In short
The episode of Bathroom Break #92 argues that even “boring” B2B brands should lean into the Super Bowl to boost engagement.
Guests
Daniel Murray (from Marketing Millennials; former D1 football player at the University of Cincinnati) and Jay Schwetelson (Do This Not That podcast; subjectline.com, “Mr. Acquired”).
Key claims
use Super Bowl relevance during the week before and 24 hours after; monitor live trends on X; add football-themed subject line elements like MVP, QB, trophy/champion emojis, and football emojis to lift open/click rates; include “wild stats” (e.g., chicken wings eaten at halftime) and cultural references.
Notable examples
geo-targeting local markets for the teams (e.g., LA Rams) with personalized subject lines/landing pages; offers like sending party food or hats; “congrats” messaging to fans.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLunch Choices and Personal Preferences
0:45 to 2:52
Discussion about personal lunch choices and habits.
“But then the other thing is my theory is if I eat really healthy during the day, then I can eat a little bit unhealthier at night.”
Transition to Super Bowl Marketing
2:52 to 3:30
Introduction to the significance of the Super Bowl for brands.
“And they couldn't, I think at the time, the NCAA laws is like you couldn't supply like lunch types.”
Leveraging the Super Bowl for Marketing
3:30 to 6:32
Insights on how brands can engage during the Super Bowl.
“And everyone's about to tune out what I'm about to say, but you shouldn't.”
Localized Marketing Strategies for the Super Bowl
6:32 to 8:34
Tips on targeting local audiences during the Super Bowl.
“And then if you really want to get into it, which is I recommend, so that way you could kind of lean in, use a little bit of wild stats that are out there as part of whatever you're doing.”
Super Bowl Viewing Preferences
8:34 to 9:26
Discussion on personal preferences for watching the Super Bowl.
“I think that's a super, I'm going to steal that idea.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break. That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both. But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwetelson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics. And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine, just don't tell us about it. Thanks for checking it out. We are back with another episode of The Bathroom Break.
0:43I am here with DJ Schwedlsen of Do This Not That podcast and Mr. Acquired. and one thing I've been thinking about a lot is you get very basic lunches sent to your place and right now he's just ordered true foods and I feel like everybody true foods is just like a national chain and what what is your order like what is your like daily lunch order that you order yeah so I have a rotation of different salad places and they're all some version of not good and the reason I get a horrible salad at lunch, usually with salmon on it, first of all, it makes me nauseous every time I eat it. But then the other thing is my theory is if I eat really healthy during the day, then I can eat a little bit unhealthier at night.
1:32But eating salmon in the middle of the day when you have like a lot of stress and anxiety and you're mixing it with coffee is so disgusting. And by the afternoon, I want to throw up on my computer. So it's not a good plan. I wouldn't copy it. What about you? What do you do for lunch? I'm into kind of the bloat of small lunch, big dinner. So I normally, Ari hates it. I do this, but I like literally get like yogurt and like, this is so bro. And I'm going to say, go bro. But yogurt, protein powder, blueberries, mix it in. And that's my lunch. Oh, yeah. Protein powder. Get that protein. Way to be.
2:13You're so millennial. So, yeah. I'm just like the. I think I was, I'm sort of a football player. That's like such a football player, like adding protein to everything to get that. Wait, can I ask you a question? So when you, for everyone that doesn't know that Daniel played football at the University of Cincinnati, D1, he was a big dude. What did you have to eat on a daily basis to like maintain weight and stuff? Everything. But we had like a limited swipes at our cafeteria. So I would go like three, four, five times a day. And then they have this, in like D1 schools, they have a fridge. And we had a fridge and like a snack room.
2:53And they couldn't, I think at the time, the NCAA laws is like you couldn't supply like lunch types. They would have like bagels but no peanut butter because that would consider a lunch. And they would have, but I would just down chocolate milk. Were you trying to keep your weight? Were you trying to get bigger? Yeah, I kept losing. I mean, I had to be like 295 and I kept getting down to like 280. That's a lot of weight. It's disgusting. I don't even want to think about that weight again, but I got to eat a lot. Speaking of disgusting, there is the biggest event in the country coming up, the Super Bowl.
3:33And everyone's about to tune out what I'm about to say, but you shouldn't. And the reason I say disgusting, I'll tell you in a second. For marketers, boring business to business brands, consumer marketers, nonprofits, profits, if you lean into the Super Bowl, and we're going to share with you how to do that, you will see significant increase in your engagement. I don't care how boring your brand is. I don't care if you hate football. It doesn't matter. And I say it's disgusting because the amount of chicken wings and pizza and times your toilet is flushed while you're watching the Super Bowl, we should all be embarrassed, mortified.
4:04It's gross. But putting that aside, Daniel, how do you feel about leaning into something like the Super Bowl, even though there's nothing like it from a marketing perspective? I think the number one thing in marketing when you're doing content is relevancy. And that's what's like more relevant than the Superbowl when it goes on. So what I, at least what I think about it, I'm going to send it from like a social content point of view. You could, you have more data back things, but I like to be heavily involved so I can take trending meme templates, trending things that are happening to use it in my content to make my content more relevant.
4:48So if this team's in the Super Bowl or this performer did something funny and it could be clippable or a fan did something, I'm always trying to figure out what's going on there. And then the best place to look during a Superbowl is like on X because X, like everything is like live tweeted there. So if you want a trending thing that's happening from the next, the week leading up to the Superbowl and the Superbowl and maybe the day after things will be trending. So that's something I think about is like, if you want to be relevant, you need to know what's happening. So be in the feed knowing and add those things, sprinkle it to your content, sprinkle it into your social game.
5:34Yeah. And so what I would be thinking about is the week leading into the Super Bowl and then 24 hours after, that is the period of time. Let's say you are a boring B2B brand because consumer brands, they get it, right? At least you should get it. But for any kind of brand, there are certain words, for example, that if you put in the first word of the subject line of your emails, you will see an engagement lift. Example, if you use the phrase MVP, like most valuable player, MVP colon, who's the MVP of your HR solutions, right? If you use QB, like quarterback, who is the QB about sales process, right?
6:14If you have a football emoji in your subject line, if you have the champion emoji of the trophy emoji in your subject line, believe it or not, and you lean into it in the body copy, it doesn't matter how boring your brand is or how cool your brand is, you will see a significant lift in your open rates, your click-through rates, because this is what's on the mind of people. And then if you really want to get into it, which is I recommend, so that way you could kind of lean in, use a little bit of wild stats that are out there as part of whatever you're doing. You just look them up and it'll say, did you know, uh, 8 billion chicken wings get eaten at halftime and also this dot, dot, dot.
6:53And then you open it up, you say something about your brand or whatever, lean into this cultural moment. And this is how you win. I don't care if you don't like football, it doesn't matter. Everybody's involved with this thing. And I think another thing you do, like carve out, um, your ICP that are in the areas of where those teams are playing and do certain targeted messaging to those type of things or offers like hey the la rams are in the super bowl like here like book a demo and get we'll send you food for your super bowl party or something like that's pretty a lame offer but i'm thinking of the spot but like said but like an offer that is around like giving something for the super bowl and hyping up that they are fans and like People like to know that you're part of that group or they're in a group and they're very proud of being in the group.
7:48So, or like send them a hat or say congrats or things like that and be hyper personalized with your content during that time. I think that's a really, really good tip. Even if you're not giving an offer, right? If you isolate out, let's say it is the Rams that make the Super Bowl. We actually should know that by the time this is airing. We don't know it yet. We'll know it by the time this airs. But let's say it is the Rams, right? and now you have the LA area. There's always data that shows that the watch rate, the penetration in the local market for the Super Bowl is like 80 % or something of all people watching TV or something ridiculous.
8:25So you really want to lean in within those geos, put in their subject line, put in the lead on your landing pages, put on your social posts as best as you could direct it within those markets. I think that's a super, I'm going to steal that idea. I'm going to do the idea because it's going, it's going to work. So I love it. So Daniel, before we wrap up here, as it relates to the Super Bowl, do you like to go to somebody else's house or do you watch it in your own or do you not care? Like, what is your vibe? I used to like going to people's houses. It depends if I really want to watch the game or not.
8:58So like, but I don't like being the one hosting. I'm not going to barbecue or order a thousand pizzas or something like that. I feel like I'm more of a tend to Super Bowl party, but I don't think I'll get invited to any of these years this year. So it's all good. That's a you problem. I get invited, but I just lie and say I'm going to another one. Say, oh my God, I would totally come, but I have to go to this other one. And meanwhile, I'm not going to another one. You're probably not watching the Super Bowl, to be honest. Oh, no, I'll watch the Super Bowl. You've got to watch the Super Bowl. Why not?
9:32Could you watch it for the halftime show or do you watch it for the game? I listen I like Bad Bunny I think I like Bad Bunny I don't know anything he's saying you're from South Florida you have to like no no but like like I I like the noise whatever I don't know what he's saying you mean like the music am I the biggest boomer of all times I just I like the noise I like the noise that's so lame whatever I have no idea alright follow everybody see you in the next one Daniel, come on, man. I got to get back to work. Get out of there. All right. While he's still in there, this is Jay. Check out my podcast, Do This, Not That, for marketers.
10:14Each week, we share really quick tips on stuff that can improve your marketing. And I hope you give it a try. Oh, here's Daniel. He's finally out. Back from my bathroom break. This is Daniel. Go follow the Mark and Millet podcast. But also tune into this series. It's once a week, the bathroom break. We talk about marketing tips that we just spew out. And it could be anything from email, subject line to any marketing tips in the world. We'll talk about it. Just give us a shout on LinkedIn and tell us what you want to hear. Peace out. Later.
From the publisher
You don’t have to like football - or even watch the Super Bowl - to win with Super Bowl marketing.
Jay and Daniel break down why the Super Bowl is one of the easiest cultural moments for any brand to lean into, including boring B2B companies and nonprofits.
They explain why relevance beats originality, how tapping into what everyone is already thinking about boosts engagement, and why sitting out cultural moments is a missed opportunity. They also cover practical ways to do it without trying too hard and share why the week leading up to the game (and the 24 hours after) is the sweet spot for performance.
If your marketing ever feels disconnected from what’s new and “in”, this episode shows how to ride the biggest moments without changing who you are.
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