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Podcast Episode Summary: Invest Like a Congress Member (Encore)
Podcast Title
The Indicator from Planet Money
- Description: A bite-sized show about big ideas related to economy, money, and business, presented by the creators of *Planet Money*. The show offers quick insights in under 10 minutes, five days a week.
Episode Details
- Title: Invest Like a Congress Member (Encore)
- Description: This episode investigates how members of Congress and their families trade stocks through newly created funds that track these trades. The show explores whether these lawmakers beat the market.
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Key Concepts
Congress Members and Stock Trading
- Recent funds allow average investors to mimic the stock trades of congressional members.
- Two ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds) were created:
- Nance: Tracks investments by Democratic lawmakers (named after Nancy Pelosi).
- Cruz: Tracks investments by Republican lawmakers (named after Ted Cruz).
Performance of Congressional Investments
- Discussion on the performance of both ETFs:
- Nance stocks reportedly increased by 20% since the start of the year.
- Cruz stocks had a lower increase of 9%, below the overall S&P 500 index.
Ethical Concerns
- Debate on whether lawmakers should be permitted to trade individual stocks given concerns about potential insider trading.
- Advocacy for a bill, the Ending Trading and Holdings in Congressional Stocks Act, which would ban individual stock trading by Congress members while allowing investment in funds that track broader market trends.
Research Findings
- Bruce Sacerdote, an economist, conducted research on congressional trades and found:
- On average, lawmakers do not outperform the market.
- Their stock performance is similar to random selection, as demonstrated through a whimsical experiment involving reindeer at a Christmas-themed park, showing the reindeer outperformed Congress members' stock picks.
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Discussions and Insights
Initial Investment Experiment
- The hosts, Waylon Wong and Darian Woods, invested in both ETFs with a starting fund of $77.35.
- They compared the composition of both funds, revealing differences in sector allocations:
- Cruz had significant investments in oil and gas.
- Nance had minimal investments in oil and gas but favored software and pharmaceuticals.
Public Trust and Congressional Trading
- A low public trust statistic was highlighted: only 16% of Americans trust the government to act in their best interest.
- Concerns about integrity and conflict of interest were prominent in the discussion surrounding Congress members trading stocks.
Conclusion of the Experiment
- At the conclusion of the investment period:
- Nance returned $4.56.
- Cruz returned $2.77.
- Both investments underperformed compared to the S&P 500 index, indicating that following Congress may not be a reliable investment strategy.
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Key Takeaways
- Investing like Congress members through ETFs can be a playful idea, but actual performance may not justify the strategy.
- Ethical implications surrounding congressional stock trading continue to generate significant debate.
- The research suggests that Congress members do not consistently outperform the market, and random chance may yield similar results to their stock trading strategies.
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Related Listening
- [Stock traders are trying to beat the market — by copying lawmakers](https://www.npr.org/2024/06/06/nx-s1-4974720/congress-stock-trades-profits)
- [WTF is a Bitcoin ETF?](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-indicator-from-planet-money/id1320118593?i=1000640587489)
- [Planet Money's Toxic Asset](https://www.npr.org/series/124587240/planet-money-s-toxic-asset)
- [Planet Money Summer School: Investing](https://www.npr.org/series/1190516050/planet-money-summer-school-investing)
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Production Credits
- Produced by Julia Ritchie
- Engineering by Kweisi Lee
- Fact-checked by Sierra Juarez
- Edited by Cake and Cannon
*This episode originally aired on June 18, 2024.*
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hey, Indicator listeners, Darian Woods here. This week we're running our favorite episodes of the year. Today's episode explores how Democratic and Republican members of Congress invest and whether they're any good at it. We'll have a small update for you at the end. NPR.
0:26This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong. And I'm Darian Woods. And we have NPR's congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh with us today. She's dialing in from the House of Representatives. Hi, Deirdre. Hey there. Deirdre, the stock market is on a tear right now. And you reported this story that caught our attention about a company that partnered with the financial firm Subversive to allow everyday people to invest like members of Congress. Right. So this was initially created by a trader who calls himself Unusual Whales. Love the name. He has created two separate ETFs. Exchange traded funds.
1:01Right. That are modeled on the trades by members of Congress. So he's using publicly available forms, disclosure forms by these lawmakers or their spouses and dependent children's trades to model one ETF called Nance, which is modeled on Democratic lawmakers' trades named after former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. So casual. Nance. And another ETF called Cruz after Republican Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Very good. To show how the two different parties' investment strategies are working in the market. Darian, today on the show, you and I are going to invest in these two exchange-traded funds, as in these funds that track a range of different companies.
1:47One of us will go with Nance, comprising companies held by Democratic members of Congress, and the other will go the cruise direction, companies held by Republicans. And as we do this, we'll also consider whether politicians should even be allowed to play the market. So, Deirdre, how do you think we're going to do? I think you're going to do really well based on the past experience of these funds. Well, past performance is no indication of future performance. No, no, I think we're going to get rich, Darian. If you can't beat him, join him.
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2:54All right, so Waylon, I now have here the Planet Money Investment Fund. It's a very sophisticated jar. Oh, there's actually stuff in it because, you know, the Planet Money stock trading experiments have not gone that well in the past, let's just say. Yeah, the origin was in 2010 when the Planet Money team bought a toxic asset. Needless to say, that didn't go so well. Okay, should we count out how much we have to fritter away on this new experiment we're doing? Invest, invest, not fritter. We have$50,$60,$73,$74,$75,$76,$77. And I say a quarter and a dime. Nice. $77.35. That's a great amount of capital to start with.
3:42Now, this should be enough to buy these exchange-traded funds that are based on Congress members' trading. As we're taping now, one share of Nance, or N-A-N-C, is going for a little over$35 a share. And then Cruise with a K, K-R-U-Z, it is almost$30. So we'll each buy one share, and we'll check back in a week to see how we did. Wait, Waylon, what did we actually invest in? Yeah, so I'm just taking a scroll through this portfolio. I'm looking at what's in the cruise ETF. And the biggest category of holdings is actually oil and gas. So almost 11 % of the cruise ETF is in oil, gas, and consumable fuels.
4:27I'm going to look at the Democratic one on the NANC ETF. I'm seeing oil, gas, and consumable fuels is actually 0.65%. So basically zero. Really? Less than a percent? Oh, gosh. Very little. What about software? Yeah, mine is 6.2%. Mine is 17.5%. What? Really? So Democratic congresspeople love software, but Republicans less so. Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah, and on the Dems list, I also see pharmaceuticals, retail, insurance. Yep, same here. Investments all over the economy. Well, I'm feeling good about my investment because the trading based on Democratic lawmakers and their families is up 20 % in the year to mid-June.
5:12And that's about 5 percentage points more than the S &P 500, which is a reasonable proxy for the overall U.S. stock market. Cruz hasn't done as well. Those Republican lawmakers' trades are on average up only 9%, not as good as the stock market as a whole. But regardless, this raises the question of whether politicians are using inside information to profit from the stock market. Yeah, Josh Graham Lynn is the CEO and co-founder of Represent Us, which is an anti-corruption advocacy group. And he does not like the status quo. Members of Congress who are serving the American people simply shouldn't be in a position to trade individual stocks.
5:51Josh supports a bill to ban this trading. This one is called the Ending Trading and Holdings in Congressional Stocks Act, or the Ethics Act. Very clever. Now, Josh is OK with members of Congress investing in funds where they're tracking an overall rise in the market. just not trading individual companies. I don't think anybody wants to limit members of Congress from making investments and having a positive retirement ahead of them. It's when there's a perception of conflict of interest or perception of insider trading. That's what's really damaging to both Congress's credibility and the American people's trust in our political system.
6:28Just 16 % of Americans surveyed by the Pew Research Center say they trust the government to do what's right, just about always or most of the time. Oh, geez, that's really low. 16%. Not so good. And with the stock trading they're doing, it would be good to know the reality. Like, are politicians systemically making outsized gains on their stock trading? Short answer is no, absolutely not. Bruce Sassadote is a professor of economics at Dartmouth College, and he and his co-authors tallied all the congressional trades from 2012 to late 2020. On average, they do average. You know, stuff that they sell sometimes goes up.
7:09Stuff that they buy goes up, down. And in our paper, they, as a group, underperform. Bruce is not saying corruption in regards to trading never occurs. It just doesn't appear to be systemic. He finds even the top 1 % of traders don't look any different from stocks randomly picked, like the proverbial monkeys throwing darts at a dartboard. Now, Bruce didn't test monkeys with darts, but he did test reindeer. Actual reindeer. Yes. Bruce and his college student co-authors did some further research where they literally went to a Christmas-style theme park called Santa's Village. And they got reindeer to pick stocks by walking on pages of the Wall Street Journal.
7:51So they used the point of the hoof to decide which stock they were buying. Wow, so you actually did this. I was reading the paper and I wasn't sure if this was just a Christmas parody, but you actually got the reindeers to pick stocks? Absolutely. And, you know, some of my favorite parts of the paper where we point out that they exhibit herding behavior and that they're good at sniffing out new trends. Bruce does say there is a serious point here. The reindeer outperform the congresspeople and the senators on average, especially in a finite time horizon. And a couple of good picks dominate everything.
8:22And that point might carry over to the recent conversations about congressional leaders doing so well, because you have this idea that, well, maybe Nancy Pelosi is really killing it in NVIDIA and other tech stocks. But you have to ask yourself, OK, is that really inside information or is it that she represents a district that has a lot of tech companies? And when tech companies are doing well, she and her husband, Paul, are doing well. So we asked Josh, the advocate for bans on congressional stock trading, whether this kind of evidence made him rethink his position. I don't think so. I mean, think of it this way.
8:55If you had an NBA player who was bad at rigging the rules in favor of their team, would you still let them rig the rules in favor of their team? Of course not. Maybe this ethics bill would protect Congress people from their own bad stock picks.
9:13it's been six months since we made this episode and now for the results of our experiment nance or nancy outperformed cruise nance grew at a higher rate bringing in four dollars and 56 cruise brought in two dollars and 77 cents both did worse than the s &p 500 index our after-tax gains will be transferred over to the planet money investment fund now.
9:43This episode was produced by Julia Ritchie with engineering by Kweisi Lee. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. Cake and Cannon edits the show and The Indicator is a production of NPR.
From the publisher
Today on the show, we crack open the Planet Money Investment Jar to learn more about how our political leaders play the market, investing in funds tracking Democratic and Republican stock trades.
Whether Congressional stock trading should be limited is a hotly debated matter. So to test whether lawmakers are beating the market, Dartmouth College economist Bruce Sacerdote and his co-authors pitted lawmakers' stock picks against reindeer at a Christmas-styled theme park.
Trust us for this ride! It'll all make sense with some intriguing results.
This piece originally aired June 18, 2024.
Related listening:
Stock traders are trying to beat the market — by copying lawmakers
WTF is a Bitcoin ETF?(Apple / Spotify)
Planet Money's Toxic Asset
Planet Money Summer School: Investing
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