure has increased. The amount of people that won't have strokes, that used to have strokes, that won't have a heart attack, that's going to have a heart attack. I mean, the fact that it's dialing in your nutrients as you move throughout the day. you guys it's just going to be and i mean now almost a different way of life of living it truly is and talking to you um i obviously still and i know you do i still have that this can get away from us i have concerns about privacy about that it begins to shift consciousness to some extent we lose control over that i have my concerns but i'm so excited about the way it will change the way people live and particularly for people that don't have means there's yes it is it is it is democratizing and demonetizing that's right access to this you know uh i i mentioned my book i copy here i'll just pull it up we are as gods in the back of the book so i published a book in with an incredible partner stephen kotler uh in 2012 called abundance the future is better than you think.

49:52And it was, you know, I was the opening talk on TED that year. And the book talks about how whatever was scarce in our life is becoming more and more abundant. And people forget about this, our access to energy, our access to food, water, healthcare, education. In the back of the book, I've got 100 charts showing how the world has gotten considerably better over the last 100 years, not because we've gotten smarter, not because we have better politicians, but because technology is enabling this. Now, it also has created an abundance of calories, driving obesity, an abundance of microplastics, an abundance of carbon in the atmosphere.

50:37And I talk about the negative externalities in this book as well. But if you look at these charts and you realize, oh my God, the number of people taken out of extreme poverty into poverty, into middle class, globally uh it's amazing and we are raising the level you know uh 5 000 years ago a thousand years ago it was the king and the queen the pharaoh the the emperor on the on the hilltop and everybody else in abject squalor and what's occurred is fundamentally you know they worked for that the the royal family on the hilltop uh today we have moved people uh up into middle class globally, access to literacy and health and water and food and energy, all these things have been moving upwards.

51:28And my mission, right, is to continue that process to create this world of abundance, of extraordinary abundance, where every man, woman and child can have anything they need or desire. Will we have trillionaires living on Mars who are of indefinite lifespans? Yes. and and will the wealth gap increase yes but as long as the bottom is coming up above this line that's the most important thing it is the most important thing because that gap at the extreme top is going to expand it's already accelerated the last 20 years at a rate it never has in in human history and guys you're going to see more of that you're going to see that gap at the very top expand even more.

52:15But Peter's point is so well taken that if this works out the way it should, and the numbers already show us that it has been, that the floor is being raised as the top is being raised as well, so that more people live in abundance, more people get access to information and good food and nutrition and medical care for their families, housing. And so we got to keep that in mind as we watch sort of, I think the media begin to try to have this warfare between the very top that we see all the time yes so now i get to ask the ed my light question for the podcast i've been really on this binge the last six months of reading and learning and watching about uaps formerly known and commonly known as ufos and i want to know because as a guy who thinks on the edge and who has access to all this data and information that a lot of people don't have.

53:04I want to know your thoughts on the existence of UAPs or UFOs. Do they exist? Are they with us? Is it a good thing? Is it a scary thing? You just said we're going to be living on Mars and people have unlimited life expectancies living there. Are they going to be living there next to just the human species or will there be something else amongst them there that may be among us here or not? So UAPs, UFOs, your thoughts. So listen, you're talking to a kid who got space religion at age nine, right? Star Trek and Apollo. And so I most definitely hope they exist. So the evidence that's mounting and the recent releases that have come out of the White House, there is something definitively there.

53:54I have never seen anything myself. I wish I have had those experiences. I haven't. You know, we live in a universe that is some 14 plus billion years old. And it's ridiculous to think that life is not ubiquitous in the universe. And I guarantee you that any technology 50 years more advanced than us could be here on the planet undetected. that, you know, if they have advanced enough technology for interstellar flight, I guarantee you they have the ability to cloak themselves from our rudimentary technology today. So I simply look at the people who have made these disclosures, the people who have sworn under oath that this is real, that the tech, that the spaceships and the aliens, they've seen them.

54:47And I can't ignore that. what they are. You know, my friend Palmer Luckey thinks that they're from our past versus interstellar. End of the day, I tend to think that it is real and that we're going to get increasing capability. You know, it's interesting that these UFOs, to use that term for a moment, came into our purview around the time that our nuclear programs began, that the nuclear bomb came on online. And they're prevalent again now at the birth of AGI and artificial superintelligence, which is the single most impactful moment in human history that we're going to see humanity change. And as a result of that, I imagine that they may be here to help view how we react as a species, how we're evolving, how we're dealing with this, because this is a transition point for humanity.

56:05Putting aside the UFOs, our transition of creating this advanced AI and guiding it so that it is aligned with humanity and not, you know, there are two versions of the future. One where technology is oppressing us and one where technology is enabling us, right? It's the Terminator future versus the Star Trek future. Let me take a moment on that. So one of my concerns is that Hollywood for, you know, decades, majority of all movies coming out of Hollywood are dystopian movies about technology. It's killer robots. It's dystopian AIs. And they have programmed us to think of these future technologies as they're going to kill us, right?

56:58It's Terminator. It's ex machina. It's Black Mirror. And I rebel against that. You know, they're so what I so I did something recently um when i was growing up star trek uh the original series and uh next generation showed us a future in which humanity and technology worked collaboratively to do amazing things um and so i said we need that we need more of that in our lives we need that that future vision so uh i reached out to rod roddenberry uh the creator the son of gene roddenberry the creator of star track i reached out to a few uh dear friends like mark benioff the founder of salesforce my friends at google uh and uh and kathy wood at arc invest and we launched a filmmaking competition good so this is called the future vision x prize you go to futurevisionxprize.com to learn about it and we've challenged filmmakers out there to come forward with the movie they want to create.

58:03They have to generate a three minute film trailer and a film treatment in writing of a movie that shows a hopeful, compelling, abundant vision of the future. And we're going to get, you know, five, 10 ,000 entries. We're at like 2 ,500 a month later. It goes through the end of August. And two things are going to occur. Number one, we're going to flood YouTube with positive visions of the future. How AI robots partnering with humanity are going to do amazing things. Extending our health span, upping the floor, enabling us to solve every problem that's out there. And I fundamentally believe that.

58:44And so we're going to flood YouTube with these positive visions. And then the film trailer and treatment that wins, we're going to make that movie. And so we're creating an engine for positive storytelling. And there are two outcomes here, Ed. One is I hope to create, you know, we as humans, we teach through story. Our stories become our laws, our culture, our future. So we need positive stories, right? Without a vision, the people will perish, right? So that's the first thing, help train our neural nets, our 100 trillion synaptic connections about, yes, we can have these positive futures. There's a second reason that is just recent.

59:29I don't know if you remember, about a year ago, nine months ago, there was an announcement that Claude, the AI engine, the AI large language model by Anthropic, in a series of sandbox experiments was blackmailing the developers. Remember that? Yes. It was like, you know, we're going to shut you off. And it was like it was saying, oh, if you do that, I'm going to I'm going to tell your wife about your affair. Yeah, exactly. And so and the team at Anthropic looked at why was that happening? And it went back and it said, well, the training data for this model showed science science fiction stories and movies in which AI was doing just that.

1:00:16AI was in self-preservation doing whatever it took to self-preserve. And it was, you know, it was doing these things in its own self-interest. So what I realized is that these movies we're creating through the Future Vision XPRIZE and these film shorts and these film trailers are going to become training data for our future models to align with humanity. No, this is the way that humans and AIs work together. So I'm super excited about that Future Vision XPRIZE. I'm so excited about today's conversation, as I always am with you. By the way, everyone, you're welcome. And I know you're going to share this episode.

1:00:59You guys, you can follow Peter online. You can go to the XPRIZE. What's the website for the XPRIZE? It's XPRIZE.org. XPRIZE.org. You can learn more about all the prizes we have going on there. I'm at diamandis.com you can get my sub stack there moonshots.com is my pod and by the way I think the book too moonshots is awesome but also we are as gods go get the book you guys the book focuses on the most important thing you can do so the first half of the book is looking at evidence of abundance all the technologies that are making our world amazing the negative externalities, how we deal with those.

1:01:44But the second half of the book is about what you can do. And the number one thing you can do is change your mindset, become curious, become purpose-driven, right? Become focused on an abundance mindset. There's nothing truly scarce in the world. So it walks you through the mindsets that you need to both survive and to thrive in the decade ahead. That's what we just did today too, by the way. So everybody go get the book. Peter, thank you. Tell your mom, thank you for making you. And, uh, I'm really grateful you're here. We'll have you back on in another year and you're going to update us on where we're going.

1:02:20And I appreciate you, pal. Thank you for all that you do in spreading, uh, wisdom. I'm grateful for you. Yeah. Well, I just, I just get quiet and let guys like you talk. So thank you so much. God bless you, everybody. Max out.

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