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The Mindset Mentor Podcast - Episode Summary
Podcast Title
The Mindset Mentor
Host
Rob Dial
Episode Title
Goals… You're Doing Them Wrong
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Episode Overview In this episode, Rob Dial discusses the flaws in traditional goal-setting approaches and introduces a transformative perspective on how to set and achieve goals effectively. Drawing on nearly two decades of coaching experience, he emphasizes the importance of focusing on process-based goals rather than solely on long-term outcomes.
Key Concepts
- Flaws in Traditional Goal Setting
- Long-term goals can lead to demotivation due to their distant nature.
- Focusing on outcomes may cause "paralysis by analysis" for process-driven individuals.
- Process vs. Outcome Goals
- Outcome Goals: Focused on the end result (e.g., losing 10 pounds, making a million dollars).
- Process Goals: Focused on daily actions and steps that lead to the desired outcome.
Action-Based Goals Rob emphasizes the need to create action-based goals that encourage daily achievements, which can be celebrated to boost motivation.
- Examples of action-based goals:
- "What actions do I need to take today to lose those 10 pounds?"
- "What steps must I take today to grow my business?"
The Role of Dopamine Rob discusses the significance of dopamine in motivation and habit formation:
- Dopamine as Motivation: Dopamine is linked to pleasure and the motivation to pursue behaviors that release it.
- Celebrating small wins releases dopamine, reinforcing positive behavior and making it more likely to be repeated.
Celebrating Small Wins
- Celebrating small victories encourages a positive feedback loop, making it easier to maintain habits and stay motivated.
- Rob suggests that individuals should find ways to reward themselves immediately after actions that align with their goals.
Insights from Success Stories Rob shares anecdotes about high achievers who are driven by a passion for the process rather than the end result:
- Successful individuals enjoy the journey and the work involved in achieving their goals (e.g., Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan).
Strategies for Goal Achievement
- Focus on Daily Actions: Instead of fixating on distant goals, concentrate on what can be done today.
- Create a Dopamine Reward System: Develop a habit of celebrating achievements frequently to maintain motivation.
- Fall in Love with the Process: Cultivate a mindset that values the journey, making it easier to achieve results over time.
Conclusion Rob Dial encourages listeners to rethink their approach to goals by embracing process-driven strategies. By focusing on daily actions and celebrating small wins, individuals can foster a sustainable motivation that leads to lasting change and achievement.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07Welcome to today's episode of the mindset mentor podcast the number one mindset podcast in the entire world. Thanks to you guys out there that are listening and always sharing this. I'm your host, Rob Dial. If you have not yet done so, hit that subscribe button so you never miss another podcast episode. And if you're out there and you love this podcast and you want to grow even more, I just created a video training on how to get better at journaling. If you want that absolutely free, go to mindsetmentorjournal.com. And with that, you'll also get 15 days of daily email sent to you with journaling questions to help you learn and improve and get better at journaling.
0:41Once again, it is mindsetmentorjournal.com. Today, we're going to be talking about your goals. And we're going to be talking about how, you know, goals are great, but they're very, very flawed. And mind you, I've been coaching people now about 18 years. And what I just realized a few years ago was the problem with them. So for me, like for 15 years, I was doing it wrong. And I'm going to tell you what I did wrong and how you can not do them wrong because they're completely flawed more than anything else. And what I used to do is I'd say, hey, you know what I'm going to do? And I would work with somebody and I'd be like, hey, let's write down your 10-year goal.
1:18And people get excited about a 10-year goal. But the problem with that is that it seems so far away that for some people, especially a process-driven mind, it can actually be very demotivating because they don't think about just today. They think about all 3 ,650 days in the process of exactly what needs to be done in order to get themselves to their goal in 10 years as if they have to do all of it today, right? For some of you process-driven people, you know what I'm talking about. It's paralysis by analysis. And so what we're gonna talk about today is we're gonna talk about the difference between process of your goals versus outcome of your goals.
1:55We want the outcome of our goals. We want to, you know, if we're like, hey, I want to have a multimillion dollar business. That's the outcome that we want. We want the outcome, but what we need to focus on is the process. and we need to create goals around the process as well. And so what we really need to do is we need to create goals with the focus of what it is that we need to do every single day to get us to that outcome. And I wrote about this in my book. And if you buy my book now, I get paid nothing for it. So I just think you should buy it because I think it's really good because I put three years and 16 rounds of edits into it.
2:36But I talk about this in my book. My book is called Level Up if you want to buy it. It's wherever books are available, you can buy it. I talk about the difference between action-based goals versus results-based goals. Action-based goals versus results-based goals. Results-based goals are when I lose 10 pounds, I'll be where I want to be. That is a results-based goal. When I make a million dollars in my business, then I'll be where I want to be. Those are both results-based goals. The result, losing 10 pounds. The result, making a million dollars. and those are fine, those are great and I did it for years, that's what I focus on but what we need to focus on and we need to create around those are action-based goals.
3:18What action do I need to do today in order to get me closer to losing those 10 pounds? What action do I need to do today in order to get me closer to making that million dollars in my business? What actions do I need to take that are in alignment with where I want to go and I need to act in alignment with the type of person that I need to be. You know, you want your actions to reflect the type of person that you want to become. And the reason why I have an entire chapter in this in my book, it is actually chapter 12, is because we need to, when we figure out what our goals are, our outcome-based goals, our results-based goals, then we can create action-based goals around them.
4:00And then we tap into something in our brain that's called the dopamine reward system. And so what is dopamine? Most people think that dopamine is a feel-good chemical in the brain. Dopamine usually is categorized with serotonin as the feel-good chemicals in your brain. But dopamine is actually the chemical of motivation. It is a very external-based chemical, which is, I got dopamine. I want to do whatever it is that I need to do in order to get more dopamine. Serotonin is a chemical of here and now, grateful for what you have. Dopamine is a chemical of more. If you look at the most addictive drugs in the world, they're all dopamine, I think the way you pronounce it is dopaminergic based drugs.
4:44And so which means like if you look at like cocaine, for instance, when someone does cocaine, their dopamine goes up by about 250%. And when it drops, guess what? They want more dopamine. And so we all are in some sort of way addicted to dopamine. when you check your phone you get hit with dopamine when you um you know your your team wins the game or scores a touchdown you get hit with dopamine when you celebrate yourself you get hit with dopamine it is the chemical that's released when we get excited about something when we celebrate something in some sort of way um and that's really uh one common trait that uh we all have another when and when you look at like common traits for instance i always think back Whenever I see someone who is an incredible achiever, I'm always like, what's common?
5:33What are they doing? What makes them different than other people? One of the common traits that I see among the greatest achievers in our lifetimes, people like Kobe Bryant, people like Michael Jordan, people like the greatest CEOs that are out there, they work really hard. They're dedicated. They're obsessed. All of those are definitely true. but more than anything else I think they fell in love with the process and they fell in love with how the process of going to create something made them feel and I know people are always like I know someone who's worth about four billion dollars and he works harder than almost anybody else that I know and people are always like why don't why do you stop why don't you stop working and the thing is he never did it for money.
6:18He loves the process of waking up, creating something and building something every single day. That's what gives him dopamine. And so it was never about the money. The money was just a byproduct of the, of the fun that he was having by building. Right. And so the, the most successful people that we look at, the greatest achievers are usually people that just love the process. They like doing what they're doing. People who don't understand are like, well, if you're so rich, why don't you just retire? Because it was never about that in the first place. They get joy a lot of times from actually going and creating something and achieving something.
6:52And so most of us don't know, but when you look at someone like Kobe Bryant, who I read about inside of my book, he developed a dopamine reward system that was attached to the process. And so I'll talk more about that, but what is a dopamine reward system? It is a way to get your brain to release some dopamine after you accomplish a task that is part of your process. So instead of focusing on an outcome, you know, a results-based goal, if we focus on a process-driven goal, a process-driven goal means that we could get dopamine, which our brain loves and our brain wants to get more of, multiple times today versus when I lose 10 pounds in four months.
7:33and so in the context of a dopamine reward system dopamine is released in response to a rewarding or pleasurable stimuli the good thing about rewarding a pleasure stimulus rewarding or pleasurable stimuli is that those both are completely subjective they're completely up to you and when your brain releases dopamine it signals to the brain that the behavior that led to the reward should be repeated in the future. So let me say that again. When your brain releases dopamine and the dopamine signals to the brain that the behavior that just happened, that whatever caused that reward should be repeated in the future.
8:16And so it's really important to understand this because when you look at dopamine, dopamine reinforces the neural connections that were involved in the behavior of whatever it is that you just did, making it more likely that the behavior is going to be repeated in the future. And so this is the problem with results-based goals versus process-based goals, right? So the problem with the results-based goal is I don't release dopamine until I achieve my goal. If my goal is months down the road or years down the road, my brain's not releasing dopamine, which means that I'm not falling in harder for me to show up the next day.
8:55And it's, you know, that could be years down the road until I achieve that goal. I know I've, I have felt this way in building my business. I will not be happy until we get to this. I will not celebrate myself until, and so it's not motivating you because it's not releasing dopamine. Dopamine is the chemical of motivation, the chemical of wanting more. So this is why action-based goals are more important than results-based goals. Sure. You know, you could say I want to lose 10 pounds. That's great. But if you wait until you lose 10 pounds until you release dopamine, you'll probably give up before you lose those 10 pounds.
9:29But if you create a action-based goal around it, which is every day, I just need to do some form of movement. That could be yoga. That could be running. That could be going for a walk. That could be going to the gym. That could be lifting heavy. And then every single time that I do it, then I will celebrate myself. I will be excited about myself. I will say, congratulations, you're doing such a great job. I'm so proud of you. Just that little bit of celebration, no joke, this is literally found by scientists and psychologists, that just that little bit of celebrating yourself releases dopamine, which makes you want to do it again because the action that happened before the brain released dopamine is actually starting to get hardwired because the brain wants to get more and more dopamine.
10:13And so this is why action-based goals are way more important to celebrate immediately while you're doing it because the dopamine and releasing dopamine means you're more likely to do it again. And so it's not about achieving the goals. What is more than anything else, it's about falling in love with the journey. And so we're trying to trick our brain into falling in love with the journey. And if you fall in love with the journey, guess what happens? You'll eventually achieve the goal that you want to. There's many people that I know that were overweight. I have one friend specifically who is a hundred pounds overweight and she loves working out now.
10:48She was way overweight and now she loves working out. The act of working out because she showed up for herself, she showed up for herself, she released dopamine, she celebrated herself, she liked the way that she looked in the mirror, she was getting a little bit better and she started to become a little bit addicted to the process. And now she wakes up at four o 'clock in the morning and wakes up before her kids wake up and works out every single morning. She lost a hundred pounds. and so she fell in love with the process and in falling in love with the process, the results ended up coming. So instead of saying, I'll only be happy when I hit the goal, it's like, I'm going to celebrate myself.
11:21I know I'm going to consciously celebrate myself so that my brain will release dopamine and I will want to fall in love with the process and do it more often. And you make the goal, okay, I'm going to lose 10 pounds. And then you just focus on the actions that you need to take. The results don't really matter. What matters is the actions that you need to take, right? Because we have problems, and this is why it's really important for you to understand, we have problems as humans with delayed gratification. We want everything now, but that's not how the world works. Everything great takes time, but we can hijack the system and give us instant gratification now for things that won't happen for a while.
12:00And so if you're saying, well, I only want, I just want to, you know, I'd rather eat a pizza right now versus working out. Well, pizza is going to release some dopamine. You're going to start loving that pizza, right? But you could also say to yourself, I'm going to work out. I'm going to celebrate myself. And it's also been found that if you have a tiny piece, like just one square of chocolate after a workout, it also releases dopamine, right? Like don't eat an entire candy bar, but we can hijack the system and give ourself instant gratification from the dopamine by celebrating ourself. And we celebrating ourself after doing the thing that we needed to to do, the action that will get us closer to our goals.
12:38And so, you know, if you look at that, you can say, oh my gosh, like humans are not good with instant, we're not good with delayed gratification. We prefer instant gratification. Okay. Can I give myself instant gratification right now? I can. When you look at something like delayed gratification, you go to the gym. Now you see results months down the road, go to college for four years, then you get a degree that's four years down the road and then you save for retirement and you retire 20 30 years those are both delayed gratification instant gratification um you know you really just think about and you're like okay i'm getting rewarded right now for what it is that i want a lot of times the problem is that we are wanting a reward immediately that doesn't line up with our long-term goals can we reward ourself immediately by taking an action right before that reward that lines up with our long-term goals.
13:33You know, with delayed gratification, the reward comes way later on down the road. And it makes it easy to give up because it's like, well, you know, I got to work so hard to lose these 10 pounds. It's so far down the road to lose these 10 pounds. An immediate reward isn't going to happen just from going to the gym. You're not going to wake up and you're immediately going to have abs. But the immediate reward is you celebrating yourself. It's looking yourself in the mirror and saying, I'm so proud of you for doing this. This is amazing. And hey, I got you a little tiny piece of chocolate. Go ahead and eat this piece of chocolate.
14:02And then your brain releases dopamine and you go, hey, you know what? I kind of like that. I'd like to do that again tomorrow. Habits become easier when you can find pleasure in doing them. They become really hard if you have to force your way to do it. And I've forced my way to habits many, many years and it's really hard to do. But when you can enjoy your way there, it makes it so much easier to create habits. And it can be as simple as just being proud of yourself for showing up. and taking a step in the right direction. And a lot of times doing things that you really didn't want to do. And so it sounds insane.
14:35I get it. It sounds like, oh my gosh, I can just celebrate myself and I start falling in love with the process. It sounds like something woo woo and way out there, but it's actually based in science. There's multiple books that are written about this. BJ Fogg, who is a professor at Stanford, wrote a book called Tiny Habits. And so it just shows the process of actually figuring out how to create habits, how to develop a dopamine reward system, how to celebrate yourself. And with that dopamine reward system, it will make you more likely to show up tomorrow. And so the problem with our goals is that we focus too much on the future.
15:13And that future could be, like I said, in the very beginning of this podcast episode, let's sit down and write your 10 year goal. But 10 years is 10 years from today. It seems way too far away is what I found. So it's like, how can we celebrate today? How can we celebrate today? How can we celebrate multiple times, 20 times a day? Instead of celebrating yourself after you get done with the gym and you get done with your workout, celebrate yourself after every single set that you do. And then you get dopamine 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 times during a workout, after the workout, it makes you more likely to show up the next day.
15:48And so what it comes down to is, yes, you definitely want long-term goals. You definitely want to create New Year's resolutions. You definitely want to have a five-year goal, a 10-year goal, all of that. But what you really need to do after developing the results-based goal is to find an action-based goals. And then you figure out what are those goals that you need to have for today that need to be done today, multiple times today that I can have an opportunity to celebrate myself. Because if I can have an opportunity to celebrate myself, I can actually have an opportunity to get myself addicted to the process.
16:17Yes, this is possible to become addicted to the process of what I need to do that will eventually get me two years down the road achieving my goals. So that is a new way to create goals. If you love this episode, please do me a favor, share it on your Instagram stories and tag me in it. Rob Dial Jr. R-O-B-D-I-A-L-J-R. The only way this podcast grows is from you guys sharing it. So I greatly, greatly appreciate every single time that you share it and allow more people who have never heard of it before to actually find it again. So if you'd share it, I would greatly appreciate it. And with that, I'm gonna leave you the same way I leave you every single episode.
16:50Make it your mission to make someone else's day better. I appreciate you, and I hope that you have an amazing day.
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