In short
Why oil prices aren’t as high as some analysts warned during the ongoing Middle East conflict, and how close the world may be to “stratospheric” costs.
Guests
Carl Larry, who works for Inveris, an energy-industry information/advisory firm that sells insights to major oil companies (BP, Shell, Exxon).
Key claims
Fracking and U.S. oil exports reduce hostage risk from a blocked Strait of Hormuz; U.S. production has been slow to ramp up, but investors may increase output if prices stay higher. Oil is around $100 partly because countries are drawing down strategic reserves. Additional supply is rising from Canada, Venezuela (550,000 bpd recently), Nigeria/Saudi pipeline efforts, and eased Russian sanctions. Demand is down globally via reduced driving and rationing (Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Slovenia), and China’s massive demand drop is partly mysterious.
Notable examples
Venezuela crude at 550,000 bpd; IEA warning of only “several weeks” of commercial inventories; prior $147 oil in 2007–2008.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding Current Oil Prices
0:48 to 1:10
Exploring why oil prices have not skyrocketed despite geopolitical tensions.
“This is The Indicator from Planet Money.”
Oil Crisis Explained
2:14 to 4:25
Insights from Carl Larry on why the current oil crisis isn't as dire as past ones.
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Factors Affecting Oil Prices
4:25 to 6:28
Discussion on the multiple reasons for the current oil price stability.
“We're starting to see a lot of Canadian crude production moving out to other countries too, especially Asia.”
Historical Context of Oil Prices
6:28 to 7:50
Comparison of current oil prices to historical highs and their implications.
“because you're getting to a point where there are going to be a limited amount of reserves left and then that place I don't think anybody wants to be.”
Transcript
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0:11A couple of months ago, some oil analysts had a big flashing red warning sign. They said if the Middle East war continued through spring, the price of oil could potentially reach$200 a barrel. But right now, it's actually closer to$100 a barrel. And even without getting out my calculator, I can tell you that$100 is way less than$200. So why is this happening? The U.S.-Israel war in Iran is almost three months in. Why isn't the price of oil even higher? This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong. And I'm Darian Woods. Today on the show, the oil price mystery. We learn about how the world is adapting to the blocked strait of Hormuz.
0:59And we ask how long until we might really hit stratospheric oil costs.
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2:19Carl Larry works for Inveris. That's a company that provides information and advice to the energy industry. The BPs, the Shells, the Exxons, anything you see there, you're stopping to get gas. They're proactively hedging or making sure that their risk is not too high when they pass along to the consumer. Carl charges oil companies a lot of money for his insights. That is prime advice as the Iran war stretches on. But we got to hear him for free. Yes. And Carl says the first big reason why the oil crisis now isn't as bad as ones in the past is because of fracking. The difference now is that America is actually exporting oil.
3:00The fracking revolution in the U.S. completely changed the global oil market from the mid-2000s. So now the world isn't totally held hostage by the Strait of Hormuz. There's an interesting caveat here, which is that American producers have actually been kind of slow to increase production since the war in the Middle East started. Here in America, it's a tricky thing to start increasing your production because we don't know if those prices are going to drop again. Frackers and their investors got burned when the price of oil collapsed in the COVID pandemic. They've been reluctant to invest in expanding again.
3:32Any new wells means hiring people, getting the equipment and setting it up for the long run. But most of those wells won't be profitable once the price of oil goes back to what it was before the Middle East war. But I do think that people are starting to realize here in the U.S. that they are producing, that are fracking, saying, hey, this might be higher for longer. So with that in mind, they can start incrementally increasing that production, knowing that there is going to be a buffer somewhere down the road. With U.S. production not going up by much, you'd expect U.S. exports to be flat. But the US, along with many others, has started drawing down its strategic oil reserve.
4:10And that's reason number two why oil is hovering around$100 a barrel. Carl has a third explanation for why there seems to be a kind of lid on even higher oil prices than we might otherwise see. It's that we have seen increased production from other parts of the world. We're starting to see a lot of Canadian crude production moving out to other countries too, especially Asia. Last week, we saw 550 ,000 barrels a day of crude come in from Venezuela. We have not seen that level, that high, since January 2019. Edo, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia trying to increase exports via a pipeline, plus easing of Russian oil sanctions, and you're starting to see real efforts to increase supply.
4:52Yeah, it's always worth remembering this point in economics that, you know, the higher a price for something goes, the greater incentive there is for the market to provide more of it. And that has taken an edge off the Strait of Hormuz blockades. Another Econ 101 lesson, higher prices also mean less demand. That's the fourth explanation. Oil consumption has dropped all over the world. Some of that is from oil refiners buying less. Some is from people deciding to drive gas cars less. And some is from outright rationing in countries like Sri Lanka, Myanmar, and Slovenia. A significant drop in oil imports, though, is from China.
5:32China's ramp-up of solar panels and electric vehicles might explain a little bit of this drop, but it's been so huge that analysts are scratching their heads. One way the Chinese government could be curbing demand might be through massive drawdowns of their strategic oil supplies, like the U.S. is doing. But satellite imagery doesn't show big drawdowns so far. The Chinese government is very strict on releasing information that they would think sensitive to outsiders. So it remains a mystery. I agree. One theory that some oil analysts have is that China might have underground strategic oil reserves that they're drawing from.
6:09So this leads to an uncomfortable conclusion. If the world has been spared even higher gasoline prices, partly because of countries like the U.S. and China drawing down their strategic oil reserves, then that can't last forever. Another large strategic reserve release would be very, very unnerving because you're getting to a point where there are going to be a limited amount of reserves left and then that place I don't think anybody wants to be. So is there an X date you're thinking about? By the end of the year, if we're in the same situation, it would be catastrophic financially. That would be just really, really not good for the rest of the world.
6:51Wow. I hope that doesn't happen. We all do. We all hope it doesn't happen. That's for sure. Other oil insiders are concerned we're going to reach that breaking point sooner. The head of the International Energy Agency said this week that we only have several weeks of commercial inventories left. He told the G7 finance ministers that the financial markets weren't taking into account just how fast oil reserves were dwindling. It's an active debate, and it really comes down to how much you think supply and demand can adjust. It's also worth noting that we've dealt with higher oil prices before. Oil prices were at$147 back in 2007, 2008, but this time they're not.
7:32There was high demand from China at that time, and the U.S. hadn't yet scaled up its fracking. Yeah, it sometimes feels like gas prices are unprecedentedly high. But no, they actually have been higher, even in recent memory. Maybe just not in my memory, because I do not remember it being at 147. I will say, though, that I didn't own a car then. I think that's why it didn't really cross my radar. No, the price of oil spikes a lot. This one seems particularly worrying, maybe because we don't know how it's going to end. But yeah, we have been here before.
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