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21:50I promise that'll make all this easier. Good luck, and I hope your future father-in-law doesn't like anime or League of Legends so the topic of your sister's side hustle doesn't come up at the Christmas dinner table. Oh, and if you like this advice, consider gifting Gabriel a premium subscription to your sister's OnlyFans. As you all know, Pink Freud over here lives for some naked League of Legends. Yeah, that's me, dude. Huge video game guy, famously. I don't know, maybe if she were live streaming herself reading Civilization and Its Discontents or something, I would tune in. But if that exists, that's pretty niche.

22:21You know, something I did recently, there's an episode that's not out yet, but I did an episode about facial recognition technology with someone from the New York Times. and there was a guy in the book who his like kink was privacy stuff which is a you know whatever kink be weird what he did was he used facial recognition software to find only fans people and he would find them in real life so he'd find like their high school yearbook photo or their college photos and then find them on facebook and find them on instagram which is like their personal account where they have like pictures of their kids at disneyland and then put them out online his thing was like i know who you are oh god yeah he's like i never did anything with it But I'm like, OK, but it's still super invasive.

23:01And also because you never did anything with it doesn't mean you're not telling other people about it or that other people who are way creepier aren't doing this. Basically, it's only a matter of time before somebody hacks OnlyFans, gets all the creator content photos and they get scanned by facial recognition software, which the whole point of the software is to crawl every image everywhere of every person. That's the whole thing. Right. So you're never going to get that out of the system when it's been put in there. So if you want to launch a music career without something like this haunting you, your time is limited, man.

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25:05You can also search for any sponsor using the AI chatbot on the website. Please consider supporting those who support the show. Now, back to Feedback Friday. Okay, next up. Dear Jordan and Gabe, a few months ago, my school system hired this guy I will call Jim. We both worked in IT, and he's a great person to work with and be around, and he gets his tasks done. We've hung out with other co-workers after work for drinks and are part of a Dungeons and Dragons group. Then, suddenly, Jim stopped coming to work. A few weeks later, he told us that our HR department got a hit back on Jim's background check, and he had to be let go.

25:45Jim explained that years ago, his sister was in an abusive marriage. Her husband would do everything he could to manipulate Jim's sister and would keep communication from supportive family members to a minimum. At some point, Jim told his sister that she should consider leaving the marriage due to the verbal and emotional abuse. Her husband found out about that and became upset. One day, his sister and two nieces visited him at his house. Jim had been out hunting earlier that day and took the opportunity to teach them about gun safety. The kids never handled or touched the gun themselves. When they returned home, his brother-in-law asked where they had been.

26:22When he found out about the gun part, he called the Department of Child Services and reported that Jim was waving guns around their kids and threatening them. Basically, made a false report. The local police did their due diligence, found no wrongdoing, and dropped their end of the case. DCS didn't pursue anything either, but unfortunately, they didn't remove Jim from the potential child abuser list, which is why he was flagged on the background check by our school's HR. Since then, Jim has tried to contact every lawyer he could to see if there's anything he can do to clean a slate with DCS. All of the lawyers said the same, that DCS is understaffed, overwhelmed, and difficult to get a hold of.

27:02One of my friends, who's a judge, said that Jim will need a lawyer who can be aggressive in pursuing the information needed from DCS, but Jim hasn't found one who's both confident and affordable. What else can we do to help get Jim's slate cleaned? Signed, helping my friend clear his name after this dirty game.

27:46especially Detroit, L.A., but I know Jim's intentions were good. He just got really unlucky. Poor guy. As per usual, we wanted to get a good handle on Jim's legal options here, so we reached out to defense attorney and friend of the show, Corbin Payne. And it was interesting timing, because as it happens, Corbin just ran into this exact situation in real life with one of his cases. Apparently, this sort of thing happens a lot, which shouldn't surprise me, I suppose. There are probably hundreds, if not thousands of Jims across the country caught up in a bureaucratic nightmare like this. As Corbin put it to us, Jim's story sounds like a conspiracy theory or some lame-ass cover to explain away real abuse on his record, but it's not.

28:26DCS keeps a list of accused abusers. Corbin said the list is super private. It typically only comes up when somebody's being considered as a foster parent or something like that. Theoretically, it's unlikely to impact Jim's life very much. It probably wouldn't have come up at all if it weren't for the fact that he was working in a school system. So Corbin said there are only really two options here. Option one is Jim can let it go. Unless he has a burning desire to foster or adopt a child or to work around kids, Corbin's opinion again is that this is unlikely to impact his life. If he's down to work in IT for a bank or whatever and he's fine with that, this could just be one of those things that linger in the background but don't ever really hold him back in a big way.

29:08But this would mean that if something ever happened to any of his relatives and they left behind a child who needed to get placed with somebody, Jim's not going to be considered, which sucks, but probably and hopefully will never come up. Option two is Jim hires an attorney and sues DCS for injunctive relief. Injunctive relief is basically a type of lawsuit where you ask a judge to order another party to do a particular thing or not to do a particular thing. Now, Corbin said this is kind of a tricky thing to pull off because of child confidentiality laws. only a judge can unseal those documents and take a look at them.

29:39Jim, or even an attorney, can't just call up DCS and negotiate his way off that list. DCS employees can't even pull this information unless they worked the case in the first place, and those employees aren't the ones who make decisions about who gets taken off that list. Right, so a lawsuit sounds like the only way to write this wrong, although I have a bad feeling Jim's going to have to prepare for a very, very long road ahead, which is so sad. What a headache. But look, I hear you that Jim is having a hard time finding an attorney who's affordable, and that's really tough. So you might want to encourage him to get creative and proactive here.

30:14Maybe if he tells his story to an attorney in a super compelling way, he can appeal to their sense of justice, maybe get them to work with him a little bit. Who knows? Maybe they lower their fee for him. Maybe they let him pay in installments, whatever that looks like. You would be amazed what people are willing to do if your story is compelling and you just ask for help. If he still can't afford a good lawyer, I don't know, Jordan. I mean, I feel like at that point, maybe he starts a GoFundMe and get some help from family and friends, which now that I think about it could be a good way to both get some financial support and also put his story out there publicly, you know, go on the record with the facts.

30:49This is what happened. This is what my brother-in-law said. It is not true. Maybe that way he can control the narrative a little bit more and people and prospective employers who come across it will know that he's not actually dangerous. I don't know, just an idea to kill two birds with one stone there. And even if he raises, you know, a third of the total cost of an attorney, I imagine that would still be a huge help. Yeah, it's a nice idea. I mean, if he wants to go public with the whole thing, I like the storytelling aspect. That could be therapeutic for him as well. I wish we had better news.

31:16To quote Corbin here, this is a Kafkaesque dilemma that he's in. It's done to protect the kids, but it's really causing problems here for Jim and people like him. And that's really unfortunate. It's not right. It does break my heart that this guy lost a good job because some maniac a-hole screwed him over. But I guess them's the breaks. Time to get creative and determined. Wishing Jim the best and hope the case goes his way. You can reach us Friday at jordanharbinger.com. Please keep your emails concise. Try to use a descriptive subject line. That makes our job a lot easier. So if you're finding dead squirrels in your mailbox, your neighbors are eavesdropping on your therapy sessions through the wall, or you're wrestling with PTSD after losing all your possessions in a house fire, whatever's got you staying up at night lately, hit us up, friday at jordanharbinger.com.

31:58We're here to help and we keep every email anonymous. Okay, what's next? Hey guys, seven months ago, I left a job that had become very toxic due to a merger. Luckily, I had some long-term friends slash colleagues working at a place that had an opening that aligned with my experience. Fast forward to now though, it's a terrible fit and I hate it. I am so miserable. I'm considering looking for a new role, but I feel a sense of obligation to stay here, or else my personal relationships might be jeopardized. They posted the job and I went through the entire interview process, so it's not like they just saved me, but I still feel really bad about leaving.

32:38But I also need to do what's best for me. Help. What do I do? Signed, peacing out without damaging my clout. Good question. I appreciate that you're being so thoughtful about this. The fact that you're concerned about how this might impact the people who got you here is pretty smart, and I'm sure that that's part of the reason you had this support system in place in advance, so kudos to you for that. All right, look, if this is truly a terrible fit and you're miserable and this isn't a situation that can change by shifting your mindset or talking to your bosses or something like that, then you are well within your rights to look for a new role.

33:13If you'd only been there for two or three months, then I might say, hey man, you need to stick it out a little longer, make sure it's really not growing pains, make sure it's really not a fit. But if you've been there for seven months, you probably have enough data to know whether this is the right place for you. You might consider sticking it out for a year just to avoid having a seven-month stint on your resume. But honestly, that's usually only a liability if you have two or three of those short stints back to back because then it looks like you're the problem. And if you find another job, hopefully one you like and you want to stay at for a while, then it's very easy to tell the story of, hey, I was at this place for seven months.

33:46I was recruited by this other place I was super excited to work at, so I made the jump. Not a huge deal. That said, I definitely think it's important to protect your relationships and do right by the people who helped you. You don't owe it to them to stick around in a miserable situation just because they helped you. But I also wouldn't quit and send your colleagues an email saying, hey, I got a new job. Peace. And like never talk to them. I would reach out to these people, especially the ones you consider friends, take them to coffee, tell them you're incredibly grateful for their support, that it meant a lot, that you were really excited to work at this place, but that it's just not working out the way you'd hoped.

34:19Or maybe that you want to do something different. I'll leave it to you to decide how much to tell them. If they're fellow employees around your level, it might be okay to open up about why you're unhappy. They might feel it too. But if these friends are in management or they just love the company and they're super tight with all the higher ups, you did say they posted the job. So that makes me think they're a little bit influential there and or higher up. Then I might keep it a little more vague. You don't need to give these folks the full story. You can just communicate the basic gist and be diplomatic.

34:49Otherwise, you might end up just venting or gossiping or telling them you're leaving prematurely. Either way, though, I probably wouldn't tell them until you're 100 % sure that you're quitting and or you have a firm offer in hand from another place. Whatever you do, be gracious, be grateful, put in the work to leave this job on a great note. Don't drop all your projects and let somebody else pick up your mess. That's how you look out for yourself and be gracious towards them. If you communicate this the right way, I have a feeling they'll understand or at least they'll respect your decision. My only caveat is that if these difficult workplaces become a pattern, then I would try to figure out why you keep ending up in them.

35:26You did say your last company became toxic. So it sounds like that was outside your control. But then this office isn't great either. So that makes me wonder, you know, why aren't these places a good fit? What's going on here? Sometimes the pattern is just that we settle for questionable bosses or workplaces, or that we interact with these workplaces in a certain way, or that we don't have a strong enough set of boundaries to not let the usual workplace drama or BS get under our skin. Something doesn't have to be your fault for it to be something that you can control. And that's just another angle to consider as you make this decision.

35:58Good luck. You know what else is out of control, Gabriel? The recklessly good deals on the products and services that support this show. We'll be right back. If you liked this episode of Feedback Friday and you found our advice valuable, I invite you to do what other smart and considerate listeners do, which is take a moment and support our amazing sponsors. To learn more and get links to all the discounts you hear on the show, visit jordanharbinger.com slash deals. You can also always search for a sponsor using the AI chatbot on the website as well. You can also email me jordan at jordanharbinger.com.

36:29If you're super lazy, I will dig up the code for you. It's that important to use those codes. Thank you for supporting those who support us. It really keeps things going and makes it possible to continue creating these episodes week after week. Okay, back to Feedback Friday. What's next? Hi, Jordan and Gabe. My wife was recently approached by a ghostwriter wanting to ghostwrite a biographical book about her after seeing her deliver a keynote presentation at a major conference. The website has several testimonials and she's excited about the opportunity. But I'm skeptical. It's not that I don't want her to write a book.

37:05I think she has a fantastic story between being a woman in tech sales and losing her mother to a 13-year battle with Alzheimer's. Our wedding actually made the news because of her mom, and my wife has even been a featured speaker at Alzheimer's conferences and galas. The content is there. I'm just skeptical of the process. My wife would pay the ghostwriter between$25 ,000 and$30 ,000, and in turn would get a book and marketing services and keep 100 % of the royalties on the sales. But I worry that this guy's going to get$30 ,000 from us, and we'll just end up with a garage full of unsold books.

37:42I'm sure dozens of ghostwriters have approached you. Is this legit? Is this something you would recommend? Signed, protecting my bride from being taken for a ride by some dodgy guy who might or might not be on her side. Great question. First of all, your wife sounds like a badass. It definitely sounds like she has a great story to tell. I hope she finds a way to share it with as many people as possible. But I share your skepticism completely. I've interacted with my fair share of these ghostwriters, both legit and otherwise. So here's my brutally honest take. This is a business for the ghostwriter, obviously.

38:16He gets paid no matter what, and that's key, so remember that. The reason he thinks there's a great book in everyone he approaches is that he doesn't actually care if there's a real book in anyone he approaches. Not that your wife doesn't have a great story, sounds like she does, but that's not even relevant to this guy because it doesn't matter to him if the book sells. All that matters is that he collects his fee. Think of it this way. If this guy thought the book would make more than 30K in royalties, he would be negotiating a share of those royalties, but he's not. This play for him is about collecting a risk-free upfront fee and then moving on.

38:53And that's fine for some people. That's a business model. And I understand there are people out there who are willing to drop 30K to have a book, and they don't really care if it sells well. They just want to have a product to point to and share with people and pass down to their grandchildren or their employees or whatever. And so the arrangement works. But if you are a real aspiring author who wants to move real copies and use the book to create valuable opportunities, which it sounds like your wife wants to do, then I don't think this is the right route for her. Because so much of publishing is about marketing.

39:23And these marketing services he's talking about, it's probably meaningless. If this ghostwriter could market books really well, he would do that. And then he would want to keep a share of the royalties from those efforts, like I said earlier. Keep in mind, legit OG publishers, They choose books they think they can sell. Then they offer advances to the author to write the book. The publisher then markets the book in concert with the author. This guy is choosing books based on, I don't know, who can pay$30 ,000 for him to write it. Once he's done writing the book, actually scratch that, once he has your money, what leverage do you have?

39:58Takes too long to deliver the product? Tough rocks. Don't like the book when it's done? Tough rocks. Book doesn't sell well? Wait for it. Tough rocks. He's got your money. And yeah, you probably have a garage full of books. Also, the technical work of writing and the more businessy work of marketing are so different. It's kind of hard for me to imagine that the same person can do both of those things really well. For sure. Marketing a book, it's hard. Trust me, I get a lot of pitches from authors, both random people who self-publish and proper PR people who work with big publishing houses. And it's really difficult to position a book and get a decent media person's attention and book the interview and make sure the interview converts into book sales.

40:38And it takes a lot more than that too, right? It takes building a following online, running a newsletter, communicating with readers. I mean, this marketing thing, this is a ton of work. If it were easy to market a book, everyone would just self-publish their work and publishers wouldn't have thousands of employees, many of whom are dedicated to marketing and sales. My bet is that this guy's marketing services are just a bunch of websites, blog posts, eBooks, tutorials, stuff like that. Zoom calls that are recorded, right? Basically a bunch of websites about how your wife can market her own book based on information from 2009.

41:10And sadly, they're probably not going to do anything for her. So my take is stay away from folks like this if your wife wants to write a good book and make a real impact with that book. At best, this ghostwriter is a contractor with a narrow interest in your wife's story. At worst, he's a borderline scam artist. If your wife wants to be an author, I'd encourage her to really develop her story, work on her writing, start building her own marketing machine, which by the way, yes, it can take years and is worth the investment, then self-publish successfully or pitch a publisher. If her story is that meaningful, and it sounds like it is, she and her future readers deserve a real book written by her and or a ghostwriter who is legit and genuinely dedicated to producing something amazing.

41:55Good luck. All right, what's next? Hey guys, I have three boys. The middle one is a preteen and the oldest is a teenager. They both have had girlfriends for the past few years. The boy's mom and my girlfriend told me that I need to have the talk with them, and I agree. Yep, this is when it should happen. Probably sooner for the teenager, but better late than never. But I don't know how to go about it. I'm a first-generation Latino male, and my dad never had the talk with me. All the more reason to have the talk with your kids. This stuff shouldn't be shameful or off limits. You want open communication around this for sure.

42:33The boy's mom wants them to practice abstinence. I think it's important to be safe. My plan was to talk to them, provide them with protection, and tell them to always use it. Yep, solid plan. And to call me if they ever don't use it so I can go and get them plan B. Ooh, less solid plan. Plan B, my least favorite plan. Well, your intentions are good, but let's come back to that. My girlfriend is saying that it would be inappropriate for me as a parent to provide plan B for an underage boy to give to an underage girl in the event of an accident? Is it inappropriate? Is it immoral? Is it illegal?

43:11How do I have this conversation? Signed, a pop hoping to stop a disaster from cropping up. Well, I'm really glad you're eager to have this talk with your children. It's absolutely the right decision. So the first thing we need to talk about is what your message is going to be. You want them to be safe when they start having sex, I completely agree. Your ex wants them to practice abstinence. Obviously, these are two very different philosophies, two very different messages to receive. So my first piece of advice is, I would get on the same page with your boy's mom about what you're presenting to them so they're not getting contradictory opinions from their parents and becoming confused or conflicted.

43:48Now, there's a world where you and your ex-wife have radically different opinions about how to raise your kids in this department. And if that's the case, that I think the stance you need to take is, mom feels this way, I feel a different way, so we're gonna present you with our opinions and you get to decide. But here's why I think I'm right, and if you decide to have sex, this is the only responsible way to do it. And just to be clear about something, I'm not saying that abstinence isn't an option. If that's what your kids ultimately wanna do, they're gonna be adults soon, the teenager anyway.

44:18Where the abstinence philosophy gets dicey, in my opinion, is when young people feel ready to have sex, but they're getting a message that their sexuality is shameful or dangerous, then I think the whole never have sex thing can become weird. It can become repressive. Besides, we've all seen how well the abstinence movement has done for a lot of people. It's been a total failure in many ways based on the data that I've read. The research shows that educating kids about this is better than simply telling them not to do it at all. Now, about your plan. Definitely talk to them. Answer any and all questions they have.

44:54and try to approach this conversation with as much openness and non-judgment as you can. It's okay if it's a little awkward. You can even kick things off by acknowledging that. Like, hey, I know this is kind of weird to talk about with your dad, and maybe there are certain things you don't want to talk about, but no one ever had this conversation with me. I wish they had, so I'm happy to talk to you about this. I like your idea of providing them with protection. I think especially with young men, if they're too embarrassed to buy a pack of Trojans from a 7-Eleven or whatever, that can be helpful.

45:23although I would help them get over that embarrassment because you want them to feel comfortable buying condoms for themselves. The message there is protection is a non-negotiable. Never engage in anything without these. This is your responsibility. So here you go. The plan B of it all, oh man, I'm not too sure about that. I like your instinct to tell them that if they ever get into trouble, they can come to you. That's a really positive message, but I don't think offering to buy them plan B is the right move or even necessary. Because first of all, my understanding is that there are no age restrictions on plan B.

45:56So teenagers can buy it on their own from any pharmacy over the counter. But more importantly, I wouldn't put that on the table as an option. Like, use condoms. But hey, if you ever don't have any or you don't feel like it, just call up your old man and he'll buy you some emergency contraceptives. And oh, bro, no. The message, in my opinion, should be you always use protection. Condoms at a minimum. And if there happens to be an accident like the condom breaks and you have this backup option, but the goal is to not have to use plan B. This is in case of emergencies. Emergencies. If you're responsible, you'll probably never need it.

46:30So let's make a pact that you'll be mature and disciplined about this. That is absolutely correct. But if something ever did happen, he's asking a really interesting question. Is it appropriate to buy your child's partner plan B? I've never thought about that. Well, like I said, he probably wouldn't have to. They can do it themselves. and I don't know if it's immoral. That's for him to decide. My feeling is probably no, unless of course the girl doesn't want to take it. That's a different situation. I'm much more practical about this. This is about preventing an unwanted pregnancy. That's where my moral concern is.

47:02Although I can already hear the angry emails I'm gonna receive about that. But whether it's illegal, that's an interesting question too. We actually ran that by our boy Corbin Payne quickly and he said, well, it depends on the state, of course. Based on his understanding, I think birth control is usually considered health care. So his advice is to look at the health care laws in your state and see what, if anything, it has to say about making health care decisions for a minor who is not your child. In general, the more conservative the state, the bigger deal this would be. But again, I'm not sure why you would need to be directly involved.

47:35Any minor can buy Plan B, and they can make this decision alone or with their partner without ever involving a parent. My only other thought here is I would make a real effort to approach your kids in a spirit of openness and clarity and positivity because teaching them about the birds and the bees, that is obviously very important. But while you do that, while you explain to them condoms and birth control and sexual health and all of that, you're also going to be communicating a lot to your children about sexuality in general, you know, what it means and how to behave and what place it holds in their life.

48:08So I would also take a moment to think about how you want them to embark on this new aspect of their lives. You know, what values do you want to instill in them? What messages do you want to pass on or not pass on? What mindsets do you want them to have when they engage with other people? Wrap it up every time so you don't end up at a CVS at two in the morning pointing at the plan B awkwardly in the locked cabinet. You know, that's good advice. But in my opinion, it's just as important and maybe more important to teach them that when they do feel ready to have sex, they should be respectful to their partners.

48:39They should be thoughtful people. They should be kind. You know, they should know that communication is everything. They should listen. They should be attuned to their partners. They should understand what consent is and how it works, all of that. So make some space for that conversation too. The basic facts your kids can get from a lot of places. And the truth is they probably know a lot of it already. But their attitudes towards sex and how they feel about this part of life and how they conduct themselves with other people, that is just so important. And I think that could be another really big gift that you give them in this conversation.

49:11Good point, Gabe. There are a few sub-conversations in this sex conversation, and they're all important, but this is the one where he might make the most impact. And because no one had this conversation with him, it might be a conversation he needs to prepare for a little more. I love that you want to talk to your kids about this, and I'm glad they have a dad they can come to when they need guidance. Good luck. Hope you all enjoyed that. I want to thank everyone who wrote in this week and everybody who listened. Thank you so much. Don't forget to check out the episodes Out of the Loop with the Houthis in Yemen and Ben McIntyre on escaping from a Nazi prison castle.

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51:10Our advice and opinions are our own, and I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. Do your own research before implementing anything you hear on the show. Ditto Corbin Payne. Remember, we rise by lifting others. Share the show with those you love, and if you found the episode useful, please share it with somebody else who could use the advice we gave here today. In the meantime, I hope you apply what you hear on the show so you can live what you learn, and we'll see you next time. You're about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show about why people believe and want to believe conspiracy theories.

51:40Pretty much anybody can fall for these theories. Pretty much anybody can start watching a YouTube video. And because a lot of these YouTube videos are very, very compelling, then they get sucked into it and they start believing one thing and then they start believing another thing. It becomes very understandable that they would believe these things. It's just regular people who have just kind of got sucked down a rabbit hole. It may seem ridiculous to everybody else, but from their perspective, it makes perfect sense. They're doing it because they think they're on the side of good. So that's one of the reasons why I debunk.

52:12I want people to focus on real issues and not on the fake issues. When people start to make significant life decisions based on their conspiracy theories is where it becomes a problem. Getting out of the rabbit hole isn't just like casting away all these false beliefs. is kind of climbing up into a world that's composed of all these new real beliefs into the light, the actual real things that are going on. And you can see more clearly what's going on in these other areas because you've got the light of reality helping you there. There's harm done to the world, I think, if a significant number of people are making decisions based on things that are entirely false, things that are anti-science.

52:52My whole reason for doing this is based around increasing the amount of truth in the world, increasing the amount of facts and science in the world. But if things are left unchecked and if conspiracy theories continue to rise, there is this growing division within the country. So that could be a dangerous thing. To learn how to help our friends and family escape the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, check out episode 363 with Mick West on The Jordan Harbinger Show.