In short
How to focus and monetize by subtracting distractions, choosing the right channels, and committing to tradeoffs; includes advice for ADHD and for relationships while building a “best life.”
Guests
Leila Hormozi (business/creator operator; discusses lead flow, attribution, and monetization across social platforms). Other voices include Greg (co-host) and Alex (Leila’s partner; met on Bumble).
Key claims
Bet on YouTube and Instagram for discovery-to-purchase ROI; Instagram sends more traffic, but YouTube converts 3–4x better. Podcasts/emails are middle-funnel; discover via repurposed YouTube. Focus is “subtraction, not addition”: remove competing stimuli. Commitment eliminates alternatives; relationships require tradeoffs (“not convenient”).
Notable examples
TikTok monetization improves by routing traffic to Instagram DMs. ADHD example: a “black dot” in an otherwise blank room captures attention; reduce environmental stimuli and start tasks sooner.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMaximizing Social Media ROI
0:45 to 2:15
Discussion on the effectiveness of various social media platforms for generating leads.
“But YouTube traffic converts at like three or four times the percentage.”
The Story of How They Met
2:15 to 3:21
A light-hearted recount of how Alex and Leila met on a dating app.
“I don't know if you've heard about it, but it's a dating app.”
Balancing Relationships and Personal Goals
3:21 to 5:30
Leila discusses the challenges of maintaining relationships while pursuing personal ambitions.
“And then once you had the food, I think you were much friendlier.”
Strategies for Focus and Productivity
5:30 to 9:45
Alex shares insights on dealing with ADHD and improving focus through environmental control.
“It's like it's not going to be convenient.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00What is your highest ROI or best social media channels right now? Between the ones that you're working on? YouTube. YouTube? All right, that's number one. Yeah, I would say probably YouTube and Instagram. Mm-hmm. What about you? I would also agree that YouTube and Instagram are my number one and number two. Yeah. And yeah, that goes for everybody. I actually did a huge video that broke down all of our lead flow and where it came from. Did you really? Yeah. Did it get good views? Crushed. Someone should link it there. Oh, my God. And so I think the way to think about it, and I ranked them kind of S-tiered or whatever, but it was like, how much discoverability is there?
0:39How easy is it to generate kind of purchase intent? So like cost to action. And so I'll tell you something that we found from school is that Instagram generates significantly more traffic than YouTube does. But YouTube traffic converts at like three or four times the percentage. And so YouTube is still, for most, because a lot of people who are on school who have communities have some content of some sort. And again, to be clear, some people have like a thousand followers. You don't need a lot. You just need something. And so the people who have it, they track work because we can see attribution.
1:07YouTube is making them more money, even though Instagram sends more traffic. But the first one and two for most people are going to be those buckets. We have seen that people do well at monetizing TikTok if they send the traffic to Instagram. Don't tell me, don't ask me why, but that's literally the CTA that they'll have inside other bio. So just a tactical hack for you. If you have trouble monetizing your TikTok, make the CTA like DM me on IG. And then that enters like the Instagram world. And for whatever reason, people are way more likely to do commerce and transact on Instagram, especially for more expensive stuff.
1:39Now, that being said, you've got podcasts, you've got emails, things like that. Those are what I would consider middle of funnel. People don't really get discovered. Like no one's like, I just found this new email newsletter. That doesn't really happen. It's follow-up. And podcasts, honestly, nowadays, very tough to get discovered via podcast. More realistically, you repurpose your YouTube content as podcast material, and people discover your podcast through your YouTube content. So if I had two platforms I would bet on, it would be YouTube and Instagram in terms of monetization. And I've just seen that across creators.
2:12Nice. How did you guys meet? Real Greg. There you go. That's my question? Yeah. We met on Bumble, Greg. I don't know if you've heard about it, but it's a dating app. And Alex had, I think his profile was like. I looked sick. It's a Ford Jim's working out whiskey. Cheap bourbon, expensive steaks. Expensive steaks. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Something cheesy. And then you had a picture of you. She says as it converted her. And then you had a picture of yourself from college in the water from spring break. guess my she says that i was 25 college was not like that long ago i know but when i met you i was like you don't look the same i was bigger uh and then we met for froyo for our first date and i think alex wrote me off immediately because i have a back tat i did and he saw it which by the way i got when i was like 18 and drunk and high so sorry but yeah it was tough uh then you immediately were like rude to me not rude but you just were very trying to get the date over with Neutral.
3:17And then we sat down and started talking. Then you warmed up. And then I realized that you needed to eat. And that was part of it. And then once you had the food, I think you were much friendlier. Nothing like sprinkles to cheer the day out. All right. I'm going to ask you a follow-up that's business related. Me? Yeah. Okay. What do you want to ask me? Okay. Give tips on how to get into a relationship when you're working to get to your best life. Like start a business and risk stuff. I know what that means. Crazy Chris. I think it's funny when people say I want to have my best life as if a relationship is not part of your best life.
3:46I find that ironic because like we, for example, have like built our lives together. I think it depends on what kind of relationship you want, but in general, people are like, well, it's just really hard. I don't have time. I'm like, well, what do you think it's like when you're in a relationship? Even less time. It's even less time. It's tough. Yeah, it's interesting. It's tough out there. It's tough out there. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think there's one thing that you said to me last night, actually, was you were talking about somebody. What? It's not convenient. Yeah, it's not convenient.
4:17And I think that's the thing is just like right now, we have this big societal narrative that everyone should maximize all options. And so it's all about freedom and independence and like - Like maximum efficiency. Yeah, don't let anything tie you down, all that kind of stuff. But the thing is, I think it's about having options so that you can make a selection. The goal is not to always maximize options because at some point you need to decide. And so the easiest way that I can think about this is like, let's say you're like i want to maximize the options of where i live right and so as a result you'll not have a home anywhere because you're like well i want to be able to do the mountains and i want to be able to do the valleys and i want to be able to the desert and i also want to be able to do the snow and the thing is is like there is no location that does all those things right unless you're in the dubai mall but but the the idea follows which is that like in order to reap some of the rewards you do need to pick and when you pick we define commitment as the elimination of alternatives, which means that if you're like, you said differently, you cannot have a lifelong partner and then also have ultimate optionality.
5:18If ultimate optionality is the thing that is more important to you, then you will not have a lifelong partner. And that's the choice. And to be clear, I don't think either of us are saying there's anything wrong with that. Just know the trade you're making. Yeah. It's not convenient. I mean, it's like pursuing anything in life. It's like it's not going to be convenient. And is it worth the trade? Yeah. Aiden Watson, I'm going to go definitively yes for pineapple on pizza, preferably pineapples and jalapeno. And I speak, I speak very, very aggressively about that. I like ranch with pizza. Yeah.
5:47Cause you're ranch, ranch and mac and cheese on the inside. Okay. I like pineapple too, but I like ranch and pineapple rather than jalapeno and pineapple. Jalapeno is spicy, spicy in, spicy out. Okay. So juice. Everyone knows that's true. Jesus what do we am I asking I asked you so you asked me one he's like I'm gonna ignore that we don't talk like this on my channel I don't care pick one me okay two years super fan at 19 I've consumed all your content thousands of cold calls pushing seven figures how do I get in a personal relationship with both of you didn't expect that one that took a twist sorry about that I would have ignored that one had I read the whole thing get to 50 million that's not even true I know it's not even true I don't know I don't know to be honest with you man actually there is a way which is like if we have a role and you're like I want to spend five years learning and lead something you can apply for a role at ACQ that's actually the way we're with our team most of the time yeah oh my god by a lot I mean we have like like 18 exits on the team We have a lot of people who started business, founded businesses, sold them, and then joined our team.
7:03So, yeah. All right, I'm going to ask you one last question. Oh, one last. That's going to be good. Okay. I recently got diagnosed with ADHD, and I suppose it explains a lot of the inaction I've always had. Should I just try to take meds for it, or is that cheating, or should I just try to use willpower for more discipline? Or should you give me this one? Well, what have people told you? Oh, my God. How many times have you been diagnosed with something? Well, diagnosed or people selling Alex and ADD as fuck? So I'll tell you a speech that I gave to someone that I cared about deeply who let ADD, ADHD, and other letters, I think, ruin their lives.
7:48And so when I had the conversation with this individual, I said, what you see as a handicap, I see as a superpower. It's all how we frame it. Somebody who has ADHD or ADD typically has a harder time abandoning tasks and can focus on one thing for extended periods of time. The issue is that when that happens, it's like everything else disappears. The idea that you have something or don't have something, Medicaid, don't Medicaid, I'm not a doctor, listen to your own whatever legal disclaimer we'll put below here. But at the end of the day, shit needs to get done. and most of the time you have other things in your environment that are more interesting to you than the thing, the task at hand.
8:30And so I will explain how I work and different people work in different ways. What has worked well for me as somebody who's very easily distracted is that I remove all stimulus from the entire, from the environment. And so let me give you an extreme example. If I were locked into a room that had no corners, all white, everywhere around, and there was nothing but a single black dot on the wall. What becomes the most interesting thing that gathers all my attention? The black dot. And so there's probably a black dot in the room that you are right now watching this, but you haven't noticed the black dot because there are other things that are competing for your attention.
9:06And so in order to focus, focus is through subtraction, not addition. There is no productivity hack that works. The only one is by removing everything else that removes productivity. And so somebody who is fully focused does literally nothing but the work. And the best way to make sure that you do nothing but the work is to make sure there's nothing else to do but the work. And so fundamentally, I think for you, you would get a larger lift in your throughput or your work capacity by removing everything else that you do that is not what you intend to do. And that is my productivity hack for you.
9:43So whether you want to medicate yourself or not, that's your call. I don't think it's going to change much. I'll say it differently. There's a lot of people I know who take Adderall who still can't get shit done. So I don't think it's going to be like, you'll probably benefit more from just exercising and limiting the stimuli in your work environment so that you have minimal disruptions. And I think what you need to do is you need to confront the work. The reality is that most times it takes significantly less time to accomplish a task than you think it does once you begin. but you delay longer from beginning the task than the entire task takes in totality.
10:20And so this is the classic, it takes 20 hours to become proficient at almost any skill. It's just that people delay the first 20 hours by a decade. You just keep waiting for some perfect environment that's never going to end. That was a great answer. Thank you. I appreciate that, my love. Shall we wrap? We shall wrap.
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00:00 Top ROI platforms: YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok
02:13 How Alex and Leila met
03:28 Balancing between business and a relationship
06:15 How to make cold calls and push through to seven figures
07:10 ADHD productivity hack: Focus through subtraction, not addition
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