Cody Rigsby

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2:44Here we go. hi guys welcome welcome thank you for being here at our at our live podcast event i'm i'm excited to interview tonight's guest this is a very special episode of the goop podcast he is he comes to us from the power of the bike and he is the voice that gets you moving and the motivation that keeps you showing up. So please, will you all help me welcome the inspiring Cody Rigsby. How are you? I'm so good. How are you? I am fantastic. Look at all these beautiful people in the audience.

3:31Oh, thank you so much. It's so interesting to learn about the fanaticism that people have for you. Okay, yes. And feel the excitement in the room. I do. Okay. They're way more excited to see you than me. Possibly, but you know. Definitely. I'll take the credit. I'll take the credit. So I'm so, I'm really interested in your journey, actually, to this incredible, I mean, you really are the picture of strength and wellness. Yes. Will you tell me a little bit about your journey to this place? I know that you had kind of a rough start. For sure. In life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So will you tell me a little bit about how the journey began?

4:16Yes. And since you are technically an Avenger, I do feel, I'm going to be honest, that like 70 % of the room doesn't know that. But okay, I'm glad that you do know that. She is an Avenger. And that is one of the movies I've seen the most. Avengers Endgame. I don't think I'm an Avenger. You were in the Iron Man suit. Of course you were. She doesn't know. It's okay. Okay. I did see a quote where you said, I don't know how many Marvel films I've been in. And that does track. But my whole point in saying that was I always think of this as my Avengers first film story. You know, it's like, how did Spider-Man get his powers?

4:55Okay, let's see how Cody got here. So I was born in Los Angeles, California to a single mother. Both of my parents kind of dealt with addiction. My dad died when I was like four months of a heroin addiction. My mom dealt with addiction her whole life as well. and I'm so grateful and fortunate that she's still happy, healthy, and in my life. Which is, you know, a lot of times that's not the outcome, right? Or when we become the parents for our parents and overburdened with responsibility. How did that happen for you? Did she get clean and sober? Yeah, I think, well, we moved to North Carolina when I was eight years old and I think that was the separation that she needed.

5:34I think L.A. wasn't a healthy place for her And so moving to North Carolina allowed her to like step into her power, step into a great space and really create a better life for me. Right. So I grew up in North Carolina, was there until 22 when I graduated from college. I moved to New York City to be a dancer. OK. What kind of dance? That's a great question. I was shaking my tits to Britney Spears. And I just wanted to be a little video ho, you know, being in the background, dancing five, six, seven, eight for a popper. artist where I got to do that for like four or five years of my life. I got to dance for Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj.

6:12I did the Victoria's Secret fashion show, which was fantastic. But then I got to a point in my life where I was like, I'm not getting paid money. I feel like I'm moving furniture. And I went to this audition for JLo and some things happened in that audition that I was like, you know what? This is not for me. I'm getting out of here. Someone feel your butt. I wish I wish that was the problem because I do enjoy being objectified And I couldn't touch hers because you know, it's insured so and we all know that we like consent because consent is what sexy All right. No, I kind of got out of that situation.

6:49I was like, this is not for me anymore I don't know what's next but I shouted out to God share Madonna whoever was going to listen. And I said, bring me what's next. And that's when Peloton landed in my lap. I was working at a nightclub in New York called The Box, where they have this very risque burlesque show. And the choreographer slash director knew that I was a dancer. And he had a connection to Peloton where this guy was like, hey, do you know any performers that would be into fitness? And so he sent me the email. And listen, Gwyneth, I was broke and he broke. And I was just like, I'll take whatever job I can get.

7:28So I took my little headshot and my dance resume to this fitness company called Peloton. And they hired me within 10 minutes because I'm hot. And here we are 11 years later in the fitness industry where I kind of started in this space where I didn't know what the hell I was doing, but I had a fat ass and a will to succeed. So I made it happen. And I've been at Peloton for 11 years. I've done Dancing with the Stars. I've done tons of brand campaigns. I have my own podcast called Tactful Pettiness. That's called a shameless plug. And I really feel that through Peloton, I found my purpose, which was really inviting more and more people into into wellness, into fitness by breaking down the fear.

8:18I think anybody that starts a fitness journey, they're scared to do it because they might look stupid. They don't know what they're doing. And so I kind of took a page from the Richard Simmons book of someone who just got on a stage, made a silly fuss and made people feel comfortable. And I feel like that's what I do at Peloton is make fun of life, make fun of myself so that people feel comfortable in those spaces. and how did you go from your first class do you remember your first class and how how I do honestly was it in the first class that you were like wow I'm a star and they were like yeah you're a star no not at all I actually kind of hate watching videos from the first like four or five years of my career at Peloton because I was kind of like a fish out of water I didn't know what the hell I was doing.

9:08It was kind of this back and forth of watching my classes, seeing what was doing well. And I always found that the most successful classes, because we have a lot of data that we get at Peloton, were these ones that I was talking about pop culture or random things in my life or making fun of life or shaking my tits. And like people really resonated with that. And so I kind of just like leaned into that more, moving away from the stereotypical, hyper-masculine boot camp instructor. And it was just like, how do I make fitness fun? And that's where I've landed. And through the pandemic, Peloton became very popular and gave me the platform to do so.

9:51And here we are. And tell me a little bit about sort of finding your voice and your style. because I think it's, you know, applicable not only to finding your style as a teacher, but, you know, in life sometimes I think we have difficulty really feeling comfortable expressing ourselves in a brave way. So were you kind of gingerly edging towards finding your style or did you just kind of one day say something, you know, kind of outrageous? Yeah, I think I kind of experimented with it. And I kind of landed in this space of like, it's not that deep. Boo. And it's I think when we take life too seriously, it restricts us, it keeps us in a box, it doesn't let us explore ourselves or the people in our lives.

10:45And so that's what was most important to me was not taking life so seriously. And that's how I think like my content became so popular and people accepted it and I feel many in this room know that I am a self-proclaimed slut and I celebrate that and I think people celebrate their own sluttiness while watching me body roll on a bike that goes nowhere to Britney Spears and if I can encourage myself or the many people in this room to get laid I've done my job And I want to, I'm going to circle back to the slot in a second, but, but on the way to the slot conversation, are you, so what are you like at home, not in front of the camera?

11:36You know, I always say that my online slash Peloton persona is about like 85 to 90 % of me. And I feel that what people resonate with is like authenticity. I know that's a buzzword, but I do feel like I'm showing up exactly how I am. But I think the people close to me and when I kind of shut down, not shut down, but kind of turn off, I become a little bit more of an introvert and more introspective and kind of like sit in that duality. I am a Gemini. So, you know, we have two sides to us. And I think I lean into that a lot. But I'm also someone who comes off very secure and I am. But we all have our insecurities.

12:20And I feel like my own mental health journey is the thing that's allowed me to get curious about those things, explore them, and ultimately love the shitty or dark parts of myself that we all have. And it's not until we love those parts of ourselves that we can fully step into who we are. Yeah. You do like Jungian therapy. just you know talking to Kate once a week about all my problems and all the relationships I failed at but that's okay you know well the the parts you know the that sort of therapy that Young sort of talked about originally of like our shadow selves and the darker parts of us the harder parts it's it's kind of harder said than done absolutely yeah I kind of something that I've been diving into is No Bad Parts, which allows you to kind of, the book No Bad Parts, which kind of, there's all these parts of us from trauma or childhood that are kind of stuck and you have to, and they kind of like act out and react and bring up the things that we might not like about ourselves.

13:28And you, the true you has to sit in the driver's seat and tell these young hurt parts that you're in charge, that you're okay, and that we're going to make it, you know? It's like this sort of tough adulting yourself. Yeah. I've been working on that too, from the perspective of my nervous system at the moment, because I think just from my crazy life, my nervous system is dysregulated. And so I've been working on sort of this mantra of like, right now in this moment, everything is okay, right? Absolutely. Sometimes I'll read an email and it'll feel like, you know, a slap in the face or a punch in the gut, you know, and I have to stop and think, this is not an appropriate physiological response to the input.

14:15So I, and, and it's, it's interesting, like there's the process of, you know, accepting that, you know, like I feel like, Oh, my nervous system's broken. It's, it's not, but you know, it's, it, it needs some healing and it needs some work. And I think that also does come from, you know, those harder to accept parts. And so how do you, how do you, is it easy for you to kind of be both things at the same time? Or like if you're in a bar, people coming up to you, like, do they expect you to be a showman? Uh, somewhat, you know, I, I kind of show up. I'm myself. I'm just grateful that anybody wants to take a picture with me and I'm just happy about that but I don't let kind of outside eyes dictate how I'm going to show up or enjoy my life I have no problems with making out with strangers in a bar and if anybody sees it they see it you know you said we were going to circle back to the slut conversation so I'm going to pepper it into the conversation as much as possible okay good but I also I think back to your what you were saying is like I always tell myself that I've I've made it through everything that life has thrown at me like this hard thing or this situation it's it's not gonna get me down girl like yeah you're gonna snatch my wig that's for sure so on the slutty front okay now we're talking now we're talking i read that you don't believe in monogamy okay i do believe in monogamy but monogamy is not for me right i'm saying for yourself yes right okay And you were in a long relationship where you sort of tested that theory.

15:56Yes. Okay, Gwyneth. All right. Let's hard hitting journalism.

16:05Do you think that you are resistant to monogamy because potentially you have, you know, maybe an intimacy issue?

16:20or do you think honestly that some people are just not built for monogamy and it's too much fun to not be monogamous? Good question. No, I am not. I actually really thrive in intimacy and vulnerability. And I think when you can find someone that you can be that way with, it is really special and really unique. I think those are the places that we thrive but I think there is vulnerability and intimacy in letting your partner in to all of the different aspects of yourself and for me it's like I know that I'm not going to be able to sleep with one man for the rest of my life Gwyneth there's a lot of dicks out there and I want to enjoy them I want to enjoy all the dicks life has to offer, okay?

17:15With consent and regular STI checkups, okay? So I don't think I'm afraid of intimacy and I think that non-monogamy done in a really ethical way and communicative and collaborative way can be really fulfilling for oneself but also for one's relationship. From my take, okay? Yeah, absolutely. But your ex-boyfriend was not into that? The last one, yes. The one before that, no. So, and that was like a hard thing is that two-year relationship. It was two people trying to put aside their needs to make a relationship work and it just wasn't going to. So, you know, I had to be a free spirit and let that relationship go.

18:04Well, they dumped me. So, the decision was made. but I think also it's like I learned that the hard way because I was stuck in a I was stuck in a relationship or I chose to be in a relationship that wasn't fitting my needs and therefore I was acting out and being a dirty little scoundrel of a cheater and I said I don't want to do that anymore so I need to be in a ethically non-monogamous relationship the lingo I know the kids all right what I love what I hear from you that I really love is this like you seem to know yourself really really well and and live from that place I think that that kind of authenticity it doesn't surprise me that you resonate with so many people it's like your spirit is coming from that place thank you you're welcome I take that as a compliment it is a compliment good so you love Britney Spears I do.

18:58I do. Is she your number one pop star? Legacy pop star, yes. I think, like, who do I probably like? Legacy pop star. How old am I if he's calling? Yeah, but you know what? Whatever you're doing, keep doing it, all right? Britney Spears. Yes, I love Britney Spears. She's inspired me throughout my life. Why? You know, I think it kind of goes back to being in middle school where there were times where me and my mom were homeless. We were evicted from our apartment. We were living in hotels. And I remember my mom taking me to Best Buy and taking me there to buy CDs. And I would pick up a Britney Spears CD and I would like kind of escape through that music.

19:45Or I would watch MTV and learn all the little dances. And it just has this like, she has this nostalgic impact on me that I just go to a really happy place. I also think she's someone who's had an incredible career, who's also been through a lot and forced to go through a lot. And the fact that she's still standing is just a testament to how much we can go through. And I kind of get a little bit defensive when people talk shit about her because I'm like, girl, you try to be in a conservatorship for 10 years and see how you pop out on the other end. So I don't know. She just like inspires me to be resilient a little bit.

20:20That's great. Have you ever met her? I have not. I'm guessing you have. she has to think about it alright maybe maybe not I don't know it's okay it's alright do you know what I have this weird thing with famous people that I can't remember if I met them in real life that tracks that tracks because you meet so many that you just kind of forget have you met Beyonce yeah okay that I'm jealous of that I'm very jealous of she's pretty amazing oh yeah she is she is but I don't know if I've met Britney or not If I have, it was in passing. I'm sure I can ask Google if you did or not. I'm sure there's a picture on the internet somewhere.

21:03I just hope you didn't have your coochie out like she did, all right? It was 2006. She was going through a lot of things. Give her some grace, all right?

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22:20Will you explain Peloton to me a little bit? Because. Oh, yes. I've never done Peloton. Okay, that's okay. I feel like if I did it, I would want to come and do it with you. Yes, I agree as well. Yes. Okay, I'll bring Brittany. Okay, please do. Will you explain a little bit about, I mean, just because, does everyone do Peloton here? Okay, there are a few people here who are not clapping. so that's okay that's okay that's okay but you can convert us we're gonna convert we're gonna get bikes in their homes they can get on the app i don't know the price it is at right now but that's for you to figure out peloton is a digital fitness platform which started as a hardware of a bike with a screen on it that you could stream fitness classes on mostly cycling but we've expanded to treadmills, rows, strength, yoga, Pilates, stretching, meditation, the list goes on and on.

23:20And so it's kind of like the Netflix of fitness, where you can take a fitness class through so many different modalities, wherever you are on your phone, on the hardware. And so, you know, we're streaming to, I don't know what the number is these days, but seven, eight million members across the world. So it's... And people are doing them at the same time. Yeah, so I would say like 90 % of the classes are recorded live and then probably the other 10 % are coach to camera. I'd say 98 % of that make it onto the platform. And you can take the rides live with community members all at the same time.

23:56But I'd say most people take it on demand, whatever fits their schedule. And are you competing with other people? You can compete with other people. I'm not a very competitive person, so I could care less. But it's up to you. If that moves and grooves you, then use it. Yeah, there's a leaderboard so you can see where you're at. Yeah, kind of like a video game. And so, of course, during COVID, Peloton got incredibly popular. And also from a business perspective, revenue went through the roof. Yes. Is that when you started doing it in COVID time? No, no, no. So I've been there for 11 years. Oh, so way preceded.

24:32Way before. Going back to the conversation of finding your voice. Yeah. I was probably for the first four or five years, I was just like throwing shit at the wall and being like, what's what's working? And it was like right before COVID that I really found the humor, the joy, the silliness in it. And that's what I tried to bring to the fitness space. And I really feel like is a little bit serendipitous that I was ready for when COVID happened. And I knew who I was so that when the opportunity came and Peloton became this rocket ship of success, that I was was part of that. and yeah now it's 11 years later and I'm like okay wow what a journey of the star of the one of but yes yes I would agree with that I hope they I hope they give you equity they they have don't worry compensated well all right so you said you talk to Kate every week this is your yes Kate my therapist what precipitated you starting therapy it was the break a breakup that got me into therapy because I was I was messed up a relationship I felt really bad about that and I was in a really sad place and now me and her had a great I don't know like eight nine year relationship oh wow yeah we're still together isn't that great her and my barber are my longest relationships are you monogamous with those two no actually well with every time that I have to cheat on my barber because he's not there someone fucks up my haircut and that really annoys me As you can see, I have a great haircut today because I went to go see Tony.

26:06And then, you know, actually about a year and a half ago, I started seeing another therapist. So I kind of oscillate between Kate and Rodrigo every week. Okay. What is Rodrigo bringing that Kate's not? Well, I think when you went kind of like a non-monogamous relationship, you got to spice up the therapy and start to explore different things. and that's kind of where I started to read No Bad Parts and exploring that. Internal family system. Yep, good job. Thank you. All right, she knows. This is not my first rodeo, honey. It is not your first rodeo. Yeah, definitely not. Do you care to share your therapist's name?

26:43Sure. Okay. I have two as well. Okay. I'm not the only one. Barry and John. Okay. Okay. Both guys, okay. Both guys, yeah. All right. Should be that way for me, but you know. I don't know what that says about me. I don't know, it's okay. Okay. What's the sort of hardest thing for you to talk about? Oh. I think for a while it was my relationship with my mom. I think there was a lot of times that I felt that I wasn't a priority in my life as a child. and I think it built up a lot of resentment in me and was creating a really challenging relationship dynamic because also I've been really supporting my mom since I like left college.

27:39Financially. Financially. And she hasn't worked honestly since like 2008 and I've had kind of that burden on me as a young adult and now I'm like have made the money through Peloton and can support her. And I'm so happy to do that. But I think it came with a little bit of resentment, feeling like I had to step into being the parent sooner than I wanted to or was ready. And it was actually through a meditation retreat where surprisingly I had to shut up for an entire week, guys, where I came to this kind of conclusion that we are here because our parents are doing the best that they can. Is that perfect?

28:25No. And it's never going to be. But the love that they, that imperfect love is the reason that we're here and able to have the life that we have. And I also kind of realize that my mom has health issues, whether it be mental health or diabetes, stuff like that, that my time with her is super limited. Like the older I get, time just flies. And I don't know what my last moments are going to be with her. And so I had to make the conscious choice to let go of that resentment, let go of that pain, radically accept that I am the adult in this situation and the caregiver. Always have and always have been and always will be.