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19:53Gary Lineker:You know what you said about the recruitment, Micah? You also have to give the owner because he's gone and recruited him. Very much like they go and get their players. They went to get him. They obviously saw massive talent in him, the way he conducted himself and spoke. and that's why he's in the job and doing very, very well. And clearly, his players are buying into all his ideas because they're very good, Brighton. They'll cause some teams problems this year, I think, again. Where do we have Brighton? Can I change my list? We'll put them higher. A bit higher, you know, a bit higher.

20:34Alan Shearer:Yeah, we could definitely go higher with Brighton the way they've started the season. And do you know who they play on Saturday? Arsenal oh is it at Brighton or at Arsenal at Brighton oh that's a good game that is that's a biggie that's a big game good test that would be for Arsenal another little word on Pastel Gros again please yeah oh my is he 35 now what a lovely finish that was oh the composure there the little pretending to shoot little feint it wasn't a chop it was a feint wasn't it it was a little feint and then stroked to his left. Oh, he needs to come into my fantasy now. Oh yeah, he's coming into my fantasy football.

21:16He's running every game that I watch him. He's ridiculous. To think though, they got him back from Dortmund. And when he was at Dortmund, he did okay. He did all right. But he didn't have the same impact. Yes, he's a little bit older. But to have this in the Premier League, in the League Cup. Yeah, he's a very intelligent footballer he is. There you go. Little quiz question for you both. Go on. How many is a gross? Hold on a bit. Ein, zwei, drei, vier, fünf, sechs, sieben. No, no, that's not it. Oh, we're not, no. No, it's a gross.

21:51Alan Shearer:You know, like you've got a dozen. Oh, you've got like a gross. A gross. Do you know what a gross is? Is it, what is it? Is it four? It's 12 dozen, which is 144. 12 dozen? 12 dozen. A dozen dozen. 12 twelves. 12-12

22:10Gary Lineker:that's a gross fucking hell you're having a great time in Ibiza by the way ain't you

22:19Alan Shearer:you need to get out more often I'm out here in the sunshine Arsenal we mentioned Max Downman he was probably the star of the show with that gorgeous finish the first one in particular the second one wasn't bad either but to come in and perform like that at his age I think we are looking at a special talent there aren't we and it'd be interesting to see how quickly because if you are that good and if your teammates are comparing you with Lamin-Yumao we know how early he got in as a regular at Barcelona I just wonder how Arsenal will kind of ease him into the team he's obviously he'll play Carabao Cup games he'll play FA Cup games but I wonder if you're that good how long they can keep him outside

23:04Gary Lineker:he is that good there's incredible talent but you also have to think I think as Mike has said before when we were talking about the situation at Man United, he's a very, very good club with a manager who understands him. But he's at the best club in terms of ability-wise because they've won the league and he's still shining. He's still doing well, which tells you how special he is. Yeah, I would say it's going to be difficult for him because if you look at the positions where he wants to play number 10 or off the right coming in, he's got Saka and Odegaard. you know he's got captain and vice captain essentially so he's only really going to play when they're injured or the last 10 minutes or 20 minutes of the game

23:46Alan Shearer:but again Micah I will say if he's that good that special Laminu Mal good if you end up being better than Saka or better than Odegaard you play or is that is this an English thing that we don't really trust our young kids that much yes that's what we do we build He's not too much. He has got incredible talent. We know that. We've seen it with our own eyes. But how you nurture that talent is completely different, isn't it? Like, Laminia Mao was doing crazy stuff at 13, 14. So is Max Downman. But is he doing better stuff than Saka would do? Is he doing better stuff than Odegaard would do in terms of control?

24:30That's my point here.

24:31Alan Shearer:We don't know yet, but if he's that good, then he will be doing better stuff. Because you put Lamin, your man, I presume, ahead of Saka, wouldn't you? Oh, yes, I would, yeah. There you go. That's just the point I'm making, that if he's a genuine possible superstar, then he will find himself inside much earlier than I think we anticipate. And also, where's his best position? I mean, we've not seen him enough, really, in first couple. I'm poseless, yeah. But he'd play off the right, can't he? Or as a 10, he looks special. Could he play off the left as well? Probably play anywhere, but... You don't want to be moving him around too many different positions, I would say, as well.

25:12Alan Shearer:But I think he'll be in... This is just a little prediction. I think he'll be in as a regular before the end of the season. No. No, I disagree. Only because, not in terms of ability-wise, guys. I think on ability, really good point. They want to nurture him. Not just to nurture, the way Arteta wants his players to do the defensive side, and that requires discipline. So to stick a 16-year-old in to do that, I think it'd be very difficult. Okay, let's take a break there. We'll discuss some of the other Carabao Cup games when we come back. This episode is brought to you by Guinness. Now that the Premier League is back, we've had a few weeks to settle into those familiar match day rituals.

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28:25Alan Shearer:Welcome back to The Rest is Football with Alan Shearer, Michael Richards, and me, Gary Lineker. Two teams that were kind of having a nervy start to the season, met at Anfield. Liverpool came out on top. Spurs did actually finally get a goal. Conor Gallagher scored their first goal of the domestic season. So I think I want to talk about first was Saboisla's goal. I mean, there are not many players in world football strike it sweeter than him.

28:51Gary Lineker:Do you see the angle from behind the goal? Like the swazz and the bend on it. I mean, oh, what a volley. Brilliant. I was thinking about taking him at my fantasy because I needed more for him. I need him more for the ability that he has. And obviously he's been playing a little bit deeper. So he's not been really getting into the box like I wanted. But after he did that strike, he's not going nowhere. He's staying in.

29:17Alan Shearer:I said at the weekend, didn't I? I thought he could probably play as the 10 there. He definitely can play the 10. And it's just what you do then with Verts, you know. Because Verts is going to play. Verts is going to play for now. No matter what we all say, he's going to play. And I just feel as though, because someone is so versatile, can play centre and can play right back, he'll be the one who'll be sacrificed more than vert. He whacks it like you are. He can hit it sweet. I mean, who are better strikers of a footballing around the world at the moment? Do you think of... At the moment... Pureness of strike.

29:54For pureness, he is really good. Hey, Grimaldo's got a pure strike. Grimaldo his left foot is wicked Channoglu Channoglu yes he can wobble him he can wobble he can wobble he's right good

30:15Alan Shearer:at wobbling him

30:18Gary Lineker:big win for Liverpool after what happened last weekend they needed to get back to winning ways Spurs what a tough start they've had

30:26Alan Shearer:they've had a dreadful start haven't they I mean it's I mean yes they've got two draws but both goalless yeah he needs to turn things around pretty quickly

30:36Gary Lineker:huge can you imagine going having a defeat at the weekend going into the international break three weeks off on the back of that start that's why they desperately need a win at the weekend Spurs

30:48Alan Shearer:I thought a lot of teams played stronger teams than we've seen possibly in the past they weren't completely reserves or youth teams I think is it not because of the size of the squads Probably. And it's a good chance for them to give decent players a game. I suppose the thing is now, the squad is so much stronger that when you see a starting line, you go, oh, actually, that's pretty good. And then you realise it's still a second string in some ways. But speaking of one of those players that came in, Tammy Abraham got himself two goals for Villa. Coventry's tough start to the season continues. What's going on at Coventry?

31:25All the metrics, they play well, they don't score, they concede.

31:29Alan Shearer:I think you've just described what's going wrong I know but it's just you can't play that well and be in games and then lose all the time it's not great I think the bad side of that apart from the obvious that you're losing games is that if you're losing games when you feel like you're doing quite well what happens when you stop doing quite well I think they just need to dig in they seem to be fairly easy to score against at present and that in the Premier League, it's a big jump. Obviously, the other two promoted clubs have had better starts. I think for Frank and Cov, as we call them in Leicester, they really need a result soonish, I would say.

32:14Gary Lineker:I think that's one of the problems, is that when you look at Ipswich and you look at Hull and what they've done and how they've won games and then you look at Coventry, that's why it's such a bad look on Frank and Coventry at the minute. It's because the other two that have come up have been getting results and doing well, Hull have been unbelievable and doing well. So that's the thing that will hurt Frank as well, won't it? Just on that, can we try to explain to people the psychology behind it? Because, what, there's been four games already and obviously Coventry have been struggling. But there's still, what, 34 games left?

32:53Oh, it's a long, long way to go. You know, and it's almost like, even as footballers, I don't know, subconsciously think, oh, they're struggling now. But you have the same amount of games left, all the other teams, Hull and Ipswich, who commentary in my book was going to do better than them this season. And that's why we talk about confidence so much, don't we? In football, because otherwise we'd just say, well, there's so many games left to play. and then there's pressure from the owners. I just love the psychological thing about football, why people now think, oh, well, commentary are done now.

33:31We're only four games in. It's madness.

33:34Alan Shearer:Tammy Abraham had almost forgotten he'd gone to Villa. I mean, he scored one or two goals, obviously, when he joined last season, but he's not really had much of a look. And obviously there was Olly Watkins, the book Jackson as well now. So there is definitely a centre forward in there.

33:49Gary Lineker:We should see more of him. we should see more of him now I wonder why we're not well exactly that's what you'd think I mean maybe it was I get it with Oli Watkins being there him not getting too many opportunities I know they've got Nicholas Jackson too but you should see more of him now and if you don't then that tells you there's an issue he's not good enough if we don't because as you say we've seen enough of him to suggest there's definitely a player in there but there has to be a reason why we haven't seen him I was with him at Villa when we went down to the champ. And guys, he's got everything.

34:26He's got a good first touch for a big man. He holds it up. He can link play. And he can shoot in training. The thing is with Tammy, what I noticed is sometimes it's the composure. So when he was in the championship, he was scoring goals for fun. And then he went to Chelsea. He did really well, didn't he? And then he ended up at Villa. And then he went to Turkey, back to Villa. and I just want not me telling but he gets so many good opportunities but he snatches at a lot of things and if he would just have more composure I mean he's a really good player top player the top player but he's always been sort of second fiddle you know it'd be nice if he well obviously you've got Jackson there at Villa now so it's going to be difficult but scoring goals he can score goals all day he can you're saying there that he'd got everything

35:18Alan Shearer:but then you're saying he kind of fluffs his lines a bit in front of goals sometimes, he's not got the composure. So that is an element that he's missing. Yes, yes. Yeah, you're totally right there. But what I mean by that, he's got everything in terms of, so you know with the levels from, say, Championship, then to Premier League, and then when you would go to a Champions League, your reaction time has to be better, doesn't it? Yeah. So the defenders are faster and stronger and they read it a lot quicker. so the time in which you take to let off a shot he's still taking that amount of time sometimes like if he was in the championship or a lower half of the Premier League where if he sharpens that bit up against a better he will score goals and that's the bit he's not got as much time against better players in the Premier League Looking at the draw before we finish tie the rounds Fleetwood versus Arsenal Brilliant Great draw for them And then you've got Liverpool-Chelsea De Javi Alonso-Darby Possibly you could call that one Chelsea beat Leeds of course Didn't they In a nine goal thriller Earlier in the week We've got Fulham against Palace Bradford City Peterborough Man City or Norwich Versus Brighton Could Brighton knock out Both the Manchester clubs Bournemouth Vieston Villa Everton Newcastle Tough draw All away from home

36:43Gary Lineker:I'd say I looked at that And I thought But it's a tough one that is going there. Much prefer it to have been at Itz and James'. But there you are.

36:52Alan Shearer:Yeah. And Sutherland against Brentford as well. And I think this, in many ways, is a little bit like the FA Cup. I think once you get towards maybe the quarterfinals and you start thinking you've got half a chance to win it, then it's one of those two. You don't mind too much if... I mean, I shouldn't say this as a former footballer, but you don't mind too much when you go out to the big clubs, possibly this competition early because it does give you a chance. But it is also an opportunity to play players that you want to give a game to, isn't it? But don't forget, remember at this time of the season, it's still fitness.

37:28You're still not fit yet, are you? So you want to give as much fitness as possible. The players after this week, they're going on international break for three weeks. You know? It's madness. It's absolute madness. So yeah, there's going to be a little bit break there, but it's just I don't know I feel as though the League Cup over the years has become bigger and especially he's been promoting it being bigger because they won it a couple of seasons ago didn't you Al? As soon as Newcastle won it

37:56Gary Lineker:that was it it's a great competition I love it

38:00Alan Shearer:Alright if you're going to gloat about that Al tell me about Monday Oh

38:06Gary Lineker:dreadful you can't you can't have you can't have too many of those performances in a season I mean they just got battered they got bullied Leeds did to Newcastle what Newcastle were doing a year or two ago in terms of the bullying teams and going after teams and Leeds did that to Newcastle and absolutely battered us so yeah you don't need too many of them big game again you know I keep saying about this international break the big game at the weekend for Newcastle at home to Hull you do not want to go three weeks without getting the right result after what's happened on Monday night marching on together what about him he keeps sending those stupid messages after every Leeds goal Leeds Leeds Leeds Yorkshire Yorkshire Yorkshire alright

38:58Alan Shearer:let's go before we fall out that's it for this episode of the rest is football goodbye from me goodbye from me goodbye from me have a great weekend

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