In short
Midterm election warning signs for Republicans, centered on Kansas and Texas backlash against Trump-aligned figures, plus a Democratic campaign interview in Ohio’s 7th district.
Guests
Brian Poindexter, Democratic candidate for Ohio’s 7th Congressional District; a Brook Park City council member. Background described as a union iron worker, apprenticeship instructor, and local campaigner who knocks doors (about 2,000/week).
Key claims
Roger Marshall (Kansas GOP senator) is portrayed as a Trump “bootlicker” facing voter anger at the Kansas State Fair; Marshall previously worked as an obstetrician/gynecologist and allegedly pursued aggressive debt collections against former patients (including lawsuits, garnishments, and arrests after missed court dates). Tariffs are claimed to be harming Kansas jobs (including Bombardier workers). In Ohio, Poindexter is said to be polling close to Max Miller and to be running a “family” and worker-focused campaign.
Notable examples
Kansas State Fair booing/chanting at Marshall; debate exchanges on tariffs and job losses; Poindexter’s “Daughters” ad featuring his children; Poindexter’s door-to-door strategy and “lower costs day one” agenda.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Unraveling Support in Key States
0:58 to 1:28
Discussion on Trump facing backlash at the Kansas State Fair and implications.
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Trump's Unraveling Support in Key States
1:31 to 1:53
Discussion on Trump facing backlash at the Kansas State Fair and implications.
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Trump's Unraveling Support in Key States
2:41 to 3:30
Discussion on Trump facing backlash at the Kansas State Fair and implications.
“Oh my, Donald Trump just got a chilling message in a place that he least expected in Kansas.”
Roger Marshall's Controversial Practices
3:30 to 5:47
Examination of Roger Marshall's past and the crowd's reaction at the fair.
“defraud the American people yet again, I'm going to give you$5 ,000.”
Debate Highlights at the Kansas State Fair
5:47 to 8:08
Insights from the heated exchanges during the Senate debate.
“The crowd screamed, shame on you, shame on you.”
Analyzing the Political Landscape in Kansas
8:08 to 13:20
Discussion on polling and potential outcomes for Kansas Senate race.
“Now, what I found very interesting about this race also is there hasn't been a lot of polling on it, but now we're starting to see more polls and it's neck and neck.”
Ted Cruz and Ohio's Political Climate
13:20 to 14:00
Overview of Ted Cruz's reception and the Democratic candidate in Ohio.
“Pretty incredible footage right there, right?”
Interview Introduction with Brian Poindexter
14:00 to 16:04
The hosts introduce Brian Poindexter, a Democratic candidate in Ohio's 7th district.
“Now, I will share with you as well what is going down in...”
Brian Poindexter's Campaign Insights
17:39 to 22:48
Brian Poindexter discusses his campaign strategy and local issues in his district.
“Brian Poindexter, Ohio's seventh congressional district race.”
The Impact of Economic Policies
22:49 to 28:00
Brian and the host discuss the economic struggles faced by residents and the political implications.
“You pointed out when you released it, here's my first ad.”
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Addressing Core Issues in Politics
28:00 to 28:55
Learn about the basic issues that need attention to improve political conditions.
“You know, the the dark money in politics, the members of Congress trading stocks.”
Campaign Updates and Calls for Support
28:55 to 29:53
Discover how to support Brian Poindexter's congressional campaign.
“Pretty close to, you know, we're getting closer to election day.”
Campaign Philosophy and Values
29:53 to 30:37
Understand the focused and family-oriented approach of Poindexter's campaign.
“I mean, the campaign you've been running is an inspired campaign and it's worker focused and it's different.”
Transcript
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2:41Ben Meiselas:Oh my, Donald Trump just got a chilling message in a place that he least expected in Kansas. Not just in Kansas, at the Kansas State Fair where a Donald Trump MAGA sycophantic senator who's running for re-election, Roger Marshall, got booed off stage. And it's not just in Kansas, folks. It's also in Texas. It's also in Ohio. It's also in Alaska. It's also in Pennsylvania, frankly. There is no safe Republican seat anymore as Republican has gone full Trump MAGA and the American people are fed up and done with it. As Donald Trump tries to defraud the American people yet again, I'm going to give you$5 ,000.
3:36Ben Meiselas:I'm not lying this time. Just like I spoke with the Houthis, just like I spoke with Hamas, just like I spoke with Iran, the Ayatollah. Trust me, trust me. It's all going to be good. Everybody lies, lies, and more lies. So Roger Marshall, it's a very interesting fact. He's running against somebody by the name of Adam Hamilton, who's a United Methodist pastor, first time candidate, not a political guy. He won the Democratic nominee for the United States Senate seat in Kansas. He's running against Marshall and an individual who's just out there speaking from the heart right now, not a politician.
4:20Ben Meiselas:Now, Roger Marshall's background, before he was a MAGA Republican senator, Roger Marshall was a former obstetrician gynecologist, and the New York Times just did an expose. Did you see this? That court records found that Marshall sued 700 of his former patients over outstanding bills that ranged from several thousand dollars down to as little as$101. This practice routinely applied an 18 % annual interest rate. Collection methods included wage garnishments, bank account garnishments. In 81 cases, patients were arrested after missing court dates. Marshall's lawyers sought warrants for the arrest in 13 additional cases.
5:12Ben Meiselas:Some collection efforts continued even after Marshall entered Congress in 2017. This is as MAGA as you get, folks. So let me set the stage for us right now. The Kansas State Fair. Why the Kansas State Fair? That's where there is a debate taking place. And at this debate between Roger Marshall, the MAGA Republican senator, and Adam Hamilton right over here. the crowd went absolutely livid on Roger Marshall. This guy, he actually really lives in Florida. He doesn't even live in Kansas at all. And shame on you. The crowd screamed, shame on you, shame on you. The chants broke out as Roger Marshall made excuses for his medical debt collection practices.
6:04Ben Meiselas:Here, play this clip. Those are common, common business practices. We would go a year before we would ever send somebody over. Shame on you! Shame on you! Shame on you! Shame on you! Ladies and gentlemen, shame on you! Let me show you more of what was going down over here. Roger Marshall then speaks to the Kansas State Fair audience and says, who do you want solving this problem? And everybody's like, not you, not you. Watch this. Here, play this clip. Yeah, I guess I just asked the audience, who do you want solving this problem?
6:46The kid. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen, if you could please calm down and let this senator answer.
7:04Ben Meiselas:Crowd was saying, you don't even live here. Get out of here carpetbagger. Get the hell out of here. Here play this clip. I spent about 200 days voting and I spent about 135 days back in this state as well. Our state busts our tails for this state. This is all a social media myth made by the social media Nazis as well. Lifetime Kansan, fifth generation Kansan. Thank you. Mr. Hamilton. Then you had to have the Kansas State Fair moderator for the Senate debate had to tell the crowd, calm down because they were booing Trump's bootlicker in Kansas so much. Here, play this clip. And I've worked hand in hand with Bobby Kennedy to help bring these Make America Healthy Again topics back as well.
8:07Ben Meiselas:Ladies and gentlemen. Now, what I found very interesting about this race also is there hasn't been a lot of polling on it, but now we're starting to see more polls and it's neck and neck. The Democratic candidate, Adam Hamilton, seems like he could potentially win this Senate seat and the MAGA candidate can lose. I think with the right momentum and the overperformance we've been seeing in the special elections thus far, I think the Democrats are going to win in Kansas. By the way, don't sleep on the Democratic candidate in South Carolina. I think she is also going to beat Darlene Graham, Lindsey Graham's sister, who doesn't know anything about anything other than I'm going to do what Donald Trump tells me to do.
8:56Ben Meiselas:Sorry, back to the Kansas State Fair for a moment over here. Let me show you what went down as Roger Marshall says, you know where I stand. And then the crowd started booing him. Play this clip. but you're going to know exactly where I stand, then I'm going to fight to protect you, your family, and these traditional Kansas values. Thank you so much, and God bless everybody. Thank you. Chorus of Boo continues. Here, play this clip so you can see for yourself what went down. Just last weekend, my wife and I were chatting, and she suggested I share with this crowd why we moved to Great Bend. Now, I don't know about you.
9:52Ben Meiselas:The difference between MAGA Republican Senator Marshall and Adam Hamilton couldn't be clearer when it comes to price hiking tariffs. Watch for yourself over here. Look, these tariffs are working. We are expanding our export markets because of them.
10:14Mr. Hamilton, you have 90 seconds to respond. The tariffs are a disaster for everyone across the state of Kansas, whether you realize it or not.
10:21Ben Meiselas:More from Hamilton pointing out that Roger Marshall supports Donald Trump and everything, which means 1500 Bombardier workers could lose their jobs as a result of what Donald Trump's doing in Trump's attack on Canada. Here play this clip. Bombardier, Bombardier, 1500 jobs. They could lose those due to tariffs. Farmers are talking. And by the way, Bombardier uses so many American parts. Bombardier uses more American parts than Gulfstream does. Donald Trump doesn't understand how supply chains work. And those American parts don't just employ people at the Bombardier factory. They employ people at all different factories in Kansas and throughout the country.
11:06Ben Meiselas:And Bombardier employs thousands of people in the United States. Now, let me just show you. This is a incredible supercut of what went down. You can see for yourself. And then I've got a surprise for you. Here, play this clip. The Republican incumbent, Dr. Roger Marshall.
11:25I guess I could just ask the audience, who do you want solving this problem?
11:36The tariffs are a disaster for everyone across the state of Kansas, whether you realize it or not. Look, these tariffs are working. We are expanding our export markets because of them. We love Kansas. We will live here. After I'm elected Senate, I'm not going to sell my house and move to Florida as you did. It's all a social media myth made by the social media Nazis as well. That the average cost of gasoline has been less under President Trump than it was under Joe Biden. You can look it up. You can fact check me as well. If you love$6 a gallon diesel fuel, you can thank Roger Marshall. He supported this.
12:17He told us to tighten our belts because this was the cost of being safe in America. We were supposed to be out of this war after four weeks, maybe six weeks. We're six months in. Would all the people in the room that I ran, want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, raise your hand for me. Does anybody in this room want Iran to have a nuclear weapon? Well, last year when you voted for the one big beautiful bill, you gave$30 billion in tax cuts to data centers. You may not agree with me on everything, but you're going to know exactly where I stand. Whose SNAP benefits are being taken away by you. And you're saying they all have fraud?
12:50We're talking about 18 ,000 children in Kansas who lost their SNAP benefits under his leadership. And I've worked hand in hand with Bobby Kennedy to help bring these make America healthy again topics back. And courage is when you stand up to your president and your party and you say, this is hurting people back home. And you say it, even if your president's going to bully you, pick on you, primary you and call you names, you still say, this is not okay. Thank you. All right.
13:20Ben Meiselas:Pretty incredible footage right there, right? Seeing that super cut. Now let me bring you, I'm just going to show a short clip of it because it's football. And so I just don't want to show too much of it because it's on ESPN, but I'll, I'll just give you enough to know. So Ted Cruz, MAGA Republican Senator was in Austin for college game day, watching the Texas football. and Ted Cruz got booed ruthlessly while he was there. Watch for yourself. Here, play this clip.
14:30Ben Meiselas:Now, I will share with you as well what is going down in... I'll show you what's going down. Why don't we go to Ohio right now? How about not only do we go to Ohio, I have a surprise for you i want to bring in the democratic candidate in ohio right now brian poindexter he's running against max miller you know max miller who has those heinous allegations max miller who runs from his constituents ultra mega extremist max miller the latest polling has brian Poindexter at 47 % to Max Miller, 33%. So this looks like this district can flip Democrat. Also, Poindexter, he's got a really compelling story.
15:18Ben Meiselas:He did this incredible ad called Daughters featuring his three children, Ashley, Michaela, and Taylor, telling stories about their dad as they sit in front of family photos. Obviously, there's a clear contrast between him and the vile individual, Max Miller, who's currently the Congress member from that district. But I just interviewed Brian Poindexter. Let me bring him in because as we're seeing Donald Trump crash out in Kansas and Texas, in Ohio and Pennsylvania, in Ohio's seventh right here, Brian Poindexter looks poised to win this race. Let's bring in my interview with the Democratic candidate for Ohio's seventh congressional district, Brian Poindexter.
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18:08Ben Meiselas:And we even have the senator of Ohio saying that Max Miller needs to, a Republican senator, his former father-in-law, saying he needs to resign and lots of MAGA Republican senators saying Max Miller needs to resign. And we'll talk about that. But I want to talk about you, Brian, because you've got a very compelling story. Father, you're a union iron worker, apprenticeship instructor, council member, and you've been running a very compelling campaign. And I think we're seeing people in Ohio saying, you know what, we gave this MAGA thing a shot. We gave them the power. Republicans are controlling a lot of things and they've lied to us and they failed and we want to go in another direction.
18:52Ben Meiselas:And so talk to us about what you're seeing. You know this area well. You've won elections in the area. Are you seeing a shift? Talk about like what you see is going on in this area. Yeah, well, you know, election time, voters always ask themselves two questions. One, Why should we fire the guy that's in there now? And we know all the reasons why. Obviously, the allegations are serious, but the policies he supported have put us in a world of hurt, especially as far as workers are concerned here in my district. So we know why we need to fire him, but why hire me? And, you know, I'm showing people what what a real representative looks like.
19:27I'm showing up at events. I'm showing up, you know, door to door. I, you know, cut my political teeth in Brook Park. Brook Park's a scrappy city where you have to knock on every door if you're going to get the vote of the people in the city of Brook Park. and I told people when he got into this, I'm going to run a Brook Park style campaign where I'm going to meet people where they are. You know, we're averaging 2000 doors a week and that's ramping up. And, you know, just, you know, I have the lived experience of the average person in our district and I resonate with them on a level that they can understand because I'm just like the guy next door.
20:04And that's given us real strength and built real momentum in this race.
20:07Ben Meiselas:Talk about that lived experience because people are getting crushed right now across this country. And you zoom in on areas like Brook Park and, you know, you see a story of an American dream quite literally stolen. And it's like literally ripped apart, you know, whether it's their health care being ripped apart, you know, their money being ripped apart, you know, taken out, you know, and going to Trump and Trump's friends and his rich oligarchs, you know. And, you know, you hear Donald Trump and people like Max Miller. We promise you this time, we know we've been saying we're going to give you$5 ,000 the last time if you vote for us.
20:51Ben Meiselas:And we didn't do it. And then we promised you it again. We didn't do it, but this time, we're not even going to talk about policy. We're just going to straight up bribe you. Okay, we're going to give you$5 ,000 if you vote for us this one time. And it's like you stole people's bread. Now you're dangling the breadcrumbs that you're not even going to give them right now. And that's their closing message, basically, is that we're going to defraud you again, Ohio. We're going to talk about the shared experience, though, what people are seeing. What do you see when you knock on doors? What are people experiencing?
21:23Ben Meiselas:What are the pain points there? I'm sure there are many. Oh, there's so many. And, you know, they're all economically driven. You know, people are working harder and harder and getting less for it. You know, you know, I'm old enough to remember time where one income could support entire your whole family. And, you know, now two incomes aren't even enough to make ends meet in that family. And, you know, it's it it all ties back to the corruption at the federal level. you know, the wealthiest and well-connected among us are living a great, having a great time at our expense. You know, all the tax breaks go to them, to the wealthy, to the corporations.
22:02And it's, you know, working people are left paying the tab for that. You know, we see it in rising gas prices. We see it in rising grocery prices. We see it in stagnating wages. And people are tired of politicians in Washington not hearing them. And, you know, that you brought up the$5 ,000 promise. You know, it just shows that, you know, they're finally hearing the pleas that people need relief. Unfortunately, you know, people don't want that one-time handout. They want to be able to make a living doing the work they do enough to support their family. And, you know, I'm going to support that at every opportunity.
22:44Ben Meiselas:Talk about this ad that you just released. And I saw the TMZ report about how Max Miller's dodging questions about this ad. You pointed out when you released it, here's my first ad. And you were saying how, you know, you did this for all of the running for Congress to fight for my daughters and yours. So in my first ad, I decided to turn my mic over to them. It was a great, I mean, it's a great piece. And, you know, to me, with all of this gamified politics that happens before an election and people just throwing all this nastiness out there to try to obscure and confuse, I always like to say, at the end of the day, this is about like your family.
23:25Ben Meiselas:I think this is about, you know, how are we living our lives and what's and pull back and be like, what's the point of all of this is the point of all of this so that we can wake up and then be non consensual extras in some dystopian reality show with some psychotic maniac in Washington behaving like like like a crazy person. Oh, do you see the crazy thing he did today? Oh, my God. Is he screwing with our gas prices or is he screwing with our health care? I'm like, it's about our daughters, my daughter, your daughters. It's about our families. It's about our future generations, about hoping to make human connections like that's life.
24:04Ben Meiselas:Like and we have to get out of this bizarro freaking world. And to me, that's what you know, why your ad resonated with me. So talk to me about that. Well, my daughters had fun with that ad and they make fun of their dad all the time. So why not do it on camera? But it really was just a good opportunity to give people a window into my life, what I've been fighting for, what I've been working for all these years and the type of representative I'll be. You know, I'm literally the guy next door, the guy down the street helped the old lady with his with the garbage. And, you know, I wanted to highlight that, you know, and people were like, well, you made this ad to put a mirror up to Max Miller.
24:43And like, no, I didn't. I did it to give people a view of my daily life and the love I have for my daughters and how much they love their dad. If it holds a mirror up to Max Miller, that's something he's got to worry about. You know, I didn't, you know, my whole campaign is built on a message of positivity, built on a message of uniting people, because the only way we're going to get out of this mess is together. We can we can continue to chase the chaos of the day from the administration and from this Republican held legislature. But at the end of the day, people people long for community again.
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25:18People are tired of turning their backs on family over politics, turning their backs on friends over politicians. And I hope to show people a different way. And that's kind of what that ad speaks to. Right.
25:31Ben Meiselas:And I think here's the moment that we're in. I think people know that Donald Trump is an awful, putrid, fraudulent, felon, horrible human being. I mean, I think that it's revealed even to his former base. I think they look at him. This is my view. I think they look at him and they go, you betrayed us. I think they look at someone like a Max Miller and they go awful human being, just awful human being. But then they look at the Democrats and they're saying, OK, do not bring us back, though, to just the status quo before this, because you're just going to bring in Trump's and Max Miller's. So don't bullshit me right now and tell me what you're going to actually do that moves us forward and actually fights for these things.
26:17Ben Meiselas:Because we were promised a whole bunch of things from these MAGAs and they didn't deliver. But if there was lower gas prices, if we could afford homes, if we could have no more never-ending wars, some of that stuff appeals to us. We like that. So can we do that? Can you actually fight for us and move us in a direction forward versus the seesaw cycles that you and I were around the same age? We know how we got here. Trump's awful, but he's a vessel from a lot of what we're seeing, just like you see in Ohio. You know, over time, it's just gotten worse and worse and worse to the point where people are like, all right, we got to change it.
26:56Ben Meiselas:But what does that mean directionally? Right. And so I think we're in what are you going to do for me? you know, people are saying, you know, Brian, what, how are you going to change the game? So I'll let you deliver that final message before we go, which is, you know, what are you going to do? You know, how, how is this going to be different? How is this not just a return to politics as usual? And we get rid of an awful Max Miller. We get a family man, Brian, but you know, it's still politics in DC. How can you assure the voters this is different? Well, the first thing I'm not going to do is I'm not going to, you know, win this race and go on a revenge tour for all the crazy things that we've seen over the past few years.
27:32You know, because there's a lot of people that, you know, that voted for Trump and voted for Miller who are, you know, who are hurting under the policies that they brought forward. It's almost like an ex-girlfriend, right? You just kind of move forward. Don't live in the past. So and what I want to do is I want to help lower costs day one by fighting to get us out of the war that's driven up costs on families. I want to end the blanket tariffs that driven up the costs on families. And I really want to end the corruption that has enabled all of it. You know, the the dark money in politics, the members of Congress trading stocks.
28:09You know, Max Miller has partake partake in all that. And and, you know, that's we got to get back to the basics. You know, there's a lot of things, a lot of fires burning. And, you know, in my life, when things are getting overwhelming, I kind of focus on the basic. You know, I got to pay my mortgage first. I got to make sure my car payment's paid. And that's what we needed. That's the approach I'm going to bring to Congress. We need to, you know, strengthen collective bargaining rights so workers can make a good wage and benefits again. We need to lift the minimum wage up so people are actually making a real living.
28:37You know, we got to save Social Security so our retirees can retire with dignity. And I think if we get to the basics, allow, give some relief to people in their pockets and their personal life, then we can, a lot of the other issues will kind of solve themselves because people will have the means to fight for them.
28:54Ben Meiselas:Brian, where can people learn more about the campaign? Pretty close to, you know, we're getting closer to election day. I mean, I'm looking at the calendar and it's right around the corner. If people want to learn more about you, where do they go? Real easy. You can go to poindexterforcongress.com and you can read my backstory, read my bio, see my policy positions, watch our videos. But we're also on every every platform on social media. You can find us on anyone. Just type in Brian Poindexter for Congress. It'll come right up. But I really encourage you to, you know, take a real good hard look, volunteer if you can, donate if you can, because while we have a lot of momentum in this race, my opponent did drop a million dollars of his own cash to try to buy his way out of his troubles.
29:42And I can use all the help I can get. When you watch the ads, you'll see they're great ads, but we need help keeping them up on the air all the way through the cycle. So hopefully you're willing to do that.
29:52Ben Meiselas:Yeah, look, the ads are great. I do want to say this though. I mean, the campaign you've been running is an inspired campaign and it's worker focused and it's different. It looks different. It feels different than other campaigns that in a good way, you know, and connecting it and rooting it in family and common core values and principles is something that we talk a lot about here. And so I definitely wanted to have you on to talk about that. I'm glad we got to meet. We'd love to have you back on before the election. So thanks so much, Brian. Absolutely. Happy to do it. I just want to say thank you for having me.
30:27and people's support for me is not taken in vain and that's why we're running the campaign we're running because there's a lot of people counting on me to get in there and be a voice for them. And with your help, we'll be able to do that. So thank you.
30:41Ben Meiselas:Brian Poindexter, everybody. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 7 million subscribers. Thanks for watching. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber for our sub stack at MidasPlus.com. You'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, add free episodes of our podcast and more exclusive content only available at MidasPlus.com.
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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on warning signs for Donald Trump and Trump-backed Republican candidates emerging from Kansas, Texas, and Ohio as voters react to recent developments and the approaching midterm elections. Meiselas then interviews Brian Poindexter, the Democratic nominee challenging Republican Congressman Max Miller in Ohio’s 7th Congressional District, about the state of the race, recent polling, and what Poindexter is hearing from voters across the district.
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