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Podcast Episode Notes: The Indicator from Planet Money - "Why Can't We Insure Trees?"
Episode Summary In this episode of *The Indicator from Planet Money*, hosts Waylon Wong and Ellie Katz delve into the complex issue of why trees, particularly those used for timber and maple syrup production, are not insured like other crops in the U.S. This discussion follows a devastating ice storm in Michigan that damaged thousands of acres of forest land and affected the livelihoods of those dependent on these trees.
Key Concepts and Discussions
The Impact of Extreme Weather
- In spring, northern Michigan experienced an unprecedented ice storm causing severe damage to over a million acres of forest.
- Dale Forrester, a maple producer, describes the destruction and the personal impact, noting that about 50% of his trees might not survive.
Insurance Coverage for Trees
- While Dale's equipment and syrup products are insured, the standing trees themselves are not.
- This lack of coverage is not limited to private landowners like Forrester but also extends to large timber companies.
- Approximately 60% of Michigan's timberland is privately owned and remains uninsured.
Historical Context and Demand for Timber Insurance
- The concept of timber insurance has been considered since the 1930s, with government studies exploring its viability.
- Da Weizhong, a forestry economist, states that while there is demand for timber insurance, the current market rates are too high (0.5% to 1% of property value) compared to what landowners are willing to pay (0.2% to 0.3%).
Economic Implications
- For Dale's farm, the potential insurance cost could reach $6,000 annually at market rates, which is significantly higher than what he would be willing to pay.
- The valuation of trees is complex due to varying species and market conditions, making it difficult for insurers to assess risk accurately.
Successful Models from Other Countries
- Examples from countries such as France and China show that government intervention can create a market for timber insurance, lowering premiums and ensuring coverage for landowners.
- The Nordic model, where timberland owners form cooperatives to negotiate insurance terms, also presents a viable alternative.
Future Considerations
- As climate change leads to more extreme weather events, the need for tree insurance may become more pressing.
- Dale and other producers are currently seeking financial aid from the USDA to help recover from the storm, including reforesting efforts.
Current Developments
- After advocacy, some Michigan insurance companies are beginning to reimburse producers for damage to maple lines, which were previously uninsured.
Conclusion This episode highlights the intricate relationship between agriculture, insurance, and environmental factors, stressing the importance of developing a market for timber insurance as climate change continues to impact forestry and agriculture. Dale Forrester’s story underscores the urgency of this issue, not just for individual producers but for the broader timber economy in the United States.
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Additional Notes
- The episode features interviews and expert insights from forestry professionals and insurance agents.
- It addresses the challenges and potential solutions for insuring timber and trees, a topic historically overlooked in the insurance industry.
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Transcript
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0:11This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong, and here with me is Ellie Katz from Interlochen Public Radio in Michigan. Hello, Ellie. Hi, Waylon. Good to be here. Great to have you. And Ellie, you are in northern Michigan, which I remember had a really bad ice storm earlier this spring. Yeah, it was like the worst ice storm we've had since 1922. There were power lines coming down, trees coming down. It was pretty bad. I remember just the scale of it was wild. Over a million acres of forest land were damaged. The pictures look like the tops of all the trees just got sheared off. They look like matchsticks.
0:46It's pretty crazy. And that is in a really heavily forested part of the state. And some people there rely on those trees for their livelihood. I went to talk with someone like that. His name is Dale Forrester. Oh, man. I bet he's heard all the jokes. Yes. And Dale is a maple producer in Atlanta, Michigan. We talked right after the storm outside his sugar house, which is where he boils maple sap down into syrup and sugar. This tree here possibly will make it, but the one back there won't make it. So I would guess, you know, we're pretty close to 50 percent just showing you trees here that aren't going to make it.
1:23Dale's really proud to be a maple producer. It's been in his family for generations. So this storm was really, really hard. Now, in many other situations where a business owner has been hit by a disaster, they have insurance. But that is not the case with standing trees like sugar maples. Today on the show, why trees aren't insured like other crops, and what it would take to get that insurance with extreme weather events like this one on the rise. This message comes from Vanguard. Capturing value in the bond market is not easy. That's why Vanguard offers a suite of over 80 institutional quality bond funds, actively managed by a 200 person global team of sector specialists, analysts, and traders.
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2:49So this is where we actually make the syrup in this room here. We bottle in the basement, but we, uh, this is, so this is our evaporator, and then this is our cathedral ceiling. Wow. It's tall and open and built with lumber from old maple trees. And the evaporator he's talking about takes up almost the entire room. It's this huge metal machine with all sorts of tubes and wires and knobs and buttons. And that is insured. Dale's equipment, his buildings, his final maple syrup products, even his bottles, they all have insurance. But the trees themselves and the taps on them are not insured. And none of his business exists without those trees.
3:29I tell people this one here, God's on top, my family, my trees, and then everybody else. I think of my trees. Before the storm, Dale had about 10 ,000 tappable maple trees. Those together were a huge asset. I felt like this property was worth about$600 ,000 completely set up, and now it's probably worth$350 ,000 at the most. I mean, that's just a fact. Dale's 65. He told me his retirement savings will probably have to go towards replacing taps damaged in the woods and buying a whole new stand of maple trees. And there's no insurance payout to help him with that. And this insurance issue doesn't just affect maple trees.
4:07We're talking timber companies, even big ones like Weyerhaeuser, don't have it. But you've also got smaller private landowners who own 20 or 40 acres of woods. They manage those woods for timber, then harvest and sell it for profit every few decades. And they can't get insurance either. There's a lot of people like that. About 60 percent of Michigan's timberland is privately owned. Expand that to the hundreds and hundreds of millions of acres of privately owned timberland in the U.S., and we're talking a lot of timber that isn't insured. Even most fruit trees aren't insured. Just the fruit is.
4:41I called up landowners and forestry consultants and insurance agents and kept getting the same responses. Like, I've never thought about this before, or I've never even heard of that idea. But people have been wondering about timber insurance for a while. Da Weizhong studies forest economics at Auburn University in Alabama. Actually, back in the 1930s, Congress asked the Department of Agriculture to do a study on the timber insurance because of a fire, because of a storm, and because of insects and disease. And 90-ish years later, it's still not really a thing. That's because there's just no market for tree insurance in the U.S.
5:21Dawei studied this, and he says while there's no market, there is demand. And if premiums were low enough, landowners would be willing to pay for timber insurance. And he says that magic premium number, what people would be willing to pay for, is right around 0.2 or 0.3 percent of their property value. But the market rate is much higher than that, like anywhere from 0.5 percent to 1 percent. OK, so let's apply those numbers to Dale's Maple Farm and insurance costs for last year. He could have been willing to pay the top end of that range we talked about. So 0.3 % on the$600 ,000 value of his farm pre-ice storm would come out to$1 ,800.
6:04But the market rate would have been$6 ,000. Maybe that doesn't seem like that much. But trees take years to grow and then harvest. It's decades before you see a paycheck. Meanwhile, Dawei says, you've been paying a high annual insurance premium over all those years. Dale's maple trees, for example, take 40 or 50 years to even be big enough to start tapping. And then there's the cost of actually valuing standing trees. When you have a house, a standard house, four-bedroom, five-bedroom, whatever, in a certain neighborhood, the property value is pretty much no. But for forests, it's different species, different locations.
6:45And as trees grow, they change in value every year. Not to mention, certain types of lumber are more valuable than others, and that's constantly changing. During the pandemic, there was a premium on evergreen trees like pine and cedar, so their value went up. So this kind of thing is, there's less of statistical evidence for the insurance company to collect, to justify, to judge, okay, what is exactly the damage? What species are we talking about? And how much damage are we talking about? That's why their price premium is so high. So we're stuck in this endless cycle of high premiums and low demand because of those premiums and no growth of the market.
7:27But it's not impossible. Countries like China, France, Germany, Norway, and Finland, they all have tree insurance. And there's basically a couple ways to make this happen. In the first case, you have France. Big cyclones in 1999 and then again in 2009, shredded forests there. After that, the French government basically says, for landowners, you have to pay insurance. A similar thing happened in China. The government created a market. When supply and demand don't meet, government intervention can help reduce premiums and balance things out. But government intervention can come at a cost. Here in The Indicator, we've reported on how government intervention and subsidies can distort the market and create a moral hazard.
8:09You know, farmers may take on bigger risks if they know they won't have to carry the cost if they fail. True. But you know, there is one other model for tree insurance. I'm going to call it the Nordic model. In Norway, Finland and Sweden, timberland owners formed big cooperatives that negotiated premiums on behalf of landowners and guaranteed insurance companies lots of buyers. Climate scientists are predicting more extreme weather events like this one in Michigan on the horizon. And maybe that'll get more people thinking about tree insurance. But Dao Wei at Auburn University doesn't believe it will move the needle enough to lower premiums.
8:44In the meantime, Dale Forrester and other Michigan maple producers are applying for relief from the USDA, including some money for reforesting their land. I guess we're going to plant some maples or we're going to plant some pines. Not that I'm a pine tree person. You can't put pine tree syrup on your waffles. No chance. But 20 years from now, Dale can sell some pine. And then 20 years after that, his maples will be back to full maple topping capacity. Exactly. That's the idea. And Dale and other maple producers are going to get a little help right now. They advocated for their insurers to reimburse them for their maple lines.
9:22That's all the plastic tubing in the woods that brings sap from the trees to the place where it gets boiled. Those weren't insured before. Now, a few Michigan insurance agencies are paying for some of those lines, which will help soften the blow from those ice storms. Allie Katz, thanks very much for bringing us the story. Thanks, Waylon. This episode was produced by Julia Ritchie with engineering by Kwasi Lee. It was fact-checked by Tyler Jones. Kaking Cannon edits the show, and The Indicator is a production of NPR. This message comes from BetterHelp. As a dad, BetterHelp president Fernando Madera relates to needing flexibility when it comes to scheduling therapy.
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