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Podcast Summary: The Jordan Harbinger Show - Episode 1219: Redheads | Skeptical Sunday
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Jordan Harbinger Show*, titled "Redheads | Skeptical Sunday," host Jordan Harbinger discusses the unique experiences and misconceptions surrounding red-haired individuals (gingers) with guest Jessica Wynn. This episode delves into genetics, cultural stereotypes, and the medical realities faced by those with red hair.
Key Topics Discussed
- Genetics of Red Hair
- MC1R Gene Mutation
- Causes red hair, pale skin, and freckles.
- Influences pain processing and drug metabolism.
- Red hair is a recessive trait, making it rare.
- Pain Sensitivity
- Redheads are known to tolerate electric shocks better but are more sensitive to temperature extremes (heat and cold).
- Medical treatment for redheads may need to be adjusted due to these unique pain responses.
- Melanoma Risk
- Higher risk of skin cancer due to lower melanin levels in redheads.
- Importance of sun protection and regular sunscreen use.
- Discrimination and Stereotypes
- Redheads often face bullying and fetishization.
- Cultural beliefs range from viewing redheads as witches to assumptions about their fiery temperaments.
- TikTok and social media amplify harassment, such as "ginger hunting."
- Medical Insights
- Research indicates that the MC1R gene may affect pain tolerance and responses to anesthesia.
- Notable findings suggest that redheads might metabolize certain drugs differently.
- Cultural Impact
- Stereotypes extend into popular culture, with redheads being depicted in various ways across media (e.g., *South Park*, cartoons).
- Discussion of social dynamics and the rarity of redheads leading to both fascination and prejudice.
- Redheads in Society
- Redheads constitute about 1-2% of the global population, with higher concentrations in regions like Scotland and Ireland.
- Myth about redheads potentially going extinct debunked; the gene will persist in the gene pool.
Cultural and Social Commentary
- Jokes and banter between Harbinger and Wynn highlight the absurdity of redhead stereotypes and the unusual nature of cultural perceptions.
- Personal anecdotes from Jessica provide insight into the everyday experiences of red-haired individuals, including teasing and social interactions.
- The episode underscores the contrast between getting attention (fetishization) and facing discrimination.
Conclusion The discussion wraps up by reaffirming that while redheads face unique challenges, they also possess fascinating biological traits and resilience. The shared experience of red-haired individuals illustrates broader themes of acceptance, understanding, and the complexity of human genetics.
Additional Resources
- Full show notes and resources can be found at [jordanharbinger.com/1219](https://jordanharbinger.com/1219).
- Connect with Jordan Harbinger on social media platforms: [Twitter](https://twitter.com/JordanHarbinger), [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/jordanharbinger), [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/c/THEJORDANHARBINGERSHOW).
- Follow Jessica Wynn on [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/iamjessicawynn/) and subscribe to her newsletters: [Between the Lines](https://jessicawynn.substack.com/) and [Where the Shadows Linger](https://storiesbywynn.substack.com/).
Key Takeaways
- Understanding Genetics: Knowledge about the MC1R gene can lead to better medical treatments not only for redheads but for all individuals.
- Cultural Sensitivity: Awareness of stereotypes and the experiences of red-haired individuals can foster respect and reduce prejudice.
- The Power of Conversation: Open discussions about misconceptions can help debunk myths and educate the public on genetic diversity and its implications.
This episode of *The Jordan Harbinger Show* serves as both an entertaining and educational exploration of the multifaceted lives of red-haired individuals, challenging stereotypes and highlighting the importance of genetic understanding.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Welcome to Skeptical Sunday. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger. Today I'm here with Skeptical Sunday co-host writer and researcher Jessica Wynn. On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you. Our mission is to help you become a better informed, more critical thinker. And during the week, we have long-form conversations with a variety of amazing folks from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, and performers. On Sundays, though, we do Skeptical Sunday, where a rotating guest co-host and I break down a topic you may have never thought about and debunk common misconceptions about that topic, such as Reiki healing, ear candling, self-help cults, bottled water, diet pills, and energy drinks.
0:43And if you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show, I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of our favorite episodes on persuasion and negotiation, psychology, disinformation, junk science, crime and cults, and more. That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show. So just visit jordanharbinger.com slash start or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. It's funny, Jessica, we started, I think our very first Skeptical Sunday was ear candling. And I thought, oh, here's something that some people do and it doesn't really do anything.
1:14And it's kind of a scam, but no one's going to get super upset about it. I thought this is going to be a relatively non-controversial start to Skeptical Sunday. And what amazed me, but I guess shouldn't have and is now just played out over every episode of this show, is people will die on the hill that something that they believe in is not BS. How dare you try and take away my ear candle? And you would think ear candling, like no one's, people are just gonna go, oh, I've been doing that for years. I guess it doesn't worry. Silly me, or like, I don't believe you and they'll just keep doing it. No, I got vitriolic emails.
1:46The funniest ones were from like white blonde people who were like, I'm one 7 ,000th Cherokee and this goes way back to the tribe of, or whatever, you know, Indian tribe, Native American tribe. And I remember, it's funny, because of course, we fact check these episodes. And we didn't do as much of that back then, but we do now. But then I was like, I better check this one. So I called, it was supposed to be like, oh, this goes back to the Sioux Indians. So I called this Sioux tribe. And I was like, this is so random, but I have a question. And they had this historian person be like, yeah, no, that's just one of those the many things where they say Native Americans thought of it and like dumb hippies buy it.
2:23And it has absolutely nothing to do with Native Americans. And no, we don't do ear candling. Where do these tales come from? You'll out of my dead cold ear. You'll take my candle. Exactly. And so I just thought, how funny is it that this person's like, you're offending my Native American history. And I call the authority at the tribe. And he's like, yeah, no, first of all, we'd never do that. And we don't do that. And if it's a BS and that's what you found, you're probably correct. And I remember something funny. He was like, look, we have a long and storied spiritual tradition, it's not really science.
2:52And I was just like, thank you for, I mean, this guy, why don't you, you should host Skeptical Sunday. Meanwhile, some esthetician who sells it to her clients, and again, her great-great-grandfather was 180th Cherokee, is like so deeply offended that we got a one-star review and a scathing Instagram DM. I just, it's kind of a common story with Skeptical Sunday, actually. Yeah, I don't share all the messages I get from listeners of Skeptical Sunday. Make my Sunday mornings start with a laugh for sure. So people find you, even though we don't list your contact information, and they're like, I just want to tell you how wrong you are?
3:26Yes. Sometimes they're pleasant, but often it's this is my understanding of it and your facts don't match my facts kind of things. Yeah, yeah. Your facts that you got from research don't match the facts that I have that I just know are true even though I've done no research. Yeah. Oh, well, can like I'm so interested to know and I'm wrong. Can you send me the citation? And then you never hear from them again. Right. Citation. No, my buddy told me about it and he's really smart. Yeah. Yeah. When I took Iowa Haska, they had ear candles. Yeah. Yeah. So you're wrong. Trump card research scientist.
4:02Anyway, today we're talking about redheads, a group accused of everything from being temperamental to being tied to the devil, to not doing their research on Skeptical Sunday, to my favorite, being witches who turn into vampires when they die, allegedly. Dermatologists stress over their sunburn, South Park mocks them, and yet they walk among us. So is it just about red hair? Are they magical? Are they cursed? Or are they just genetically spicy? To color in the facts, I'm joined by a redhead and friend of the show, writer and researcher Jessica Wynn. So Jess, how long have you been a witch? Well, I guess that depends on who you ask.
4:38But back in medieval Europe, it was absolutely believed that redheads are witches. But modern science says we're just genetic oddballs. So the redhead stereotype goes deeper than drinking whiskey neat and having a bad temper? Yeah, I mean, there is that, but there's a lot of cultural curiosity. Redhead, ginger, take your pick, though. Not every redhead loves being called a ginger. It can feel like a slur depending how it's used, but you and I, safe space. Right, safe space, no name calling. Except we've all heard redheads are crazy, soulless. Not me. South Park did a whole episode about it. My speech is entitled Ginger Kids, Children with Red Hair, Light Skin, and Freckles.
5:22We've all seen them on the playground, at the store, walking on the streets. They creep us out and make us feel sick to our stomachs. I'm talking, of course, about ginger kids. Ah, sick! Gross! Ginger kids are born with a disease which causes very light skin, red hair, and freckles. Ah, nasty! Yuck! This disease is called gingivitis, and it occurs because ginger kids have no souls. Kids who have gingivitis cannot be cured. Gross! Yuck! Because their skin is so light, ginger kids must avoid the sun. Not unlike vampires. Some people have red hair, but not light skin and freckles. These people are called day walkers.
6:02Like vampires, the ginger gene is a curse. And unless we work to rid the earth of that curse, the gingers could envelop our lives in blackness for all time. It is time that we all admit to ourselves that gingers are vile and disgusting. And that episode? Hilarious. Really funny. But then TikTok piles on that idea. Ginger hunting became an actual thing. People were filming themselves harassing redheads. Instagram accounts mock redheads. There's entire Reddit threads debating whether gingers have souls. It's it's a whole thing. But ginger hunting sounds less like teasing and more like a hate crime.
6:39Yeah. I mean, thank God there wasn't social media when I was a kid. I don't know if I would have survived. But when I was a kid, I got called freckled freak and the devil spawn. And that was just in elementary school. Now it's viral. I mean, I've been teased, spit on and hit on. Don't get me started on the bad pickup lines. Which one do you prefer? No, are you, is it, are you a firecracker in bed? Can I buy you a redheaded slut? Or, oh, no, it's for sure. So does the carpet match the. Okay, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yes, yes. The answers are no, no. And please just stop talking. You know, redheads are cocktails or kinks.
7:22The assumptions about redheads are wild. I've actually been asked more than once if redheads are allowed to donate blood. Side note. We are. Yeah. But just not during daylight or during the full moon, right? Right, right, right. I mean, this folklore goes back centuries, though. During the witch trial days, redheads were found unlucky, untrustworthy, even demonic. The mentality was like, oh, no, our crops failed. Clearly, the problem is the woman with the red locks. Burn her. All hair color still comes with personality stereotypes, though. Blondes are dumb. Brunettes are smart. Redheads are fiery.
7:58I don't know. Blue hair. Hate the government. I don't know. pretty much, but gingers get teased relentlessly. What Jessica Rabbit did to my formative years is, I don't know. In middle school, I was given a nickname that stuck for years. Do you want to hear it? Do I? Fire muff. Well, there goes the explicit rating or the not explicit rating of this episode. That's not a nickname. That's embarrassing. We're definitely not going to call you that on the show from now on or anything. Wow. As a kid, huh? Yikes. Yeah, try being 13 and explaining that to your mom. Did she need it explained or did she just need to know what it was?
8:37Because I feel like it's self-explanatory, is it not? Yeah, I don't know. Depends how sheltered your mom is. Moms like to spit everything. Yeah. Oh, it's nice. Like, no, they're not. They're not being nice, mom. But the teasing doesn't stop. It just hits different as an adult. you'd be shocked at the number of times I've had women in locker rooms comment on my pubic hair like no excuse me I'm just here to throw on my gym clothes not do show and tell honest wow I don't so that's strange to me I don't think guys would do that to each other I'm trying to imagine how that even goes down hey man wow nice pubes on that dong they're way too invasive way too invasive I guess that answers for us the whole carpet matching the curtains thing you didn't want to talk about before.
9:24There's cultural trauma, but let's talk. I still can't believe women are that. I figured y 'all ignored each other in there, just like we do. I mean, you talk with guys, but like the, it's sort of like, let's just all talk like we're not naked right now. That's kind of what happens in a locker room. Yeah. It'd be such an interesting observational study to see the difference in locker room. What is locker room talk? That's right. So, okay, let's talk genetics, why do redheads even exist? What makes a redhead a redhead? Well, it's about something everyone has, a gene called the melanocortin-1 receptor, or the MC1R.
10:01It tells your cells what kind of pigment to make for your hair, skin, and eyes. In redheads, the MC1R gene mutations reroute the signals and tell the cells to make very little pigment. That means red hair, pale skin and tragic sunburns. OK, so redheads are mutants then. I think the more polite term is rare. And if you've got red hair and blue eyes, that's the rarest combo on Earth. According to evolutionary biologists, the odds are zero point one seven percent. That's only about 13 million people out of the 8 billion on Earth. So what color are your eyes? Blue. Wow. You are really a freak then.
10:47Yeah. Yeah. Guilty. So why is this combo so rare? Because both traits are recessive. OK. So statistically, it's just very unlikely. You need two sets of the redhead mutant gene, one from each parent for the trait to show up. And then they each have to pass it down. That's why two brunettes can still have a redheaded baby. They both just have to be carriers. It's like a ginger lottery ticket. Yeah, sort of. The pigmentation starts with melanin, the stuff that colors our skin and hair. There's cells called melanocytes that package pigment into melanosomes, which get delivered to your skin and hair cells.
11:28Humans make two different kinds of melanin. Eumelanin, which is the darker pigments, and pheomelanin, which are the lighter ones, redheads just crank out way more pheomelanin. Which is why every redhead I know is either hiding under a parasol and or slathered in SPF-1000. Yeah, and for good reason. Melanin isn't just your color. It's like your UV bodyguard. It absorbs radiation, protects from cellular damage, and it's like a shock absorber of ultraviolet light. So without enough eumelanin, you burn fast. The process is called apoptosis, where your skin gets inflamed, blood vessels expand, and boom, sunburn.
12:11So the more pheomelanin, the faster you burn. And not only that, but this damage can lead to a lot of different skin cancers. So now I guess I'm understanding the vampire comparison, but why is there such a wide spectrum of hair and skin tones? That's probably a dumb question, but whatever. Yeah, I mean, and as far as the vampire thing, probably, you know, sunscreen's only been around since the 70s. So redheads probably did only come out at night, which sparked these rumors. Right. But the MC1R gene, it's not acting alone. So research suggests there are at least eight other genes that influence the red hair expressions.
12:48So it's not just like one switch being flipped. It's like a whole genetic circuit board. Is there any way to know what traits people are likely to pass down? There's no definitive way, but you can figure out the probability using what's called a Punnett square. It's a diagram that maps possible gene combinations from two parents. And there's so many combinations. That's why siblings don't look alike. Now, I had three siblings, but I'm the only redhead. My brother has brown hair, but a red beard. Genes just express themselves in many different ways. So I guess, what do you say, the drapes don't match the carpet?
13:26I guess for him, it would be. Yeah, so you can carry a genetic trait without showing it. Okay, yes, that makes sense. But does the whole thing with redheads go beyond skin and hair? I've actually heard redheads don't feel pain as much or something along those lines. Is that real? That sounds fake. Yeah, I mean, this is where it definitely gets weird. So the MC1R gene isn't just about pigment. It's involved in a bunch of biological processes, including pain processing. And studies show redheads, they do feel pain, but they experience it differently than other people. So redheads produce lower levels of a protein called POMC, and that protein breaks down into two key hormones.
14:10One that boosts pain perception and another that blocks it. Redheads end up with more of the pain blocker and less of the pain booster. And there's even studies that show redheads tolerate more electric shocks and stabbing pains than those with different colored hair. But at the same time, redheads are they're just they're more sensitive to thermal pain like heat and the cold. That's so weird. So you'd shrug off a taser. But if somebody opens a window, you collapse. I mean, that's pretty accurate. That's what the research says. A lot of more research needs to go into the MC1R gene. but that tracks with my behavior.
14:49And it's anecdotal, but I am always cold. But you could stitch my finger without numbing me. Like, I've done that. So a University of Louisville study suggests that MC1R gene, it over activates temperature detecting cells. So when a redhead says they're cold, grab them a blanket. They're feeling cold. But the relationship between red hair and pain perception, it's complex and it's not fully understood. And not every redhead has the same response, right? So don't go punch your ginger friend for fun. Freaky. And I mean that in the best way possible. I'm sure. And it doesn't stop there. Redheads metabolism seems to work differently.
15:32Redheads appear to have a complicated relationship with anesthesia because the MC1R gene mutation. It messes with our opioid receptors that the MC1R gene carries. I see. How are we figuring this out? Are researchers stabbing and shocking redheads? Are there ginger lab mice? Yes, there are redheaded mice. Wow. First of all, I demand a Pixar film, Finding Ginger, a feel good story about a mouse with self-esteem issues who gets into the ibuprofen. I love it. I love it. Give them Scottish accents and kilts. And I would definitely watch that. For sure. But these mice, like redheads, have higher pain thresholds because of their mutated MC1R gene.
16:14And just like in people, the difference in pigment produced meant that redheaded mice produce more pain blockers and fewer pain boosters. So it sounds like your pigment making cells are communicating with your nervous system somehow. Is that a thing? It seems to be. Yeah. And studies find that gender also plays a role. There's a lot more studies with female redheads. And women with red hair have a greater tolerance to pain than men with red hair. But you said anesthesia affects redheads differently. Why is that? Yeah, this research is a little messy. So back in 2004, there was a study that claimed redheaded women needed 19 % more desflurane, which is a general anesthetic, than other hair colors.
17:01Does that mean if you pick up a drug habit, it'll be 19 percent more expensive? Because that's a bummer, actually. I don't think so. You're like a biological choose your own adventure. That's so weird. I mean, kind of. The problem with that study, though, is that it was really, really tiny. Just 20 white women. 20. That's not a study. That's a book club. And I know people are like, well, the only redheads that there are are white women. And I hope we get into this, but that's not true. I've actually my mom taught in a school that was mostly African-American, and she said there were tons of kids with red hair.
17:34Yeah. I mean, it's just a mutated gene. It happens for no matter how dark your your skin is, it can happen in your hair expression for sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's super cool. Actually, it's super cute on kids, as you might imagine. I know. You see little African-American kids with like bright red hair. Yeah, it's adorable. But yeah, 20, a sample says a 20. Basically, you're to your point, not a lot going on there. Yeah, not a lot. And then researchers scaled up the study in 2015 and they used over 6 ,000 patients. But that study found redheads showed no significant difference in anesthesia needed. So I was surprised myself by this because my whole life I believed anesthesia was tricky for us.
18:15And that was just conventional wisdom. But there's no scientific evidence. I definitely have had doctors tell me that, but I've only needed general anesthesia once. So doctors told you that, but not anesthesiologists. So the big anesthesia conspiracy is a ginger urban legend. I'm actually surprised by how often doctors don't know anything about anesthesia. And I will tell you, in their defense, I've got a buddy who's an anesthesiologist, close friend of mine. He also says, hey, frankly, we don't actually know how all of this stuff works at every level. Anesthesia is so freaky. It really is terrifying.
18:52It's kind of like, okay, so you're an expert on this and people put their lives in your hands. And he's like, correct. I know how to administer it. I know how to solve problems with it. But once you get into how it works deeply in the brain, at least your general everyday anesthesiologist at a hospital, he doesn't know how this stuff works. Maybe people who are really big in the scientific research and can explain it better. But he's like, I'm pretty sure there's just a lot of like, we don't know exactly how this works when it comes to anesthesia. I think that's just everything with our medicine, especially our brains and genes and things.
19:25Yeah. But I mean, the thing with these studies, focusing on specifically redheads, is that they're just inconclusive at best. There just hasn't been enough solid research, though. The MC1R gene, it does mess with the body in interesting ways. It sounds less like myth busting and it's myth mutating. Yeah, I mean, for sure. Yeah. The MC1R gene and therefore redheads are still a big, weird mystery. There was a 2021 mouse study that even linked the redheaded gene to higher pain thresholds. And the researchers concluded from that that the MC1R gene also influences how we process painkillers, drugs and alcohol.
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23:22But then the effect of that wears off quicker. Ah, okay. So maybe the cheaper high that's also short-lived cancels each other out. Disregard what I said above about saving 20 % off your smack bill. Yeah, I don't know. Hopefully I won't have to find out. But I think redheads, they just have to get high more often. Yeah, that might actually explain why my redheaded friend slams this, you know, one white claw and goes from sober to karaoke in like 10 minutes. It hits them fast. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's evidence that redheads do get tipsy faster, but then they can drink for longer periods of time.
23:55So personally, I once fell out of a dental chair because the gas hit me so fast. But anesthesia, that one time I had it, it took absolutely forever for me to wake up. And back when I used to drink, I could have a six pack at the pre-party and then go out for martinis. So anecdotally, I mean, redheads seem to metabolize things differently, but it just isn't widely studied. So medicine doesn't know if redheads are superhuman or just badly wired, or maybe it's other things about you? I mean, I guess that's the debate, right? But the MC1R gene definitely affects pigment. It also definitely interacts with brain pathways for pain.
24:37And some scientists even argue the variants that affect pain aren't the same ones that make your hair red. So we just know so little, but we do know something is up with this MC1R gene. Translation being, you can't just look at a ginger and go, better double up the morphine, doc. Right. And the medical consensus right now is don't treat redheads based on hair color alone. So anesthesiologists will tailor the dose to each patient anyway, based on vitals and monitoring during surgery. It's just kind of another way redheads get the side eye. I see. OK, so you're like a super complicated lab rat. OK, but do redheads actually drink more than those without the recessive gene or is that another Irish based stereotype kind of thing?
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25:21I mean, the data points to redheads having a particular affinity for alcohol that others don't. It seems to be related to metabolism and pain sensitivity and less severe hangover symptoms. Ultimately, it's just important to understand that while genetics do play a role, tolerance to alcohol is determined by a variety of factors, not just genes. So lifestyle and body chemistry matter, too. The complex relationship between redheads and alcohol is still being sorted out. But heredity and the body's reaction to alcohol do seem to interact. But it's not like AA meetings or redhead conventions. Right.
26:01Yeah, that's true. So let me get this straight. Redheads might need more anesthesia, but less morphine, can tolerate electric shocks, but freeze under a snowflake. Do medical schools actually teach this stuff? I have to assume that they do. Yeah, they do. Med students learn that redheads respond differently to certain drugs. So, for example, topical or injectable anesthetics like lidocaine, they often work less effectively. So higher doses probably needed for your redheaded patients. But then there's that paradox that they need lower doses of opioid painkillers like morphine. So every anesthesiologist has some sort of secret ginger manual somewhere on their bookshelf?
26:41I think so. I mean, they should have a manual for every patient. But yeah, research shows the MC1R gene influences receptors all over the body. And because it's mutated, redheads react oddly to so many substances. And by studying it, scientists might actually unlock new pain treatments for everyone, regardless of hair color. So redheads are saving the world one lidocaine shot at a time, I guess. And it's not just humans, right? The MC1R mutation shows up across the animal kingdom, like cats, for instance. Male ginger cats are far more common than female ones because the orange fur gene sits on the X chromosome, zone, meaning males only need one copy, but the females need two.
27:28Ah, I came for hair trivia and I'm staying for cat genetics. Yeah, I mean, female cats with the one orange gene, they're the ones that come out the patchy calico or tortoise shell coats. But the MC1R, it's kind of like the weird gene. So overall, redheads have unusual reactions to numerous substances because that gene influences receptors all over our brain. and it makes redheads unusual in a whole bunch of ways. Like all the sunscreen y 'all use. So if you have red hair, sunblock is absolutely necessary, correct? Because of the MC1R light pigment thing? Yeah, absolutely. I call it armor. And like I said before, sunscreen only showed up in the 70s.
28:07So our redheaded ancestors were basically toast. And I feel for all my generations of redheads that came before sunscreen that that could not have been pleasant. But redheads have very little protective melanin, which is why they are at a higher risk for melanoma. And too much sun kills melanocytes. And once they're gone, the cancer risk goes way up. So this shows how much the MC1Rs effects ripple out beyond hair color. Yeah, and skin cancer risks may be one of the best-known facts about redheads. Dermatology studies show over and over that there's no question that red-haired individuals are at a much higher risk for skin cancer than non-redheaded individuals.
28:49Gingers are just more susceptible to damage from the sun, and burning just happens. Yep, nature gave you flammable skin. Pretty much. It certainly gives redheads pale skin, freckles, and sensitivity to the sun. It's like the ginger starter pack. Yeah, so does that make redheads age faster? Weirdly, yes. Bummer. A study in current biology found that people with the MC1R gene mutation, which means redheads, appear at least two years older than people who don't have it. That's not bad. And it isn't from sun damage. The gene itself seems to influence pathways tied to sagging skin and facial aging.
29:29So the studies of the MC1R gene are the first genetic evidence for perceived age. So you look older and then you get more sun damage, which makes you look even older. So if you do everything right, you only look two years older. But if you do everything like a normal person, you look 12 years older. Yeah. If you stay inside, you'll still look older. Not a lot of upside to being a ginger so far. Oh, well, on one bright side, there was a 2020 study that found redheads produce vitamin D faster and at higher levels than those without red hair. Oh, good. Because you can't get vitamin D anywhere else.
30:07Right, right. Hey, give it to me. Yeah, it's$100 for a 10-year supply of vitamin D, maybe less. I don't know. Pale skin plus the EBSI-1R means redheads have evolved to naturally make up for what they lack. So the level of D3 in someone also corresponds to how red the hair is. And the pale skin is actually an evolutionary advantage in cloudy places like where we associate red hair, Ireland and Scotland. Basically, the redheaded body makes homemade natural supplements. So like my kids' Fruit Loops, you're fortified with vitamin D. That's convenient. I am. I am, definitely. And there are more health quirks associated with red hair.
30:51According to a large review study published in 2017, female redheads have a higher risk of gynecological cancers like cervical, uterine, ovarian. And the redder the hair, the higher the risk. So one theory links it to prenatal estrogen exposure, but that hasn't been extensively tested. So, of course, you know, I think the problem here is there's no one shade of red. And these studies rely on women's own rating of how red her hair is, which is just so subjective. It's like it's got to be hard to measure degrees of redheadedness. So red hair might influence your biology before you're even born. I think so.
31:34Yeah. This is all pretty heavy so far. Tell me something fun. Come on. Well, red hair affects blushing, so redheads blush easier and brighter. Okay. Evolutionary theory says redheads developed many abilities to survive where the sun rarely shines. Insert joke about sunburned butts here, I guess. I know. Well, in parts of the world with low intensity UVB rays like central and northern parts of Europe, redheads may be seen more. I guess it makes sense that there's more redheads in Ireland and Scotland because it's just not that sunny there, like you said before. Yeah, sure. But, you know, as we know, redheads do pop up everywhere.
32:12And right now it's estimated that redheads make up about one to two percent of the world population. That may seem like a very low number, but that's about 150 million redheads walking around the world. They're not all in Ireland. But you're right that sections of Ireland, Scotland and Wales have the highest concentration of redheads. It's about 10 percent there. And there used to be a huge redhead gathering once a year in the UK, but it stopped during the pandemic and it hasn't come back. However, in the last week of August of 2025, there was a Redhead Days festival in the Netherlands. Wow. So there really is a redhead festival.
32:52That's hilarious somehow. How does something like that even start? You got to wonder. Yeah. I mean, the one in the Dutch city of Tilburg has been happening for decades. In the 80s, Dutch artist Bart Roenhorst put out an ad in a local newspaper for 15 redheads for an art project, and he got 10 times the response he was expecting, but he just had everyone who responded join in on his group photo. And now it's just turned into this free festival open to all, with the exception of the scheduled official group photo that's restricted to natural redheads. The 2013 gathering of this set a Guinness World Record for the largest gathering of people with natural red hair, with almost 2 ,000 people posing for the one group photo.
33:35Hilarious. Were you ever part of something like that? No. And in fact, I'll say I lived in Dublin for a year and I traveled all over the island. I was actually surprised at how few redheads I encountered. Really? Yeah. It just didn't seem to me to be overwhelming, but it appeared way more prevalent when I traveled around Scotland and Wales. But redheads are not just restricted to Europeans. So like I mentioned before, there's African-Americans with red hair. So where did this freaky gene originate? Is it like a Viking thing? Yeah, I was convinced there was a Viking thing at one point too. But no, Vikings do not introduce red hair, despite what every redhead Halloween costume has, you believe.
34:15The redheaded gene mutation, it actually predates the Viking age by like tens of thousands of years. I liked the idea that every redhead has a little bit of Thor blood. I thought every ginger was a little bit of an angry Norse god in the first place. They all have that rep. I'm frankly a little disappointed. Yeah, sorry to ruin the fantasy, but I mean, red hair is found among people of Viking descent, don't get me wrong, but it's not exclusive to them. Vikings were as genetically diverse as any society with early man buns and hair colors across the spectrum, blonde, brown, red. So where did the first redheads come from?
34:48Like, was there a is there a ginger Eve somewhere on the books? Not quite Eve, but yeah, genetic mutation first popped up in Central Asia about 50 ,000 years ago. Wow. And as humans migrated to Europe, they just carried the gene with them. And then in sunstarved places like Ireland and Scotland, the pale skin and red hair, it helped with that vitamin D production. And so that's what resulted in pockets of gingers thriving in the fog. I wonder how they even found that it popped up in Central Asia 50 ,000 years ago. Like, are they doing an archaeological dig and they're like, wow, look at this guy.
35:26The carpet matches the curtains of this fossil. It also seems like this information is somewhat new. I mean, I think it's just from how we can do genetic and DNA testing and fossils. Yeah. So you mentioned that vitamin D production or early vitamin D production resulted in pockets of gingers thriving in the fog. So this is like a pre-sunscreen hack to battle the sun. So it's a useful mutation. It's kept you. What does vitamin D prevent again? Is it rickets? There's a lot of hormone stuff related to it because I was deficient. Yeah, I think there's just a lot of a lot of balancing. Yeah. I don't know specifically, but we definitely need it.
36:01That is for sure. Yeah. Wow. But yeah, I mean, definitely you find redheads all over. And it was the Celts who they started in Central Europe. They seem to have a big pocket of it and they help spread the gene all around because they had a nomadic lifestyle. You know, Morocco, for example, has a much higher than average concentration of redheads. There's specific parts of Russia and even South America that have very high populations. Just redheads are found everywhere. Yeah, I've actually seen people from Yemen and Afghanistan with bright red hair in their beards. Yeah. And it's so bright that you think that's fake, but then you realize that a 60-year-old Yemeni guy running a gas station is not dying his beard red, right?
36:44He's just, it doesn't look like the type. He's just a freak, yeah. Yeah, and you see it enough where you're like, there's one place I go to that has amazing friggin' shawarma in Castroville, and it's like a Rotten Robbie gas station with a falafel shawarma place in the back that is epic, and it's run by Yemenis. And the dad has this bright red hair, and he's the guy where I'm just like, yeah, that's not fake. This guy's not dying his beard and walking around this place like that. Like, he's not the guy. But it's very interesting to see that. You see that in photos of people from Afghanistan. I've seen some Taliban photos where guys have bright red beard.
37:20Yeah, I've seen the Taliban photos too. I'm like, oh, that's why they're covering up their heads. And you're thinking like, okay, the Taliban probably also not running to the pink dot to get beard dye, right? So it's probably real. So all these old myths, I guess my point here is that all these old myths are even weirder because if redheads are everywhere and they've been around for thousands and thousands of years all over Central Asia and all over the continent of Europe. Why the superstitions? It's not that rare. It's like being left-handed. Well, I guess if you're left-handed, we should do an episode on that.
37:51Because I think also we have, there are superstitions that people who are left-handed are bad. In fact, I think you even say left in Italian, sinistra, which is like sinister, right? That's got to be related to that. Yeah, I know in the Catholic religion, you couldn't be left-handed if you were studying at the church. you had to write with your writer. Some kind of connection with the devil, which who knows where all these things come from. I mean, maybe. I don't know. That's sort of, I could see that checking out, at least in my case. Humans love to just demonize what's weird and rare. And rare, yeah.
38:26Yeah, the comedian Anissa Nandala, she actually is a bit about how rare it is to see redheads in Uganda. It's hilarious. When I first came to Australia, I didn't know anything about you guys. Like when I saw my first redhead, I lost my shit because I didn't know that you guys came in this edition. The first time I saw a redhead, his name was Stuart. And I kept staring at him because in Uganda, redheads get kidnapped by witches and used for spells.
39:02And I think he looked down on me because I was black. he was like, you must be so happy that you don't live in Uganda. I was like, no, you must be so happy you don't live in Uganda. They'd fuck you up. So, yeah, redheads just collected some truly bizarre folklore everywhere. Some flattering, some really not. So give us the flattering first. Warm us up. Okay, well, in 1886, a French doctor, Augustine Gallopin, he published a book declaring redheads were sexier smelling people. Literally, he thought they emitted a unique intoxicating body odor. Not creepy at all. Perhaps that doctor was just he maybe had a thing for redheads with B.O., which I guess back then in 1886 in France, everyone had B.O.
39:54So whatever. Is that science or is that just the musings of a horny French guy? I think everyone's guess here is the latter. Yeah, that's the kind of rigorous, peer-reviewed research we need more of on this podcast. But his myth has carried on. Today, some people still believe that because of specific skin biochemistry, redheads have a unique smell. Okay, gross. Anyway, I don't believe that. That is some people's belief. I'm just not convinced that that's specific to redheads. But I'm no horny French scientist, so what do I know? I mean, I agree with you. It's just another theory out there. But there is actually attraction data.
40:33So attraction is a really difficult thing to define, but it's real. And some people are just more attracted to redheads like that's their type. And it seems people like Jason Momoa, they assume a lot of things about redheaded behavior. Do you know a little mermaid? That was her question in my office. And I was like, ask him. Ariel. Ariel's very sweet. She's very nice. She's also a redhead, so. Yeah. I'm going to teach you about redheads someday. They're very passionate. Very passionate people. Yeah, these little comments are so common, and they can make me feel pretty misunderstood. Stick around.
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43:54That's what horny French doctors want to know. That's what the horny French doctors try to figure out. I mean, studies show redheaded women report more sexual activity and partners. There was a 2022 study that found redheads become sexually active at an earlier age and report higher sexual desires. There's a German dating app researcher that claims redheads average at least one more hookup per week than blondes or brunettes, however you figure that out. I just, I want to point out these studies all suggest that redheaded women report more sexual activity and more sexual partners. And it's because it's a fetish for some.
44:34Those who are into redheads are just super into redheads. And there's, I don't know, less supply maybe because of the rarity. I mean, maybe. I mean, I don't think that's exactly it. So researching this, I found a weird fact about redheads in the human body. So that 2022 study that looked at 110 women, 34 percent of them redheads, found that they scored higher on measures of sexual desire. They reported more sexual activity and more partners than all the non-redheaded participants. But these studies are somewhat ridiculous, so it's not entirely clear why this is the case. And the authors of it speculate that it could be due to a partner's more frequent attempts to initiate sex rather than the women's desire.
45:20So perhaps it's like a exotic novelty factor. I'm not sure. Or they just love getting down. Yeah, redheaded sluts, Jessica. Daddy chill. But according to this study, the sex lives of women with red hair were clearly more active than those with other hair colors, with more partners having sex more often than the average. And the figures revealed that typically redheads have intercourse at least one more time per week than the rest of the population. So does there are so many questions I want to ask you, but here's the question I'm going to ask you. So does that mean redheads are having more babies as well?
46:00These studies are also so bizarre because they actually show that redheaded women report more fertility issues, but also end up having more children. So they're having more sex and having more babies and scientists are mystified. OK, maybe no surprise. Some of the science dorks can't figure this one out. I can't figure this one out. I don't know. You know, I'm something of a scientist myself. At least I was back in the day. Hopefully I've shaken that reputation by now. Anyway. I mean, this all makes me a gold star redhead. I have red hair, blue eyes and no babies. So could be biology or maybe something more psychological.
46:42It's not data that has been collected enough. But not only do redheads have fertility issues, it's also reported redheads have higher rates of depression and anxiety. Wow. Redheads are high anxiety and high functioning. Maybe that's a reason some people are so into them. You sexy, aromatic, freckly, neurotic mess. Bring that pale ass over here. I will say, and I tried to find actual research about this, but as far as the depression goes, you know, in therapy, doctors like to throw you all kinds of medicine. I was prescribed at one point in my life an SSRI, which is like Welbutrin and those kind of things.
47:24It did the opposite. It did so much damage and I had to immediately be taken off of them. So when I was reading this, I thought, OK, we have higher depression rates. Is it because the medications don't work on redheads? But I couldn't find any research. That's just my experience. But, you know, there's definitely a cultural fetish. So, yeah, some guys treat it like they're collecting rare Pokemon. Like, I've always wanted a redhead. Like, it's not subtle. and I'm not interested in being the shiny Charizard. I don't know about my other redheaded sisters, but I don't want to be somebody's sexual conquest.
48:00And there are really specific studies that actually look at the rates different hair colors get hit on. Did you say Charizard? Is that a Pokemon, by the way? Yes. Ah, I guess I always thought that was Charizard, but you can tell I don't play Pokemon. Because it looks like that's the one that's spelled Charizard, basically, right? Yeah, like lizard, but I think they say it's Charizard. Charizard. I mean, who knows? I'll take your word for it. You can tell me. My pronunciation might be off. Yeah, that's going to be the one thing everybody emails me about this episode. Nothing else is going to be interesting.
48:30It's just going to be all pronunciations of Charizard. So tell me about the, you said different rates hair colors get hit on. Say more about that. What color should we all be dyeing our hair? I mean, well, it depends on the kind of attention you want, but it's true. The studies look at straight women with different hair colors and they show blondes get the most male attention, redheads a little less so. But the same men interviewed later said redheads seem less approachable. So these studies, you know, they're a bit flimsy. And I'm sorry to my redheaded brothers. I didn't come across any similar experiments with men and hair color.
49:06So redheads are bullied and fetishized. That's peak humanity right there, I suppose. And bullied in the strangest ways. Anyways, just a couple of weeks ago in Tucson, this guy went to a city council meeting and just went on this wild rant about how much he dislikes having gingers in town, how redheaded people shouldn't be allowed to have cameras. It's so wild. We got to choke every ginger in town. We can't have gingers run around Sararita. You know, we can't have gingers. We can't have people with a camera. You put a ginger with a camera. We need to get them out of here. We can't have any of them gingers.
49:43And that's basically all I got to say. All gingers should be thrown out of CeraVita. CeraVita is not the place for gingers. If we can throw out all the gingers and bring in more people like Chief Nolan, he knows what to do with gingers. We saw he knows how to handle gingers. And that's how you got to handle gingers is you put them in a headlock and you throw them to the ground and you break their camera. He had a 4K camera. None of us in Tucson can afford a 4K camera. We have to use 1080 or 720, but he had a 4K camera. You've got to break that camera. You can't let anybody with nice cameras like that around CeraVita, especially in the police department.
50:23I thank you for what your chief did, and we need more people like him. We need more people in CeraVita to choke out gingers. Wow. Yeah, I saw that. I thought that, first of all, it looks like a scene out of Parks and Rec. We'll link it in the show notes. I thought it was a joke. I really thought that he was trolling because who the hell is so anti-redhead that they speak at a town hall meeting? What the hell? I was so hoping it was a joke, but this. Yeah. You know, I mean. One of the odds that this 65, 70 year old man is able to deliver something that dry and persuasive and be ironic and not serious.
50:56Yeah. I'll definitely be avoiding the Tucson area. I mean, I just I feel so targeted. This is vitriol. True suns in Arizona. There should be no redheads there anyway, given what you just told me about the sun. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, obviously, this is a very extreme example. I'd like to think most people do not feel this way. No, but there's also an extinction myth I've heard, by the way. Is it true that redheads are slowly disappearing over time and they'll eventually go extinct? Yeah, I have definitely heard that, too. But like it or not, you're stuck with this world. It's just total nonsense.
51:30Redheads could go extinct because the MC1R gene, it's not going anywhere. There will always be some mutations and it's recessive. So even if no ginger babies show up for a while, it will appear maybe even generations later. So it's just a sneaky trait in the gene pool and it can pop up any time both parents are carriers. Genetic roulette. It's like a genetic dating app matching you with a partner that is 98 % compatible to make a child that has red hair. Wow. You're joking. But there are ginger only dating sites. No surprise. Yeah. One's called redheaddates.com. Clever. Very clever. There's a few others for people with that redhead fetish, which is just bizarre to me.
52:15Ew. Yeah. I will say, at least in my experience, you know, people who are into redheads are like enthusiastically into redheads. I don't think you need a dating app. I think you just go to a bar probably. But any dating site that defines people based on a single physical trait is gross. I tend to agree. I should probably go ahead and cancel my subscription to thirdnipplesonly.com. So you'd have to account for all the different shades of red hair, right? Like strawberry blonde, fiery red. The variables seem almost impossible to control. And then it's like, oh, I only want natural redheads. I would filter by natural or dye.
52:55Like, that's so weird. Right. And there's just so many different shades. And that's all about variations in the MC1R gene. And as I've aged, my hair shade has definitely changed. It used to be so crazy bright when I was little. Now it's a bit dulled down. And however the pigment works, redheads skip the part of hair going gray and they just fade to bright white. There's other redheaded statistics that might surprise you. Like redheads are more likely to be in commercials. What? That's a weird one. I suppose. Yeah, I know. But a 2014 report found that 30 percent of TV commercials during prime time featured redheads, despite being only two percent of the population.
53:38And at one point, CBS showed a redhead every 106 seconds. You got to wonder who measured that. That is bananas. That's great. Were you ever in a commercial? When I was a kid, I was. Oh, wow. Now that I work in the entertainment industry. I spend a lot of time on studio lots and I get a surprising amount of extra work thrown out to me for someone not interested in being an actor. So I do pop up in the background on shows like like that HBO show The Pit I was in. There's a lot of studio audience shots I get pulled into. They pull you into it. So they're like, we're filming the audience, but everyone has dark hair.
54:14Go get Jessica. Yeah. PAs will come be like, hey, do you want to sit in on this for a minute just for these you know to pan across the audience yeah they pan across the audience not in real time so yeah get pulled into it it's hilarious there's a show called platonic that recently wanted all the redheads around for a wedding reception scene because the male character was a redhead so they wanted to make it seem like the whole family was redheads which not quite how it looks in the real world but it was fun and and it was cool to see on film, just a whole room full of redheads. I wonder if there's something red hair does for our senses.
54:50Does Wendy, you know, the Wendy the Fast Food logo, does she have red hair to entice me to buy a Frosty or a burger? I mean, red is associated with appetite. So a lot of restaurant logos use the color red. That could explain the high rate of redheads in advertising. But so many cultural characters, you know, think about it. The Little Mermaid, Merida, the main character from Brave, Wilma Flintstone and her baby were redheads. And then, of course, Jessica Rabbit, Strawberry Shortcake. The list just goes on. It makes the characters stand out, at least the female ones. Not sure if that one is offensive or not.
55:27There's a lot of anime men with red hair, I think. You know, it doesn't have to all be women. Yeah, for sure. And people just seem to like it more in a female. I'm not sure why. Prince Charming in Beauty and the Beast was a redhead, though. So good thing for redhead guys. is that it's shown that redheads are funnier. Well, clowns do tend to have red hair. I actually, my nephew is a redhead. My sister and her husband, neither of them are redheads. And my brother-in-law definitely was uncomfortable with the fact that his son was a redhead. Like when he was little, just, oh, it'd be easier if it was a girl.
56:07I don't know why that stigma exists. Weird. But yeah, clowns have red hair. According to Professor Andrew Scott, who teaches the history of comedy at the University of Buffalo, we first began to see the circus clown as we know it, complete with face paint and brightly colored wigs in the early 19th century. The wigs needed to be bright so that they could be seen from the backs of these large theaters. So red was just the obvious choice. I see. It is easy to keep track of my redheaded friends and crowds. You ever go to a rave or something? You're like, how am I going to? Oh, there he is. Oh, yeah.
56:43People always find me. There's 3 ,000 people. There's 10 ,000 people here. How am I going to find them? Well, there's three redheads. I've never been lost. Yeah. I mean, we don't really blend in. And as clowns evolved, red hair just became symbolic. It reflects the cultural image of the influx of Irish immigrants in early American history because like Ronald McDonald, for example, that's spelled the Irish way, not the Scottish way. So you're not a witch. You're just designed differently. Redheads aren't cursed. They're supercharged mutants with vitamin D skills and pain quirks. Exactly. And maybe don't make fun of your redheaded coworker.
57:19She might live longer than you. But look older. She might look older, but she might feel less pain. She might be better in bed. So just be nice. We can't help it. And the research that has been done on the world's gingers indicate that they do put up with a lot and could be considered genetic superheroes. So it might not be the type of thing Marvel would take an interest in, but the bodies of redheads are incredibly resilient as their altered genes give them different DNA and by extension, a host of other unique abilities. And we don't need a radioactive animal bite. We're just born this way. Well, to all my ginger friends out there, may your sunscreen be thick and your MC1R jeans be proud.
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- The MC1R gene mutation causes red hair, pale skin, and freckles, but also influences pain processing, drug metabolism, and other biological functions throughout the body.
- Redheads experience pain differently — they tolerate electric shocks better but are more sensitive to heat and cold, requiring adjusted medical treatment approaches.
- Redheads have significantly higher melanoma risk because they produce less protective melanin, making sunscreen essential and frequent sun exposure dangerous.
- Redheads face ongoing discrimination and fetishization — from childhood bullying to adult harassment — despite red hair being a normal genetic variation affecting one to two percent of the population.
- Research on redheads' unique genetics is advancing pain treatment for everyone. Understanding genetic diversity helps medicine better serve all patients, not just those with red hair.
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