In short
“The AI Prompts That Actually Move the Needle” (Bathroom Break #114) focuses on practical ways to use AI for marketing copy and lead generation, plus a brief chat about “bathroom anxiety.”
Guests
Daniel Murray (Marketing Millennials) and Jay Schwetelson (Do This Not That podcast; subjectline.com).
Key claims
(1) Use AI as a “thought partner” by having it review your ad/email copy using principles from top copywriters (e.g., Sugarman, Ogilvy, Herbert) rather than treating AI as a first-draft writer. (2) For go-to-market research, query five major LLMs (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, Grok) for the top 50 customer questions, then cross-reference to find overlapping questions; those become lead content/offer titles. (3) Add extra validation from Reddit/Quora/review sites (e.g., G2).
Notable examples
refining hooks and sections in copy; turning 4–5 overlapping questions into website/blog/podcast/webinar titles.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBathroom Anecdotes
0:45 to 2:18
Hosts share humorous experiences related to bathroom usage and anxieties.
“Like, I can't believe they just talked about that.”
Utilizing AI for Marketing
2:18 to 4:10
Discussion on using AI as a thought partner in marketing strategies.
“We got some tips and tactics and things that we are both doing that maybe you haven't heard of.”
Questions that Drive Engagement
4:10 to 7:03
Hosts explain how to generate questions that resonate with audiences using AI tools.
“Like what would Julia Child say about this chicken recipe?”
Bathroom Preferences and Quirks
7:03 to 8:20
Light-hearted discussion on personal bathroom habits and preferences.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break. That extra 10 minutes you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both. But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwetelson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. each episode in the series we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics and if you want to be in the bathroom fine just don't tell us about it thanks for checking it out we are back with another bathroom break i'm here with the jay swettleson um and i was taking him on camera today and i i was like looking at his background and like it looks pretty similar but is your camera messed up because it's like this wide angle like no i moved offices i'm in a new office i realized that after you told me that but i was just like we were gonna talk about it because i don't care so i'm in this we moved offices i'm in this new office building there's like a bunch of different companies in this building and there's a bathroom on each floor and so i can't believe i've been going to another floor to use the bathroom because i don't want to like run into people i work with and stuff and you know because we're all on this one floor my company so i've been going to another floor to use the bathroom am i the biggest loser of all time no you have like bathroom anxiety it's okay it's okay um i think i used to do that at like school sometimes to like go like the furthest bathroom away from anybody or find like that's the that bathroom i know i know some people who only go bathroom at home like they'll hold it for well how do you do that i do it at conferences i look for the furthest like you know if you're like somewhere in the exhibit hall whatever i go so far away because i'm like it's just too weird that's the worst feeling like you come out of the bathroom and like someone knows you yeah yeah yeah yeah it's the worst no first of all like well it is the bathroom break we can't talk about that.
2:10Everyone's listening. Like, I can't believe they just talked about that. Oh, well, here we are. But now we're going to get into the important stuff. We're going to talk about AI. We got some tips and tactics and things that we are both doing that maybe you haven't heard of. Maybe you haven't tried before. I got one up my sleeve, but Daniel, you want to hit it out first? Yeah. Something I've been doing lately and it's been helping me a lot is I've been writing for my ads or email copy or, um, anything I'm doing, I always take the top, let's say 10 people in the industry or the 10 people ever to do it and ask it to review based on their principles to see how I can make that thing better.
2:51So for example, if I'm going to do copywriting, I might add like sugarman and ogilvy and um helbert and famous copywriters and ask them okay how would they make the hook better give them a response how would they make this part better and i would help them they notice and i won't use it as table stakes but i will use it as a way to refine my thing like because sometimes they'll come each platform comes up with a different word or a different way of saying this or a different opening or something that makes it a little bit better. So I've been trying to use it as a thought partner, but use it with the smartest people in the room judging what I'm doing.
3:35So the reason I love that is what people have to realize about AI, it's synthesizing all of the information on the planet. So if you say, okay, I have this business idea and I want Steve Jobs to analyze it and Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and so on and so forth. They're taking every speech, every article, every quote, everything they've published, every investor call they've been on. They're synthesizing that data. And they're able, like if you use it the way Daniel said, you're able to actually get their input on that specific thing. It's an underutilized way to use AI. So that's really smart.
4:10Do you do that also like if you're cooking? Like what would Julia Child say about this chicken recipe? I mean, I don't cook. So that debunks that. But I would do it like if I'm playing tennis or something, I would say, what would these tennis coaches say about this part of the workout or that part of the workout or recovery or this or that? Because like you said, it pulls from the internet and it pulls from things. Like Ogilvy and all these people have written so many books about their process, their formula. It's on the internet. People have written articles about it. So it's not like secretive.
4:47And the key to this is using your own thoughts first. Because if you're using just their thoughts, it's going to end up being their thoughts. Or if you say, like, I want to write this about this. But he's like, you write it first, and then it helps refine it. And then you write another part, and then refine it, and keep refining it until you think it's a finished product. So that's the key. A lot of people will just use it as their first draft. I think you need to work it yourself a little bit, massage it yourself, and then put it out there. Yeah, I love that. I'll tell you the AI thing that I've been doing with a lot of my clients that's really, really cool and working well, which is simple to do.
5:31So whatever product or service you're selling, it doesn't matter, business, consumer, whatever, you're going to go to all the five major LLMs, meaning you're going to go to ChatGPT and Claude and Gemini and Copilot and Grok, all the free versions of all these tools. You're going to go on each tool and you're going to ask it the same thing. You're going to say, hey, I'm selling this product or service. And these are the type of people out there that are buying and that are interested in whatever. Can you give me the top 50 questions that anybody that's interested in this product or service or category comes to the platform and asks you?
6:10Okay? And then you're going to take the output. So you're going to get 50 questions that it gives you on ChatGPT, on Claw, on Gemini, on Grak, on Copilot. You're going to take the answer it gives you on each one. You're going to take them all, and you're going to dump them all into, let's say, ChatGPT. And you say, ChatGPT, of these questions, which ones are overlapping on all five platforms? And what you're going to find is there's going to be four or five questions that are showing up on every platform that people are asking. about your product or service. Those then should be turned into the lead content on your website, your blog titles, your podcast titles, your offer titles, your webinar titles, your consumer product, sale titles, everything.
6:54Because that is the pain point that you are solving for because that is the most common pain point that everybody's out there asking for. It's the easiest hack to figure out what it is your go-to market should be. And it takes like two minutes. I like that because not only because it's like, but also that if it if it's saying it on all lms and you cross-referencing you have the ability to possibly show up in multiple lms not just one lm because if you just took it from chat gbt you might only show up in chat gbt's lms if you're trying to get those like articles shown i might add a little flavor to it and like i like to always add like do some extra research on like Reddit and like the social platforms of what questions people are asking common questions about my industry on there, because I feel like a lot of people go to Reddit and Quora and ask some questions and review sites to go ask the question.
7:52So I like to add that into like G2 or whatever you you find and see what common pain points are there and then pull them in as well, because I think those are awesome places where people are asking or like expressing pain and those sides so i would add that just to make it a little better but i think it's i think that's such a smart idea to have it on like five different platforms and cross-reference so let me go back to the original topic since i'm a since i'm a disgusting when i go to a hotel me and wife go to a hotel you have your bathroom in your room uh which my wife takes over i say a solid 70 percent of time i will go and use the bathroom in the lobby is that weird am i a total weirdo for using the lobby bathroom instead of the one in my room are you the person that like goes downstairs at home too or like goes to a different room at home uh yes uh yeah um i think depends i think that's well i mean i I know it depends on the activity that's taking place, obviously.
9:02But, no, I know somebody who, like, for, like, five years, they lived in the same apartment together, and they would go to a different apartment building next door to go to the partner, never knew that they'd do that, and then come back to their apartment. Wow, that is weird. That's actually weird. That's actually really weird That makes me feel better about myself I mean the bathroom anxiety is Is a real thing I think like Some people get traumatized from like Childhood from that I'm not by the way talking about like going and brushing my teeth in the same bathroom I want to clarify We all know you're not talking about brushing the teeth I'm trying to clarify That your toothbrush is downstairs Yeah yeah yeah it's in the lobby I left my toothbrush in the lobby Yeah I left my toothbrush but I'll be back in 15 minutes.
9:54Yeah, I go there in my robe. Well, you've had that mistake where you didn't bring any robe. Yes, I've been caught off guard outside of my room. But another episode where we've really made sure we've solved many of the world's problems here. We're really just doing such important work. Listen, everybody leave a review, or maybe don't. I don't know. I'm scared if anybody leaves a review. Leave us a comment on Spotify. Let us know what you think, and we'll check out the next one. Daniel, come on, man. I got to get back to work. Get out of there. All right. While he's still in there, this is Jay. Check out my podcast, Do This, Not That, for marketers.
10:33Each week, we share really quick tips on stuff that can improve your marketing and I hope you give it a try. Oh, here's Daniel. He's finally out. Back from my bathroom break. This is Daniel. Go follow the Market Millennial podcast, but also tune into this series. It's once a week, the bathroom break. We talk about marketing tips that we just spew out and it could be anything from email, subject line to any marketing tips in the world. We'll talk about it. Just give us a shout on LinkedIn and tell us what you want to hear. Peace out. Later.
From the publisher
Most Marketers are using AI to generate. The ones winning right now are using it to interrogate.
Jay breaks down a two-minute tactic he's been running with clients: go to all five major LLMs (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and Grok) and ask each one for the top 50 questions people are asking about your product or service. Then cross-reference the outputs to find what shows up on every platform. Those overlapping questions are your go-to-market. Your blog titles, your podcast topics, your offer angles, your webinar hooks — all of it, handed to you by the market itself.
Daniel adds his own layer: before you let AI anywhere near your copy, write it yourself first. Then feed it in and ask AI to critique it through the lens of the greatest copywriters and strategists who ever lived. What would the legends say about your hook? Your offer? Your opening line? That's how you use AI as a refinement partner instead of a crutch — and the difference in output is night and day.
The bigger idea: AI isn't the shortcut most Marketers think it is. Used right, it's the smartest pressure test in the room.
If you want AI prompts that actually change what you ship, this is the episode for YOU.
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