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21 Oct 2025 · 22m

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Rock and rule: Japan’s first female PM

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In this episode, Jason Palmer and Rosie Blau discuss several key stories shaping global politics and culture, with a focus on:

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  • Japan's new Prime Minister, Takaichi Sanae
  • The implications of America's zero migration policy under Donald Trump
  • The emergence of a fast-growing coffee chain in Germany, LAP Coffee

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0:28The Economist isn't so keen on them. His zero migration policy has been remarkably effective in stemming the inwards flow. Question is, what impact will that have? And Germany has its fair share of traditional coffee houses, but a fast-growing chain of coffee shops is stirring things up. Life Among People has stark interiors and offers super quick service. Crucially, it's also really cheap.

1:01But first...

1:08Takaiichi Sanaia, a conservative hardliner, has become Japan's 104th prime minister and the first woman to hold the job. Noah Snyder is our East Asia bureau chief. She was elected as the leader of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party earlier this month, and after a few weeks of political wrangling, she emerged in the Diet as the country's new leader today. Her confirmation marks a historic step forward for gender equality in one of the world's most patriarchal democracies. But Takaiichi, a security hawk, a fiscal dove, and an arch-social conservative, promises to shift Japan's political center of gravity to the right.

1:56She sounds like a slightly surprising choice for prime minister. How did she get to the top? She is an unusual choice for prime minister, Rosie. And I think it's the product of a moment of crisis for the LDP. In recent years, the party has lurched from scandal to scandal. They've lost their majorities in both the upper and lower houses. So now they're leading a minority ruling coalition. and they're seeing support seep to populist upstart parties across the political spectrum. And so the party was really looking for someone different. In fact, the slogan of this year's LDP campaign was quite literally hashtag change LDP.

2:37So they wanted someone who would break the mold and help to redefine the party's image with voters and hopefully reestablish its grip on Japan's politics. And what do we know about her background? So, Takaiichi hails from a middle-class family. Her parents were a police officer and a salaryman. She grew up in Nara, an ancient capital in Western Japan. So, she's not a political blue blood like many of Japan's leaders tend to be. She went to a public university. She, in fact, rode her motorcycle to classes. She played drums in a heavy metal band. She's a big fan of hard rock and an avid singer of karaoke.

3:17and she even appeared on Japanese TV early in her career, singing a hit rock song.

3:30She worked briefly as a television anchor and even appeared in some commercials on TV in the 90s.

3:43She became a kind of acolyte and really a follower of Abe Shinzo, the late prime minister, long-serving Japanese prime minister. And they shared a vision for Japan focused on sort of national pride and a sense of revival, trying to essentially say Japan is back. She, at the same time, has said that her political role model is Margaret Thatcher. So she kind of fashions herself as an iron lady, if you will. And she has ambitious plans for her country. The question is really whether she's going to be able to implement them, how long she will last in office and how stable her government will be. So she sounds like something of a populist.

4:23Is that right? I think in stylistic terms, it might be right. She's kind of brash and polarizing and plain speaking. So she has the aesthetic of many other new conservative sort of populists that we've seen elsewhere in the world. But I don't think it's right to lump her in with the MAGA types or the Euroskeptic parties that have risen in the European Union. In many ways, those parties, those forces are anti-establishment. They want to overturn the status quo. But Takeichi is very much of the establishment. She's a longtime lawmaker in the longtime ruling party in Japan. And so she's more of a kind of an old school conservative in that sense.

5:02She wants to preserve the status quo. And I think the LDP turned to her really to fend off the challenge from the true populists who are emerging on Japan's political scene. So she's of the establishment but has ambitious plans, you say. What does that actually mean in practice? So I think her vision for the country owes a lot to her mentor and political patron, the late Prime Minister Abe. So there's three components to this. One is a more hawkish stance on security policy, beefing up Japan's defenses, spending more on the security forces. Second is a kind of reprisal of Abe's economic agenda, a new Abenomics, if you will, with loose fiscal and monetary policy and a kind of nebulous growth strategy.

5:45And finally, a hardline social conservatism. While she is Japan's first female prime minister, she's probably not going to be a feminist prime minister. For example, she's lined up on the conservative side of a big culture war issue in Japan, which is whether or not to allow married couples to keep separate surnames. She favors the status quo, which is that married couples should have the same surname. And you say that national security is important to her and she's going to be spending more on it. What does that mean for her foreign policy? I think there's a few elements to this, Rosie. One is spending more on Japan's self-defense forces, the armed forces, perhaps even more than the already existing plans which Japan is pursuing to raise its share of defense spending to 2 % of GDP by 2027.

6:33The second has to do with her relations with America, Japan's key security ally, and a tricky relationship, to say the least, with President Trump in office. Takahichi bristles at the coercive trade and investment deal that Trump agreed to with her predecessor. At the same time, she knows that Japan needs America for its own security purposes. So pursuing more autonomy, a more independent stance at the same time as keeping America close. Again, a tricky dance. And the final piece has to do with Japan's neighbors. Part of Takaichi's hardline conservative worldview is a revisionist view of Japan's wartime past, a view that sees Japanese aggression in the first part of the 20th century as a response to Western colonialism and is, in the eyes of many neighbors, unrepentant for the crimes committed by the Japanese imperial regime.

7:29So that could cause big problems in the relationship with South Korea and more friction in the relationship with China. Noah, you and I have spoken on the show a number of times about Japan's political instability in recent months. Is Takaichi the person to bring stability to the country? Well, the LDP certainly hopes she is. I think they see her as the best chance to stabilize the party and the country in this turbulent moment. The logic is that by turning to Takeuchi and shifting the party to the right, they'll be able to win back voters who've been abandoning the LDP for these more populistic upstarts and essentially re-establish the party's base of power.

8:10The strategy, however, is risky. For one thing, there are big fissures between the LDP's more conservative and more moderate wings. And Takaiichi is viewed with deep suspicion by folks on the moderate side of the LDP. So those internal party tensions are likely to rise with her in office. There's also the question of the LDP's relationship to the other parties in Japan's political arena. Since Takaiichi's selection, the LDP's quarter-century coalition with Kometo, a kind of lay Buddhist party, broke down. Kometo essentially bristled at Takahichi's selection and many of the policies she stands for.

8:50The LDP managed to reinforce its coalition by bringing in a new, even sort of further right-wing partner. But the coalition politics under Takahichi are unlikely to be very stable. And finally, it's unclear whether voters are going to love this choice as well. Ultimately, I think for the Japanese public at this stage, The main concern is rising living costs and the pressure that inflation has put on Japanese households. And it's unclear whether Takaichi's economic policies will be able to deliver relief from those pressures for the Japanese public. Noah, thank you so much for talking to me. Thank you, Rosie, for having me as always.

9:44America has always been known as a nation of immigrants. Donald Trump seems to have other ideas. Since his second term began, his administration has been pursuing a hard line.

9:59ICE, that's the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, has conducted dramatic raids to hunt down illegal immigrants in several cities. It's becoming harder for foreign students to get visas too, as Stephen Miller, the president's borders are, has tried to justify. We cannot have a policy in America where every citizen of this country, whether they're looking for a job, whether they're looking for housing, whether they're looking for a government benefit in a time of need, has to compete with all of planet Earth. For nearly a century, more people arrived in America each year than left. Each year, that is, until quite possibly 2025.

10:38Trump administration's pursued zero migration with remarkable vigour. Archie Hall is our US economics editor. For all the attention on tariffs, the Fed, and all manner of pretty radical, pretty sharp economic policies the Trump administration is doing, setting migration in America to something pretty close to zero, give or take, might be the most dramatic of all this year. Archie, before we get to the consequences of this, why is Trump pursuing a policy of zero migration? Well, the Trump administration would say, and not without reason, that they were elected in large part on a mandate to get migration down.

11:16Migration had gone up a huge amount during the Biden administration, particularly unauthorized migration. So you can look at measures of encounters, which is when the border force actually apprehends or expels people who arrive at the border. And those surged during the Biden administration. They're running at around 200 ,000 a month, almost 300 ,000 a month at times, compared to under Obama or under Trump, where they're well under 100 ,000 a month, under Trump one, that is. So there was a real increase in the scale of migration under the Biden administration. And there was genuinely public backlash in 2024.

11:47You can see it in the polling, not just the presidential election results, that Americans were keen on lower migration. And how's it gone about achieving this? There's been both keeping people out and then also taking people already inside the country and pushing them out. So on the first of those, on keeping people out, they've effectively sealed the southern border. They've suspended asylum there. They've very heavily militarized it. And those measures of encounters that I was talking about beforehand have now fallen to the region of keep or take about 10 ,000, which is way, way lower than they were.

12:17They've also effectively stopped refugee arrivals. There are some exceptions, most notably for white South Africans. but by and large, they've stopped taking new refugees. And then elsewhere on the highest skilled end of the distribution, they've started going after some of the visas that import skilled workers to America. So particularly, most recently, they've gone after the H-1B visa, which is the main skilled worker visa in America, and said they're now going to charge a$100 ,000 US dollar fee on that visa. Now, there's a bit of an asterisk to that, which is that that fee probably legally can't apply to people who are already in the country and moving on to the H-1B from other visas, which is actually most of the H1B pool.

12:55So this might have a bit more bark than it does bite, but it's still probably going to affect a pretty decent number of people. You said this is one of the most dramatic policies of the Trump administration. What are the consequences going to be? Quite sharp. So you should separate out the consequences, I think, between the short term and the long term. And in the short term, we're already seeing a little bit of this and we're likely to see substantially more as it rolls on. But this is going to be tremendously disruptive. The thing people are already noticing is that the rate of job creation has slowed pretty dramatically in America.

13:26And that reflects the fact that America is an ancient society, the population is getting older. So a lot of those people who are actually available to take new jobs were migrants. And the slowing rate of migration, that's already been something that's visible. We're also likely to see and seeing early inklings of pretty appreciable disruptions in some of the industries that are most dependent on migrant labor. So those are things like construction, things like agriculture, where very, very large shares of the labour force are immigrants and often undocumented immigrants as well. That's also, though, a disruption of the sort that probably firms can cope with and deal with.

13:58And it will be inconvenient. It will hit economic growth. It's certainly not what you want to do if you're trying to gin up growth and trying to outweigh the other growth-damaging policies you're doing, like tariffs, attacking the Fed, and so on. Okay, so those are the immediate consequences. What about the longer-term effects? Immigration in general, most economists think is pretty good for productivity. The thing it does of bringing in people who are complements to the existing labour force, bringing in people who are doing jobs that make the rest of the labour force more productive, is a really economically valuable thing.

14:28And that's true at the top end of the skill distribution, but also at the bottom end. Someone needs to be cleaning the operating theatre so the surgeon can operate, and that person disproportionately may well be an immigrant. But particularly the single most dramatic impact on productivity is the people at that higher end of the skill distribution. International postdocs coming in to work at labs at universities, while the tech workers coming in to work at big software companies. And there's some pretty compelling evidence that the impact those people have on American innovation is really, really impressive.

14:55There's one paper that looks at when immigrant researchers die prematurely, and they look at what happens to the research groups they were on and see how that drops off. And by using that attempt to coarsely estimate what's going on, they get the result that about a third of all innovation in America, that's measured using patents, is either down to immigrants themselves or just as consequentially often down to the spillovers those immigrants have on their native collaborators. So the way that they make natives of the US actually more productive themselves as well. So the idea that there's a potential threat to that huge motor innovation, I think is a really serious issue for America in the long term.

15:30So if the effects are so dramatic, could or might Trump actually reverse this? There's already been a fair amount of backlash, albeit no one wants to pick a fight openly with Trump, so often kind of slightly tacit or slightly behind the scenes from some of the affected industries. And so there was a bit of a back and forth over the summer of whether ICE would be able to continue workplace raids and things like agricultural companies or meatpacking companies. But so far, that business pressure hasn't done too much. The channel that seems more likely to have an effect is public opinion. People are back to saying that net America should have more migrants, that migration is overall a good thing for America.

16:08And so the notion that Trump was elected on a mandate to pull down migration might have been true in 2024. But whether it's a mandate for what he's doing right now, often flying in the face of American's expectations about how law enforcement treats people in the case of the ice raids, does seem to be engendering a backlash. And so far, there's no real indication that Trump administration's listening to that backlash, but they could well. Further down the line, could another administration reverse this policy and reverse the damage that's been done? I think it's highly plausible that at least chunks of this would get reversed under a future democratic administration or frankly even a future republican administration the damage might be a tougher question I mean particularly if you're thinking of people who do have options to go elsewhere postdocs who could go to university in Europe just easily in America your software engineers you could start a company in their home country the idea that America is somewhere that's extraordinarily good start of business may well remain the notion that America's openness to Migration is now something that's really aggressively under question.

17:04Could do a lot of damage over the long run too. Archie, thank you so much for talking to me. Thank you.

17:24Can I get a cappuccino? Yeah, with regular milk and in the small cup rather than the big one. Walking into one of LAP's coffee shops in Berlin with my husband, I found a very sparsely furnished place with tiny tables, just a few stools, and basically not much else. Wendelin von Bredow is a coffee enthusiast and The Economist's senior Germany correspondent. In terms of service, it's fast. You know, we didn't queue for a long time. Look, there's a matcha white chocolate, wow, and chocolate chip salt. There is a small selection of pastries on offer, and basically you get your coffee, we had it to drink in, we had it there quickly, five minutes, and then we left.

18:13LAP stands for Life Among People, and it is a coffee shop that is making waves in Germany. coffee culture in Germany has really evolved Germans used to drink filthy coffee in the decades after the war they had this very thin brew called Blümchencafé which is so thin that you can see the little flowers painted inside the cups Germans also and they still do today drink most of their coffee at home or at work so they're not like in some southern cultures where going to a cafe is really sort of part of everyday life. That's not Germany or not yet, and certainly not everywhere.

18:59Why is LAP so special and why is everyone talking about it? Well, most of all, it's the price. It sells an espresso for just€1.50, a cappuccino for€2.50, and a flat white will set you back€3. euros. Everywhere else in the neighborhood, they will charge nearly double. It's a big difference and it is one thing that makes LAP very popular. Their coffee machines are fully automated. The only thing that people behind the counter do is to froth the milk and they really just provide essentials. No sauce or no spoon. They just try to eliminate all the extra costs of a coffee shop by just focusing on this one thing, which is to serve a good cup of coffee.

19:42It's very popular in particular with 20 and 30 year olds who just like the speed of it. Of course, they also like the price and they like the fact that LAP is life among people as they try to create life among people by hosting yoga classes, staging exhibitions for local artists, doing readings of new books. There's a DJ, sometimes they dance. So it's a place to meet. They try to create a community locally.

20:15But there are detractors of LAP, people who fear that this is turbo capitalism at work, that is promoting gentrification and, of course, undercutting the old coffee houses. There have been incidents where LAP staff have been insulted, graffiti sprayed on their premises. but generally it's been a huge success and one of the co-founders of LAP Coffee, he thinks that the people who are so critical have actually never been to a coffee shop and if they were to come, they would overcome their prejudice and they would become fans.

20:54My impression of LAP Coffee is that I like the coffee. My cappuccino was maybe a tiny bit milkier than what I have normally but it was very good. I would always go there for a quick coffee to go. I would never be even tempted to stay for longer because it's just not comfortable. And there are much nicer coffee shops in the neighborhood where you actually want to spend more time. So for certain moments when you just have a real need for caffeine and you want a good cup of coffee, it's great. But I actually mostly go to cafes to spend some time to meet a friend. And I wouldn't do that at an LAP coffee shop.

21:46That's it for this episode of The Intelligence. If you want to listen ad-free, you can do so on The Economist app. We'll see you back here tomorrow.

22:01Thank you.

From the publisher

Takaichi Sanae, Japan’s new prime minister, rode motorbikes and plays heavy-metal drums. Will her political ambitions be as bold? America, a nation of immigrants, is turning against new arrivals. Our correspondent explains the consequences. And a fast-growing chain of coffee shops creates a stir in Germany.


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