SPECIAL REPORT: An election like no other in Birmingham

7 May 2026 · 47 min · 17 chapters

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In short

A “special report” on the 2026 local elections in Birmingham, framed as a UK-wide preview of coming political chaos driven by multi-party fragmentation, Labour’s unpopularity after bankruptcy and bin strikes, and the rise of “Gaza independents”/independents in Muslim areas.

Guests (backgrounds)

  1. Councillor John Cotton, leader of the Labour Group on Birmingham City Council; Labour incumbent for over a decade.
  2. Councillor Matt Bennett, Conservative councillor for Edgebaston; argues Birmingham has council-admin scandals and “pushing back” in Muslim communities.
  3. Ahmed Yacoub, “Gaza independent” figure; previously nearly won Ladywood in 2024; not standing due to an alleged money-laundering court case; portrayed as coordinating Gaza-independent campaigns.
  4. Harry Jenkins and Jack Brabant, comedians/club co-founders; discuss Birmingham politics and local business conditions.

Key claims

  • Labour: “unity vs division,” investment growth, and £651m returned to the council; warns independents/Reform could deepen division.
  • Conservatives: Labour’s vote-taking-for-granted and “murky” politics (including postal voting scandals) are rebounding; some independent rhetoric is divisive.
  • Yacoub: “independence” from Labour and “rotten council,” “accurate representation,” and anti-Zionist claims; attacks Greens and accuses media/politicians of conspiracies.
  • Comedians: Birmingham feels like a “basket case” with bins, crime/litter, and street-level decline; insurgents and Reform exploit visible problems.

Notable examples

  • Multi-party contests (4–6 parties) under first-past-the-post leading to hung-council risk.
  • Yacoub’s 2024 near-win in Ladywood (within ~3,000 votes of Shabana Mahmood).
  • Yacoub’s comments about “Zionist puppet masters,” and calling Green leader Zach Polanski “degenerate” over alleged naked dancing at Trafalgar Square.
  • Street-level examples: car theft/tyre slashing and fear around the city centre/business viability.

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Chapters

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Politics in Birmingham: A Microcosm

1:03 to 2:24

Explore the complexities of Birmingham's political landscape.

“Dancing in the middle of stage with naked men in front of little children.”

Labour's Challenges in Birmingham

2:25 to 4:12

Understand the challenges faced by Labour in Birmingham's elections.

“So we're talking about chaos in Birmingham for a very good reason.”

The Question of Unity

4:13 to 4:46

Discuss the concept of unity in Birmingham politics amidst division.

“Councillor Cotton, these are going to be bloodbath elections for Labour nationally in this city, aren't they?”

Responses to Community Concerns

4:47 to 5:00

Listen to responses regarding Labour's handling of Birmingham's issues.

“So, Birmingham is a great and diverse city.”

Emergence of Sectarian Politics

5:01 to 9:16

Examine the rise of sectarian politics in Birmingham and its implications.

“And it's also clear that some of those forces out there are forces that want to turn communities against each other.”

Conservative Perspectives on Labour

9:17 to 11:19

Hear Conservative viewpoints on Labour's governance in Birmingham.

“Matt Bennett, Conservative Councillor for Edgebaston.”

The Controversial Figure of Ahmed Yacoub

11:20 to 14:01

Understand the impact of Ahmed Yacoub on Birmingham's political landscape.

“But many of them are, I think, quite divisive, quite just appealing to a particular sentiment that is potentially very unpleasant.”

Interview with Mr. Yacoub: The Independent Campaign

14:01 to 27:18

Explore the insights and motivations of Ahmed Yacoub and his campaign's impact on Birmingham's local elections.

“when he was standing in the Birmingham Ladywood constituency at the 2024 general election.”

Birmingham Politics Descends into Chaos

28:14 to 29:17

Discussion on the chaotic state of Birmingham politics ahead of elections.

“So when I said at the start of the episode that Birmingham politics was descending and is likely to descend further into chaos, that is what I meant.”

Ahmed Yacoub's Influence on Local Politics

29:18 to 32:46

Analyzing Ahmed Yacoub's divisive role and its implications on local governance.

“We've just been speaking to Ahmed Yacoub, who's become a bit of a force in Birmingham politics.”
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Funding Challenges and Choices in Local Government

32:47 to 36:09

Exploring the financial difficulties and decision-making in Birmingham's council.

“and what we can push and campaign for, which, as I said, is protecting our public services.”

Contrasting Political Styles in Birmingham

36:10 to 38:02

Contrasting the approaches of various political figures in Birmingham's landscape.

“So it was a bit of a contrast, jarring you might even say, going from Ahmed Yacoub and his band of merry men, and they nearly are all men, to our green candidate just there.”

Public Sentiment and Local Services

38:03 to 41:43

Insight into public frustration regarding local services and political choices.

“I'm one of the co-founders of the Dita Starwood Club.”

Acknowledging Birmingham's Challenges

41:44 to 42:00

Discussing the realities of Birmingham's current challenges and political climate.

Birmingham's Political Landscape: A Shift in Dynamics

42:00 to 45:48

Explore the evolving political landscape in Birmingham amidst rising insurgent forces.

“And they think that, obviously, as a working class industrial city at its heart, they've gone like, well, we'll get in anyway.”

Birmingham's Political Landscape: A Shift in Dynamics

45:49 to 46:24

Explore the evolving political landscape in Birmingham amidst rising insurgent forces.

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Mainstream Politics and the Future of Birmingham

46:36 to 49:57

Understand the implications of mainstream politics' disconnect with Birmingham's realities.

“And into that vacuum we see Yacoub, into that vacuum we see Nigel Farage and Reform.”
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1:03This is a Global Player original podcast. Dancing in the middle of stage with naked men in front of little children. You'd compare yourself to Nelson Mandela? I'm not saying I'd compare, I follow people like that. But you do think you're a great man? Of course. Pretty anti-Semitic to suggest that there are Zionist puppet masters who control the media. The whole media is like that because you try to push a certain narrative. You have people like Jimmy Savile around here and then you're trying to target me? Louis could be several what Jimmy Savile got to do with the Epstein files He was a sign is clear the close friend of Keir Starmer's no, he wasn't of course.

1:36He was no He wasn't that's just a conspiracy. You know, okay, I say the conspiracy everything you say is not

1:46The news agents For those watching know it's not about me what you just heard Was a sound the sound of politics in in Birmingham in 2026. And what you're about to hear in today's special local and national elections episode is how, in so many ways, culturally, politically, economically, socially, the politics of Birmingham in 2026, we think is so likely to be coming for the politics near you, for the national politics of the UK. Welcome to the News Agents. So we're talking about chaos in Birmingham for a very good reason. Or rather not just Birmingham, because as important as Birmingham is, you know, the biggest local authority in the country, huge city and so on.

2:39The reason that it really matters in terms of the potential politics in Britain to come is that Birmingham is a microcosm of the politics of Britain to come. Birmingham is huge and it's deeply diverse and as a result it has every shade, every characteristic, every combination of politics that the rest of the country has in aggregate. So you've got the classic Labour Tory areas, you've got Labour Lib Dem, you've got the rise of the Greens, you've got reform as well at the outer edges and you've also got increasingly, particularly in the city, Muslim areas. You've got the rise of these so-called Gaza independents, what some people call the rise of a sectarian force in British politics.

3:21And you've got all of that, basically a four, five, in some places even six party contests, all being funneled as it will be in the general election to come through the kind of weird machine, voting machine that is first past the post. And you know what you get when you get four, five, six-party contests in individual awards or individual consistencies, you get that chaos. And it's a good microcosm for another reason, which is this is a city which has been Labour-run for a long time now, over 10 years, and it is widely perceived, for lots of reasons you might be familiar with, bin strikes, the city going bankrupt and all of that, Labour is considered to have done a bad job.

4:03Unpopular, incumbent, with its coalition and new political actors gnawing away at its coalition at every edge. Sound familiar? I'm Councillor John Cotton, leader of the Labour Group on Birmingham City Council. Councillor Cotton, these are going to be bloodbath elections for Labour nationally in this city, aren't they? No, I think what we're seeing is a very clear choice of Brummies in this election, between unity and a clear plan for the future of this city with Labour, or frankly division and risk if so-called independence and reform get a foothold. I think it's very clear from the conversations I'm having on doorsteps that people are thinking very deeply about the future of this city and they understand the stakes.

4:39Why does Labour represent unity when other people don't represent unity? I mean, the democratic election by definition is divisive. Why do you represent unity? Unity for what? So, Birmingham is a great and diverse city. It's one of its great strengths. It's only Labour that's offering a programme that speaks to the needs of the people of this city when it comes to how we ensure that the jobs that have been created through the great investment we're seeing coming into Birmingham are shared across every community. And it's also clear that some of those forces out there are forces that want to turn communities against each other.

5:07If you look at the rhetoric that comes from reform somebody like Robert Jenrick I appreciate he was on his transition from the Tories to reform at the time he came to Hansworth and talked about said some quite outrageous things frankly about communities in Hansworth and also we've seen with some of the so-called independence the kind of politics where they turn communities against each other I suppose John I suppose if someone from the outside might look and someone indeed on the inside might look at what's happened in Birmingham and they see a Labour administration which has been in office for over a decade during which time the council has gone bankrupt during which time the city has been paralyzed by bin strikes which were endless and have only recently latterly been resolved a city which frankly is being left in the dust and behind by comparison to what we're seeing in manchester under people like andy burnham and so on and just think why on earth should we re-elect the people under whom this has all happened so there's three things to that firstly the investment picture in birmingham is incredibly bright we've seen record levels of investment coming into this city we've seen growth in some of the biggest cutting-edge sectors of the economy, whether that's life sciences, the creative industries and much more besides.

6:09Secondly, what happened in Birmingham did not happen in a vacuum. We know that austerity wreaked havoc across local government and particularly for big urban areas like Birmingham. Manchester hasn't gone bankrupt. Birmingham lost a billion pound as a result of cuts over that period and we've seen councils up and down the country that have found themselves in difficulty having to issue 114 notices. Thirdly, you're the biggest by far. Thirdly, the Labour Party put me in as leader to address a number of issues that we knew were specific Birmingham problems. Some people have said that Birmingham is sort of ground zero, if you like, for a new type of sectarian politics.

6:46And indeed we have seen independents elected at a parliamentary level in the city. We've obviously got people standing for the council now, Gaza independents. Is this sectarianism? And should we be afraid of it? So Birmingham's great strength has been its diversity and the vast majority of communities in this city live and work and thrive together. You've got people of all faiths and none, you've got people from all sorts of backgrounds who've made their home here in Birmingham. Has the Prime Minister been an asset on the door set? So I think the Prime Minister's had a really difficult hand to play over the last couple of years.

7:17He inherited an economy in crisis, a huge hole in the public finances. An absolutely massive majority to sort it all out. And he's now dealing with a global situation which is incredibly challenging as well. I think the Prime Minister is doing a good job of trying to see through a number of those challenges. And what I'll also say is the benefits of having a Labour government in this city are now being felt in the£651 million that's been put back into the council. Are people on the doorstep saying, oh I think Keir Starmer's done a great job? So you get all sorts of different views around it. Has anyone said that to you?

7:44I certainly have had people say that they rate the job the Prime Minister's doing. How many do you have? Well look, there's a number of conversations that you have on doorsteps and I think it's really clear that people are, when it comes down to it, they're thinking about what's the future of this city. So you can hear from Cotton there another way in which Birmingham politics feels like such a microcosm, to use that word again, of national politics. You've basically got, as I say, an unpopular incumbent without a clear sense of ideological direction, talking in very Starmerite terms about, in Cotton's case, the character of Birmingham, you know, talking about unity over division.

8:20But in an era where kind of identity politics and those really sharp-edged kind of identitarian themes are so strong, the question is whether that really cuts it and whether it just sounds sort of deeply nebulous and inchoate and unclear. And on top of that, you can sort of see Labour struggling to hold on to the sorts of communities in which it had traditionally weighed the votes. specifically as a result of Gaza, Muslim areas, you know, where Labour have dominated and dominated, particularly in cities like Birmingham over recent years. And that gap, that vacuum, whether it's fair or not, has created the space for people, the sort of people, these Gaza independents, who many people, as I say, are talking about as being a sectarian force to rise.

9:13And that's also partly maybe not just Labour's fault. because in so many ways one of the kind of curiosities about modern politics if we're just going to take the question of the muslim vote for example is that in so many ways you could argue they should be natural center-right or right-wing voters they should be the sorts of people who are generally socially conservative pro-business all of these sorts of things you would think that they would be natural supporters maybe of the conservative party but it's a conservative party under Kevin Bainock in particular who are constantly talking about Islamism and questions around Islamism and cultural questions which are alienating these voters and potentially in places like Birmingham alienating them from the Tory party.

9:54Matt Bennett, Conservative Councillor for Edgebaston. Matt, is it going to be chaos in Birmingham after Thursday? Well, it's difficult to say, isn't it? I mean, you know, as far as we're concerned we're aiming to get a Conservative majority and a stable administration. What is Birmingham politics like right now? It feels to me that it's got an edge and it's got a certain sort of characteristics that are unlike other parts of the country. What are we seeing in Birmingham that is a potential portent of other things to go? Well, I mean, in many ways it's not so different from the rest of the country.

10:22There are particular Birmingham issues here to do with the way the council's been administered. Yeah. There are particular issues in parts of the city where I think that Labour has taken the vote for granted for many years and perhaps engaged in some murky, dubious politics. You're talking about Muslim mayors. Yeah, yeah, I am. And, you know, the sort of postal voting scandals we've had in the past, the Klan voting system, they've kind of ridden that in the past. And it's coming back again. It's rebounding on them now. So there is that. When you say that, what do you mean by that? It's rebounding.

10:52What I mean is I think there's a community there that's felt taken for granted and is pushing back against them now. And some of that pushing back in the form of some of the candidates and people that are emerging there, perhaps slightly unpleasant. Why are they unpleasant? Well, you've probably seen some of the rhetoric coming from Ahmed Akhub and I can't remember the name of the other person. But, you know, some of those people, I'm not saying all of the people standing under the independence banner, don't get me wrong. But many of them are, I think, quite divisive, quite just appealing to a particular sentiment that is potentially very unpleasant.

11:32Why is that sentiment and why is it unpleasant? Well, I think it's when you're trying to appeal to people based on religion, based on what religion you follow and where you come from in terms of ethnicity, rather than, frankly, what this should be about, which is about decent services being run by a properly administered council. Now, Labour have made a complete mess of Birmingham over the past 14 years. But isn't it? Just on the question of the Klan stuff, and particularly appealing to certain ethnicities, political parties have always done that, haven't they? Fuck, it's a time of memorial. I mean, the Conservative Party used to be known as the Church of England at prayer.

12:10It's always been true that different ethnicities, different religions have tended to have particular political preferences. Why is that illegitimate for Muslims to do? I think that was a very different time. Well, I think it depends. I mean, the Conservative Party was the Church of England at prayer when the vast majority of the country followed the Church of England. It wasn't particularly divisive. Catholics used to vote for the Labour Party. We've seen the Conservative Party in recent elections have particular adverts aimed at British Hindus, for example, or British Indians. I don't agree with that when that's done, actually.

12:40I don't agree with targeting particular groups in that way. I think in this instance there is some ugly rhetoric, and you don't have to look very far on social media to see where it's coming from. What I would say is, I think you make a relevant point that we need to do a better job of appealing to a lot of these groups. I wouldn't disagree. What I would say is that I myself represent a part of Birmingham that is actually quite mixed. I think I probably represent the most diverse ward that a Conservative represents in Birmingham at the moment. And generally, I find I get support from across all the different communities, because what I do is deal with the issues that matter to them on a day-to-day basis.

13:21I don't try and appeal to them on the basis of their race or ethnicity. I appeal to them on the basis that they're human beings who are entitled to the same level of service from their councillors and from the council as anybody else. That's the way to deal with these issues, I think, to recognise everybody is equal and entitled to an equal service. Birmingham politics has created some characters over the years. As I say, it's a city with very complicated politics. I don't think that there is anyone more colourful, more characterful, to put it at its perhaps most generous, than the man we've already been inevitably somehow circling around.

13:57And it's this guy, Ahmed Yacoub. Now particularly loyal listeners and viewers might actually remember that we ourselves have previously interviewed Mr Yacoub when he was standing in the Birmingham Ladywood constituency at the 2024 general election. Here's a little bit of our exchange where, among other things, I was asking him why he was such a strong supporter of Andrew Tate. You also said in the post, the one person I rate is Andrew Tate. Do you still rate Andrew Tate? Do you still admire him? Let me tell you something about Andrew Tate. Yeah, please do. And why you have to rate him. Now, Yacoub actually came within a hair's breadth of winning in Ladywood, which was at that time one of the safest seats in the country, Labour seats in the country.

14:43He came within 3 ,000 votes of defeating the now Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. He is not himself eligible to actually stand in these elections, or at least he's not putting himself forward for these elections, I should say, because he is currently involved in a court case involving alleged money laundering. Nonetheless, for every offence is a defence, Nonetheless, he appears to be masterminding the Gaza independent campaign, which looks like it will become a significant force on the council after the local elections. We're on our way to meet him now. We've been told we can meet him. He gave us the runaround last time where we sort of chased him around half of central Birmingham, but I think we probably will meet him.

15:29And he's not just a kind of local, colourful, weird figure, some say a sinister figure. he's also someone who could become quite quickly nationally important because he finds himself at the centre of these campaigns across the country coordinating so-called sort of Gaza independence. But also, I mean, I'm told that there are civil servants, officials in Whitehall who are genuinely really concerned about the outcome of these local elections in Birmingham because it's the biggest local authority in Europe. It's got a budget of billions of pounds and they're convinced that this is the guy who's going to do everything he can to basically put sand in the gears of the administration locally via an obsession, as they would see it, with Middle East issues, Gaza, refusing to work with other parties.

16:11And it is just, as I say, a portent of some of the political, yes, again, chaos to come potentially in this city.

16:21I feel like I'm on The Apprentice here, looking for Ahmed Yakub. I'm to Spartbrook, it's one of the most Muslim areas of the city, of the inner city. Everywhere, everywhere. Look, vote Jamil Khan, independent. These pink posters everywhere. He's just one of them. Not Labour side to be seen. There we go, independent candidate. And this guy, this very unlikely character, is basically running the show. Is this him? Is this him? I can hear a loudspeaker. I think he's coming. I think he's coming. Hello, hello, hello. Hello again, Mr. Yakub. How nice to see you again. Good to see you, man. How are you doing?

17:04I'm all right with you. You've been a busy man. Yeah. Hello. How are you doing? Nice to meet you. How are you doing? You all right? Hello. How are you? Okay, how are you doing? Let's make Sparkbrook beautiful again, it says. Yes. Yes. What are the policies to do that? The policies is accountability. The Labour-run council has made the council bankrupt, and for far too long now other communities have been voting them blindly voting for them this time around we're not going to do that we're voting for independence independence yeah independence what do you mean independence voting for the independent candidates from whom voting for the independent candidates but you say you want it's independence day so it's independence from whom independence oh independent from the political party independence from the rotten council that we've had for last 14 years has been labour run and even before everyone's had enough i think it's also independence from uh for you know certain media channels who are not been pushing our accurate message yeah yeah people like you who are trying to uh send a bad message out making us look like the bad people not yet we haven't even had our interview yet you've tried so many times louis no not at all not I'm a nice person.

18:18I know you are. Should we sit down? Yes, sit down. Sit down, have a chill. Yeah, people parachuted in from different areas. They don't even live in the areas. And they try to represent the areas. Me, Shikain Afsa, when I stood in the general election, we were from the area. The people support us on the ground. We don't need no colour on our necks, you know, political parties telling us what to do. So, Ahmed, tell us, what are your aims in this election? What do you want to achieve? What other aims have already been achieved in this election because we have young people contesting as independent candidates.

18:53That has never happened in the history of UK political, UK history. I mean, you'll get one independence, you know, there and they'll be scattered all over. This is the first time so many independent candidates have come forth and contesting for the elections. Here's one right there, Ray Hanabas is a 22-year-old criminal lawyer. We want to achieve what Labour hasn't been able to achieve for the last 20 years. Which is what? I'm in Park Brook at the moment, then I'm going to Nigel's from here. Don't be like Nigel, because when I debated him, he was like, I have to correct him live on. Let me finish.

19:25What we want to achieve is accurate representation for our community. What we believe Labour has done is they have used nepotism and the Baradhi vote to control our people. You can all see that there's people, bystanders, taking pictures of us. We have the support, Louis. And back to your question. We want to make sure... Do we have any support? Yeah, of course. Thank you, sister. Thank you very much. And pray for God bless you. God bless you. I must listen to myself. You're an inspiration too. OK, thank you very much. You think he's an inspiration, madam? You think this gentleman's an inspiration?

19:55Why do you think he's an inspiration? He is an inspiration. Why? Why? I see this. He's upsetting the status quo. Yeah. For sure. To be very honest, I have seen him, I think, for the second time. In the last election, he's doing a lot. Yeah. To be very honest, it's all over. Why do you think it's inspiration? Why is he inspirational? Why is he inspirational? He's hitting the nail on the head. Some people I've spoken to today are very afraid of him. Yeah, you should be afraid of him. Like we're afraid of reform? No, people hate what they don't know. Why do you think? People are afraid of the truth.

20:34A lot of people think that this is sectarian. So just because we're representing a community as Muslim, I find it very strange that you're trying to arouse that we are secretarian. Absolutely not. We advocate for anyone and everyone. The fact that Labour Party has been using our votes. And we are demonstrating after 2024. But you don't stand in non-Muslim areas, is it? After 2024, Ahmed Yaqub has demonstrated. You don't stand in non-Muslim areas. You don't stand in like Norfield or Longbridge and places like that. Ladywood, we have Gary Cressman standing. It's a place with a big Muslim community.

21:06Deborah Marag, Gary Cressman. I'm just putting it to you The accusation is The accusation I'm just saying The accusation that is put to you The accusation is put I'm just putting it So you can defend yourself From who? The police? From national media From other political parties Who cares about national media? No no The media will have you Believing the people Amen Who are the bad people Are the good people And the good people Are the bad people Who cares about the media? You're only seeking To represent You're only seeking You're only seeking To represent Muslims Okay And that is therefore Wait wait I wouldn't represent you And that is therefore by definition secretarian.

21:41Is it sectarian? Look, we have started our movement with the inner city areas. It is not our fault that these are majority Muslim areas. We are moving out. We are looking to expand our movement. I don't need to explain that to you. From 2024. Why aren't you standing in these elections? No, no, no. I'm asking, why aren't you standing in these elections? Because voting on over 30 candidates. Over 30 candidates. It's nothing to do with the money laundering trial. It's got nothing to do with the electoral commission. I can still stand if I wanted to but I don't want to stand as a councillor So it's nothing to do with the fact that there is a trial in relation to you with regards to money laundering I have many trials, I don't care about the trials whatever happens at the trial, the movement still carries on You don't care?

22:20I don't care about no trial You don't care whether you go to prison? Prison, a chance to converse and be alone He's a state-sponsored acquisition Every great man has been to prison Nelson Mandela went to prison You would compare yourself to Nelson Mandela? Nelson Mandela went to prison and he was called a terrorist before You'd compare yourself to Nelson Mandela? I'm not saying I follow people like that. But you do think you're a great man? Of course. What have you done that's so great? I've challenged the status quo. Nelson Mandela led a 30-year campaign against apartheid. What have you done?

22:51Against apartheid. I've led a campaign against Jewish apartheid in Gaza. In Gaza, in Palestine. Where your puppet masters, the Zionist regime have made the Palestinians suffer under occupation for over 70 years. Who are my puppet masters? Your puppet masters the Zionist regime. You know exactly who me. That sounds pretty... Come on, man. Come on, Louis. Come on, let me come on. Everyone knows we've got puppet masters. We know what you're trying to do. That sounds pretty anti-Semitic to suggest that there are Zionist puppet masters who control the media. The whole media is like that because you try to push a certain narrative.

23:32Do you recognise that that is one of the oldest anti-Semitic tropes in the book. And do you understand why that there will be people who are deeply concerned about that sort of rhetoric? Zionists, the people are happy with the apartheid that's happening in Gaza. That's the only people that can take offence to that. Nobody else, anybody with the answer of humanity cannot take any offence to what I've just said. I want to talk about the Greens. Yeah, talk about them. You're saying here, think in green, think again. Of course you think again. LGBTQA plus and sex education in primary schools do you consent?

24:01I've got five more minutes, you know. That's absolutely fine. You said that the Greens are degenerate Oh, very degenerate Why are they degenerate? You have Zach Polanski You have Zach Polanski Dancing in the middle of stage with naked men In front of little children I'm a father, I don't want my children to be When did he do that? He didn't know Trafalgar Square about a month ago You don't watch the news, do you? Do you understand why a lot of people find that objectionable? I meant degeneracy because Zach Polanski Was dancing with naked strippers In raw daylight That is degenerate You think that you'll be able to catch me out I have run rings around prosecutors and judges, mate.

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24:34You can never catch me, little Louis. Well, that'll come in handy in your upcoming trial for money laundering. Yeah, look, whatever that is, that's a state-created crime, and I'm going to fight you. Well, all crimes are state-created crimes. Little Louis. You think the state is that interested in you, that they would create crimes? They have, and this will come out in the trial. It's a state-created crime, and it wouldn't have existed. What about when you had to pay compensation? What about it? Compensation to a woman you defamed. Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala. Saying that she was racist and she wasn't.

25:02Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala has blessed me with money. I made a mistake. Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala has blessed me with religion, first of all. So when I make a mistake, I can apologise. I'm a man enough to apologise. Alhamdulillah. She said that you really, really affected her mentally. That's why I gave a payout. Alhamdulillah, with the help of Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala, I was allowed to give that payout. Do you think these are the actions of a great man? Every man makes a mistake. Every man is targeted by the likes of little people like you. state, the government. With the legal personalities by state, by the Epstein class.

25:37People like you, the Zionist regime, is controlled by the Epstein class. You've got Peter Mandelson mentions in the Epstein files. You have Nick Candy in the Epstein files. You have people like Jimmy Savile around here. And then you're trying to target me, Louis? Jimmy Savile? What's Jimmy Savile got to do with the Epstein files or the Zionist class? He was a close friend of Keir Starmer's. No, he wasn't. Of course he was. No, he wasn't. That's just a conspiracy. Nonsense Conspiracy Everything I say is a conspiracy Everything you say is not It's just some of the stuff you say Is a conspiracy Not even a conspiracy It's just plain wrong What's wrong Well he was not ever a friend Of Jimmy Savile

26:13Who would you work with? Labour? We need to go One last question Who would you work with? I think you know what We have got time To do this interview Because I've rescheduled But I think we should Cut our interview here See you later mate Alright well An absolute pleasure I can't say the same thing Cafe Habibi Can you ban him from your shop please Are they banned? We're barred Oh you're made, you're barred Oh well there we go We're barred, alright We're being barred from the cafe now You need to go media report and learn how to conduct yourself And learn how to be neutral I have done debates with the likes of Nadja Farad Philip Schofield Philip Schofield I've shut them all down All right.

27:00Well, say hello to Phil next time you see him. Okay. Bye-bye.

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28:23Hey. Yeah. Just for the elections. Just for the elections. So when I said at the start of the episode that Birmingham politics was descending and is likely to descend further into chaos, that is what I meant. Because just imagine after this election where there is likely to be a hung council with no one with a majority and imagine five or ten or fifteen or who knows even more of Mr Yacoub's independence parties and party members sitting as councillors. That's the sort of thing we might expect, or at least a version of it. And I have to say, in all years I've been doing this political reporting, I have never ever been barred from an interview location before.

29:15Habibi's, never been able to go about there. It was so 2026. That is so 2026. It is so 2026 politics in that everything and what Yacoub, checkered character as he is, a lot of people would say sinister character as he is, potential criminal as he is, completely understands about contemporary politics, which he clearly understood in 2024, which he has harnessed and honed even since then. it is all content it is a content game we were just part of his content game on some level we knew that going in and we certainly knew it when we came out and that is his skill and you might say it is a skill of a charlatan or a snake oil salesman but it is that skill that ability to basically use a tiktok account and social media and this bizarre character that he has created for himself, which has led him to be, even though he has not standing in this election, has led him to be the de facto leader of an entirely sizable, an entire and sizable community within Birmingham, and indeed hero-worshipped by a great number of them.

30:30And where he is leading and directing, as uncomfortable as it might be, others are following, not least, as we have seen, in how he is treating, and you heard him talk about it in that interview there, and it's in his leaflets, how he is treating the Green Party and how he is honing in on the fact that although the Greens at a national level are becoming a home and focus for Muslim votes and for people disaffected by Gaza, in so many ways they're a not natural fit, given their social liberalism and given the sort of people that often they are, not a natural fit for what is, at heart, a socially conservative community.

31:12We've just been speaking to Ahmed Yacoub, who's become a bit of a force in Birmingham politics. Does his presence and his influence in Birmingham politics worry you? Yeah, it does a bit. I think he can be quite divisive and some of the stuff is quite nasty. And it's why we've said that while we're open to talk to negotiate after the election in good faith depending on what the outcome is and depending on what residents are. I think it's a fool's errand to second guess that. We have said that there are certain parties or groups that are sort of beyond our red lines, obviously reforms you'd expect, but also the independent cancer alliance we won't be sort of making a deal with.

31:55And why is that? What is it about them? It's just some of the stuff that they come out with. Particularly around LGBT rights and it's just not the sort of politics that we think the city deserves and the people here in Birmingham want. So I think we want to focus on positive things that will make a meaningful difference for everybody and be, try and be as much as we can a unifying force and bring communities together rather than split people apart. I mean, I was just interviewing him and he called Zach Polanski, your leader, a degenerate. I mean, this is grotesque language, isn't it? I mean, it's that sort of attack and language, which is why we just don't think we can really work with his group at all.

32:41Because it's just, you know, yeah. And so we want to really focus on positive things, what we can do for the city, and what we can push and campaign for, which, as I said, is protecting our public services. It's cleaning up streets, getting the roads sorted. It's those sorts of important issues. But doing it in a way which brings people together. I suppose in a way though, whatever you or I or others might think of him, he does, for your party, he's exposing something, right? Or the independent group, we should say, are exposing something, which is that obviously we saw this in Gorton and Denton, we're seeing it in parts of London.

33:14The Greens are becoming a home for particularly disaffected Muslim voters who might traditionally have voted Labour, particularly perhaps around the issue of Gaza and so on. But the truth is that in some ways, the sort of political profile of those voters are quite an ill-suited fit for you in lots of ways, particularly when you consider just how socially liberal you are on many things in a way that, frankly, many of these voters just aren't. They're much more socially conservative. I think there's two things I'd say to that. I think one is we need to be careful about putting all of one community or one demographic in the same box.

33:44And I think that can be quite

33:49problematic and we need to be careful about that. And I think the other thing I'd say is there will always be things that we will agree with people on and we will disagree with people on. But obviously politics is about finding what you agree with and what you agree on and what you can do for people and standing up for people as much as you can, as much as what you agree with them on. Isn't the truth though, I mean just taking politics a bit more widely and zooming out for a second. The truth is, is that, I mean, even the independents, I was looking a lot at their leaflets. In fairness to them, you know, it's often portrayed in the media that they're running on Gaza and they're running on these international things.

34:25They're clearly mentioning that and that's an element. And so is your party in different parts of the country. But they're mainly talking about actually a lot of what everyone else is talking about, right, which is kind of the decline of local services, the sort of decline of the lived environment. You know, something like, I'm from Birmingham, I kind of notice it when I come back, you know, things are just sort of tattier and not in the state that they should be and really bothers people. But the truth is that whoever takes office in Birmingham after, you know, when the negotiations are finally done, such is the state of the city, but also the state of the national finances, which means that much of this stuff is predetermined.

34:57Your actual spending power is, discretion over spending power is limited, and there's not a lot you can do about that. I don't entirely agree. I think, obviously, local government finance and the cash that councils have got is tricky. And obviously, as a party, we would say, that we need much better and fairer funding for councils across the country nationally, and that funded by things like wealth tax and those sorts of things. So yeah, council budgets are stretched and it is a difficult picture. However, even within that, there are choices and prioritisations you can make, and there are things you can choose to do and ways you can look at approaching that and prioritising things.

35:38and it always sort of seems to be that whenever there's been cuts and services have been slashed it's always been the most left behind communities communities are always struggling already that seem to bear the brunt of it and have the worst deal out of that at the end and whether that's an inner city ward you know that the sorts of you're talking about or whether that's actually here in Druid Heath um you know and it's always those that have the lease that seem to suffer the most from the kind of cuts and slashing of Lockheed On funding. So it was a bit of a contrast, jarring you might even say, going from Ahmed Yacoub and his band of merry men, and they nearly are all men, to our green candidate just there.

36:25And you might even say that I think you were basically looking there at the kind of difference between politics in 2026 and politics from a different age. And that's because, and I thought, I mean, obviously the Green Party candidate, like so many of the other people that we've spoken to today, and the Greens aren't even the worst example of this because in lots of ways they're insurgents too, but a lot of traditional politicians and politics right now, as in some ways deplorably as you might think that Yacoub says, something that he has is he knows how to say it the content thing that I was saying before he knows how to say it but he also in his own sometimes twisted way has something to say and very often a lot of contemporary politics feels like it does not and Keir Starmer's biggest problem so often is not just the content with a capital c it's with a lowercase c as well It's not just the way he's saying it, it's having something to say.

37:28And the truth is, is that as much as liberals or progressives or others might not like it, there is a lot about this city right now, much as in national politics, which is so deeply imperfect. There are things which it is almost uncomfortable to recognise and talk about. And into that vacuum, people like Yacoub are going in, they're filling it and gaining and winning support. Harry Jenkins is my name. I'm Jack Brabant. And what is your lot in life? I'm a comedian now. Allegedly. I'm one of the co-founders of the Dita Starwood Club. We're in various venues, including Herb Shard, Dot Works. So fellas, we're turning to you for a bit of normality in this otherwise very, very weird piece.

38:26What is it like Birmingham politics at the moment? What is your sense of it? I think the best way to say it is basket case, really. Yeah, I'd say a basket case, yeah. Everyone just keeps shouting the word bins at politicians. That tends to be the vibe at the moment, just bins. I mean, I think, you know, since the bankruptcy, there's frustration. there's a lot of divert uh division in the city i think you can see that with what's going on where realistically what's going to happen on the 7th of may is uh you know we're going to see just the different problem there was just i don't know what's going to happen i think you know we're going to see a complete collapse and it's not going to make it any better you know i said to you earlier i was sitting over there on what is a tuesday and i had two blokes just saying that they're going to vote for reform they said there was two older blokes they said they know he's a he's an idiot but they just hate the other people i think there's a lot of that which is quite a depressing state of affairs that that's what everyone seems to be doing is just voting for the worst sorry the best of a bad bunch or rolling the dice uh or rolling the dice in that time uh since the collapse of uh the council in terms of bankruptcy you know we saw business rates go up But crime and litter became an unviable place for the...

39:46It was pretty ding in the road. It was horrible to come to. I think people were really scared.

39:53The city centre became unviable to come to. It was scary to run a business. Massively. Massively. And I think we've always been an advocate for trying to go into places, to try and make places work, show that you know actually what we do as a business you know we're going to places that have been a bit loved you know longbridge where we opened herbert's yard it's been a place where it's it's people really embrace it and they come and it's words doesn't always work for us we did it in digbiff we did it in hokley and hokley was just if just too tough and i think it's not just because of covid it's because of the bankruptcy is because it became loved crime everything it just was and then transport as well it was pretty like i mean jack could sit here for hours I'll tell you about how customers used to park up go in for a pint come out in a car with strips 25 minutes of broad daylight I mean it was just every day it was just like we used to joke that underneath Hockley there was some sort of Mayan tomb that had cursed cursed the streets that's it because it was honestly it was just it was horrible even here you know you're saying what's it like we live in I live literally at the end of that road I live 200 metres away Selly Park is a nice area and in the last year we had my partner and I our Fiat was robbed outside our house her van she's a street food trader she's had the tyres slashed and the wing mirror broken it's had been broken into three times Jack's neighbour had his van robbed last week your cars I've personally chased people and which is about a nice area your car's been broken into what three times you've stopped someone from stripping your car and this is only the last year and that's two people and our partner I mean this is it is bad at the moment I mean you know it's there's you know we were saying it when we were chatting a few months ago like there's no point people pretending that everything's fine at the moment because it and it is frustrating from my point of view because i think we're quite nice normal sensible people yeah we're not you know we're not going to go and vote for anyone horrible but it is there's something bad at the moment but this is what's good this is what i was going to say right because i'm often you know although i don't live in birmingham anymore you know i'm i'm the sort of first i try and sort of like really wear the sort of brummy badge and be like you know it's an amazing city people always knock it down and whatever and and try and sort of defend it to the utmost even though i know in my mind there might be problems but actually like that's the point right is that like sort of centrist quote-unquote mainstream forces no point denying this stuff is happening right because the truth is i suppose the the truth is is that what seems to be happening it seems to me anyway is that like you know you've got these insurgent forces who are basically pointing to this stuff whether it's like yakub's ragtag bunch on the kind of i don't know i was about to call it the left it's not really the left but like i don't know what the hell it is but they're you know they're saying it then you've got reform on the right or hard right sort of saying it and then you've got you know i interviewed john cotton earlier the labor leader and he's like this is about unity and it's just not division and it's like it doesn't it seems to literally be almost speaking in another plane of reality and whatever you think about the yakobs or the reforms they are actually talking about stuff totally that's real right they are pointing it and going this is shit basically this is terrible this is awful i think absolutely i The terrible thing that Labour have done is they've taken the city for granted.

43:01And they think that, obviously, as a working class industrial city at its heart, they've gone like, well, we'll get in anyway. And this is the first year where there's going to be a little bit of a reckoning. And we're now all going to have to suffer because of this, because they've taken everyone for granted. I think that is a realistic solid. Like you said, it's just, you know, these buzzwords, it's boring, isn't it? It's not what people want to hear. You know, people, you can't try and convince people that they're not seeing what they're seeing. You know, people's cars are getting robbed all the time.

43:26and this is a fact and this is in nice areas and not nice areas it doesn't matter where you are in Birmingham so these things every time we speak to someone who owns a business in Birmingham Jat's got loads of mates who own restaurants everyone's just fed up very few people feels like anarchic very few people are having a good time at the moment feels anarchic yeah and there's some beautiful people honestly Birmingham's full of so many wicked people and that's it's not us being all doom and gloom that is a new thing and these poor people they're just trying to live but that that's clearly an intention you know when you said to me at the start of year when we were talking about this that i mean one of the reasons obviously business isn't working hotly that you'd be scared to go to the city center i don't know a lot of people would yeah my partner danny she's pretty uh she's pretty streetwise she'll take most people on but she she said coming out of new street there's a bit by a be at one bar if you go there at night is or it's horrible there like it's it's free and i think there's a lot of people that would avoid city centre now yeah i don't when you agree city centre's pretty it's pretty rough that bit around new street station they agree yeah to a degree to a degree i think i think you know i think we can we can put down the city a lot but i think you know there's there's still people trying to do things of course yeah yeah yeah but we're just being sort of forgotten about in terms of yeah the politics yeah i was actually talking to my wife about this because my wife is from um which is Kenyan-Indian.

44:52And one of the greatest things about this city is its multicultural. So all the things we celebrated, you look at UB40, you look at everything that goes with that. And it definitely feels divisive. Obviously, you spoke to people like Amag Yacoub, it feels like he's trying to be divisive. But also, you can look at the other side with the razor colours, but like, you know, the razor colours guys are from Bronze Grove, they're coming into the city, they're all being stuff like that. The city that I grew up in, which is multicultural, feels like it's being divided by people like this. They're as much as each other, aren't they?

45:24They've got their interest in actually making the things that make Birmingham great and all the things that we celebrate.

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46:44at the start of this piece I said that Birmingham was a microcosm of British politics British politics as it is in 2026 and British politics to come and leaving my home city I have never been more convinced that that is the case not just because of the complicated electoral arithmetic and not just because of the complicated ways in which first past the post and five-party or six-party politics results in complicated election outcomes and all the complexities that arise from that in terms of governing a city of this size and scale but also as we've talked about because what we are seeing in Birmingham is the same story that we are seeing played out not just in this country but around the world, which is that we have mainstream politicians and mainstream politics from Keir Starmer down, who, as I say, appears very often to have little to say and in so far as they do, don't have a very interesting way of saying it.

47:49And into that vacuum we see Yacoub, into that vacuum we see Nigel Farage and Reform. They didn't assent to our request for an interview, by the way, if you're wondering where they were. You would think with the Harbour money, the£12 million, that they might have enough press officers and resources to grant our silly old little podcast and interview, but that's by the by. The point is, is that mainstream politics in this city and absolutely everywhere else has to have something to say beyond, as we've heard here, bromides about being together and being united as opposed to division what does that mean in practice because it is so similar to what and the sort of things that keir starmer talks about because ultimately the story of birmingham and birmingham politics is a story that we see everywhere in this country we have had 20 years of immiseration we've had 20 years of declining living standards or stagnant living standards which you can see the products and fruits of the rancid fruits of all around us in this city and beyond and until such time as mainstream politics and centre-left politics and centre-right politics has something to say about that and crucially something to do the coups the farrages the whoever will fill the gap and we'll keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and run our politics away with them.

49:25That is it from us from Birmingham. For those of us, or for those of you watching from YouTube, I'm off to play bowls. I'm also on Thursday night going to be presenting LBC's election night coverage from 10pm until 6am. So make sure you listen to that or you can watch on YouTube or Global Player. And we'll also be back on Friday afternoon with a special election podcast, election show, which you'll be able to watch on YouTube or wherever you get podcasts. as normal. We will be back then. See you on Friday after what should be a pretty remarkable night in British politics. This has been a Global Player original production.

From the publisher

It’s polling day in elections across Great Britain. Labour is braced for a battering, at the hands of insurgent forces on every side. Birmingham is a microcosm of that picture: an unloved Labour administration dealing with complex problems and complex politics.

But here it’s not just the Greens and Reform the party must contend with, but the rise of the so-called Gaza independents. A new political force appealing largely to British Muslims who, like everyone else, are disatissfied with the status quo.

Is this really a new sectarian politics, as the newspapers suggest? And if it is - should we be concerned about who is propelling those forces? With the control of the biggest local authority in Europe up for grabs, Lewis has gone home to England’s second city to find out.

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