Bellingham saves England and sets up semi-final v Argentina and Messi

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2:08Alan Shearer:Hello and welcome to the Rest is Football. England have made it through to the semi-finals of the World Cup where they'll play Argentina, the first time Messi has ever played against England. We'll be discussing that and much more with Micah Richards, Joe Cole and Ali McCoy. And don't forget, if you prefer to watch the show, it's available on Netflix. Jude Benningham. Superstar. From a neutral perspective. Superstar. Yeah. Absolute superstar. I mean, you and I were speaking about him, right? Yeah. I mentioned the incident. He's got the ball, he's run towards the touchline, he's got three players running him.

2:46I said to Gary, he'll keep this. And he's got no right to keep it. And he keeps it, gets a free kick. See when you've got gold dust like that in your team and Harry Kane is the other one, you've always got a chance.

3:00Alan Shearer:He is a superstar. He is. I would go as far as to say, I think there's a chance that I think he could well be or end up being England's greatest ever footballer. And that is a big shout. We've had some really great players. Some of them have not necessarily done it for their country. Others have. Go back to people like Bobby Charlton, obviously, I would say, would have to be up there. You would put Harry Kane in that bracket. And there are other players as well. But I think at this age, to be doing what he's doing and to grab him in England by the scruff and getting them over the line, that is a superstar reaction I think it's just incredible incredible what he's doing Joe he's definitely in the conversation I remember when he turned up when he was about 18 in England squad and I was talking to a few of the lads Declan and people out there they go this kid's unbelievable when you hear players talk about it it makes you excited because media can talk about it press everyone else can talk about it when the players were training him every day and top players are excited by him He's in the conversation.

4:08Alan Shearer:When he was a child, a child, and they retired his number. Yes. Everyone in the game's going, what's going on here? This is a bit of an overreaction. See his goals, right? He scores all sorts of goals. You know what I mean? His first goal today, first touch is brilliant, second touch is good, third touch is good, and the fourth touch is magnificent. And then his second goal is a centre forwards goal. Yeah. I mean, I think he's got the ability to be a nine. I think he's got that natural movement in the box. We've seen it this one got repeatedly. He's played there for Real Madrid. He's played there for Real Madrid.

4:47Alan Shearer:I mean, when I spoke to Thomas Tuchel, I did, and he said that he thought he was probably, if something happened to Kane, he might play him as a nine, which wouldn't surprise me. He runs and he chases and he harries, but you need a player. You need someone with such a big personality to drag you over the line sometimes. Definitely. I wanted to ask you, Joe. You played in that position. He's playing essentially number 10 for England. What do you like about his game? Why is he so good? Yes, Gazzard's mentioned his personality. We all know he's got that. He's got that stature. He's playing for Real Madrid.

5:24He's got that confidence. But in terms of the tactical and the technical aspect, why does he shine so much? He takes responsibility in all aspects of the game. If you watch him off the ball, he leads the press. England have been really good on the press. When we got the ball, you can't mark him because I was a number 10. I like to come to feet and find pockets. I wasn't really good at running in behind. I used to do it, but almost as like a gesture. Because you have to do it with your team to sometimes make space for other people. When he does it, you see he runs with purpose. Like, in every aspect, he's the most complete.

6:02When you said, Gary, is he going to be the best England player of all time? At the moment, you can't really argue with that because you look at his attributes and go, he's actually the most complete player. I love Glenn Hoddle. I think Glenn Hoddle's the best player I've seen. Harry Kane would have been that, obviously. But Glenn can't run like Jude. Yeah. But Jude can pass like Glenn. Yeah. Not quite like Glenn. Do you know what he can do? Not quite like Glenn. Not quite like Glenn. Do you know what he can do, boys, right? in arguably his biggest quality. He can pass, his movement's good, he's strong, everything he can play, in general, his skills win the game.

6:35But do you know what he is more than anything? You watch him. He's a winner.

6:39Alan Shearer:He's a winner. He's a winner, man. Absolutely, absolutely. He's now got seven World Cup goals. I mean, for crying out loud, Kane's gone, I'm going to be third. On that list, he's looking great now. It's not bad, is it? Oh, my God, Hurricane 14. and he's and Poxy 10 Alan Shearer didn't want him to start at the World can we have a chat about this we need to have a chat because I don't know if he was here close to finish before the tournament a certain Alan Shearer said he shouldn't start for England Morgan Rodgers is a fantastic player I suggested and came on and did really really well and made the goal yeah but I suggested the potential could start together he could play off the lead Morgan Rodgers but he said Jude Bellingham should not start for England.

7:33He's the number one putter at BBC, by the way. A taxpayer's money as well. A taxpayer's money. They want the money back. Hurry up and get back here, will you? So you can defend yourself.

7:48Alan Shearer:I'm going to ask a really important question. Is it a silent H in Bellingham? But what is it? You said Bellingham and it's made me think. Bellingham? I'm from Birmingham, that's what we say. Bellingham? Bellingham? Do you agree? Well, I'm born in Birmingham. I would have to say that, but he said it! He said it! Bellingham's from Birmingham. He's also joined the Golden Boot Race. Same as Harry Kane. No pens. It's the first time two players have scored six goals or more, I think, in World Cup history. Look at that list of players on there. You know what's good about that? Everyone's turned up, killing the bad people.

8:24Messi, Haaland, Bellingham, Cade, Bellingham, even sounded well. Vinny Jr, Quinones, I really liked him. You've got six left in it, I think, yeah. Six left in it. Six out of the game.

8:39Alan Shearer:He's amazing. Shall we get a little comment from Alan Sheth. Do we have to? Do we have to? I think it's long overdue after we've stolen it. He's got his miles off the base, guys. He was actually at the game, and after he spoke to Rob Jones.

9:04Just four remain then at this 2026 World Cup, and England into the semifinals for just the fourth time. Alan Shearer has watched them win in a very warm Miami today. Thomas Tuchel speaking after the match, Alan, about being not happy with almost any aspect of the performance, apart from the mentality. The one thing he can take, though, is the results.

9:24Gary Lineker:That's the big picture. That's what they had to do. They had to somehow win the game. They had to get through to the semi-final. And they did that. But there are other things to look at, clearly. They somehow found a way without playing well, particularly second half. I thought they were really poor. Norway came out with a much the better team. And then I was thinking, OK, even after the hydration break, Thomas can get into his players again and they can go again for another 20 or 25 minutes. But it never really happened at all. But you have to say and give him credit, his substitutes worked again.

9:58Gary Lineker:I thought Spence came on. I thought he was absolutely magnificent up and down that left-hand side. I thought the decision to deny him a penalty was a joke. Rodgers obviously played his part, albeit with a shot. The keeper should have saved it. But the brilliant thing about Bellingham is, you know, if you make 100 of those runs, and you're lucky if you just get one, but it's that one that you go for in the hope that the keeper spills it. And his eyes must have lit up when he's seen the keeper spill it and he was able to tap it in and give England another victory, courtesy of two goals again from him.

10:32Gary Lineker:And he's been absolutely outstanding again. I think that, what, four, five man of the matches now has been brilliant. Shall we take a rough estimate of the amount of times Micah has mentioned that you wouldn't have started him at the start of the talk in the last few hours? How many times has he brought that up? I'm sure he's mentioned it a few times. Not to you, though. No one listens to Micah anyway, so it's all right. But he does have this incredible ability to seize the big moment, Jude Bellingham. And we've both watched guys like Messi, Ronaldo, not just do it in World Cups, but time after time, Ronaldo in the latter stages of a Champions League would arrive on the biggest stage.

11:01And Bellingham is doing that in his young career.

11:03Gary Lineker:Yeah, I mean, I've heard people say, goodness me, we're relying too much on him and Kane. I haven't got a problem with that. The big clubs, the big countries rely on the big players. That's why they get paid the big bucks. That's why they're the superstars, because they turn up when you need them most. and he's done that in this tournament, as has Harry Kane, and hopefully he'll have another moment in that semi-final. Interesting that you mentioned Rodgers and the shot that leads to the mistake. I do find sometimes that a lot of teams don't shoot from distance that much and Rodgers, I know, works very hard on his long shooting back at Villa and it's one of those, particularly when you get into extra time, it's worth a crack.

11:41Gary Lineker:Well, I'm actually pleased it was him on the ball because I think if someone had been on the pitch for a long time, i.e. he started the game, I think they would have taken the option of passing it because I'm not sure they had the energy to take that shot. Albeit, as I said, the keeper spilled it. He should have saved it quite easily. But Bellingham was there to stick it away and we're all thankful for that, aren't we? Give me a sense of the occasion. The Norway fans certainly played their part, didn't they? Yeah, they were brilliant. It was a really nice stadium. It was a good atmosphere. The England fans were pretty quiet in the second half, as you can understand, because they had very little to shout about.

12:13Gary Lineker:But once that goal went in, goodness me, they lit up the place and it was great energy from them. So, yeah, a bit of a frustrating night for large periods, but it ended well and that's the most important thing. Let's talk about some of the big officiating incidents as well. You've had a lot to say about VAR this week. So we'll start with one-word answers on the three big ones, I guess. To your mind, was the referee right or the VAR right not to feel it was a foul on Kane for the first Norway goal? Yeah, it wasn't a foul. They won the ball, clearly. and I was quite happy with that decision, albeit not the goal, but I've got no complaints with him not giving a foul.

12:51Right call for the disallowed Norway goal?

12:53Gary Lineker:Yeah, it was a right call because the ball wasn't in play, hence him starting again from a replay for a corner. He'd already pulled them up a few seconds before that as well, so clearly the ball wasn't in play, so that has to go back for a retake of the corner. Right call for the penalty to be overturned? No, I thought that was rubbish. Honestly, I thought it was so bad. I mean, what is Jed Spence meant to do? He's well within his rights to step across him. It's not for the referee to decide where he puts his leg. He put it across him, which you're taught as a forward, as a kid. I know he's not a forward, he's a full-back, but he did everything right.

13:28Gary Lineker:He did his job perfectly. And if the defender is stupid enough to make the challenge, as he did, then you're running the risk of giving a penalty away. So the ref give it, but then for him to say he's got it absolutely wrong and a howler, I thought was nonsense again. And that call is similar. that it's the same VAR as Egypt, Argentina, and again, you're going down the route of re-refereeing the game a little bit. Well, I thought the referee was a really experienced referee. He's played, he's managed big games before, so I was really surprised when the VAR sent him over, but then for him to agree with them, I was really surprised.

14:02Gary Lineker:I just, I thought it was nonsense. It was, for me, it was a clear penalty. Back to New York, is it next? Back to New York in the morning for a couple of days and then heading to Atlanta with everyone on Tuesday for the game on Wednesday. We shall find a social thing for both of us, Enders. You didn't come to 50 Cent last night. How was it? It was very good, very enjoyable. The good news is that Flo Rida is on at the same venue tonight, so I reckon we've just about got time to get there. Oh, she changed her white trousers. Well, it's the nerves of watching England, that's why. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:28Thank you very much indeed. Flo Rida had a great song with the Saturdays once, and England have had a very good Saturday in Florida.

14:38Can we just have another look at what they're wearing, please?

14:44They've come as tweets. They've definitely texted each other before. Wearing beige, top of bright, awful, terrible. What did he say? Hugo Dross. Yes, exactly. Ralph Larendus. Honestly, he's had a bad night. Tommy Hilming is his other one. No, no, Bellingham. The dress. He's talking about the penalty with Spence. I know. I know your thoughts. I agree with him. You agree with him? Yeah, I don't think that's a clear and obvious, Sarah. I disagree. I know you do. Because what Jed Spence has done, he sold it to... Correct. He didn't have to go... He's not in that position usually. He's already in front of him.

15:21He's panicked. I've gone the big leg in front of him and given the referee an opportunity to go across. What you've got here is the classic piece of very slow motion

15:32Alan Shearer:that makes it look like he's put his leg out deliberately to get fouled. What he did? No, no, no. What he's done there, which every striker would do, and Ali would have done this himself, is if you're going through, and whether it's from a wide position like Jed Spencer or going through on goal, you see it loads of times a season, the foul is always given against... So what you do, when the ball... You've got the ball, so then if you get slightly ahead of the defender, you beat him, then what you do is you get yourself in front of them. You mean he sold it too much? He's got the leg. He stuck his leg.

16:08Alan Shearer:Correct. I think it's very nearly a free kick to the defender. Yeah. Well, I'm sticking up for Al because he's had a tough time. I think what happens is he's well within his rates to try and put himself in front, but he doesn't do it. Because I don't think he's really, at that stage, close enough to the ball. I think he's actually obstructing the defenders right away. I totally agree. I know what you're saying about getting your body in front, right? An enormous... Look at a savage.

16:39I totally agree with Joe. I totally agree with Joe. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's done an amazing run. He's been unbelievable and he's thinking, I can't finish here, how can I get a foul? And he's put his legs, wrapped it round. It's not a penalty. He was outstanding when he came on. He was. But it wasn't a penalty.

16:55Alan Shearer:Interesting post-match interviews. I saw both Thomas Tuchel and Jude Bellingham. Slightly contrasting views. I don't think we should read too much into it. Tuchel said, We made life very, very difficult for ourselves today. The result is fantastic. We are in the last four. It's amazing, but I'm not happy with the performance in every sense. The commitment is there, but we made life difficult for us in the way we played and how we played. Sloppy. A lot of technical mistakes. Not fast enough, not repetitive enough. We were lucky today. In the mix zone, Jude was asked about that and also saw in his post-match interview.

17:32Alan Shearer:And I think Jude was a little bit shocked by it because I think sometimes, you know, managers' quotes are not always put to you in context. So Jude said, when he was asked, he said he doesn't know how to play in the heat and conditions. What, referencing Tuchel? Referencing Tuchel, yeah. So I think that was... Harry Kane actually agreed with Tuchel's comments that they didn't play well. But I... Talking about in Bellingham, this is a classic case. We've talked about it in the last couple of weeks about when managers have a little bit of a dig at... When they're not satisfied and you go, well, you try playing out here in 34 degrees centigrade, what it is, and pitches are not great over here generally.

18:23Alan Shearer:And I think you run yourself ragged for 120 minutes and then you get in, you score two goals and then somebody tells you that the manager is not that happy with the performance. But do you know something? So what, right? So what? They've got a different opinion at the end of the game. They've managed to get through. That's all that matters. And do you know something? If you look at it, Thomas Tuchel's right. And so was Al, right? because England did not play well second half and they kind of lost their weight even in the first half after the first hydration break. I agree, but what they didn't tell Jude Bellingham was that he also defended his team when he was asked about their mentality.

19:03Alan Shearer:They didn't play well because of their mentality. He's gone, no, no. Their mentality was incredible. That's what got them over the line. So if... You know what journalists are like. They can stir things up. So they've not given him that bit of the information. Of course. There won't be a problem between. And nor should there be. No, of course not. I mean, that kind of sums it up. That's you looking for things that aren't really there. Correct. Right. I mean, it's a nonsense, effectively. It's an absolute nonsense. And if the headlines tomorrow are Bellingham disagrees with Tuchel, that's a bigger nonsense.

19:34Big fallout between the manager and the club. Because the lot of you should be united. But don't you think you should look at the whole game? So if you look at Croatia, they played well in the second half. Yeah. And then the next game was Ghana. They didn't play well in that game. The game after that, they made a few changes. It was Panama. Then it was DR Congo. They've not played well all tournament. But where I think England have done well, going to the Azteca, at Mexico, when everyone was talking about the altitude, they were talking about, you know, the heat, the record, the passion and desire that they showed, the courage to get through that, then to go into this game.