In short
Premier League opening weekend review—Arsenal’s dominant start, shock results for Spurs/Villa and Man United’s loss to promoted Hull, plus debate over Manchester City’s late comeback and squad changes. Also discusses PSR/Squad Cost rules, VAR usage, and Newcastle’s emotional Kevin Keegan tribute and encouraging performance vs Liverpool.
Guests (hosts)
Gary Lineker (presenter), Micah Richards (former England/Man City defender, pundit), Alan Shearer (former England/Newcastle striker, pundit).
Guest backgrounds
Richards and Shearer are ex-elite Premier League players; Lineker is a long-time football presenter/commentator.
Key claims
- Hull’s aggression/energy overwhelmed Man United; United lacked midfield protection and options up front.
- Arsenal looked “unstoppable” with high fullbacks and Havertz scoring; they’re the team to beat.
- City’s midfield reshuffle (Gvardiol/Gaye in midfield) is risky without Rodri’s control; Maresca’s job is questioned.
- PSR is anti-competitive: “financially viable” clubs like Villa/Newcastle are constrained while top clubs can spend and recover.
- VAR felt less intrusive over the weekend.
Notable examples
- Hull’s Olly McBurnie standout vs Maguire.
- Arsenal vs Coventry at the Emirates; Havertz finish.
- Brentford 3-0 Spurs; Brighton 4-0 Villa.
- Newcastle vs Liverpool with a Keegan send-off and Isak boos; Newcastle’s QR-code kit idea.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflecting on the Summer and Weddings
0:45 to 4:20
Hosts share personal updates about their summer and weddings.
“Before we dive all into that, lads, how have we been?”
Reviewing Hull's Performance Against Man United
4:20 to 10:25
Analysis of Hull City's surprising win over Manchester United.
“We've done that for the last three years since we've been doing this, working out what we've gone to.”
Assessing Manchester United's Midfield Issues
10:25 to 14:01
Discussion on Manchester United's midfield struggles and potential solutions.
“they just didn't have an option to bounce it, which they're going to have to look at that.”
Arsenal's Strong Start and Player Evaluations
14:01 to 28:00
The discussion focuses on Arsenal's impressive performance, key players, and potential transfers as they start the season.
“I would give Man City an excuse in terms of a lot of their players are coming back a little bit later than Arsenal's.”
Discussion on Premier League Teams' Performance
28:50 to 31:08
Hosts analyze the poor performances of Brentford, Spurs, and Villa in their opening games.
“Welcome back to The Rest is Football with Alan Shearer, Micah Richards and me, Gary Lineker.”
Exploring Financial Fair Play and Competition
31:08 to 35:08
A deep dive into the implications of financial rules on club competition, focusing on Newcastle and Aston Villa.
“Now, I don't love and never have loved clubs owned by states, for example.”
VAR's Impact on Match Outcomes
35:08 to 36:40
Discussion on VAR's recent performance and its influence on the matches over the weekend.
“All the other teams now, as soon as you have one amazing season, then you can challenge for a year or two and then you've got it offload.”
Brentford's Strategy and Recent Performance
36:40 to 40:34
Hosts evaluate Brentford's effective management and recent impressive performance against Tottenham.
“But, you know, back to Aston Villa, I mean, Brighton were brilliant, the press and everything else, the bits that I saw.”
Spurs' Player Dynamics and Season Outlook
40:34 to 42:01
The team discusses Spurs' player dynamics and the need for a new number nine.
“It was like men against boys, Brentford against Spurs at the weekend.”
Assessing Team Additions and Needs
42:01 to 42:51
Discussion about team player dynamics and the need for additional forwards.
“You would say Richarlison's a forward, but not quite a number nine.”
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Emotional Send-Off for Kevin Keegan
42:52 to 45:36
Reflection on Kevin Keegan's legacy and emotional moments during the tribute at St. James' Park.
“James' part with that amazing, amazing display by the fans and the football club towards, obviously, Kevin Keegan.”
Game Highlights and Player Reactions
45:37 to 48:20
Detailed commentary on the match between Newcastle and Liverpool, discussing key players and moments.
“When someone goes with the status of Kevin Keegan, I just wish he had given him one more day so he could have seen that.”
Analyzing Liverpool's Performance
48:21 to 53:04
Analysis of Liverpool's performance, including player statistics and areas for improvement.
“You know, as much as we're getting angry about Newcastle selling those players, those players that Newcastle sold didn't have the best season last season.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:11Alan Shearer:Hello and welcome to The Rest is Football with Micah Richards, Alan Shearer and me, Gary Lineker. Well, what an opening weekend of Premier League football. Here's what we've got to discuss on today's show. The Champions Arsenal ease past Coventry with an ominous performance at the Emirates. Spurs and Villa both suffered heavy defeats to Brentford and Brighton. We had a thrill at St. James' which we'll get to shortly, Alan. Manchester City left it late to bounce back and avoid back-to-back defeats for Enzo Maresca, while perhaps the most shocking result of the weekend saw Manchester United beaten by promoted hole.
0:47Alan Shearer:So plenty for us to get stuck into. Before we dive all into that, lads, how have we been? Good summer? Yeah, great summer.
0:57Gary Lineker:A wedding, Al, a wedding. A wedding, yeah. My bank balance is a little bit lighter, Gaz, as you can imagine.
1:03Alan Shearer:And you've got another one to go.
1:05Gary Lineker:And I've got another one in four and a half weeks, so it'll be even lighter then, yeah. It was a great wedding, so we had a great summer and it's great to be back talking football, isn't it? What was your speech like, Al? Very emotional. I lost it a couple of times, Micah. Yeah, it was so emotional. I read it to myself the evening before. But I was actually getting teary then, I think I've got no chance tomorrow when I read this out. And that was the case. Different when it's a little girl, you know, it's like, oh, it's so emotional. Can you tell me how this works? Obviously, I've never been married.
1:39I don't intend to get married. No one would have you anyway, Micah. So you have to do the speech because your daughter is always the daughter's father. Father of the bride, Micah.
1:52Alan Shearer:Father of the bride.
1:53Gary Lineker:Father of the bride, yeah. First up, yeah, I was first up, Micah. So I set the tone, yeah, it was brilliant. The weather was great. It was a beautiful place. And, yeah, it was an amazing day. How was it walking her down for the magic moment? And I went in to see her, first of all, and I saw her for the first time in her dress. It was like, oh, my God, what's up, my little girl? Oh, thank goodness me. So, yeah, and then walking down with her arm and I, oh, yeah, it was so emotional. But I loved it and everyone loved it. So we had a great weekend. So wait, wait, wait, wait. How does it work with the names then?
2:28Is a Shearer legendary name going to get passed on? Gone, yeah.
2:33Gary Lineker:Holly Marchand, yeah. She's ditched this year.
2:37Alan Shearer:She's ditched you. She's probably been embarrassed for years.
2:43Alan Shearer:What about you, Micah? Barbados, mate. Oh, of course. Tell us, come on.
2:48Gary Lineker:There must be some stories from Barbados. Well, not suitable for the podcast, I know. but in terms of the place it's just it's the best place on earth rum punch every day bear in mind i'd not drank all year so i had a first rum punch i was steaming after two of them
3:08Alan Shearer:when you say you're not drank all year i did witness one or two go down in in new york well yeah that's when it started well that's that's when it started but yeah yeah i mean Barbados is brilliant but did you I don't know if it was just me did you guys get one of these gifts from Netflix yes yes yes how cool are these by the way I've got mine here as well look look look the clapper board clapper board yeah because we're on Netflix baby what about yours guys tell us come on my house is being renovated so I'm turning you know where my upstairs where my kitchen was I'm now putting my kitchen downstairs and my living room upstairs I'm switching it around so I use the garden I've been it's been a long time coming.
3:52Alan Shearer:So they started about a month before I left. They've still got about, I would say three weeks to go. So I've been living in my bedroom, just waiting for it to happen. But I'm very excited. It's going to look great. I'll invite you around once it's ready guys. And I'll be cooking. So what are you talking? Bigger kitchen? Yeah, it's amazing. The kitchens are going to be amazing. Nah, treated myself. See, that's how things are as you get older in life. Kitchen update gives you a thrill. That's about as good as it gets now. It's about as good as it gets. we should talk some football we did a little show last night Harry and myself for Netflix which we're going to do weekly sometimes it'll be with you guys just discussing what perhaps the running order should be and firstly though what an opening weekend of the season amazing before we go on though can we have a little shout out to Harry he's a natural on the camera isn't he we've got to be worried now I'm telling you we've got to up our game this season mate go on Haz love it Haz So we always do that on a Sunday anyway.
4:50Alan Shearer:We've done that for the last three years since we've been doing this, working out what we've gone to. And we came up with whole Manchester United. Now, I think sometimes with these things, it's like doom and gloom about Manchester United. But I think we should start with a word on whole. What did they finish? Six in the championship last season. They got up via the playoffs. I mean, to face Manchester United at home, you would think that'd be too much for them. but I thought they were incredible. The energy and the aggressiveness.
5:20Gary Lineker:Outstanding. They were absolutely sensational. I think even just from the first minute, because we sat there doing it on Saturday, and just the way they went after Manchester United. You go to a promoted team, first day of the season, you go to their ground, you should know what to expect. They're going to come after you, the crowd's going crazy, they've been waiting 10 weeks for that moment, they're playing one of the biggest clubs in the world. and you should know as a player what's about to hit you, a Man United player. And it was as if they just, Man United, thought, we'll just turn up, we'll rock up and we'll beat them.
5:55Gary Lineker:And I just felt that Hull sensed that and they just went after them and Man United couldn't cope with their energy and their attitude and everything else. Yeah, it was as bad as Man United were, I thought Hull were absolutely brilliant. While we're on Hull, can we talk about Olly McBurney, my neighbour? You two are strikers. How good was he, by the way? He beat the two centre-halves up. They couldn't handle him. Harry Maguire and heaven, wasn't it?
6:20Alan Shearer:He even went on an amazing dribbling run, didn't he, at one point where he beat about three men. I thought, what's happened to Olly McBurney? So, yeah, I thought he was absolutely brilliant up top there. He really gave Manchester United a hard time. Tactically, though, switching to Manchester United, Mike, in midfield they look a little bit like the Manchester United at the start of last season, I felt. But light in midfield, not much energy in there. I mean, if you bring in Uri Tielemans, he's never been particularly quick or aggressive, but he's a lovely footballer. Santos is obviously young and experienced and you've got Bruno.
6:59Alan Shearer:So, you know, automatically you look straight away. And I mean, they brought him Belieber now. So, which I think they need someone like that, Micah. Yeah, I think he's energy. He didn't have the greatest season last season. He had injuries, but the season before, Baliba was great. I think with Man United and over the last two years, I have seen progression, certainly under the Carrick. But I think he's still finding out what they want to be. So I remember me and Al last season debating if Man United improved, et cetera, et cetera. And I thought they had improved. And I feel as though what worked for them was counterattacked, being nice and narrow, a little bit, whether it go to mid block or that low block, and then they used to counterattack very quick.
7:51And that's what suited them. I think when you start buying players and ballplayers, Santos is good on the ball, Tielemans is good on the ball. We know what Bruno Fernandes can do. I feel as though they changed what made them good towards the end of last season. And that was be very narrow and then be expansive when they want to go forward. There were too many holes, too many gaps. And Tielemans is a fantastic footballer on the ball, but he does give you room in behind him if you can exploit that. And I feel as though because it was a new midfield, they were sort of figuring out each other's game.
8:28And just by the time they sort of got it right, there was a spell maybe in the end of the first half and then in the second half, they sort of dominated. But expect that because Hull was always going to drop a little bit deeper. but they were still finding out what works for them. I don't think it's time to panic. I think Belieber sorts that out. But I think the bigger question is, how are they going to fit Mainu into this squad? So you've got Santos, who wants to play a little bit deeper, but I would say he's more at eight. You've got Tielemans. You've got Mainu, who's a six and an eight, but there's not someone who just wants to sit there.
9:04Belieber's got good energy, but he's not the most disciplined. So I think Carrick's got to sort that out as soon as possible. But the first game of the season, especially how last season ended, you want to go and win that game. Yes, it was always going to be tough because of the promoted side, but you expected a little bit more from Man United.
9:22Gary Lineker:I wonder, you know, I wonder Hull went in with five at the back, wing backs. And I just wonder whether they saw Milan do that against them in the friendly. I just wonder whether teams would look at that and think how they struggled and if other teams felt as if they could go in playing the same system against Man United because they couldn't work it out. I mean, as players, you're looking for someone to take responsibility and shove and shift people around. And there was none of that from Man United. And I just wonder whether teams would think of going in with three or five at the back against them because they really, really struggled.
9:59It's not just the midfield where I thought they struggled. I thought up front, playing Cunha sort of, he was sort of like a false nine and going wherever he wanted. So every time the ball went up there and he was looking for someone to bounce the ball, he wasn't there. And yes, he's played up front, he's played on the left, but when he was his best at wall, he sort of had a free roll to do what he wanted to do. And every time United went on that attack, they just didn't have an option to bounce it, which they're going to have to look at that. Maybe Sesco needs to start going forward.
10:32Alan Shearer:Yeah, I thought that in the first half as well. And in fact, quite a few players had really poor games as well, didn't they? Dorgu and Dumbuma weren't very good and Kunju couldn't get in the game. And obviously they couldn't cope with that three at the back. Looking at Hull there, would you say, having seen last season, of course, two of the promoted sides stay up, does that give sides like that? I think it's a massive boost, isn't it? But you've got to be careful what we say here, because we've been on a few fans' accounts, mate, at the end of the season and saying, oh, look at these three twerps.
11:06You know what I mean? Don't know what I'm talking about. How are we supposed to predict what's going to happen after 38 games? All we can look at is what we see with our eyes. We get all the data. We get all the stats. And we come to a conclusion. And we'll be wrong. And we'll be wrong. And sometimes we get it wrong. So Brentford, if you could please stop posting us. You know, I've got it wrong a couple of times. That's what we do. We have to make an opinion. We get our opinions wrong sometimes. but with Hull
11:33Gary Lineker:have you changed your opinion about after the weekend what you've seen are you going to have a knee jerk reaction you're going to say yeah
11:41Alan Shearer:well let me just say chaps our Friday episode this week will be our dreaded predictions episode for the season so we're holding ourselves back for a week before we sit here and completely humiliate ourselves so because there's always one or two you get wrong and that's football because football is largely fairly unpredictable. We wouldn't want it any other way. It's just not an easy thing to judge. But at least the fact that last season two of the promoted clubs stayed up, I think that does give the sides, like Hull, a little bit of kind of a glimmer of hope, I would say.
12:18Gary Lineker:Well, I think it was Ipswich. I think it was 11 games in until they won their first game the last time they were in the Premier League a couple of years ago. So for them to win their very first game at home, You can imagine the belief it gives Ipswich and Hull and all their fans and whatever. Because the vast majority of people would have had those three to go down. Don't you think? I've got a little theory. You know promoted clubs? Yeah. I think they should all start their games at home. Because commentary had to go away. To Arsenal. To Arsenal. It's like, if you're a player coming up from the championship, and you've got to go to the champions straight away.
12:56Alan Shearer:The only thing I would say on that though, Micah, following a World Cup you would think that if you've got to go there which you have to do at some point in the season going there on the first day probably is an advantage because you've got World Cup players not quite fit it didn't work obviously for Coventry and I thought Arsenal it takes us onto that game nicely actually because I mean I've got a feeling we might all tip Arsenal to win the league on Friday I'm not going to ask your opinions now because we'll save it for that one but But when you look at it, some of the additions they've made as well.
13:31Alan Shearer:We were talking last night, Harry and myself, Mike, and I wanted to get your view on this, that he did look like he'd taken the shackles off. The two fullbacks played really high, and I thought that was a massive advantage for Saka. Overall, it was kind of the performance that you go, hmm, they're going to take some beating this season. It was a community shield, wasn't it, where I was thinking, ooh. Yeah. You know when you're predicting at the start of the season, and especially when we played. Community Shield is more, it's just like a pre-season game, but you're sort of feeling people out and they blew Man City away.
14:05I would give Man City an excuse in terms of a lot of their players are coming back a little bit later than Arsenal's. Of course you would. That would give them a,
14:13Gary Lineker:what are you giving them a fucking excuse for? Why would you do that? I'm just talking facts. All right, okay. You know what I mean? I'm just talking facts. All right. You're bold. I am there. You know? They're not going to stop your salary. Don't worry. I'll give Man City a little excuse. And I thought, ooh, is it just a fitness issue? And then against Coventry, you're exactly right, Gaz. They played. Ben White, though. We have to give Ben White a little bit of credit. When Timber come into the side, he was thinking there was no way back. Yes, he got injured, but he was brilliant. Calafiore is excellent, as always.
14:50And that is the arsenal. I think a lot of people expected to see and they can play with that swagger now because of one that the Premier League it feels like all the pressure's off now they're being judged as champions and a lot of people will say oh well the hardest thing is to retain it but the football that they're playing Odegaard at the moment after the World Cup he was outstanding in the World Cup and now he took that in that first game of the season yeah in terms of predictions I don't want to give my predictions now but they are cooking
15:21Gary Lineker:The pressure and the stress that they were under last year for them to get over the line and the relief of that and what they'll take from that going into this season now. Yeah, they're the team to beat. There's no doubt. Just a word on there. I thought Zolis played really well coming into a new team, a new league. He's always going to be difficult. But Myles Lewis Skelly, man. He was rumoured to be leaving. Not a chance at Arsenal. even me considering that. He could play left-back, he could play midfield, he could play attacking midfield. He's got everything that lad. He's amazing. What about the brilliant finish Havertz as well, man?
16:01Gary Lineker:Where he just slotted it in, guided it in. He made it look so easy. I mean, that was a tough finish.
16:06Alan Shearer:If Havertz stays fit, you know, and obviously we've constantly gone on about the number nine situation for Arsenal. I think if Havertz stays fit, which he's not necessarily done in the last season or two, I think that could... I mean, he's a different kind of nine. He's not incredibly quick or anything. But he's got a feel for getting in the right place in the box. He's technically very gifted. With a real run in that position, I think that could be possibly Arsenal's answer and the fact they might not need to go into the transfer market again.
16:44Gary Lineker:I think in the bigger games, there's no doubt, I think Arteta prefers him. But I think you saw what Jochores brought to that team last season in terms of the goals that he scored, the games that he played in. So, as in every position, they've got options. There's no doubt about it. They're a brilliant team. I would actually go for a striker if I was for Arsenal. If they did, then that's it done, by the way. I mean, you can imagine. Because the situation that's happening with Alvarez, Atletico Madrid, I don't know if you've seen last night, he was booed. There's rumours that he wasn't acting in the right manner and wanted to go to Barcelona.
17:24Are Atletico Madrid going to sell him to Barcelona? It might be one for Arsenal to just sneak in there and offer a bid. And if he's not going to be happy, he come off the bench and he got jeered by the fans. So I know it can turn around in football. But if they had someone like Alvarez, and the only reason I say that, Gaz, is because I think Haberts can play off the right too. and sometimes with Saka needed rest. I know they've got Warneri and I know they've got Dowman as well, but I see them as more number 10s. So Havertz has played off that right and done it really well before. So if I was Arsenal now, they've got a chance to really push on and if they could get someone like Alvarez, it would take them to the next level.
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18:07Gary Lineker:You just wonder that though, don't you? I think you make a good point is that if because of the pushing that Barcelona have done and the reluctance from Atletico to say no. If we have to sell, we're not selling to you. So there just may be an opportunity, a small opportunity, a small window there for Arsenal to nab him, you would think, because I guess there's so much unrest with Barcelona because of what they've tried to do during the summer.
18:37Alan Shearer:It does look like he's going to go somewhere, though, particularly given the way he walked off at the end of the game for Atletico. and there'll be plenty of clubs would like Alvarez because he's, as we know from when he's Man City days as well, he was terrific. Next game for Arsenal is Villa, who obviously got thumped and they're in turmoil, which we'll come to in just a second. And then if you've got City, Chelsea, Liverpool and to a certain degree, Manchester United, all really in transition, particularly with managers. Arsenal are in a great place, Al. Great players.
19:12Gary Lineker:Yeah, they've built themselves up into a hugely positive situation. As you say, when everyone else is changing and pretty much starting to go again, Arsenal are there. They're ready. It's taken them a while to get there and they've built that themselves. So you've got to give them great credit for sticking with Arteta as they did. It all worked for them last season. And clearly everyone, all their challenges are looking at them knowing that they're the favourites. They're in the best position to go and do it again and even challenge in Europe again. So they've got an unbelievable opportunity for the next one, two, three, four years to go boof, to really stamp their authority.
19:57Alan Shearer:I always find it interesting. You said it earlier, Micah, the hardest thing is to retain it rather than win the first one. No, the hardest thing is to win the first one. Well, that's what I thought. And it wasn't, oh, could he retain it the hardest thing? Do you know what? It's one of those stupid expressions in football. I mean, obviously it's difficult to retain it, but that winning it after so long is definitely the more difficult of the two. It's like that other one when they say, two nil is the worst lead to have. Two goal lead is the worst. No, it's not. Because if you one nil up, they only need one to equal.
20:30It's like, who makes this shit up? Well, can you get the historians on the other pod to actually see if there's something in terms of the psychology of it?
20:39Alan Shearer:There's a psychology if you concede when you're 2-0 up that you don't want to concede again, but it's not as bad as the psychology of only being one up.
20:45Gary Lineker:It was the hardest thing for us at Blackburn to go and return it. We finished sixth, I think.
20:53Alan Shearer:Manchester City, talking about teams that win titles, they've won a lot. obviously a big change at the top and lots of changes in terms of where players are playing Michael what did you make of all that he did well he did well for a center midfield I'm talking about Gay here I'm just talking about Gay so for those who don't know Gay played center midfield and he did well for a defender playing in midfield but he didn't do well for a midfielder's standards that you set in a game. So if Gahey, you would think, if he's going to play midfield, you think he would just sit in front of, you know, Foden, or when Shirky came on, or Anderson.
21:36But when Anderson was on the ball, Gahey was getting into areas like a number 10. So every time Man City lost the ball, they had no one there to protect the back line. I was losing my mind. I was watching the game thinking, Gahey, surely that's not the tactic in this game. And I know Man City always have a lot of the ball. We know that. And I thought, oh, it's very clever here for Mureska. Is he using Gaye as a decoy to make runs so people have to follow him, would leave space for Anderson or Foden to get on the ball in the middle of the pitch? But that wasn't the case. He was the one getting forward.
22:13And in the second half, I will say he grew into the game. He did a few overlaps. And it was a good performance because then he scored from a set piece. but in terms of Man City going forward, you've gone from Rodri and Bernardo Silva to then see Gaye in midfield, who he is capable. He's got great feet, right foot, left foot. He's composed on the ball. But in terms of them moving forward, I don't want to see Gaye in midfield. He's a top-class centre-half. Put him at the back.
22:43Gary Lineker:Well, they're just about to sign Bawadi, aren't they? So I guess he'll be in that position, him and Anderson.
22:50Alan Shearer:Yeah, Boadis, that's a big sign. It's a lot of money for a young player north of 100 million, but he did look really, did look like a terrific, very exciting prospect.
23:04Gary Lineker:I did that first game in the World Cup and he was outstanding. He stood out against whoever he was in the midfield against, the way he was going to get the ball and collect the ball and had the belief in the confidence already. And there was no doubt. I think I even said it to you in commentary, it's just a matter of time before a big boy comes up and snaps him up. And they have done so. I think he'll do really well. I wonder in what direction Man City want to go. In what sense, Mike?
23:32Alan Shearer:What football sense or overall as a club? Just in the overall picture in terms of, you've gone from really experienced players and I know players need to move on. You know, I was sad to see Kevin De Bruyne go. I feel as though he could have done one more year. And then Bernardo Silva, he left when he was, what, turning 31. And he still had, you know, so much to give for Manchester City. And then Rodri goes. They're players that wanted to leave though, Mike. Not necessarily. Yeah, but yes. And Man City are very good in that way. If you don't want to stay, you know, the opener to leave, they will never stop a player from.
24:12But I just feel as though Rodri is so pivotal in what Man City want to do and how they want to play. I think going into the first game without a replacement per se, it was a little bit of a risk. Because you know how tight the Premier League's become now. You could lose three or four games and you're out of the title race, you know, because everyone's so competitive. And to go with the 18-year-old Boadi in midfield, yes, he's got so much ability, but it is a risk for him to come into Man City to then expect them to go win the league. With another midfielder who's come from Nottingham Forest, where obviously it's different.
24:57We're a team who's fighting for Conference League and a team that's going for the Premier League. He's got the ability. I'm Anderson's biggest fan. But the difference with those players, Rodri had a calmness and he had so much discipline. And we talked through the World Cup with Anderson. He's got everything. He can hold if he wants. He can attack. But he sort of always wants to jump, then leaves gaps. And what's made Man City so brilliant is they're always, or Rodri's always in the right position. And they've always got an option. So I just feel like it's a different looking Man City. If you look at Man City's squad, 18 months ago, we say Man City's got the best, not even squad, our best 11.
25:42But now if you're looking on paper, maybe they might just have the best 11, but Arsenal would be competing with that now. And for them to go from, yeah, Man City will win the league to, ooh, now they're bringing in 18 year olds and a new midfield. And yes, you have to move on. But I feel like there's been too much change too soon. And that could effectively cost them for the league this season.
26:10Alan Shearer:Well, Anderson came off with a niggle as well. I do like Bawadi, but I understand what you're saying. Because he does look like he's got that sort of calmness in there as well. But very, very inexperienced at this level. And to be honest, at the beginning of this season, I just think whoever was in charge of Manchester City, it's going to be so hard. You know, like following Wenger at Arsenal, like following Ferguson after all those years at Manchester United. It's like, it's DNA's all over that club, Pep Guardiola. And then someone comes in. Do you know what? It was so important they turned that around against Bournemouth.
26:47Alan Shearer:I thought Bournemouth did really well and absolutely gutted probably to not at least get a point. But that turnaround, I think, was so big for Maresco. Otherwise, they go into the next game having lost the community shield. I know it's not the biggest game in the world, but then to lose an opening game at home and automatically, not just the fans, but the players come in and they're going, it's a bit different. It's not Pep Guard. Even if it's subconscious, that sort of stuff would have inevitably happened after Wenger, would inevitably have happened after Fergie. So I think, I mean, I think it's the job, the job to have at Manchester City is probably the job after the one after Pep Guardiola.
27:30Alan Shearer:But I mean, Maresco is obviously a talented coach, but it will be really fascinating to see if he can keep it. We saw obviously after Klopp, they went on to win the league and then it gradually dipped away. So let's see how he goes. Wish him well with it, but big boots to fill. Let's take a little breather and discuss some of the other big games that we've had over the opening weekend of the season, including, of course, Alan, that heartbreaking, but at the same time, encouraging performance from Newcastle.
28:10Alan Shearer:OK, so we didn't win the World Cup but that doesn't mean we can't have a party Me, Alan and Micah are back from New York and looking forward to the start of a new domestic season but we wanted to have a night out with as many of you as possible to talk football and have a bit of fun So if you fancy coming to see The Rest is Football live We're doing the show at London's Royal Festival Hall on Friday, September the 4th. Wear your new shirts and come with your new season optimism. Tickets available at therestisfootball.com.
28:50Alan Shearer:Welcome back to The Rest is Football with Alan Shearer, Micah Richards and me, Gary Lineker. I want to put the next two games together. So Brentford beating Spurs by three goals to nil and Villa losing at Brighton by four goals to nil. And I look at Villa and they've sold a lot of players and it's similar circumstances perhaps to Newcastle. We can also... When should we have the rant? I think you can go with your rant now, Alan, but I'm just going to say Spurs bought in a few players and obviously they didn't all play, but they were really poor. So terrible starts for Villa and Spurs. But for Villa, you've got to feel some kind of sympathy.
29:35Alan Shearer:I think the reaction by Unai Emery when he just went, silence, I think said a lot. Sometimes silence does say a lot. And the PSR rules, are we now just protecting the elite because Man City continue to spend, I know they sell players. Chelsea continue to spend. I know they sell players. Liverpool continue to spend. But clubs like Newcastle that get new money and let's say Aston Villa have been successful, relatively speaking. Is it fair, Alan? No, it's not. Before you go, Al, though, just for context, who decides the PSR rules? Is that all the clubs or not? But how did they come into play? Because that's the only thing I actually don't understand.
30:27Alan Shearer:I imagine it's with the Premier League, it has to be voted for by 14 clubs. And that would have been the case back in the day. So really, before you go on your rant, and I'm totally with you, Baisa, it's decided by 14 clubs. So the clubs did want it to start with. It's like essentially like VAR. Oh, we need to sort this out. We need to sort it out. We've got it and we don't like it. I think it was brought in for the right reasons. because obviously we've seen clubs overspend, get themselves in massive trouble, end up, you know, in danger of hitting the wall. So I think they brought it in for the right reasons, but I think now it's not necessarily used for the right.
31:07Alan Shearer:If you've got a club that is actually completely financially viable, yet they've got massive restraints. Now, I don't love and never have loved clubs owned by states, for example. but that train left the station a long time ago.
31:24Gary Lineker:It's anti-competitive. It has to be. I mean, come on, look at the two clubs that have threatened to challenge over the last four or five years, both Newcastle and Aston Villa. Look at what's happened to them. Not only this season, last season when Newcastle had to sell, I don't know, Elliot Anderson, for example. And you can go so far, You can maybe have a sustained challenge for three or four years as what happened, threatened to break into the top six, if you like, and upset the top six. But then after the three or four years, you then have to comply with it. I mean, how is it fair that Aston Villa, look at this summer, just so I'm not using Newcastle as an example, or I easily could.
32:12Gary Lineker:Look what they're selling. I mean, they've sold Concer, they've sold Tielemans, sold Morgan Rodgers. I mean, it's like... Looks like Ollie Watkins is maybe going to Saudi. It's like, come on, they're their best players and have been for a number of years. And yet Newcastle, you've got to sell Bruno Gimera. You're selling them to the top clubs. I mean, you bring these clubs in and you take a gamble on paying a fee for them. Okay, you're getting very, very good fees back. But they're just coming in and taking all your best players and say you've had a little look into the big house and then all of a sudden get back to where you belong, into your position.
32:48Gary Lineker:There's no way we're allowing you to come in and challenge us. And yeah, you're right. I do agree that the rules were brought in for the right reasons. But Man City wouldn't be at the table given the current circumstances. Chelsea wouldn't be at the table given the current circumstances or current laws, would they? These clubs have benefited from where Villa want to go and where Newcastle want to go. The rules were brought in to stop clubs going bankrupt. I get that and understand that. But when you've got clubs who are financially viable and who can, I guess, put a levy that they'll say, if we decide to leave, then that lump sum is there for the football club in three or five years.
33:29Gary Lineker:And I just think, I don't like it at all. I do think it's anti-competitive. It's a pathetic rule, though, anyway. And that's why I asked at the start who agreed to going into it. Yes, you've explained the reasons why to protect clubs. You don't want to see clubs going bankrupt. But take Man United, for example. They generate the most revenue. So they can spend the most on players. So it's ridiculous anyway. I don't understand why people would sign up to that. These clubs can make as many mistakes as they want. I mean, look at the signings that Man United have made over the last five or six years.
34:07Gary Lineker:How many bad signings, the money they've chucked away. and they're hundreds of millions, maybe billions in debt. I know they're the biggest club in the world. I know, I understand all that. Look at Tottenham, look at the mistakes that they've made. And I know that they sell and they do whatever, but it's just not right that these clubs can make so many errors, yet Newcastle have to, their recruitment has to be amazing and Newcastle's has up until last summer. And that's where they've done really, really well in their recruitment. and Aston Villa have done exactly the same and got a brilliant coach.
34:42Gary Lineker:These clubs can't afford to make mistakes in the transfer market yet. The so-called big six can make as many mistakes as they want. They'll say, OK, fine, and we'll just go again. We'll just go and spend another£100 million and we'll buy one of your players.
34:57Alan Shearer:I totally agree with you, Alan. I think it's got to the stage now where clubs can't compete with the top six and that's not right. Well, it's a Super League in its own right, isn't it? It is exactly that in a sense. All the other teams now, as soon as you have one amazing season, then you can challenge for a year or two and then you've got it offload. It just doesn't really make too much sense in that aspect. And while we're on this particular subject, we should go on to another one that I don't, was there a VAR intervention at all over the weekend? I think obviously a couple of offsides, but we get that.
35:40Alan Shearer:That's automated. That's far.
35:41Gary Lineker:Refreshing, wasn't it?
35:42Alan Shearer:Oh, my word. They weren't getting involved. And I know they've come out and said that's what they're going to do. It won't last, I hasten to add, because after three or four weeks, people complain whether he should have had a penalty. And then that bar is really, really high at the moment. Just fucking keep it there, right? Because I know for a fact within a month that will change because this has been stated at the start of every season.
36:09Gary Lineker:As much as I wanted it to come in and change the decision at Newcastle yesterday with that penalty, it wasn't enough to overturn it. It was soft, but the ref gave it. So I accept that. And I just hope that, as you say, I really hope it continues because it was refreshing over the weekend from Friday till Sunday night to see the referees refereeing the game and no huge controversies. So, yeah, let's hope it stays that way.
36:36Alan Shearer:It's funny, a little bit of proof that football's probably better without VAR.
36:40Gary Lineker:But, you know, back to Aston Villa, I mean, Brighton were brilliant, the press and everything else, the bits that I saw. I mean, the Ollie Watkins situation, I don't know whether you guys will tell me something different, but it sounds as if he didn't want to play, if you believe Unai Emery, because he wanted that. He wants that move to Saudi Arabia. On top of all the players that they've had to sell, I mean, unbelievable. No one would have predicted what would have happened yesterday there at Brighton, would they?
37:12Alan Shearer:You could see that. You could see that coming. Interesting, though, we talk about while we're on the PSR thing, the two results that Brentford beat in Spurs and Brighton beat in Villa. They are two examples of, you know, the way they run it with the data systems and all that stuff. They do seem to be very, very well-run football clubs in that sense and get the best out of what they can with their particular budget, even though they're probably restricted. But obviously with clubs like Brighton and Brentford, you can never see them actually realistically being giants of the game. I would like to know how the clubs feel about that.
37:54So if you didn't have PSR and you didn't have that protection in place, Would the bigger clubs just spend even more?
38:00Gary Lineker:It's SCR now, isn't it? Squad cost ratio, I think that's what it's saying. But would they spend even more, the bigger clubs, Al? You know, because we're saying that they don't want to let... Because I agree with what you're saying, but I think would Brentford and Brighton still do it the same way, probably? Yeah, I'm sure they would, yeah, because that model works for them as a football club and it's worked really, really well.
38:26Alan Shearer:Economically, it works. because obviously they're relatively small in terms of the capacities of the ground and they have to be sensible and manage their finances well.
38:35Gary Lineker:Look at the money that Brighton have brought in in terms of for their recruitment and how they've done it and how they do it. And Brentford, I mean, look at, I know it's very early, I know it's only his first game, but the signing of Sangari, wasn't it, Mamadou Sangari, 39 million quid they've got him for. They've nicked him. I mean, it's like brilliant for Brentford and he was absolutely superb. And he was last season, wasn't he, as well. But for them to sign him and the way he destroyed the Spurs midfield at the weekend was so impressive. So they have to get it right. But their model has worked for them superbly well.
39:13But why are the bigger clubs not using that model as well then? Surely they must have... Because you think Man City and United and Chelsea, Liverpool, they must have some sort of model like that as well though, right?
39:27Gary Lineker:Of course they do. They've all got these stats and everything else that they go with it. They'll have all that, won't they? There's a unique system. There's as unique, isn't it? Brighton and Brentford. I think Hearts as well now, because Brighton owner bought Hearts as well, didn't they?
39:41Alan Shearer:I think clubs like that can do that. But if you're doing that at Manchester United, fans are going to go. you need big names it's like Real Madrid Barcelona Manchester United Arsenal all these the fans want big names players that they they recognise and know but I don't see why it couldn't work with with the big I'm sure they do a lot of that now I'm sure all the clubs do by the way how good were
40:07Gary Lineker:Brentford against Tottenham
40:08Alan Shearer:so good weren't they
40:11Gary Lineker:blitzed them they did the apps the embarrassed Spurs actually they just hit them as if to say we'll just come on after you, their energy. Not only was it their pressing and everything else, the way they played, they just got the balance and the mix right, played football and very good football at the time. They went direct when they had to go direct. They got their pressing right. They looked fit. They looked strong. It was like men against boys, Brentford against Spurs at the weekend.
40:39Alan Shearer:Keith Andrews, I mean, he came in, didn't he, following Thomas Frank at the start of last season. And I think, you know, most pundits had possibly Brentford to struggle or go down. And as we all know, all the Brentford fans have had their say, I'm quite right too. It was Sunderland as well. Sunderland as well. Last season. Well, I think Alan's on it every day. Anyway.
41:02Gary Lineker:What about Spurs though, lads? Oh, don't, don't. I mean, they spent an absolute fortune, haven't they? I know they've sold as well, but they've paid a lot of money for players and they're about to get Savino as well for a lot of money. Appearing a lot of money out. Yeah, but I think that was just one of them games where a lot of new players they've not gelled yet. You can't tell me Tonali's not going to be a good signing. You can't tell me Sanessi's not going to be good. Van Hecker, yeah, didn't have the greatest game but these players are good players. I think they need something more. Need a forward.
41:39Gary Lineker:They definitely need a top centre forward. They've got Richarlison.
41:42Alan Shearer:well they've got Savino Marmouche Marmouche looks like going as well so and I know he didn't get too much of a looking at Manchester City but did show up on occasions and it's difficult for him there because obviously they have Haaland and no one's ever getting ahead of Haaland unless he's injured so I think they've got good additions coming in and we expect to see a lot better because I think De Zerbe is a really good coach but it was a shocking start to the season Don't you think all their players are the same though? So you would say Tell's like a forward. You would say Richarlison's a forward, but not quite a number nine.
42:22Then Savino's obviously a winger. Mamouche is a forward, but not really a number nine. They've only really got Solanke. Don't you think all the players are very similar in the spaces they want to operate? I feel like they need a proper... Solanke, yes, he's been injured. I think he needs some help up there. I feel like they need another proper number nine.
42:44Gary Lineker:Good luck. There's not many of them around. How many clubs are we going to say that about having a proper number nine?
42:50Alan Shearer:We're a dying breed, Al. We're a dying breed. Right, here we go out. What was it like at St. James' yesterday? Actually, let's start on St. James' part with that amazing, amazing display by the fans and the football club towards, obviously, Kevin Keegan. And that Kevin, we lost, didn't we, after the World Cup. So we haven't had the chance to talk about that. You know, one of the true greats of football in this country, a wonderful human being. I met him a few times. I know you were very close to him, and obviously you played for him. I mean, he was a very, very special man, great energy, incredibly likable, and a wonderful talent.
43:33Alan Shearer:And he got a send-off yesterday. and it was so lovely that it was Newcastle against Liverpool, wasn't it? It's amazing. As well and both sets of fans joined in. It was really quite emotional.
43:43Gary Lineker:Yeah, it was so sad because after the World Cup final and then waking up on the Monday morning to that news was like, wow, God, goodness me. I think it hit everyone so hard. But I thought yesterday, I mean, Liverpool fans and the Newcastle fans came together, gave him a great send-off. I mean, the atmosphere was, it was so emotional. Just listening to the fans singing and what war flags did for around the ground and how they set it up was amazing. And Newcastle and Liverpool did really, really well in terms of that. Everyone came together and it was beforehand. It's so weird how it worked out, isn't it?
44:26Gary Lineker:Newcastle v Liverpool, first game of the season. I know. And it was a brilliant game. I mean, it was probably the result that I guess he might have wanted, or he probably would have edged Newcastle. But it was a great game of football. What was he like to play for? He was brilliant. He was just one of these. Well, I played for him for Newcastle only for six months, obviously signed for him. And then I played with him when he was the England manager. And he was just infectious. He was just one of these guys that gave you so much energy. and he just wanted you to go out and play. He wanted you to go and entertain and that's what he wanted.
45:06Gary Lineker:He would much prefer to try and win a game 4-3 or 3-2 than sit and have a point or take a point. Yeah, that was his attitude. He wore his heart on his sleeve. He was down to earth. He was as honest as they come and he was just so infectious. His personality, his enthusiasm for life and for football was second to none. So it was so sad, but it was the send-off that both clubs gave him yesterday. It was brilliant.
45:36Alan Shearer:Do you know what I wish on these things? I know it can't happen. When someone goes with the status of Kevin Keegan, I just wish he had given him one more day so he could have seen that.
45:50Gary Lineker:I think in Newcastle's defence, Gary, I think they've tried to do that for a while, but whether it was Kevin not wanting to come back for whatever reason, I'm not quite sure. I think he was due to come very early in this season. I know that. But they have tried to give him something beforehand. And for whatever reason, he couldn't. He didn't, whether he didn't want to come or he couldn't make it or what. I know there was a bit of animosity with the previous owner. But they did try and do something for him beforehand.
46:21Alan Shearer:I didn't mean it as a criticism of Newcastle. I just meant if life just gave you one more day, for him to have witnessed the love and affection from everyone it would have been
46:34Gary Lineker:he would have loved the match yesterday he would have I mean Micah you were there I saw you I was trying to text and you were just ignoring me but he was he would have loved the match because it was a great game great atmosphere wasn't it Micah oh it was amazing and you know who I met one of your mates Asplitter oh yeah crazy I had a drink with him at half time He's a cool guy, isn't he? And his little hat on and his little glasses. But yeah, the atmosphere was brilliant. You know, when Isak touched the ball, I don't think I've heard boos that loud in my whole life. And I'm not exaggerating. I've been to the part of France where that was tasty.
47:18I've been to Madrid. The Manchester derbies, always tasty. but I've never heard boos like that in my life you'd have heard even bigger ones if he'd have had the balls to take the penalty
47:32Gary Lineker:I was thinking I was thinking come on go and take the penalty what have you got go and grab the ball and take the penalty Isak
47:41Alan Shearer:I think that was the right decision from Liverpool not to give it in because that pressure would have been enormous I was thinking surely not surely not I wanted him to go
47:52Gary Lineker:and take it I was thinking come on, you've been absolutely bad. Let's see what you've got. Go and grab the ball and take the penalty.
47:59Alan Shearer:I bet as soon as you sitting in the stand-down and saw Sibodzla taking it, you thought, oh no, he's going to score. I know, yeah. What a penalty it was, by the way.
48:05Gary Lineker:He nearly got to it as well. I mean, crikey. Top being, there was no way the keeper was stopped. I was actually, I'll take that every single week from Newcastle. I'll take the effort, I'll take the commitment, the passion, the honesty. Because let's not forget, by the way, You know, as much as we're getting angry about Newcastle selling those players, those players that Newcastle sold didn't have the best season last season. Newcastle finished 12th. So Gordon didn't have a good season. Tonali didn't have a good season. Bruno Gameraj, yes, he was the captain. Wasn't brilliant last season. So all those players that we've sold and got brilliant money for, there had to be a reset at Newcastle.
48:46Gary Lineker:There had to be. And I think at times, as much as positive as it was yesterday, I still think we're going to have to have patience this season with Newcastle.
48:56Alan Shearer:When have you ever had patience? Well, I know that's the thing.
48:58Gary Lineker:But I'll take that. What they gave us yesterday. I'll take that every week. I'll take that. What they gave us yesterday, Alan. I'll take that.
49:04Alan Shearer:I love what Newcastle did yesterday. This is obviously taking the game, the modern game, and taking it even further forward. They wore a kit yesterday that was a QR code, right? So, no, I've talked to the people at Newcastle, And they said, what they're going to do is, once they settle into this new kit, is in September onwards, people can go onto the QR code and decide who they should substitute.
49:33Alan Shearer:Come on. But an encouraging start, Alan. And a line on Liverpool, Micah? Yeah, just quickly on Newcastle, the manager, I think it's how you put it, Gessler?
49:45Gary Lineker:Gessler. Gessler. I've heard Gessler and I've heard Gessler. Yaisler, isn't it? Yaisler.
49:50Alan Shearer:We're probably all Mars off it. He's impressive, by the way. We interviewed him after the game and he's got a confidence, which is not arrogance, but he's got a belief and he's bought into what the project is at Newcastle. He didn't moan about the players that he'd lost. He sort of talked about the young players who he was stirring, Miley, in midfield. A lot of managers would have come out afterwards and said, oh, you know, well, with what we had and this is all we could do. He didn't. He was just positive by the way. I thought Dedic, the right back, was good who come in. How good's Miley? Miley was really good.
50:32Wisser.
50:33Alan Shearer:Lovely footballer. I thought Wisser going from the number 10 and then to the number nine in the game, all the sort of worries from last season now seem to have, oh, seem to be behind him. Obviously he played well at the World Cup. you had Alanga who scored the goal God he's quick he's right he's absolutely rapid so there was loads of positives for Newcastle but there was he was realistic in his approach and what he was saying which was very refreshing a line on on Liverpool not very good in terms of the stats they're actually very good but I don't buy into them stats I think their XG was something like 2.7 something.
51:18And I think they had like 60 % possession in the game. But they don't have the balance right in midfield yet to be a title challenging team. I think they've got some very good players. Verts needs to do a little bit more. A little bit more. Yeah, well, he needs to do a lot more. It's first game of the season, you know? Let's judge him after 10 games. but I want to see more from Virts this season. So Bosla is a top player in terms of what Liverpool want. Graven Birch, he's also a very good player, but they're not filling in for each other. They're all going at the same time. So they need to sort that out.
51:59Maybe they need to look at another midfielder. Xhaka, the defender, I like him, but I didn't think he played too well. He looked like the first game in the Premier League, still young. I want a little bit more from Fring Pong. Obviously at Leverkusen, he was playing wing back. But when he used to go forward, it used to be devastating. Now when he goes forward, it looks like he's sort of second guessing himself a little bit.
52:23Alan Shearer:Is there anything in this that, I mean, when players come from the Bundesliga to the Premier League, there's so few of them actually excel. Yeah, but I thought because of his pace, he would fit right in the Premier League, you know? He's very fit and he's got that pace. So I thought it'd be perfect for him. but obviously I've talked about it before on the pod playing right back and playing wing back is different he's actually more suited to wing back definitely take people up and he can be a little higher up the pitch and get into the areas where he wants to be I don't know if he's trying to cover too much ground to get into the the positions he needs to to get that assist or get a goal but he can he can do a lot more Kerkhez is a shadow of a player that it was at Bournemouth I feel like all these players they've got good names on paper but you want you want a lot more from all of them yeah it'd be interesting to see if Iriola can bring out the best in all of them particularly Kirk as he knows him obviously very well from his Bournemouth days okay let's call it a day there we're off and running lads we're back it's very good to be back isn't it it's great to be back Michael if you would have
53:29Gary Lineker:answered your phone yesterday I wanted to take you out for dinner last night in Newcastle oh yeah that old chestnut man if you answer your phone answer your text message and stop being fucking rude Well, in a 60 ,000 stadium where there's no reception. Yeah, brilliant. You know you could have texted me two hours before, oh, do you fancy going for dinner after the game? Chappers replies to his text. I was texting him during and after the game, and he said, I'll count you. You should have told me. I would have given you the Wi-Fi code.
53:58Alan Shearer:Or the QR code. Or the QR code. Gents, thank you very much. We'll be back on Wednesday with a question and answer episode. but for now goodbye from me goodbye from me
54:10Gary Lineker:goodbye from me
54:11Alan Shearer:have a great week it's Netflix baby
From the publisher
Gary, Alan & Micah are back with a bang as we witnessed one of the most intriguing opening weekends we’ve seen in the Premier League.
Manchester United suffered a shock defeat to newly promoted Hull, Aston Villa and Spurs were both battered by Brighton and Brentford, Manchester City staged a dramatic late comeback against Bournemouth, and there was a thriller at St James’ Park. Meanwhile, the Champions Arsenal produced a dominant performance on Friday.
The boys also discussed the new SCR rules and whether they are catered towards the elite. Is the Premier League becoming less competitive as a result?
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