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Podcast Summary: Mastering Personal Branding and Content Strategy | Ep 766
Episode Overview In this episode of "The Game with Alex Hormozi," Alex discusses his experiences and insights on personal branding and content strategy, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, targeted messaging, and the effective use of content in business.
Key Themes
- Defining Personal Branding
- Personal Brand Definition:
- Curating associations and ideals.
- It's about choosing what to associate with, and what to avoid.
- Importance:
- Avoiding associations with people or things you dislike is crucial.
- Branding should be seen as a process of pruning and refining.
- Authenticity vs. Imposter Syndrome
- Avoiding the Imposter Syndrome:
- Many feel like imposters because they portray themselves as something they are not.
- Being authentic and stating facts eliminates the feeling of being an imposter.
- Content Strategy
- Do Shit, Talk About It:
- Action precedes content; doing meaningful work leads to compelling stories.
- Education vs. Entertainment:
- While entertaining content garners views, educational content drives engagement.
- Content should focus on delivering value rather than chasing vanity metrics.
- Niche Content
- Narrowing Down:
- Focusing on niche content can yield better business results than broadening content subjects.
- Real-World Examples:
- Discussed success stories of individuals with small followings achieving significant business results.
- Proof as a Content Element
- Importance of Proof:
- Content must provide proof of expertise or results to earn trust from the audience.
- Types of Proof:
- Visual proof (demonstrating work/results) is more compelling than descriptive claims.
- Content Creation Process
- Maker vs. Manager Time:
- 'Maker time' refers to focused periods for creative output, while 'manager time' involves decision-making and meetings.
- Four Hours a Day for Content:
- Spending four hours daily on content creation can significantly impact business visibility.
- Overcoming Delay in Action
- Long-Term Thinking:
- The ability to delay short-term rewards is critical for long-term success.
- Addressing Age-Related Concerns:
- It's never too late to start; the focus should be on continuous improvement and learning.
- Effective Calls to Action (CTAs)
- Placement and Value:
- CTAs should be strategically placed within content (around 30% through) and should flow naturally.
- Value Proposition:
- To encourage action, content must provide sufficient value before introducing CTAs.
Key Takeaways
- Personal branding is about conscious choices regarding associations.
- Authenticity eliminates feelings of being an imposter; state facts and truth.
- Focus on providing education and proof in content rather than just entertainment.
- A niche approach can yield better business outcomes than broad content strategies.
- Establish structured maker time for focused content creation.
- Continuous action and improvement are essential, regardless of age or previous experience.
- CTAs should feel organic and relevant to the content, backed by substantial value.
Conclusion This episode emphasizes that building a personal brand and effective content strategy takes time, effort, and authenticity. By focusing on niche content, providing proof of expertise, and effectively utilizing maker time, individuals can significantly enhance their branding and business outcomes.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00And so dude, thank you so much for being here. I don't know if you know this, bro, but I've been trying to make this moment happen for three and a half years. And I call it pleasantly persistent, but I just keep asking, man. So, thank you for making it happen. Thank you for pleasantly being persistent. Yeah, man. Yeah, thank you. I did it for you, bro. It's for you. Yes, sir. So, here's the deal. Is your chair shaking right now, bro? Or is that me? I think it's the walking. Oh, okay. I got it. I was like, dude, is something wrong with me? All right. So in the past 40 months, Alex, you talked about you build a 7.8 million fan audience across all these platforms, 2 billion impressions, 35 ,000 pieces of content.
0:45You spent$4 million across that time period. And I was thinking that the thing we could do to bring the most impact today is everybody here wants to build a powerful personal brand. They want to grow their business. And can you first, before we get into all the tactics, we have so many things to share with you guys today, but can you first define personal brand and why you think it's so important for everyone? So I think personal brand is just the things that you choose to associate with. And so you have ideals, some sort of business that you want to associate with, people that you want to associate with.
1:19And it's just curating the things that just as much what you want to be seen and thought of with as much as what you don't. And I think one of the big things that happens early on is we want to say yes to everything, which is kind of tough because sometimes you're like, I don't really like this person that is asking me to be on their podcast. It's like, well, everyone's going to associate you whether you like it or not. And so fundamentally, like brain doesn't see in negatives. It only sees in positives. As I say, don't think about a pink elephant. We all still think about pink elephants, right?
1:47And so you can't like unbrand. You can only positively pair things. You can't dis-pair. And so it's really by avoiding things, kind of like pruning a garden, that you can make a really nice brand. So a lot of branding is about choosing everything you're not going to associate with and then seeing what's left. And then that becomes the brand that becomes purer and stronger. And so I think, especially as everyone here, what I would dissuade you from doing is, one, talking about things that you haven't done or pretending to. And that's like 95 % of people here. Not you. everyone else.
2:26And the other, so one is pretending to be something that you're not. Because that's when a lot of people are like, man, I have imposter syndrome. It's like, you have imposter syndrome because you're lying. You're pretending to be something that you're not. If you don't pretend to be something you're not, if you state the facts, you tell the truth, there's nothing to feel like you're an imposter about. If you made$5 ,000 and you made this many mortgage sales, that's what happened. Someone can hate you or love you, but you stated the facts and told the truth. And so I think that has always been our North Star for everything we do.
2:51And if that's not compelling, then make the truth more compelling. Like do more shit. And then when you talk about it, people will be like, wow, he made 35 ,000 pieces of content. Okay, then maybe I'll listen to it because of that work, independent of whatever output happened. So if I had zero people who followed me, well, you'd be like, I know how to post 35 ,000 pieces of content and get zero followers. Let me tell you how that works. Like it'd be still interesting, right? Be like, here's all the things not to do. Yeah. And so you even said this at a presentation years ago, I remember you wrote, you're like, man, this is my big strategy.
3:22Do shit, talk about it. Do bigger shit, talk about it. It was like very simple. It was just like do the thing and then talk about it. And so, one of the things that I think when we get into content strategy that people struggle with is education or entertainment or edutainment as you called it. And I look at like all of us look up to these accounts on social media that have the biggest followings and they're entertainers. Yeah. And I feel like we look to them for content strategy. Yeah. I don't think that's a good plan for people in the industry who want to grow their brand. Yeah. So I didn't know.
3:59And so I'll very much like, let's see. And so we widened our scope in terms of our content with the intention of... Or at least the theory behind it being, if we got more people to see our stuff, then if we catch with a bigger net, then there's still going to be more in absolute. So relatively fewer people in the audience are going to be business owners for me. But a larger absolute amount will be business owners if I go wider. And that wasn't the case. And so after we did that for I think it was like three or four months, we just kind of went pretty wide with the content. I made a college video.
4:29I made a relationship video. I made a handful of videos on like philosophy stuff that I'm into. And what happened was the actual objective metrics of the business, our opt-ins went down, book sales went down, but we got more views and more subscribers. And so it's really, really tempting to start getting into the vanity metrics of views, subscribers, followers, whatever. But I never did this to get famous. I did this to get richer, to be very clear. And I always like to be very transparent about that. And so making content has always been a means to an end. And so if you're in business and you're making content for the means to an end, which is like you want to be able to price in more premium, you want to convert at a higher percentage, you want to be able to get free customers inbound, all those things are benefits that come downstream from building that personal brand, which is really just the pairings and associations that your ideal avatar finds positive.
5:24And since the thing is, when I... I told the story, but I had a business owner friend of mine, does about a million a month. smaller business and he came in and he was talking to me he was like yeah um offhandedly it's like you know yeah i stopped listening to your stuff a few months ago and i've been listening to it for like five years um i said he's like i guess i'm just not really your avatar and i just like you know it's like dude you 100 are my avatar and uh and that's when i just i went down to the team i was like we need to change it all like we have to just talk about business and so back to business became the whole theme and if for those you have seen my content that's that's what we focused on What was the result of making that change?
6:01Yeah. So once we went back to business, my average views for video dropped in half. But as a result, we didn't have to have nearly as heavily produced stuff. And so it's very much just like me talking to the camera, me with a whiteboard, whatever. And we got more opt-ins on the site, more book sales, which are the 2 leading indicators for me downstream for portfolios. And yeah. And for me personally, I like business. That's all I like talking about. So me talking about other stuff is actually like not fun. I have to like get Amp to do a Mosey Meals thing. And I'm like, who cares? It's lunch. You know, they're like, they want to know.
6:37And I'm like, I don't think they do, man. And so it was a good experiment. But I will tell you, I think the algorithm is getting so good at serving niche content to people who consume niche content that you have to be okay with something that has, you know, 19 views. I'm being dead serious about it. Like I've had so many businesses just in the last couple months that I've spoken with that. I talked to an art dealer that's doing a million dollars a year with a 1 ,500 person email list. I talked to a person who's super niched down and registered dietitian who helps people bill... Registered dietitians bill insurance more accurately.
7:11That's her business. Talk about a niche of a niche of a niche. And she has 5 ,800 followers. And she told me she made her first sale when she had 8 people on her email list. 8. I was like, is it a list at that point? Or do you just email 8 people? You know what I mean? Yeah. It's Outlook. Yeah, right. I was like, you just emailed friends, right? Yeah. But she was doing just under a million bucks a year with 50. And I looked at her reach on her account and it was like$2 ,800. Wow. But if you're a registered dietitian and you want to make an extra$100 ,000 a year by billing insurance under all these different codes, you buy her thing.
7:45And so I give the example that I consume a lot of niche gym manufacturing content. And so I like welders, metal fabs, it doesn't matter. But it's like really niche gym content. And so these guys are terrible marketers. But they show their pieces of equipment. And so my newsfeed is just like comedians and metal fab shops. And they don't... They're not like the viral cool ones. They're just like, Hey, we made a new row. Look at how it works. And then they do it. And so I say that because that guy has somebody in his ear saying, You should be making stuff about like, you know, whatever viral meme stuff is.
8:21that are falling out of a cliff or trying punching a stranger or whatever. You know what I mean? Like ask 10 gym owners how many pieces of equipment they want, whatever. But it's not that. They just make sure that the content that you have is the association you want people to have with you. And so I don't think the whole going really wide is the idea. If you want to get views, which the thing is, is like if you listen to Jim, Mr. Beast, and some of the other guys, their primary revenue stream is ad revenue. And so that's how they make money. but and they're brilliant don't get like they're brilliant at it but if you're trying to have a niche which most businesses do then make if you make more content about the stuff that your particular customer likes they will like you and if you make it about stuff that they don't like or care about they won't like or care about you period and so i just say like just don't fall into the trap of the vanity metrics and like it's hard because you want to see that now the way that we controlled this because I like having paired metrics with any business.
9:21It's like you have speed and you've got quality, right? Just as an example, like you want to go as fast as you can, but you also want to make sure the quality is there. So once you know that you're getting the right people who are consuming your stuff because you're making the right content, then at that point, then you jam the views by all means. But you just have some sort of metric. So for us, it's like we want to make sure that our CPMs on our views are really high because I know business owners are very expensive. So it's like, okay, if they're really high, that I'm getting the right eyeballs.
9:48And if that's true, then I absolutely would love more subscribers that are business owners. But that has to be true first. And so having something, whether it's the opt-ins, your applications, book calls, just site visits, whatever... Well, site visits is tough. But something that you can track that gives you some sort of quality metric on the traffic that you have, then you can use all of that gusto of like, now I'm going to go get views and stuff. But I've got this control here to make sure it's the right views yeah and i noticed um one thing or just a side note real quick if you ever want to know how rich someone is it's based on how they refer to mr beast so alex said jim if you ever hear someone say jim for mr beast they're rich as fuck okay like that's it because i don't even know mr beast's name bro you know what i mean like okay so just side note cool all right so one of the things i noticed though, when you start your videos, and I feel like we, you know, like you'll say to people that the viewer is watching social media and they're saying, why should I watch you?
10:53Right? So we're trying to educate people. And some of us have done things. Some of us haven't done things. Maybe people in this room have been doing real estate for 20 years. Somebody else in this room has done it for two. I talked to a lady yesterday. She just got her license. Okay. So just everyone's on a different path. But when you're talking about this, like, do you think that everybody should insert that frame into the beginning of their video like why they should stick around if you're going to be educating something because i noticed you do this on almost every video yeah so on youtube for yeah so if you're doing longer form stuff then we we can we looked at so i'm a big i'm like you said spreadsheet thing like i just look at the data and then i see okay what stuff worked let me do more of that what stuff didn't work let me do less of that and so when i looked at the top 100 or whatever youtube videos i had the ones that were top 10 all had proof promise plan all embedded into them.
11:41And so that has been our little mental easy framework. Like what's the promise? What's the proof that you can deliver on that promise? And then, okay, now I'll listen to your plan. Here's the layout for the video. Here's the roadmap. Here's the framework. And so that's been our kind of like three Ps. But if I had to weight them, proof is number one. And so the reason that not to get into like high YouTube, but a lot of the high-end creators like Mr. Beast. There you go. Yes. Mr. Beast and those guys, is they talk about confirming the thumbnail as soon as humanly possible. And what they mean by that is that when someone clicks, they want to know that what they clicked on is exactly the thing that they wanted.
12:18And so the way that you do that is make it as congruent as humanly possible in multiple ways. So based on what the headline is versus what the person says in the first few seconds, also what they see, what they hear, you want to have multiple different ways of confirming the thumb as fast as possible. And so the thing is, in entertainment, if I say, hey, I'm going to go smash this Lamborghini and toss it off a cliff, then as soon as you start the video, you want to show the cliff, the Lamborghini and say, this is what I'm going to do. And you want to say that as fast as possible. So they're like, oh, this isn't some clickbait, whatever.
12:46This is what this guy's going to do. In education, how do you approximate that they're going to get what they want to get? It's different. I can't show you the result. I have to give you proof that I can help you. and that's at least how i think about it i think of proof proof is an approximation of the likelihood that they're going to get what they click to see and so if i if if you click a video that says like the best investment advice in the world and then the first five seconds it's like my name is warren buffett and i own berkshire hathaway and it's looking for 94 years to be worth 100 billion dollars here's eight things you probably want to consider you're like okay i'll listen if you're like hey you know i'm a teacher and i will give you great investing advice it's like well you can't be that good.
13:30Yeah. Right. So there's this big obvious. It's like the big obvious is almost is the problem 99 % of the time. A lot of like, a lot of people who are making content are looking for like 100 little hacks. But like, it's just the big obvious thing. Like I'm not, I'm not delusioned or disillusioned by the fact that I get a disproportionate amount of attention because what I have done. Not because what I'm saying is necessarily novel. And so like, Gym Secrets was a podcast that was around before I sold Gym Launch. And none of y 'all listened to it. And it was fire. But it was only after we sold Gym Launch that people were like, oh shit, he knows what he's talking about.
14:12Okay, now I'll listen. Right? And so obviously, the stuff has to be good. But the frame in which people consume content is the messenger. The messenger is inextricably linked with what they are consuming, with the message itself. And so I think not enough people are paying attention to who they are and what they have done when they are claiming that they can help someone and trying to focus way too much on the stuff being said. Gary's here, I think they're doing what,$350,$400 million a year in Vayner, right? But if he didn't imagine to erase that and then everything else is the same, no one cares.
14:53He's just a dude talking about social media. How do you know? How do you know that what he's saying is true? He has no proof. And so I wrote this down the other day. I didn't write this down. Excuse me. I yelled it at someone. I was trying to make myself sound better. Proof, motherfuckers. Proof. That's what matters. If you get one thing out of all the stuff that I have to say here, it's proof. So I'll tell you a quick story because I think it'll be relevant. So I recently did a big review. This will be a common theme, by the way, is that I just look at a bunch of data and then I'm like, let me see if I can find two interesting things.
15:28And so I looked at 2 ,000 ads that Jim Launch had run over four or five years because I was helping their marketing team with something. And of the top 50 ads, 40 of them were not me. It was just proof. That's all it was. Proof. 10 of them were educational, which I see as an approximation of proof. If you're very good, people are like, oh, wow, he knows more than me. That's pretty smart. Okay. He must know. So then you have to... Basically, someone has to reason that you're good versus just showing them that you're good. And so with that, what's interesting is that of the 2000 ads, 80 % of them aren't proof.
16:09Just 80 % of the top 50 are. So what should I be doing? more fucking proof ads yeah right and then the question after that is like okay well there's not like oh i have proof because that's the next thing i would hear from the audience like alex i have proof and no one believes me no shit you have terrible proof right and so proof exists on a continuum so you have on one end so let's say i'm selling teeth widening just as a as a hypothetical extreme if i have yellow teeth and i swish this stuff around and i spit it out right now in front of Neil, not at Neil, in front of Neil. And he looks at my teeth and they zoom in the camera.
16:45You'd be like, holy shit, this stuff works. The next question you have is, is it permanent? Will it damage my teeth? How long will it last? Whatever. Those are buying questions. But the likelihood that it works is no longer a question in your mind. And so that's an extreme version of proof. That's live, in-person, raw, unedited. And there's a big checklist of proof that we have. But that's this extreme. On the other extreme, now, and if I were, let's say, if you're an Asian girl, if you're an Asian girl, and I'm an Asian girl, then you'll believe it more. Right? If you're a black guy, you might not believe it as much, whatever.
17:19The more relevant you can make the avatar who's getting the experience, it becomes more analogous for them. They say, oh, that person looks just like me. Therefore, I can take that experience and say it would also happen for me, which is fundamentally why we have different avatars when you're trying to show proof. And this is like customer success stories for us seem to be doing the best. So it's the proof. Yeah. And on this extreme, the worst one would be something that's instead of visual, it's descriptive. So instead of showing you the teeth, it talks about the experience. And it would be not visual at all.
17:51So it's not video, it's text. And it's of a person that is not like the person who's reading it. And it's five years old. Right? And so it's like, these are degrees of proof. And so if you give yourself a proof audit, which is... I had an ad. I remember a few years ago, it was one of the top ads. I just made a post in my community of gym owners. I just said, how much extra money have you made since you've been here? I was like, just answer. And then all I did was I recorded my screen and I just scrolled. And it was 5 minutes of scrolling. That was the ad. And it crushed. Made me a lot of money.
18:24Wow. Yeah. It's just like... I noticed when we share customer success stories, if it's one thing, would you just say it? That's better than nothing. But when we show it, so for in the real estate niche or in the mortgage niche, when we show the real numbers that somebody saved or that we show the result we got our clients, it seems to work really well. And so I would encourage everyone here to just really double down on that. And I've always been wondering why it works so well. And Alex just explained it perfectly. So that was a great analogy. So one thing I wanted to clarify for everyone here is you talk a lot about content strategy and then a lot of it relates to youtube but then a lot of you do a ton of short form as well which do you like for someone building their personal brand where should they start where should they double down or is it all of the things you know like where should they kind of focus so i think it's helpful to think like okay what is advertising advertising is just letting people know about your stuff and so as many ways as you can let as many people as possible know about your stuff great so then it comes down to return on resources so So if, because like take it to the natural extreme, if you only did shorts and you were amazing at them, you would make a lot of money.
19:31If you only did longs and were amazing at them, you'd make a lot of money. So it's not which one is it? It then comes down to the person of what's my return on effort. You may be better naturally or have some head start in one of these two directions. Or you might not have the resources right now to make good enough long form videos that you get stuff. Maybe shorts a little easier for you. Then in that case, if you look at this much effort that I'm going to be putting in, And then you do have an absolute A, B answer of like, no, shorts is what I should do because given these resources, I'll get a higher return on it.
20:00And so that's very much between your resources and your skill sets. But we started with shorts because I could put out more of them and I did them once every 90 days. So a team would fly out. I would sit there. I'd record 100 in one sitting. And then that was it. And then I would go back to work. And then people will watch them and have to make more. And then, yeah. So that's how many of us discovered you is through the shorts. And then we found your long form and all that stuff. But I think people don't have that budget, that big budget to get started. Or maybe they do. I mean time budget too.
20:33Time budget. Yeah, when I see resources. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, same thing. But I noticed when I recently attended one of your workshops, business workshops, and we talked about finding the constraint in your business. And for people who are trying to build their personal brand, their constraint may be content distribution or it might be editing or might be you know getting this stuff out there and i feel like like we make investments everywhere else but and we know that content works and we know that doing more content would work but we don't do it and you know why is it that like we spend resources and money and time on the shit that doesn't like i even got this realization sitting in the workshop like what the fuck am i doing bro like there's something that works why am i not doing more of that and then i'm wasting my time over here is it like are we all like do we have like an internal defect like that makes us go this way no i think it's i think it's it's short-term reward that's it like fundamentally like if you can delay reward if you can actually just work without needing to see some sort of cookie immediately you can beat everybody like it's and it's not even like you have to wait that long you just got to be able to wait longer than most people and most people can't wait ever at all and so to to neil's point one of the what issues is especially within the entrepreneurial community, is that we're rewarded very early on in our careers for switching.
21:52You were in a career that you hated. You were in a job they didn't like. You were in some circumstance and you decided to start a business. And so you changed. You took a massive action. You changed your conditions, right? And then you got rewarded for that. And the problem is that you need to do that once and then never do it again. Because once you're in now, it's like you've made the big change. Now the big change is inside that you have to make, which is you have to learn to persist. And a lot of that looks like facing the unknown and having no idea what you're going to do and taking steps anyways, under the faith that with each step, you will learn a little bit more and get a little bit better.
22:26And you'll be able to see one step ahead. And that's all it is. And that has not changed in my entire entrepreneurial career. People ask me what my five-year plans are. I'm like, I don't know because five years from now, I have so many options I can't see. But I know that today I need to do this. And it's the same thing I had to do yesterday. And I will keep doing it until we get to this point because then that will open up other options. Yeah. And so finding that problem and focusing on it, it may not be the most fun thing is what I found. It's going to be really hard to find that person. We haven't tried.
22:57We've gone through people. It didn't work. And we've had to fire people and bring them back and do all these things. And then that part though is where we're going to see the most growth. It's the difficult shit that nobody talks about. Yeah. Most of the solutions that are required to grow a business are not novel, interesting, or fun. It's like, okay. So I'll give you an example. We bought a company. It's a big chain. It has 30-something locations. And so we're like, okay. So we spent four hours redesigning the sales process at 5X LTV. And I was like, all right, roll it out. Retrain the entire staff across all the companies or all the locations.
23:37They're like, that's going to take like six months. And I was like, yep, we're not gonna do anything else that's it that's all we're gonna do but what about what about content what about ads it was like why would we care about any of that like we if we 5x ltv with this new sales process that is all that matters in terms of all the resources we have is there anything else that's going to 5x this business in the next six months no then go away shush like just do that and so a lot of you guys have all of these go away shush ideas that you need to tell yourself like go away shush like i don't need to do that like if you have 10 sales guys and those sales guys are doing X volume for you, then tell me why we can't have 100 sales guys.
24:13Explain to me the physics of why we can't have 100 sales guys. Or is it simply that you don't know how to recruit, hire, and train, which is a skill deficiency and solvable? Or is it that, okay, well, after we spend a certain amount of money on ads, our ROAS stops dropping. Okay, then your ads suck. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. You said something like, it's not unscalable, you're just unskilled. yeah yeah it's not a harsh truth but yeah no no businesses like i i get this question all the time like am i in the right vehicle and i sometimes i i wish i hadn't made that video um because i feel like it gave a lot of entrepreneurs permission to like jump out on things that are completely legitimate fine businesses and are just hard and it's stressful and it's always stressful it never stops being stressful so like stop seeing stress is a bad there.
25:04But if you simply frame the thing that is blocking the business as something you do not know how to do. So rather than saying, sales guys don't work for my business, say, I don't know how to get sales guys to work for my business. Instead of saying, Facebook ads don't work, say, I don't know how to make Facebook ads work. There's a very big difference. And fundamentally, first off, if you're in a business where there's other players in the marketplace, if someone else is doing it, it obviously can be done. And the funny thing is that to develop the skills that are required for some of these things like Facebook ads or hiring a sales guy or writing a script, it takes like 20 hours tops.
25:44Facebook is a gazillion dollar company that had all of these really smart engineers trying to make it as easy as possible for you to make money on Facebook so that you would pay them more money. A lot of these tech platforms that people are so afraid of. It's like, they spend so much money to try and make this easy and you're still a pussy for not trying. Because you're afraid of looking stupid to yourself when no one's watching, which is ridiculous. Clap it up.
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26:11And so, you know, if I could be honest with you, like, I remember seeing you speak at Bradley's office in 2020. And bro, like, I was lost, man. It wasn't that it was boring. It was I just got lost. I didn't know what you were saying. So I noticed like people here who like see Alex now, they're like, man, this is amazing. But I feel like you were still of a similar intellect at that time as you are today. But now you become like so much better at presenting and teaching and all the content. And so I feel like, is it the reps? Is it something that you really focused on? Did you get a coach? How did you go from having all this knowledge and throwing it up on spreadsheets that no one can understand to being able to present the ideas to where now millions of people in the country learn from you as their teacher?
27:02So the process that I outlined in terms of making content better and finding ads that worked is probably the single most repeated process I have in my life, which is I do a ton of volume. And then I look at the top 10 % of that volume. And I see what does this have that's different than this other 90? and then when i see ideally if i properly identify what the difference is between that 10 and 90 then i cut out the stuff that's in the 90 and do 10 times more of the 10 and then i do it again and that has fundamentally been how i've approached everything if i want to look at like how do i improve a sales script i listen to all the the sales calls i look at the ones that we were like these these calls are pristine they're awesome calls like look at the looping all the stuff that's involved we're like okay what was different about these calls versus the others okay we didn't talk about this thing we didn't ask this question but we did add this question and so then the script gets pruned and it gets cleaner it gets tighter and so when i looked at the content that was doing better it was content where i didn't use big words where i didn't talk about complex topics but or rather i talked about complex topics in a simple way and so i was like oh so one of the big um one of my first early videos that hit was um which now has come to haunt me uh how to get your wife to go where you want to go to dinner which is you know you wouldn't You wouldn't be opposed to going to Cheesecake Factory, would you?
28:19Which now everyone asks me if I'm opposed to doing podcasts, I'm opposed to doing speech events, whatever. But the thing is that it was a sales technique, but it was applied in a way that could be more accessible to other people. And I see that as the best of both. I'm not against getting a viral video as long as it's about business. And so that was a video that talked about a really powerful sales technique, but did it in a context that many people are in every day, which is figuring out what you want to eat for what do you want to eat for dinner and so that was a great crossover so i was like okay what was in this video i was like well we had big brand names so that was something that people recognized i was like i use simple words i used an experience that happens to many people all the time but it was tied to something that could make money so it's like these are all the things and so then when i'm making other concepts like okay is there a brand that we can draw into this is there an example we can pull in is there and so it's it's fundamentally doing that process of the first step that everyone skips do a shit ton then look at the stuff that worked well and then do more of that and i know that sounds incredibly simple and the only thing simpler is just not doing it yeah that's true and so this is part of the pre-work sometimes you talk about so it used to be that you know and i'd done this too we would just go in the studio we got to make content and shoot shoot from the hip turns into like a nightmare afterwards you have to clean it all up and figure it out and then sometimes i thought that was the easiest because i just didn't have that time.
29:43But you've talked about a process recently where you switched to doing more pre-work. Can you talk about this? Yeah. And we have a little saying is, was it an ounce of pre is worth a pound of post? That's our little... All the media guys are like, please more pre-work because more stuff they have to do on post otherwise. I will say this. Have you ever... Who here makes content? Can I get a hand raise? Okay. So keep your hand raised if the content... If you've had a piece of content you made that you really prepared a lot for it. You don't... Not all of them, but you've had one that you really like took some time on okay did that piece outperform your normal pieces okay well some of you suck at making content um the thing is is that when we prep a lot for a video we know that it's going to do better in general and so there's those and then there's the equal opposite which is where i'm fired up about something i'm like turn the fucking camera on like i'm tired of this and so then it just becomes a rant but like those are kind of the two polar extremes.
30:38The middle is where it kind of sucks, right? Where you're going in, you're punching the clock. You're like, all right, what are we going to talk about today? Like might as well not make it. But fundamentally, if you have each video that you outline with, what is the promise for this person, right? What is the proof that I can deliver on that promise? And then what's the plan that I'm going to walk them through? And you want to get that all that done in like eight seconds if it's a long, like we're experimenting right now. I'll tell you guys a fun experiment running. We're trying it. We're trying a no intro video.
31:05Yeah, it's going to be really weird. We're and see what happens. But I'm so convinced that just the more and more we shorten this intro, people... Think about you. You consume a video. You just skip past it. You just want to get to the meat. And so I was like, all right. Well, if we have 13 ways to create a monopoly ethically, we should just make it like... All right. So the first way is... And just go right into the video. And then have a lower third that edifies me and covers some of the... Who is this guy? And so anyways, that's stuff we're experimenting with. But just to give you an idea of how much I really want to compress that.
31:37And that's the stuff that we will obsess about. And in ads, for example, I know I'm going off, but the first... If you run paid ads, the first half second is tiny. It's tiny, tiny. You have to obsess about it. And I've been running ads for a long time now. And I've been making content for a short time. But in both of those, all I can tell you is that it's been unidirectional in terms of my obsession with the first moments. It's all about the first moments. And so some of you do have amazing videos that you spent a really long time on, but it took you 45 seconds to get to the point of the video and you lost everybody.
32:14And so if you can just get to the point faster and say as much as you can with as few words as you can, you may realize you don't want to make a 45 minute video if you can say it in five. And so it's about value per second, not seconds of value. And that, by the way, goes for everybody who's in education. So if you help people, if you train people, you do whatever, it's about how can I distill this in as few words as humanly possible. And if you've never done this before, take your words, put them into Hemingway or any writing app that gives you a grade level. Keep beating it up until you get it to third grade.
32:49And then look at what the language looks like. If you start speaking in that way, people will understand you better. What you're not going to do is people are like, If people can't understand me, I don't want their business. It's like, well, I do. Their money spends the same. And so what happens is if you make it simpler for people to understand, more people will. And the people at the top will simply enjoy it more. Because it requires less mental effort for them to consume it. Which, by the way, part of the reason that being an authority and having proof that you can do what you say you can do matters is because it's actually more efficient for the listener.
33:31If you're a teacher who says they can help me to invest, you might have information that's better than Warren Buffett's. But I constantly have to appraise what you're saying in real time to decide whether I do think it's better or not. If the richest man in the world gives you investing advice, you actually don't have... You turn that part of your brain off. You're like, I'm just going to listen and take it as fact. And so it's actually lazier consumption to listen to an authority, which comes into all ethical things around persuasion. But like, fundamentally, that is why demonstrating authority is so important, because it actually makes it easier for them.
34:02It's less effort for the consumer. Yeah. And so like, for that looks like for so many people here is like, hey, in the last 12 months, I've been able to help this many clients do this result, or, you know, show one of those results. And then now we're watching it, the viewers average is like the average viewer is watching saying i don't have to decide if this guy's full of shit i can just listen to the video or watch the video so i love that and so you talk about ttv uh in a business sense when we have our products and ttv sends our time to value is this the same concept in video 100 okay so like we talk about value per second so a lot of the people in the room who said let's do this because i think this is really helpful for people uh here and watching this the people that said they spent a lot of time on that video and they thought it was going to be a banger and it wasn't it bombed yeah it got like 13 views on youtube and it got eight on instagram and they're like they dm me at 11 o 'clock at night saying neil i know you're into you're preaching content but it just doesn't work for me yeah it was probably because of this yeah it's most likely totally 100 100 well there's there's two extremes that if you're that person, right?
35:14So if you're that person, I'm talking to you. So you have two options. One is you can say, I will never do content again. I mean, that's like taking the logical stream. Like that's it. I will never try again. I am so fragile that me putting an hour into a video and it not working out that I will forever forego a free form of advertising that could get me customers. That's what you can do. That's an option. Or you try again. That's it. You try again. You make 10 videos that you spend an hour on. And you just look at the one that did better of the 10. You say, what did this one have that the other ones didn't?
35:53And then you do more of that. And over time, we talk about having... So at Aquasim.com, we've been saying it's no silver bullets, only golden BBs. And so the things that create excellence are never one big thing. If it was one big thing, everyone would do that big thing. And realistically, if there ever are silver bullets, everyone immediately starts doing them and the whole industry moves up and then it becomes baseline again. And so it's all the details. It's the 99 golden BBs that matter. And so if you don't already have checklists, live by checklists. Because you can't keep it all in your head.
36:26It's like, okay, I have to have the interest to have these four things. And I also like, just have it in front of you. And it's like, okay, let's make sure. And one of the things I would encourage you to do, like I wish my team could like nod their heads right now. We will sometimes go through an entire video and finish it. And we'll both, and I'll be like, I think we can do that one just again, but better. And they're like, let's run it again. And so we run it again. And so once we get at the end, we're like, I feel like we could do it better the third time. It's like, all right. Even though I've just said the same thing for the last two hours, because I just did an hour long video, took it again hour-long video took it again and then the third try it comes out perfect and then it crushes and so i like one of my favorite sayings in training is awesome again like you're training a sales guy you're like awesome again and so you're training yourself you just have to think to yourself like awesome again yeah and i love that because it's like more reps but also being intentional about the process like he talked about success leaves clues why did this piece of kind of do better how can we go deeper on that and i love the idea of just having a checklist yeah like really simply what you have to go through to make each video what are all the elements of proof does this thing have it what are all the ones like what are all the elements i made this the one proof video that i have really good okay well it started with a painful experience all right let's make sure that all the ones we have start with painful experiences not saying that's what it is but i'm saying hypothetically that would be one of the things that you could add yeah and so a lot of people are concerned about ai and you know deep fakes and all these people making content and stuff and ai is going to take over the content generation but you talk uh you did a piece of content recently about how to create ai proof content like i'm not proof in this case but like ai proof like it's we're immune from that what is that so unless ai lies they can't talk about what it did in the real world
38:21so you could talk about what you've done yeah it's pretty simple so yeah it's like documenting the stuff that you've actually done in the world like you do shit and talk about what you did then no one else can talk about the stuff you did because only you did it it's very simple i love that and also uh if you keep doing things you'll never run out of ideas for your content 100 like i said because I often get that like, where do you think of content ideas? I'm like, I don't. I have 100 other ones that I could probably make. But I just... I look at my calendar. And I look at all the conversations that I had over the last week.
38:57And I think, huh, this is kind of interesting. This is kind of interesting. And guess what? When you look at real life experiences, you have examples because they're real. And so I would... And I'll tell you for myself, for all the content that I make, it's very rare that theoretical content does well. If you want to teach a concept, it's like... Concepts are a dime a dozen. Giving people examples, making it real for them is what they value because they want to use it in the real world, in their lives. And so the best way to know that it will work in their life is that you told them that it worked in your life.
39:28And here's how. And so that's fundamentally, I think if you... That's what we call one of zero content, which is something that only we can make. And so everybody here can make content that no one else can make by simply talking about the stuff that you've done that no one else has done. I love that. And this is interesting when we talk about people in the room who talk about... One quick... I want a one quick add on that. So there's two ways that you can show proof, right? So if you're advanced or you've been doing this a while, then you want to show proof of results, period. As many as you possibly can in the format I've talked about the most believable way.
40:02Great. If you're newer, you can show proof of effort. So I could have said, I've made 35 ,000 posts. That's still enough work that people are like, well, I don't want to do that work. I want to see what he learned. And so fundamentally, when you're making content, one of the easiest frames to use is how can I give someone time back? So people want to buy time at a bargain. And so if you can just say, look at this took me... I took 1 ,000 sales calls. Like for me, Even when I was saying this now, I reviewed... It took me 4 hours to review 2 ,000 ads. You're like, well, I don't want to have to make 2 ,000 ads.
40:35It takes 4 hours. I'll list... What's the thing that you learned? That's the idea. And so you can do that by just looking at the stuff within your business. And so this process of look back, see what worked, that is how you create content. It's how you solve your own problems. And so whenever you make a little framework for your team, just tell other people about it. And for those of you who are like, another team is going to use my checklist. Lots of teams use my checklists. Hasn't made me less money. Yeah. You even said something recently where somebody said, hey, I came up with the closer framework.
41:10And no, you're like, no, I came up with it. Or, you know, like, how did, like, can you explain this real quick? Yeah, sure. No, I had a guy who was like, hey, I really hate, like, he saw me walking around in public. He was like, I used to hate you for a really long time, man. And I was like, cool. He's like, I don't anymore. more. I was like, thanks. And then he DM'd me afterwards because he followed me or whatever. And he was like, hey, it was because you stole closer from me, but I've gotten over it. I'm fine with it now. I was like, I don't know who the fuck you are, man. No. But the thing is, do you think it's possible that close the word is something that many salespeople have talked about?
41:48And it's got 5 or 6 letters in it. So it's easy to make an acronym that has a process around it, there's probably more. And you know what? There's another guy who's like, Hermose, he stole that one from me. There's always going to be things that people feel like you're stealing from them or that whatever. First off, if he were better at teaching it, everyone would notice his. First off. Second of off, I've been doing it four years before him. thirdly even if who cares yeah does he own the concept like you think snapchat was like instagram you took stories from us deal with it yeah it's competition it's how it works i remember i took i had a i went to a lawyer when someone copied my ads word for word and they were like yeah that's that's just competition man they're like this is an ip they're like this is what makes America he's like now you have to get better and I was like well shit yeah because I people complain that you know this guy stole my content this guy it's like these are just concepts many of us and so many of us are in the same industry in this room and uh you don't own the concept and I think like that's so kind of a freeing thing like hey I could just talk about my thing and not worry if I'm copying or not copying somebody else.
43:12So one is, even if you leaned into it and said, yeah, and? What are you going to do about it? Are you going to make more content? Beat me. Beat me. Everyone wants to... They threaten you with some sort of moral imperative. And you're like, oh, I can copy your content. And? What are you going to do? You're going to cry to mom? What are you going to do? beat me. You know what I mean? And so we have this like, I would never... It's like, it doesn't even matter. I think it's stupid to copy content because you're copying somebody else's life, which is dumb. But for that to be the argument, what a waste of time.
43:52Yeah. 100%. And so I want to get into a few things about the actual content strategy. And then as we wrap up, one of the obstacles that everybody in this room faces, which is they tell me they don't have time for content okay so first things first calls to action ctas in your videos uh could you give us some guidance like where where do you feel about this like what have you seen works what doesn't work where should we put them how often should we put ctas yeah so i think uh this is my two cents so we try and put i used to put them in the in the in the end middle we now do like 30 ish through the video because you just get more people are going to see it so about a third of the way through is where we where we do our little integrations is what we call them i never have um not never but i try not to put pre-recorded uh ctas in i try and relate it to the content because then it kind of flows more naturally and it doesn't seem weird and so we'll also think like right after we do a video we're like okay what's the right cta for this video so if you have the same thing like i don't want to have the same cta like you want to have different lead magnets different kind of problems that you can solve um that you can direct people so it's like if it's a video about starting a business, then I'm like, hey, you should check out school.
45:03It's free. And if it's somebody who's... If it's about private equity and debt, I'm like, all right, we should check out one of the workshops at acquisition.com where you should apply to become a portfolio company. So it's like, I want to make sure that it's relevant. And if I'm talking about offers or a really tactical lead thing, I'm like, oh, check out my book. I have a whole thing on that. And so it's just directing where I think it makes the most sense. And I think number one, that's number one. Number two is, okay, how do you make CTAs? I think the problem is less about CTAs. I think it's more that there's not enough value in general.
45:34And so it's like if you make the video and half of it's CTA, there's just not enough value. You haven't deposited enough to create motivation for somebody to take action. And so as long as you have a banging video, you can put CTAs in. It's just don't take up a huge amount of time. Let them know what is it, why is it important, how do they get it, that's it, and then just move on. And just keep it very simple. So these are like 30 seconds in the middle. I think they're even less than that. I think mine are like eight. I mean, they're just like, Hey, if you like this and you're trying to grow your company, I was like, we just started acquisition.com's workshop division.
46:09It's like, so if you're, you know, one to 20 million, I was like, it's probably a good set for you. You can check it out. See you there. And that's it. Like, let's move on. He just did one for you. Here. There you go. There you go. So this is the thing. People tell me, Alex, they're like, yo, bro, I don't have time. Like I got the, I'm putting out fires here. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. And you did a concept recently where you talk about how you create content versus how you manage the business. Yeah. And you call this maker time. Yeah. Can you explain? Because I think this really helped me in terms of like, I was trying to do both at the same time and it fucks it up.
46:41Yeah. So there's tons of research on switching costs between different tasks. Like you're like, you know, three times less efficient on both tasks by switching. And so fundamentally, you have time where the objective that you have is to make as many decisions as you can and have as many meetings as possible. And so I call that manager time. And so there are blocks of days, which is usually a half day or more where this is manager time. And so I stack as many meetings as I possibly can. And you want the meetings to be as short as you can, as targeted as you can, so you can make as many decisions as possible.
47:14So that... Sounds painful. Well, I mean, I tell the girls, I'm just like, I'm like, just destroy me. Just put everything you possibly can. And if someone's like, hey, do you got a second on Tuesday? I do mine on Mondays. is like, yeah, next Monday. And they're like, no, but like, this is how urgent is it? Is the business going to end? No. Okay. So it's not urgent. All right. Monday. And what happens is in the beginning, there are people are going to want to interrupt you. But very quickly, they're like, oh, Monday is the only time that I can talk to them. Guess what happens? They start preparing to talk to you.
47:47And so then they think ahead of what are all the things that I'm going to need looked at this week so they can make decisions ahead of time. And so you can be way more efficient with your time. And so fundamentally, it's knowing that for me, the things that have moved the business forward the most, when I look back on months and quarters, it's the stuff that I did in maker time. The manager's time just occurs. And so you need to make time for maker time. You don't need to make time for manager time. Manager time happens. And so it's really just fencing off where all of your distractions go into.
48:17And when I start those days, I know I'm not doing anything productive. And for some reason for me, I'm like, I give today. I offer today a sacrifice to my business. Bother me. Distract me. Tell me the 100 things that you want. Yellow or pink. I'm like, I don't care. Pick one. That makes sense. And so this is like when you're in maker time, nobody's bothering you. You're just working on this stuff. And you talk about using maker time to do the one thing. and what is that one thing for you and like can we how can we relate to this because i think that's the part that people are missing and that's why i talked to them five years later and we're in the same we're having the same conversation nothing's changed if you don't know what is constraining your business you are the constraint um and what i mean by that is like your lack of knowledge and so ignorance is the biggest debt we all pay for not knowing how to do the things we should and for me having absolute clarity on the one thing that's holding my business back means that every waking hour i have is dedicated to solving that problem and sometimes that solving that problem might take a year and a half sometimes it can take a month sometimes it can take a week right um if i want to write a book because i think that's it would be important for my brand that's not like okay i'm gonna write a book this week it's like no but it's got to be a good book Like, oh, that takes more time.
49:38And so it's like, but if I do this thing, then it will make the other goals that I have shrink into irrelevance or occur as a result naturally with less effort. And so we spend a lot of time trying to find like, what's the kill shot? Like, what's the one big domino, I think Tim Ferriss calls it, of like, if I just knock this one thing over, everything else becomes irrelevant. If you were to build the largest real estate mortgage personal brand in the space, would that make all of the other goals you have happen anyways? Maybe. I don't know what your goals are. So for me, when I started this whole journey with acquisitions.com, I was like, well, what's the most valuable thing for an investor, which is proprietary deal flow, which is deal flow that only comes to you that's incentivized.
50:20And so I was like, okay, well, if I just built that, then I can make up for the fact that maybe I'm not the best at picking companies. Maybe I'm not the best at... Maybe I don't have more capital than Blackstone. You're like, what are the... But if I have this, then that's something that I can compete. right and so trying to be really clear on like what is that thing that i can pour all my effort into that realistically you don't know how to do yet and that's what maker time is 90 of the time is figuring it out is figuring like the job of the maker is to do something that you have not done before and by doing that you get better and so sometimes it takes two weeks to identify and ask the right question but then once you ask the question then the answer becomes clear right And so I will say though, to be clear, if you're in a smaller business, your maker time is going to have to come outside of business hours.
51:10So it's the 9 to 5, you're doing your job. But it's the 5 to 9 in the morning and the 5 to 9 at night, which is where you're going to have your maker time. And if you're like, man, that sounds like work, welcome to the world. And if you're like, well, I'm not willing to do that. That's fine. I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying somebody else will and they'll beat you. That's it. Simple. yeah it's like i feel like a lot of people are talking about putting out fires and even talk about letting fires burn and building your teams but if you're not there yet yeah and you haven't gotten to a position where you could hire a bunch of people because you don't have the revenue or whatever that is then you need to do it yeah and so i spent like so much time at night just doing content and then for years until i could actually afford to be able to do it during my work hours so four hours is what i recommend for everybody so if you're not if you're not at three million a year yet.
52:01So it's about 3 million a year where you can start moving some of this around. But 4 hours a day is what it takes in advertising to keep letting people know that you exist. Because no one cares and they have forgotten about you already. It's 4 hours a day of just reminding the world that you exist. And so you can do that via content, you can do it via paid ads, you can do it via outreach, it doesn't matter. But 4 hours. If you do that every day, you will never go hungry. Because it's really hard to do something for four hours a day for a year every single day and not get pretty good at it it's tough like it's really hard to do and most people won't and that's why you win right that's it and simple not easy and most of you guys already know that correct now as we wrap up here alex like by the way has Has this been helpful for you all?
52:51Thank you.
52:55So, I believe, you know, you talked about us making priorities and doing these things. I feel like many of us in this room, there's some young folks here, but a lot of us are older, like myself, right? You know, you're 40 years old. I wish I would have learned this when I was 20. I wish I would have learned this when I was young, like you, bro. But I learned it in my late 30s and now I'm just starting in my 40s. And I feel like a lot of people tell me, is it too late? You know, fuck, is it too late? And so, what words can we give these people who are like, bro, I've been working on the wrong thing for the last 20 fucking years.
53:30Yeah. I'm 50 years old. I'm 48 years old. I'm 52 or whatever. Like what can we say to these people who are like and to actually say, man, it's not too late how do we move forward no i don't know the right shit no i give up now
53:52yeah bro just um just accept that you will never never win and that there's nothing in your control and no one has ever been in a worse circumstance than you and made it work better like you have insurmountable odds being in a room that you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to be in in America, access to technology, and you're right, you won't.
54:29Yeah. Because what's the alternative? Like what option do you have? So I think the amount of effort you should be putting into deciding whether you should do it or not is zero. Like I have so little energy to convince and so much to educate and support. And so I think that for you, like if you know what you have to do, then all of the space between knowing what you have to do and doing it is your competitor's opportunity. And so if the thing is, what are you going to do? You have you're 45. Okay. So you've got 20 more years, you're just going to say, well, I guess that's it. It's like, well, then die now.
55:16Well, you're pretending like you're dead. So you might as well just do it. I'm being purposely hyperbolic here. But I'm saying this because some of you have to get slapped in the face with reality. It's like, what are you going to do? What else are you going to do? What are you going to do all day? And so fundamentally, I think, what does this change about my behavior. So rather than having all the like, what if it doesn't work? What if people laugh about me? What if it's like, if more people know about my stuff, I will make more money. Period. If more people know about my stuff, then more people will buy.
55:47Okay. If that statement is true, then what actions do I have to do on a daily basis to let more people know about my stuff? If I make more content, make more calls, I do... I run more paid ads or I make more ads every day, then more people will find out about my stuff. Okay. Well then, unless I'm complaining from the fact that I can't handle the number of calls that are coming, which is one of the problems that I've always had in my whole life. I usually out-market my ability. Usually I have to just sit on my hands and be like, just let me know when you want more leads. But until you get to that constraint in the business, then you are the constraint.
56:22You need to make it rain. It's like you want to be this big successful business owner, but you're not willing to say like, I started late. So did Sam Walton. So did Colonel Sanders. You know what I mean? But again, it's this fallacy of the perfect pick that you wish you could choreograph your entire life from day one so that you could, what, be number one in this space for a few years and then somebody else will be number one? like it's completely irrelevant because i think the big thing is is that we have this external goal that like this thing that we want to achieve but like you're who knows who the top 20 richest guys in the world were 30 years ago a bunch of japanese guys before the japan economy crashed no one remembers it was that those guys whole life goal to get there but even if you're number one even if you're basis even if you're musk you touch the top for a few seconds and then you're gone.
57:18And so the idea that you wouldn't begin on something that's uncomfortable, that's going to make you better, because you don't think you're going to be able to touch the top, which also isn't going to be relevant anyways, means that you don't think you're worth investing in making better at all. And I think that that's... I mean, fundamentally, I've seen the purpose of my life as to grow, to get better. And so if I have opportunities to get better, then I'm excited. I'm like, cool, let's do it. I don't know how to make content. To your point, I mean, everything's relative. I started making content when I was 30, whatever, right?
57:53Like realists, like trying to actually do it. And there's like, these Gen Z motherfuckers are getting able to do it at, you know, whatever. But then, but you know what, they got a different set of problems. They're going to have AI that's going to hit them way sooner than us, right? We actually got to, you know, establish, you know, a foothold in the world. We got a little bit of financial, you know, support, whatever. And so it's like, everybody's got problems. These are yours. and only because you deem to call them problems. But either way, what are you going to do? How is it going to change your behavior?
58:21And is there a world where you don't want to become the best version of you? Where you say, because I can't be number one, which only one person can only for a specific time period, because I can't have this completely ephemeral outcome, I choose to be nothing to no one forever. That sounds pretty dumb. Guys, give it up for Alex. Thank you.
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