75. The Hunt for Pablo Escobar: The War on Drugs (Ep 2)

16:19Gordon:And you need scale to do this. And the size of these shipments, this is what is financing Pablo's empire and this cocaine glut in Medellin is how do you go from individual mules taking small amounts into the US.

16:37David:Swallowing it or hiding it in their luggage or something like that. That's the start of it, isn't it? And now we're moving to kind of industrial scale size. Yeah. How do you fill a plane with cocaine and get it into the US?

16:51Gordon:And they stitch together these air routes that go from Colombia and in some cases hopscotch across the Caribbean, Gordon, not the Caribbean. Very good. to reach Miami or Louisiana. They have these smuggling planes. They operate. They actually have windows in Colombian airspace, which have been obtained by the cartel, usually by bribing officers in the military where these planes can take off and land. Loaded with product, they'll fly at night, usually without lights. The pilots wear night vision goggles. When they enter U.S. airspace in this period, a lot of it is in Florida and Louisiana. They'll fly low and slow.

17:29Gordon:So they look like helicopters that, for example, in Louisiana might be coming ashore from rigs. The planes will follow radar beacons to remote sites in swamps. For example, cocaine will get dropped into swamps and then helicopters be dispatched to recover the product, take it to offloading sites where the shipments are broken down and then sent out to various markets by carload. So they build up this fleet of planes. In some cases, these planes can carry a thousand kilos a piece. So you got the air, but the safest way to do this is by submarine, right? So they build miniature remote-controlled submarines.

18:04Gordon:In many cases, they're hiring engineers and sort of boat manufacturers on the side to do this stuff at remote sites in Colombia.

18:14David:So they're remote-controlled. So it's like an unmanned drone sub, basically. It's the kind of stuff that they're using in Ukraine now to blow things up. But they were using them back then to move the coke.

18:22Gordon:I think the longer distance shipments probably did have a captain on the submarine, but they would take these to, you know, waters off Puerto Rico, divers remove the shipment, and then they take it to Florida and speedboats, right? Because Florida has like 8 ,000 miles of coastline. So there's a lot of opportunities to smuggle things in. Now, the way this works is the shipments are going to be consolidated into loads that are controlled by Pablo's organization. And so in many cases, the cocaine that's on these shipments, some other trafficker who might be on the fringes of the cartel has sourced it, but doesn't have the route to get into the US.

18:57Gordon:And so if they want to put a small quantity of coke on one of Pablo's submarines or planes, they do that. And Pablo charges them a fee, right? He charges them 10 % of the wholesale US price, right? And so if the shipment's interdicted, Pablo will repay you, but only for what the load cost in Colombia. So he's essentially charging a tax for transporting these kind of massive shipments of cocaine into the US. And the retail price is so insanely high. It's around$40 ,000 per kilo in Miami. But in Medellin, the wholesale price is like$8 ,000 to$9 ,000 per kilo. So you get a sense of how massively high margin this business is.

19:36Gordon:And maybe one or two shipments need to make it to the states on average to cover the cost of four to five lost loads. And if you think the DEA or U.S. Customs and Border Patrol or the Coast Guard are interdicting that much, think again, because at the time, the interdiction rate is maybe one in 10 at best.

19:56David:So that gives us a sense of just how organized and how big a business this is. Worth saying, though, this isn't the only cartel in Colombia at the time. There's another one, isn't there?

20:05Gordon:Yeah, there's another cartel, the Cali cartel down in the south. So we're focused, of course, in the series on Pablo and Medellin, but he's by no means the only cocaine baron in business in Colombia in the 1970s and 1980s. And the other facet of this that is going to, I mean, really frame so much of the rest of the story is that the Colombian government is stressed by this influx of so much money. The money is just absolutely pouring in. It's not just a Medellin, but it starts to infect Bogota. Between 1976 and 1980, bank deposits in Colombia's four major cities, more than double. There's so much cocaine money that has come into the country.

20:50Gordon:The government in this period actually encourages the creation of these kind of speculative funds that offer crazy high interest rates. And they're kind of set up as ostensibly legitimate investments in speculative markets. But it is really a front so that legitimate Colombian businessmen and investors can invest in these shipments of cocaine. Maybe it's a stretch to say the government is in on it, but there's definitely a period here in the late 70s where the government is just dealing with a society that is awash in cocaine money and having to figure out, can you prevent Colombia from becoming a narco state?

21:25David:And then comes, I guess, a key moment in our story, because you've talked there a bit about the risks to the state of this amount of money pouring in. And we've also established Pablo's kind of desire to be the big man. And so he is going to make a move which I think will change everything for him because he possibly could have survived as that drug kingpin in Medellin for a while longer, certainly. But it is this step he takes next, which is to go himself into politics, which is really going to draw attention to himself and change everything for him, isn't it?

22:05Gordon:There is a reason why we're not doing a six-part podcast on the people who ran the Cali cartel, because Pablo is absolutely the shaping force of the dip into politics and, frankly, what is going to become a war with the state eventually. because in 1978, Pablo gets elected as a substitute city council member in Medellin. He starts to finance presidential campaigns that year. So putting money into politics, right? What in Colombia at the period was called hot money. So it's drug money that was designed to influence the politics. In 1980, Pablo helps finance the formation of a new political party, which is headed by this enormously popular reformer named Luis Galán.

22:50Gordon:And then in 1982, Two, Pablo runs for Congress and he stands as a substitute for the representative in Envigado. And we should say in the Colombian system, you have members of Congress essentially have an alternate.

23:04David:So if you can't make it, then the alternate can come and vote and stand in your place, basically. Exactly. But also, I mean, that seems to give him access into politics and some of the advantages of that. I mean, I think that's perhaps one of the things that's driving him as well, as well as the the ego and the power is the fact that it possibly also offers him a form of protection as well by being in the political game, by having that kind of influence in Bogota.

23:29Gordon:And one of the minor advantages, I guess, of the status for Pablo is the post-substitute confers automatic judicial immunity, which you can see how that might be useful. And he gets a diplomatic visa, which he uses to start traveling to the US. In this period, there's some wonderful pictures of him with his son at Disney World. He already owns property in Miami, but now he can finally enjoy some of those Miami mansions. He visits the White House also with his son in this period. So you can see how there's a lot of advantages to Pablo for being in politics. The cynical view could be, okay, he gets judicial immunity and the ability to sort of corrupt the system from the inside.

24:07Gordon:But then on the other side, I think Pablo sort of looks at this and says, well, Colombia is kind of me, right? Medellin is me, and it's good for everybody if I have more power. It is the trajectory of the Godfather films, isn't it?

24:20David:He is following that story quite closely, isn't it? I suppose the difference is he doesn't want to get out of the mafia business and go legit and then get pulled back in. He wants to do both. He wants to be in politics and still run the drug business.

24:33Gordon:That's a great point. And what do you think, Gordon from a new congressman in the Colombian system in 1982. What is the centerpiece of Pablo Escobar's national political program?

24:44David:Anti-corruption? Anti-corruption.

24:48Gordon:Close. Extradition.

24:50David:Oh, why would he be worried? It's an obscure choice, isn't it? It's not the kind of thing, if you're the man of the people, that you would campaign on the most important issue. if you really cared about the poor, your political kind of agenda is preventing the extradition of people to the United States. But you can kind of see why for him, he might have a little interest in that.

25:11Gordon:Well, I'll do you one better on that. You could definitely spin it as a man of the people thing. I mean, this is a violation of Colombia's national sovereignty, right? And he's standing firm. The background to this is that in 1979, Colombia signed a treaty with the United States that recognizes the shipment of illegal drugs to be a crime against the US. And in some of the legalese in that treaty, it basically allows for drug traffickers in Colombia to be extradited to the US for trial. You can imagine why Pablo and others in the cartel would rather face Colombian justice than American justice.

25:52Gordon:Pablo denounces this as a violation of national sovereignty, as I said, and it's not ratified by both countries until 1981. So in 81, a year before he joins the Congress, this extradition treaty has come into force. I think we should say that not every member of the Colombian political establishment has sort of made their peace with drug trafficking, as we'll see. But many have. And I think Pablo would say in this period that his business, it's not so different from the ones that most of the Colombian elite have traditionally benefited from, right? So he would say slavery, tobacco, golden emerald smuggling, a lot of the big families in Bogota have sort of built fortunes off of really nasty businesses.

26:47Gordon:What's the difference with cocaine, right? Again, the cartels are not really pushing the cocaine in Colombia. They're selling it for export. So he's taking back money that the Americans have stolen from Colombians, right, and giving it to poor across the nation. And it is in this period when And he's profiled in a really important Bogota newspaper as the Paisa Robin Hood, the Robin Hood of Medellin.

27:12David:So you can see what he's trying to do here, but you also get the sense that he overplays his hand, doesn't he? He's pushing too far. And also, you know, he's coming up against that Bogota elite, which I think perhaps are not comfortable with. You can imagine this rough, tough, perhaps slightly coarser Medellin boy who they know is a drug lord becoming part of the political elite. And that's the bit where I think you can just sense that he's pushing too hard and he's willing to go too far. And that's going to force a crisis.

27:48Gordon:Maybe there, Gordon, let's take a break. And when we come back, we'll see how Pablo Escobar's dashed hopes for respectability turn into a war against the state.

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29:44David:Well, welcome back. and Pablo Escobar is trying to make the move from drug kingpin into politics, David. It's a natural jump for any drug kingpin.

29:57Gordon:But it's not going to work out for him, is it? It's fair to say. No, it does not work out. And ultimately, his attempts, I think, to be a respectable figure, not just in Bogota, but in Colombian politics writ large, are going to be dashed. And I think this is a major driver for what's to come because he is rejected for the most part by polite Colombian society and builds some really powerful enemies. And of course, what good story of being socially spurned wouldn't start with being rejected for your country club application, right? So there's an old kind of establishment country club in Medellin called Club Campestre, which is the kind of traditional ruling class, some of whom Pablo Escobar has kidnapped, right?

30:46Gordon:are kind of the mainstay at this club. Pablo applies for membership and he's rejected, which I think also says that the country club has stood up to him potentially more than the central government in Bogota at this point.

30:59David:I was going to make the analogy. It's like one of those gentlemen's clubs in London. It's like the Garrick blackballing you. But it is true that I don't think, A, they probably wouldn't allow a drug lord in, but especially one who kidnapped half the members.

31:11Gordon:No, I think that overstates his kidnapping prowess by that point. But when Pablo tries to take his seat in Congress, it provokes a political storm. Now, in 1983, there is a new justice minister in Bogota. And the justice minister in the Colombian system is, I guess, comparable in the U.S. system to our attorney general. So like the most senior sort of enforcer of the law, right, in the land, right? So it's a really important post. I don't know what would be the equivalent in the U.K. Well, we have an attorney general, but I don't think it's quite the same. Okay. This is Justice Minister Rodrigo Lara Bonilla, who denounces Pablo during a public hearing in Bogota.

31:54Gordon:Now, Justice Minister Lara had been a pretty vociferous opponent of the drug traffickers prior to his appointment. So this is very much in step, and it gives you a sense of the war that's going on to some degree inside the Colombian government over whether or how much influence the narcos will have in the state, right? But Lara, in referring to Pablo's fortune, says, quote, this is an economic power concentrated in a few hands and in criminal minds. What they cannot obtain by blackmail, they get by murder. And days after this confrontation, there's sort of a PR frenzy against Pablo.

32:35David:Yeah, it opens the floodgates, doesn't it? In which newspapers and others suddenly feel like, okay, Because everyone must have known it before, but it's given the newspapers and others the license to say he is a drug lord and a criminal mastermind.

32:46Gordon:That's right. This Bogota newspaper unearths stories from its files of Pablo's 1976 arrest, that arrest we talked about for drug trafficking. They've got mugshots of Pablo and his cousin, Gustavo. And I think it makes it a lot harder with this out there for Pablo to separate himself from his cocaine business. Now, humorously, Pablo sends men around Medellin to try to buy up copies of the paper, which of course backfires and fuels even more interest in the story. The Justice Minister Lara then publicizes that six of the nine teams in Colombia's top soccer league are owned or partly owned by traffickers.

33:23Gordon:There's like a whole interesting side story around the influence of cocaine money in Colombian, real serious Colombian soccer back in the 1970s and 1980s. Then there is a renewed criminal investigation into the deaths of those policemen who had arrested Pablo. Remember those two DAS agents? It's really not the police. It's the Colombian FBI had been involved in Pablo's arrest on those cocaine trafficking charges. They are killed. And there's a new warrant that is issued for Pablo's arrest. And then, surprise, the judge who issues that warrant is murdered. There's also a documentary that airs that accuses Pablo of being Colombia's premier drug trafficker worth billions.

34:08Gordon:He denies the accusation. He then gets kicked out of the new liberal party. Congress begins proceedings to lift his immunity. The U.S. revokes his diplomatic visa. The Catholic Church begins to renounce Pablo's social programs. This is like a full court press on Pablo. And then the Justice Minister Lara signs an arrest and extradition order for another major narco trafficker who is involved in the Medellin cartel. He's not one of Pablo's principal guys, but he's important. And he's actually extradited to the US. And so it's the first time that 1979 agreement has been implemented. So we've gone from a potential threat to now a demonstrated threat from the government of what they can do to members of the cartel.

34:59David:And so effectively, everything has turned against him after this point. I mean, the whole thing he was building is collapsing. And his political career, I guess, is over at this point. But the interesting thing is that that threat about the United States and the extradition, that has become the overriding worry for him, hasn't it? Because to some extent, he knows he's not really going to face justice in Colombia. be. He's shown you can kind of bribe and murder. You can use silver and lead to stop that. But the US is something different. And I guess it is also at this time that the US is starting to kind of ramp up its war on drugs.

35:37Gordon:Listeners who so far have said, wait a minute, there hasn't been a whole lot of spy agencies involved in the story. Well, we are about to scratch that itch here. And we'll do it by setting up the American involvement in really the sort of hunt for Pablo Escobar. So Nixon, of course, Gordon famously declares the war on drugs in 1971. The DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration, is founded in 1973. But throughout much of the 70s, so the story so far, the US has paid basically no attention to Pablo Escobar, or really even to Colombian cocaine trafficking in general. But by the late 70s, early 80s, certainly the time that sort of Pablo is entering politics, this is really changing.

36:24Gordon:And the focus of the war on drugs is shifting from what initially had been a lot of like, how do you deal with the drug epidemic through prevention and treatment to how do you deal with it through punishment and law enforcement? So the war on drugs is becoming more militarized. Going after supply rather than dealing with demand. Demand is hard. And this is a really important piece of like, why does Pablo actually come into the sights of the CIA and Delta Force and the DEA, right? The war on drugs in a lot of the 70s is this kind of amorphous problem of like, how might I interdict shipments of drugs into the United States, right?

37:08Gordon:That is a super amorphous smuggling problem that is, I think, harder for the public and frankly, even harder for political leaders to really get behind and try to finance because it just feels like you have this massive demand pull and suppliers willing to meet it. But if you're just occasionally busting shipments in Miami, is it worth the investment? The emphasis really starts to shift to what are some good enemies that we might have in this war on drugs, right? Right. Cocaine billionaires in Colombia who are giving people Colombian neckties and walking around with giant mustaches and having insane parties in Medellin and wreaking general havoc on Colombian society.

37:53Gordon:Those guys make for good bad guys. Those are ready made bad guys. Right. President Reagan in 1982 appoints a cabinet level task force, which is led by then Vice President George H.W. Bush. to coordinate kind of this new phase of the war on drugs, right? So we don't yet have the concerted intelligence and special operations focus on the Medellin cartel that is coming. But we're getting a much more hardline and militarized perspective on how we might score wins in the war on drugs.

38:29David:And so two things kind of have intersected, haven't they? You've got the US becoming more concerned about the war on drugs, realizing they're kind of unable to stop the demand side at home. And so wanting to go after it, you know, at root, as they see it was the enemy, at the same time as Escobar has put his head above the parapet in politics, and become more public and become identified, partly because of his own ego, as the most visible of these drug lords behind it. So those two things really come together in that period in the early 80s.

39:01Gordon:And I think attitudes toward cocaine in particular are shifting in the US, right? So Len Bias, who's the number two pick in the NBA draft in 1986, he dies after snorting cocaine at a campus party. John Belushi dies after injecting a combination of heroin and cocaine in LA in the mid 80s. So you have these high profile instances of kind of the awful effects of the drug that are starting to change the perception of it's like the line from Snowblind we quoted in the last episode of, you know, it's like flying to Paris for breakfast, right? Glamorous. It's glamorous. Well, no, look at the effect it's having on these, you know, athletes and celebrities.

39:45Gordon:And really importantly, we have the crack epidemic in the States where crack being very cheap, dirty, smokable version. And there's this real shift in American elites of like, oh, cocaine is this drug of the glitterati to guys like Pablo Escobar are fueling a social epidemic in the United States. So all of this stuff is swirling together. Pablo's the most visible guy in the Colombian context. And at the same time, the CIA took us a long time to mention the CIA, Gordon. I just feel a sense of relief. Unusual for you. It is. I just feel a deep sense of relief at being able to say those three letters.

40:24Gordon:The CIA in the early to mid 80s starts to notice links between the narco traffickers and Colombian guerrilla groups that are leftist Marxist, right? So you think about this is this is a sort of peak Cold War context, right? The idea that the CIA is looking all over Latin America for connections between revolutionary groups, leftist groups and the Soviet Union, right? And CIA, in an intelligence estimate in 1983, notes that there are growing links between groups like the FARC, M19 is another one, this kind of urban guerrilla movement in Colombia, and the narco traffickers. So the guerrilla groups are finding it much more profitable, unsurprisingly, to join with the narcos than to fight them, right?

41:15Gordon:And the CIA report says that in some areas, the FARC had established quotas, taxes, wages, rules for workers, producers and owners in the coca field. So there's this meshing of the narcotics business with communism.

41:29David:And it's easy to forget we are in the 80s and in the Cold War. And in a period in which the US is, and the CIA particularly, is doing some pretty aggressive things in Latin and Central America to fight communism and to fight left-wing guerrillas. I mean, the kind of dirty wars, there's lots of pretty ruthless things which are going on there. And I guess this is the moment where that starts to feed into the issue of drugs and the cartels and gives, in a way, a reason for the CIA to focus on this and to get involved when you've also got the political imperative of the war on drugs as well.

42:08Gordon:Communism and cocaine, Gordon. The point is, is that it was absolutely not interesting or novel to be using the CIA, or special forces or the military or any other intel or security agency to sort of go after communist influence, right? But using them to go after drugs, that's kind of new in the 1970s and 1980s. And the Colombians, the Colombian state is a US ally. There are deep connections between Bogota and Washington. And Lara, the justice minister, is a key US ally in Colombia. And so with the permission of Justice Minister Lara, the US Department of State has begun testing herbicides on coca fields.

42:57Gordon:And in March of 1984, so just a couple months after Pablo has sort of withdrawn from politics, effectively, government strikes some pretty heavy blows against the Medellin cartel. So there is a raid on a massive cocaine processing facility in the southern jungles. It's called Tranquilandia. It's a complex of 14 labs and camps housing a bunch of workers. 14 metric tons of cocaine are seized in this raid. which is the largest find up to that point in history. And in the weeks prior to that, the Colombians with American assistance had found and destroyed seven airstrips, handful of aircraft, 12 ,000 chemical drums.

43:41Gordon:We talked about those chemical precursors are so important to the production of cocaine. The total haul that's destroyed is probably worth about a billion dollars. Serious money. Serious money. And it's the worst financial month ever for the Medellin cartel. And you actually can see this. I mean, a lot of times these raids have no impact on the dynamics of supply and demand. But after this set of raids, the price, the retail price of cocaine goes way up in the US. So it's having an effect. There's a supply disruption, right? Which means that the entire cartel is not making money. So what happens?

44:16Gordon:What do they do? Well, the first thing you do in a situation like this is you meet at a restaurant in Medellin called Tasty Little Things, Gordon. So Tasty Little Things is a little, I guess, cafe that the cartel members frequent. Pablo's there. He's probably in charge. A contract goes out. It's worth$500 ,000. This contract, we'll talk about what that is in a second, is picked up by a Medellin murder gang, sicarios that are associated with the cartel. They soon fill a car with guns, grenades, bulletproof vests. They drive from Medellin to Bogota. One of the hitmen, not the main guy, but one of them is known as the Croker, which I just wanted to be able to say on the podcast, so I included his name in here.

45:00Gordon:And on April 30th, 1984, Justice Minister Lara is riding in the backseat of his chauffeured Mercedes sedan. Motorcycle pulls alongside and hitmen dispatched by the Medellin cartel shoot him seven times. the cartel has killed not a local Medellin judge or a police officer. But the justice minister. The justice minister of the country of Colombia. It is the first time a sitting Colombian cabinet minister had been assassinated. And it's essentially an act of war against the state.

45:36David:I mean, this is a big moment, isn't it? Because you've moved from, you know, kind of low level criminality to basically going, I'm going to assassinate cabinet ministers who take me on. I mean, this is a declaration of war. I mean, it's a miscalculation, I think, again, by Pablo, isn't it? It's again, goes back to ego. Because if you declare war, you've got to expect the state to respond and they're going to, aren't they?

46:00Gordon:This is where the American role just gets deeper and deeper. Because as we said, the justice minister was not just an ally of the US, but I think a friend of the ambassador and someone who was seen as a true partner between Washington and Bogota to try to reduce the influence of these cartels, again, that are seen as the sort of, you know, collaborators with Marxist guerrillas, right? And Bogota, the Colombian government strikes back. So they begin confiscating estates and assets that belong to members of the Medellin cartel. The president, the Colombian president, sort of vows that he'll enforce the extradition treaty with Washington, which had kind of been this political football in this period, right, of when and how will it actually be used.

46:43Gordon:And a lot of members of the cartel, they go to Panama City and try to sit this thing out, right? A lot of the kingpins gather there. Now, Noriega, Manuel Noriega, who's the commander of the Panamanian army at this time, is kind of basically in cahoots with the cartel to provide them safe haven for a fee. And they go and sit in Panama for a while. And interestingly, I mean, pretty much right after fleeing Pablo tries to work out a deal to go back, right? So there are some Colombian officials that get sent up to Panama City to try to deal with Pablo to figure out if an agreement can be reached. It's interesting, Pablo is being negotiated with not like he's a common criminal, but I mean, like he's a political force.

47:25David:No, I find this really interesting, because I mean, this has become a theme throughout the coming parts of the story, is that he is dealt with almost, as you said, as a political force who they've got to negotiate with. And he's got a clear agenda, which is he basically doesn't want to be extradited to the US. And so they're constantly looking at ways of doing deals. And what you sense is, even though he's killed the justice minister, the powers that be in Bogota don't actually want to go for a full war with him. They'd rather do a deal than unleash the full scale violence that would come from a war.

48:02David:And with all the repercussions there might be. So it's fascinating, isn't it? There's constantly negotiations and back and forth between government representatives and Pavlik. In his mind, the only reason that he's

48:14Gordon:potentially going to get a deal is because he killed the justice minister. I don't think he views this as a mistake, right? Or some sort of unnecessary escalation that brings him to the brink. I think for him, and again, this will be a pattern throughout the rest of his life, the ratcheting up of violence against the state, and in some cases, just outright terrorist violence against civilians, is all part of a negotiation to get the government to say, we've had enough, let's give Pablo what he wants. And Pablo, sitting there in Panama City, puts together a six-page written proposal that's addressed to the Colombian president.

48:54Gordon:He denies responsibility for the death of the justice minister, pledges support for the government. He says, look, we represent maybe 70 to 80 % of the Colombian cocaine business. We will turn over our airstrips and our labs to the government. We'll sell off the boats and the planes. We'll set up substitution programs to help farmers grow things other than coca. This is going to be a theme in Colombia for the next four decades is how do you get the farmers to grow things other than coca plants. And then in exchange, Pablo wants a change in the extradition treaty and to be forgiven for his past crimes.

49:30Gordon:And there's a significant amount of U.S. pressure on the Colombians to not do this deal. And I think many in the Colombian government don't want to do the deal. The deal is rejected. Pablo is kind of stuck in this outlaw status in his mind, right? He's out of the country, which he doesn't like. And it's interesting because in this period, you could see a world where he just kind of goes and settles somewhere else.

49:52David:But he wants to go back, doesn't he? I mean, whether he'd really give up his drug business as he's claiming, I don't know. But he certainly wants to go back rather than live the life of a rich exon. I think that's interesting. And actually, Panama is not going to be necessarily that welcoming to him. So I think Noriega works out pretty quickly that having him there is actually pretty uncomfortable.

50:13Gordon:Bringing the global coke business to your doorstep is not necessarily good for political stability, right? We see yet another nexus of communism and cocaine, Gordon, because Pablo flees to Nicaragua from Panama, where the Sandinistas, the Marxist Sandinistas are in control. And I guess it's hard for younger Brits, Americans, really anybody to think about a world where a lot of US foreign policy is focused on Nicaragua. But it was the case in the 1980s that there was a tremendous amount of interest in what was going on in Nicaragua, in Washington, right? It's this kind of focal point of the global war against communist influence that Reagan's White House is fighting.

50:58Gordon:And there's an American pilot and coke trafficker who is busted by the DEA in Florida. And rather than spend six decades in prison, he decides to become an informant. And he flies to Managua, Nicaragua in 1984 to pick up a 750 kilo coke shipment. There's a camera in the nose of the plane that shows Pablo and a few associates that are supervising the unloading. And this footage really sets off alarm bells in DC because what we have now is a connection between the Marxist Sandinista regime, who have allowed this Koch cartel to essentially have safe haven in Managua, and these Colombian Koch traffickers.

51:42Gordon:So this is helpful to the Reagan White House. They're trying to get Congress to continue funding the Contras in Nicaragua.

51:49David:The Iran-Contra affair, which will come later, which is one of the great scandals in Washington. which is them trying to get round congressional restrictions on funding the countries. So the nexus between drugs and communism, they've realized, I guess, is a way of trying to get support within Washington to do something here.

52:07Gordon:So the photos of Pablo and the Colombian coke traffickers in Nicaragua, they mysteriously leaked Gordon to the Washington Post. Amazing. Amazing. It's amazing how that happens. thereby making the administration's case that there is this sort of connection between Colombian coke traffickers and communism. Now, footnote on that poor DEA turned pilot is he's killed two years later, probably murdered by one of Pablo's paid gunmen in Baton Rouge. The pilot had refused to enter the witness protection program and was hunted down and killed. Pablo is indicted in Miami for his role in this shipment. And soon after that, had a car bomb goes off outside the US ambassador's residence in Bogota.

52:52Gordon:And for those who don't know all the ins and outs of the story, there are plenty of car bombs to come in this war against the state.

52:59David:But putting one outside the US ambassador's residence is again now a bit of a message. Yeah, it's a message. He's already targeted the justice minister and now he's targeting the US government. So he's not backing down.

53:10Gordon:So what do you do, Gordon? You're stuck in Nicaragua. I think in this period, it's sort of hard to run a drug cartel remotely, you know, and so he, I mean, feeling a bit of his control slipping in Medellin, a gang of kidnappers had actually taken Pablo's 73-year-old father hostage in October of 1984. Pablo's gunmen are scouring Medellin looking for him. They killed dozens of people who were associated with the kidnappers. And then 16 days later, his father is released unharmed. There's no ransom paid. Apparently, the kidnappers are just intimidated into letting him go. But it gives you the sense of like, the cords of his authority are fraying a little bit with Pablo in exile in Panama and then Nicaragua.

53:55Gordon:And so even though he faces tremendous legal jeopardy by returning to Colombia, he decides to come home. He goes back to Medellin and has a line that's been attributed to him that says, better a tomb in Colombia than a prison cell in the United States. So he returns in 1984 and he will never leave Colombia again.

54:21David:And so there, with Pablo Escobar back in Colombia, I think we should stop. And next time, we'll see how it's far from a quiet life on his return. Instead, the violence is going to escalate really dramatically, and the US is going to become much more deeply involved. That's right.

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