China's Cheap Goods Are Europe's Problem Now

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Podcast Summary: China's Cheap Goods Are Europe's Problem Now

Podcast Details

  • Title: The Journal
  • Hosts: Ryan Knutson and Jessica Mendoza
  • Description: A podcast exploring significant stories about money, business, and power. Co-produced by Spotify and The Wall Street Journal.

Episode Overview

  • Title: China's Cheap Goods Are Europe's Problem Now
  • Air Date: January 7, 2024
  • Description: The episode discusses China's shift in focus towards the European market for selling low-value items amid a trade dispute with the U.S. Chinese e-commerce companies like Shein and Temu have started to dominate this new market, facing opposition from European retailers and consumers.

Key Points

Surge of Chinese Goods in Europe

  • Influx of Chinese Products: The European market has recently seen a significant increase in the import of cheap Chinese goods, particularly through companies like Shein.
  • Shein's Paris Store Opening: When Shein opened its first permanent store in Paris, it created chaos with long lines of eager shoppers and protests from French citizens and retailers.

Shift in Trade Dynamics

  • Post-Tariff Shift: Following the U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods, Chinese companies sought alternative markets to maintain profitability, turning their focus to Europe.
  • Low-Value Packages: These are goods under several hundred dollars that constitute a significant part of China's exports. In 2024 and 2025, an estimated $100 billion of these packages were exported by China.

Impact of U.S. Policies

  • De Minimis Rule: The Trump administration’s closure of the De Minimis loophole, which exempted small packages from customs duties, disrupted U.S. sales for Chinese e-commerce firms.
  • High Tariffs: Tariffs reaching up to 145% made it difficult for Chinese companies to sell in the U.S., prompting them to seek new markets.

European Market Appeal

  • Underdeveloped Market: Europe’s complexity and bureaucracy previously deterred Chinese companies, but as U.S. market access tightened, Europe became an attractive alternative.
  • Infrastructure Development: Chinese firms have rapidly established logistics and warehousing networks across Europe to facilitate the influx of goods.

Local Economic Impact

  • Emergence of Small Warehousing: Individuals in Europe have started businesses by acting as small-scale warehouses for Chinese goods, capitalizing on the demand and making significant income.

Controversies and Backlash

  • Consumer Concerns: The influx of Chinese goods has sparked concerns over quality and safety, leading to protests and investigations into companies like Shein for illegal products, including a controversial sex doll.
  • Regulatory Response: Following the backlash, European regulators are re-evaluating De Minimis rules, considering new fees, and potentially closing the loophole altogether.

Future Outlook

  • Continued Demand for Cheap Goods: Despite regulatory challenges, European consumers continue to favor affordable Chinese products for their variety and pricing advantages.
  • Adaptability of Chinese Businesses: The episode illustrates the resilience of Chinese manufacturers who have successfully navigated the trade war’s impacts by diversifying target markets.

Key Takeaways

  • Economic Resilience: The shift in trade dynamics demonstrates the adaptability and entrepreneurial spirit of Chinese businesses in response to external pressures.
  • Complex Relationships: The episode highlights the intricate relationships between consumer demand, regulatory frameworks, and global trade dynamics.
  • Ongoing Tensions: As Chinese e-commerce grows in Europe, ongoing tensions between local retailers and foreign companies may lead to further regulatory scrutiny and market shifts.

Conclusion This episode of *The Journal* delves into the evolving landscape of international trade, emphasizing how geopolitical events shape market dynamics. It illustrates the resilience of Chinese enterprises and the multifaceted challenges they face, as well as the responses from local markets in Europe.

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The Influx of Low-Value Packages from China

1:40 to 7:20

Discover how tariffs on U.S. imports led China to focus on Europe as a new market.

“Coming up on the show, how Europe replaced the U.S.”

Shifting Trade Routes to Europe

7:40 to 11:20

Explore how Chinese companies adapted their logistics to the European market.

“closed its doors to Chinese goods, or at least made it really difficult to sell here, it sounds like China was able to quickly pivot to the European market.”

Controversies Surrounding Shein

11:20 to 14:02

Examine the controversies Shein faced in Europe, including legal issues and quality concerns.

“And now she spends, you know, a couple hours a day, like, packaging this stuff and sending it off.”

Investigation into Shein's Compliance

14:02 to 14:50

Learn about the investigation into Shein's product compliance with EU regulations.

“And so the Paris prosecutor's office started an investigation.”

Changes to EU De Minimis Rules

14:50 to 15:56

Explore the ongoing changes to EU de minimis rules regarding imports.

“The EU is already considering closing the loophole, but Chelsea says it's taken on new urgency in recent months.”

Market Dynamics and Shein's Strategy

15:56 to 16:43

Discuss the market dynamics and Shein's strategy amidst regulatory changes.

“is any of that going to change the dynamics that have started to develop in the market where China is just selling tons and tons of stuff to Europeans?”

Consumer Demand for Cheap Chinese Goods

16:43 to 17:55

Understand why European shoppers continue to buy cheap Chinese goods despite quality concerns.

“So it still could be more advantageous to sell into Europe because Europe does not currently have tariffs on Chinese e-commerce goods, even if you are having to pay a little bit more on customs duties.”

Impact of Tariffs on Chinese Exports

17:55 to 19:17

Analyze how tariffs have affected Chinese exports and their adaptability.

“comparable with that price, with that variety, with that ease, anywhere else.”
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0:05Over the past year, there's been a huge influx of Chinese goods into the European market. One of the biggest companies selling these goods is Shein, the company famous for fast fashion at low prices. In November, Shein opened its first permanent store in Europe, in a popular department store in Paris.

0:26Tell me about what happened when Shein opened a store in Paris. Chaos. Absolute chaos. That's our colleague Chelsea Delaney. It was chaotic because there were tons of people lining up, eager to shop. And right next to them, angry Parisians who wanted Sheen out of their city. It was intense. You know, a lot of French retailers and politicians were very upset about it. Some department store workers held a strike or held a protest. They went on strike for a day.

1:05So even just the announcement that this was coming had caused a huge stir in Paris and in France.

1:19The flood of cheap Chinese goods into Europe has been swift. And there is one very specific reason these companies are suddenly so focused there. After the tariffs went into effect into the U.S., China needed new places to sell all that stuff. It was no longer selling to the U.S. And Europe looked like the perfect place.

1:39Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Ryan Knudsen. It's Wednesday, January 7th.

1:52Coming up on the show, how Europe replaced the U.S. as China's new favorite customer.

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3:16They make vehicles, they make phones, they make laptops. There's very little in our lives that we interact with that does not have a Chinese component to it. And increasingly, one of the biggest product categories that China makes is known as low-value packages, which is basically anything that's less than a few hundred bucks. I think it's underappreciated how big a part of China's export sector has become these low-value packages. So in 2024 and also 2025, they've exported about$100 billion of these low-value packages. So it has become really enormous. Companies like Shein have sold clothes to Americans for low, low prices.

3:58I don't think I've ever had a Shein haul this big before. I just got all this stuff for literally$0. And Americans love this stuff. This is like the biggest package I've ever gotten from him before. I ordered a bunch of random things from Shein. I honestly don't even remember what I ordered. And it was only like 60 bucks, which is pretty good because I got, I want to say, 20 things. But the Trump administration did two things last year that really rocked the boat for the Chinese e-commerce industry. First, Trump announced he was going to close something called De Minimis. De Minimis is a regulatory loophole that allowed packages under$800 to be exempt from customs duties and certain taxes.

4:39It just made it very easy to ship small packages from a place like China into the U.S. because you avoided all of the hassle and the bureaucracy that comes with bigger shipments. So that's what a lot of the Chinese e-commerce companies did. So instead of sending a bulk shipment through it with a container full of, you know, a thousand shirts, they'd send a small package through the mail, and then they wouldn't have to do all of the customs declarations and pay the taxes. A lot of American companies complained that De Minimis gave foreign manufacturers, companies like Sheen and Timu, unfair advantages.

5:14De Minimis is a big deal. It's a big scam going on against our country, against really small businesses. And we've ended. We've put an end to it. The second thing, of course, was tariffs, which reached such high numbers with China last year that it made it much less profitable for some Chinese companies to do business in the U.S. The end of de minimis and the application of high tariffs on China signaled a major obstacle for Chinese companies who thrived by selling low-value packages. People thought it would be really bad for Chinese manufacturers. The U.S. is the most important market for a lot of these Chinese exporters.

5:53And the tariffs were huge. If you think back to April, some of the tariff levels were like 145 percent, just absolutely devastating for a lot of these companies. How did China's businesses that rely on these kinds of shipments, how did they respond at first? At first, this business kind of ground to a halt in the U.S. So you can see it through the trade data. You know, exports from China of these low-value packages just completely collapsed to the U.S. Some of the companies weren't even shipping to the U.S. because the customs rules and the tariffs were so onerous and they didn't even know if they were going to get stuff in.

6:36So it was very, very chaotic in the initial weeks. Timu and Sheehan also pulled back their advertising in the U.S. significantly. Gone were those omnipresent Timu ads that advertised air fryers and doormats and cleaning supplies. But that ad budget wasn't left unspent. Both Timu and Sheehan started spending it elsewhere. One thing you see very clearly through the data is there was a huge surge around the same time of these low-value packages coming into Europe. So what was it about Europe, the European market, that was attractive to Chinese businesses? Europe is underdeveloped for a lot of Chinese manufacturers.

7:18Like, Europe is famously bureaucratic, and it's a bit complicated because of all the different countries. And so, you know, a lot of Chinese e-commerce companies had just kind of focused on the U.S. because it's easier to sell there. It's bigger, it's wealthier, and, you know, Europe is bureaucratic and difficult to operate in. So I think they hadn't put a ton of resources into it until Trump's trade tensions started to make them question the U.S. So even though the U.S. closed its doors to Chinese goods, or at least made it really difficult to sell here, it sounds like China was able to quickly pivot to the European market.

7:51Yeah, I mean, I think it's been a huge shock how effectively Chinese companies have found new places to sell all of the stuff they make. Their exports to the U.S. are down about 20 percent in 2025, but they have more than made up for that by selling it to other places like Southeast Asia and in particular Europe. In a year when China's biggest customer, the U.S., put up massive tariffs, China exported more to the world than ever before. And its trade surplus passed a trillion dollars for the first time. For Chinese e-commerce companies, Europe offered a lot of the same things the U.S. used to.

8:30Consumers with money to spend and its own de minimis regulation that allowed Chinese companies to import low-priced goods largely free of customs fees.

8:44But accessing the Chinese market meant a huge shift in these companies' supply chains. Chinese businesses have had to prop up a whole new logistics network, practically overnight. Along these new trade routes, all kinds of small businesses are cashing in. It's such a vast trade network, spanning China to Europe, that it's even being described as a new Silk Road. So these Chinese companies see Europe as a very attractive market to sell their goods. How do they go about actually setting up the logistics to make this happen? Yeah. So I guess the first thing you have to do if you want to sell in Europe on an e-commerce platform is you have to get the goods to Europe.

9:24So after the tariffs went into effect, what we saw was a big shift in the air cargo market. So all of these air freighters that carry goods all around the world, they started moving their capacity to Europe. So there has been this huge explosion and air cargo moving from Europe as the U.S. route has kind of declined. And along those routes, we've seen these new cargo carriers popping up. Along the new Silk Road, there are businesses that have taken advantage of this pivot to Europe. One that's been quite successful is called My Freighter. It's based in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. And they've just seen this explosion in business.

10:06And so they're flying basically almost 9 ,000 tons of cargo every month from China to Europe. They make a stop in Tashkent and then keep going on. And so we've seen a lot of that. There's just been this huge explosion along that route. And for some of these entrepreneurs, it's been life-changing. This company might go public on the London Stock Exchange. So I think, yeah, for some of these people, this has been a real life-changing opportunity. Companies like MyFrader help get cheap Chinese goods to Europe. Once they actually get there, Xi 'an and Teemu have built up massive warehousing networks across the continent to stockpile their inventory.

10:45But demand for Chinese goods has risen so fast that there's been another kind of warehouse business popping up too. Increasingly, we're seeing this trend of what's called family warehousing. So these are really small warehouses. Often they're in people's homes. It could be in a spare room you have. It could be, you know, in a dorm room. One woman we spoke to in London actually built a shed in her backyard over the summer to store some of this stuff. She had just been looking on Chinese social media and she was just seeing all of these Chinese factories looking for places to store stuff in Europe.

11:19And she was like, what a great business. And so she built this shed. And now she spends, you know, a couple hours a day, like, packaging this stuff and sending it off. And some of these people are making really good money. Like, she was saying she can earn somewhere between three and five thousand pounds a month by doing this. And outside of that, you know, she just takes care of her kid. This has all been great for the Chinese e-commerce giants. and the businesses along their trade routes. But like with those protests outside Shein, there's also been controversy. And there was even a scandal involving a sex doll.

11:53That's next.

12:12As Chinese companies started flooding the European market with cheap goods, retailers, who are some of the largest employers there, started to worry. I think Europe also has this history of high-quality production and made in Europe, made in Germany, made in Italy, made in France. That's really important to Europe, the quality. And I think this has also very much ruffled the feathers of some of the people who think that Europe should be standing for high quality and sustainability and things like that. And as Sheehan was preparing to open its Paris store, the company was embroiled in another controversy in France.

12:52This French consumer watchdog, they put out this statement. They found illegal products on Shan's website. And they had found a sex doll that looked like a little girl. Yeah, that's when things really, really escalated. Clutching a teddy bear, this doll is around the same height as a one-year-old girl. It was being sold by the Chinese online retailer Shein as a sex doll. The country's consumer watchdog filed a complaint with the ultra-fast fashion company, prompting the product to be pulled from its site. Court here in Paris today is to consider the French government's request for a three-month suspension here of the website of the Chinese online retailer Shein.

13:38And government officials in France had strong reactions to it. Pretty immediately, France was threatening to ban Chien in France. So they were talking about banning their online platform, the website. And then it got even worse because they also found weapons, illegal weapons on the website. So things like brass knuckles, which are illegal in France. And so the Paris prosecutor's office started an investigation. They referred it to the police.

14:13European consumer groups have flagged all kinds of other products sold on Shein that are not compliant with EU regulations, pointing to things like choking hazards, toxic metals, and USB chargers that overheated. On the sex doll controversy, Shein said that it immediately took down the listings and has banned the sale of all sex dolls on its site. Regarding those other products, Shein said they were all sold by third-party vendors and that they've since been removed. It also commissioned its own tests and said it showed a higher rate of compliance for some items. A judge ruled in December that the Shein app did not have to be temporarily suspended and could remain online.

14:49Governments in Europe have also started reconsidering their own de minimis rules. The EU is already considering closing the loophole, but Chelsea says it's taken on new urgency in recent months. Europe, being the rules-based organization that it is, was moving very slowly on it. So they were saying, yeah, we're going to close the de minimis in 2028. We need to build this new data hub and we have to get the agreement of all 27 finance ministers, but we must follow the European rules, which will take three years. And then we did see a breakthrough in November. They finally said, you know, we recognize that three years is too long.

15:36We have to do something now. And so they are starting next July going to be levying this three-euro fee on the packages. And then eventually they will close the de minimis entirely. Will any of these changes, I mean, these changes to de minimis or these investigations into Shein and stuff, is any of that going to change the dynamics that have started to develop in the market where China is just selling tons and tons of stuff to Europeans? It's a good question. I think that's the question on everyone's mind because this whole network has sprung up around it. A lot of people, airports, cargo operators, stay-at-home moms have sort of made a big bet on it continuing.

16:25And so it seems unlikely that it'll go fully away. Like the warehouse network these e-commerce companies are building is enormous. So it does look like they're making a pretty long-term bet on staying in Europe. And, you know, even with the de minimis gone, and even when Europe, the EU, the UK, and the de minimis, you don't have the tariffs that the US has. So it still could be more advantageous to sell into Europe because Europe does not currently have tariffs on Chinese e-commerce goods, even if you are having to pay a little bit more on customs duties. Shein responded to a request for comment by saying it hasn't changed its strategy in Europe.

17:11The company said its competitive edge stems from its small batch manufacturing model and not the customs loophole. And there's another challenge that European regulators will face. For many European shoppers, they love all this cheap stuff. Remember that amid all those protesters outside Shein, were tons of customers waiting to get in. If you look at the sales data, people obviously want this stuff. And when I talk to people who are buying on Chinese e-commerce platforms like Shein and Timu, and increasingly TikTok shop is getting very popular here as well, they say, you know, they're quite measured about it.

17:47They know a lot of the stuff is not good quality, but they also say you cannot find anything comparable with that price, with that variety, with that ease, anywhere else. So they still love to buy it. I was down a real TikTok rabbit hole on this. And I mean, I saw people doing a haul every single day, buying like 100 items every single day and getting these massive packages. So people like it.

18:19So all of this kind of kicked off after Trump hit China with these tariffs, which is, you know, largely meant to help U.S. manufacturers, but also in some ways designed to weaken China. But it really hasn't. So what does this story say about how China has fared in the trade war? Yeah, I mean, this just goes to show, like, how adaptable the Chinese economy is. Like, yes, it is selling 20 % less to the U.S. now. That is a blow. But Chinese factories move very quickly and they are very, you know, entrepreneurial and they have been very good at finding other places to sell stuff. And so, yeah, like this sort of Chinese export machine has not been hurt by the trade war in the way that people thought it would be.

19:17It's been very resilient and very adaptable. Yes, the U.S. and China are trading less, but the imbalances that China is running with the rest of the world are just getting even bigger.

19:42That's all for today. Wednesday, January 7th. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Rebecca Fong.

19:55Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow.

From the publisher

Amid an intense trade dispute with the US, China has started looking to other markets to sell its low value items. In recent months, Chinese e-commerce companies like Shein and Temu have started homing in on Europe. But the pivot has been met with resistance by many in Europe. WSJ's Chelsey Dulaney reports on the evolving China-Europe trade dynamic. Ryan Knutson hosts.

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