English Trio Concede 28 Goals In Champions League Humbling

17:05Gary Lineker:I would agree with that, but I looked at them the other night when Mbappe comes on, coming back from injury. They've got Bellingham to come back from injury. They've got a lot of players injured. at the minute. Yeah, so, yeah, I don't know. It's their competition, isn't it? It pisses me off, Real Madrid. They get Man City all the time and always beat us. Four times out of five. Honest to God.

17:29Alan Shearer:It's an odd one. You'd have thought that you'd have been more even than that. Yeah, but it was only because of Val Verdi's wonder performance in the first leg. You know, he's just a special player turned up at the right moment. And then it was always going to be tough to overturn that, wasn't it? And the red card was, that was it, wasn't it? It was like, oh God, end of the game. Watching the first bit, I thought, oh City got chances. Ah, this should probably have stuck one away. They only need one to get really in it. Yeah. Then it was like, oh, that's it then. Penalty in 10 men.

18:00Gary Lineker:No one disagreed with it, did they? They had to send them off,

18:04Alan Shearer:I think that under the laws, yeah. I mean, he did shove his arm out a little bit, didn't he?

18:09Gary Lineker:He did, yeah.

18:10Alan Shearer:He should have left it. I'm not sure. Do you think it would have gone in? I think so, probably, yeah. He's still better off actually being four down than with 11 men, I think. I don't know, but it's instinctive, isn't it? You just go, oh, and he's that little lean across. But it was unfortunate. Who's the most impressive performance? The English clubs, do you think? Liverpool bouncing back? I mean, Galatasaray I thought were awful. They didn't offer anything in that game, but at the same time, take nothing away from Liverpool. It was a much better overall performance.

18:41Gary Lineker:I think in terms of energy and attitude and all of those things, I know Anfield was rocking and it's different again on Champions League nights there. But I thought for all of those things that I've said, it was much better from Liverpool. Now, whether it was all of that and a bit of Galatasaray being really poor away from home as well, because they were, weren't they? I mean, they were a pretty weak opposition away from home. I think it was Stevie Gerrard said it after the game. he said it well where's that energy and all of that in the league games you know where was that at the weekend against Tottenham so they've got to come back and go again Liverpool on Liverpool I don't know how much that's taught us though because Galatasaray

19:23Alan Shearer:are not great they were poor yesterday and obviously Osserman was struggling he wasn't fit was he up top no they're not but I was buzzing for slot because it just quiet downs and noise a little bit I really like slot as a manager obviously he's won the league and he's had to deal with a lot of heat recently and he's been trying to tweak things and not quite getting it right and it was good he puts the Mosley back in midfield they sort of played like a four box and then two and tactically everyone knew what they was doing a little bit more had more energy but they had the protection when they needed to put Frimpong back to right back and then he went forward at the right times when you talk about energy and you mentioned Steven Gerrard, when you take Saboslai out the midfield, you're going to lose that energy because McAllister has not got the same levels.

20:15When you've got Saboslai in there, it's totally different. And when they played Spurs at the weekend, Saboslai played right back and then that's how Spurs got back into the game. And I just thought in terms of the balance and the structure of the team, it was way better.

20:30Gary Lineker:He's been brilliant this season, Saboslai, hasn't he? He's been absolutely outstanding. I was going to say, we talked about

20:36Alan Shearer:players of the season and I think my top three at present and it's still early still early would be in no particular order Bruno Declan and Saboj Lai I would say I mean I never include defenders on this Michael you know what Gabrielle I would possibly put in there as well Raya Raya Raya's been incredible now come on come on come on defenders

20:59Gary Lineker:Mike you're going too far with goalkeepers

21:01Alan Shearer:it's too much but I agree with you Raya's and yeah so fantastic he makes a worldy save every single game every single game

21:10Gary Lineker:amazing that is his job alright Roy he's turned into Roy Keane no but come on some of the saves that he makes they're not normal

21:24Alan Shearer:he's incredibly athletic isn't he and agile yeah proper agile yeah anyone else prayer of the year top 5, 6 as soon as you've got throwing goalkeepers and you know it's not been a great season.

21:37Gary Lineker:No, I wouldn't go anywhere other than those four or five you mentioned. Gabriel chuck in there as well. Harland, if he scores number 10 by the end of the season and wins the league with Man City, you never know.

21:49Alan Shearer:No, you don't know. I mean, he could definitely do that and start turning it on again. I think I said that a week or two ago that he could come into the equation. Him scoring the other night as well might just release something. Might be the time to start capturing him again in our fantasy teams.

22:06Gary Lineker:We'd had the discussion about it's very different when you're playing with a partner up front than it is on your own. And it's no coincidence that he gets the goal when he's back on his own again.

22:16Alan Shearer:And had chances as well, near misses. Yep, exactly. Is Courtois the best? Or a Raya? By far. Oh, you've just mentioned Raya. No, no, no. Raya is the best in the Premier League, but Courtois is the best in New York.

22:30Gary Lineker:He made some good saves the other night as well, didn't he? Every game, He makes incredible saves. You're like, how was he doing it?

22:39Alan Shearer:Yeah. He's one of the reasons that Real Madrid have been so good in this competition. You remember the final against Liverpool in Paris? Yes! Oh, my word. He won that. He won that for them. I mean, absolutely. Liverpool would, I thought, the better side.

22:55Gary Lineker:And that big save last week from Nico O 'Reilly, you know, and he stuck a leg out. I mean, that might have been very different if that goes in, what is it 3-1 so different but even that save was outstanding so you're all pally with Courtois Thibaut

23:08Alan Shearer:we had a little chat after the game you know when's he coming on the pod then Michael when's he coming on the pod I presume you asked him you know what I didn't ask him but I'll give him a text I'll give him a text don't worry about that I missed some of the Newcastle Barcelona game last night Alan because I was doing an interview with James Milner

23:31Gary Lineker:I hope you missed the second half.

23:33Alan Shearer:It was the second half I missed, yes. Unfortunately. I would have enjoyed that. So, yeah, I was interviewing James Milner for the podcast coming on. Later today, I'm going to be interviewing John Terry. Oh, wow. Brilliant. On Monday, I'm doing Jamie Vardy. So, at least one of us is doing a bit of graffiti. Love it, guys.

23:54Gary Lineker:How nice is James Milner? What a lovely guy, yeah?

23:57Alan Shearer:A lovely guy. and yeah he was really good and you both played with him of course of which I asked him about so that was so when's that coming out? next Friday not this Friday coming the following Friday so yeah he was great James he was here for quite a long time oh he come to your house did you do a bit of cooking? well I was cooking anyway but not because of that I was cooking because it was it's football and footy sorry honey food and football food and football and footy what the fuck yeah what the fuck all the F's that came out weird didn't it football and footy could he give him a little sneak peek about what was it about obviously I know what it was about but did you go into any I don't know whether you know he says he's messaged you quite frequently about something about Teary Henry's shirt yeah but save that for I'll get your reaction to his side of events after it goes out Micah but I must say he loved you both he had a lot of love for both of you feelings mutual he said how lazy he was how it was pre-season training and all that he said so you know you both got a little bit of stick but a lot of love not quite as much love as Jerry gave you Micah it did remind me of it let's take a break there because I've no idea where we are this episode is brought to you by Microsoft's 365 co-pilot guys where would we be without our teammates who's your favourite

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27:58Alan Shearer:Welcome back to the rest of this football with Alan Shearer, Michael Richards and me, Gary Lineker, discussing the Champions League games and well, Arsenal just carry on, you know, very solid, very reliable, difficult to score against still in all four competitions you know we've seen teams in the recent history haven't we with City and Liverpool both you know had outside chances of a quadruple it's it's obviously still highly unlikely but they've got a cup final up the other weekend the Carabao Cup against City obviously so it's tough but if they win that then you look ahead and you go it's possible they're comfortably clearing out in the Premier League very very strong favourites to win that really good chance in the FA Cup obviously and now they're in the quarter finals of the Champions League where they'll face Sporting and they'll be strong favourites to go through in that is it conceivable?

29:00Gary Lineker:The noise will get a lot louder if they win on Sunday clearly but I think without doubt them and Bayern Munich and the Champions League have been for me the outstanding in teams this season for different reasons in terms of goals and tough to beat and everything else. Being the most reliable, I mean, God, four trophies. Goodness me. I know. I don't think they'll do it. Well, no, I don't. No, nor do I. It's unlikely, but it's not inconceivable. But for them to be actually being talked about as if there's a chance, then that tells you how good they've been this season. I also can win the Champions League without doubt.

29:38They can, yeah. I think there's going to be another twist in the league.

29:41Gary Lineker:You hoping or you think? No, no, I think there will be because I think Arsenal have got a lot of games and obviously they've got extra games with the Champions League. I think a lot's going to rest on the cup final this weekend and that could go any way. I think from Man City's point of view, they'll take a lot of confidence from Real Madrid. With 10 men to play like that, I thought was outstanding. But it's just whether Arsenal think, okay, let's go for the Champions League. Let's concentrate on the league. Because I think they can win both of them. Do you think you can do that, Mike?

30:15Alan Shearer:Yeah, I do. Do you think you can have a conversation before the Carabao Cup final and go, right, let's just focus? It doesn't really work like that, does it? This is a cup final. You're going to go all out to win it because the momentum and the impact that that victory would have, I mean, also takes a little bit of the heat off because they've not won, what is it, five years since they won anything? so it takes the heat off and then if you go into it and think well you know we'll play a second string a little bit and we'll focus make sure we win the league and then you don't win that game and then all of a sudden momentum lose it a bit I don't know you make some valid points and you're totally right Arsenal are not going to approach the game and thinking we'll play a second string team not at all but Arsenal might not be in this you know when you look at the league and the Premier League Man City being off we talked about Chelsea we talked about Liverpool Man United have come back stronger now this is an opportunity for them to capitalise on two big trophies I look at the Champions League and the way Arsenal play defensively and I said it a couple of weeks ago they can win it they would be one of my favourite they've got a better chance to win that because defensively and they'll always nick a goal with the Premier League I thought it'd be closer now and I thought it would just go to the Man City game.

31:37They've got their little edge on that now. So if you're looking at what Arsenal's route to potential final of the Champions League, you take it all day and then you're thinking you've got that little buffer in the Premier League. I'd be looking at the League Cup thinking, yes, it's a trophy. We all want a trophy, but it's not the biggest of the trophies. So if they were to lose that, I wouldn't be losing sleep over it because they're in a perfect position position now to win two humongous trophies.

32:09Alan Shearer:Likely semi-final, isn't it? I would think Barcelona versus Arsenal. That game, Arsenal would beat Barcelona. Of course they could. If Barcelona play that high line, and we've talked about it, then Arsenal will absolutely batter them. If they take it back five yards, Barcelona could absolutely batter Arsenal. You know? They could. do you think Arsenal have got the players that can capitalise on that highlight to get behind Martinelli 100 % shout Martinelli Martinelli would absolutely love to play against that without doubt even Jokeres Jokeres he's not the quickest but he's a strong runner if he won all his goals before when he was in that sport that's what he used to do that's what he used to do so I think if they played at Highline against Arsenal Arsenal are absolutely battering.

33:05Gary Lineker:Well, they will play it. Yeah, they're not going to change now, are they, Barcelona? No. That's the way they play, that's who they are. They're trying to outscore what he's got in his squad, yeah.

33:13Alan Shearer:Certainly, I'll score Newcastle, that's for sure. Can we talk about this? Because he was giving it, he was, we were the better team for three halves. This guy, the mighty Alan Shearer always telling me, well, it's not about, it's about the goals, goals, goals change, so go on, since there were so many goals in this game the floor is yours Alan

33:36Gary Lineker:I have no defence Mike very much like Newcastle

33:44Gary Lineker:God defensively Newcastle were hopeless I mean that's been their season that summed their season up last I mean they go to Chelsea and we play Barcelona at home I didn't expect us to go there and win I didn't expect that to happen to us I mean it was just terrible at the back so many errors Even the set piece they scored from was like, come on, you can't concede goals like that. So it was really, really disappointing. As good as the first game was at home, as good as parts of the first half were where Newcastle put them under pressure. But you can't expect to win any game of football defending like that, let alone against some world-class players.

34:25Newcastle could take heart from that, though. Until they started making the silly errors, I thought that was really good I thought that was outstanding in fact and Alanga to get a couple of goals obviously being struggling in the Premier League come to the Champions League that'll do him the world of good with his confidence but I was watching Newcastle thinking yes I like what I'm seeing here there was aggressive there was there was pace in the team they knew exactly what they were tactically they got it spot on up until the mistakes and if you go to Barcelona you make mistakes you get punished but I come away thinking fair play Newcastle you know you give it a right

35:03Gary Lineker:good go I think all will be forgotten on Sunday afternoon if they beat Sunderland I'm going to that game Alan you are yes I've never been to

35:14Alan Shearer:what do they call it Time Weird Derby is that what they call it yeah I thought so I've announced it about 400 times over my years so yeah looking forward to that I'm going to have a little foodie trip up in the lovely in the north east and taking taking a you're coming to see you're coming to see you're coming to see you're coming to see you're coming to see high noon at St James' Park I love it guys love it I'm looking forward to it I'm sorry you're not going to be there with because you're working on it I'm doing PLP

35:40Gary Lineker:I'm doing match of the day Saturday and I'm doing PLP on Sunday for that thing double bubble double header double bubble yeah hey guess who I'm working with on Sunday who Ian Wright Wright Wright Ian Wright Wright are you doing the are you doing the cup final Doing the cup final with Wrighty and Jamie Redknapp.

36:04Alan Shearer:Ah, brilliant. Ah, nice one. Love it. Yeah. Give the great man a hug from me, please.

36:11Gary Lineker:He might have sobered up from last weekend. Oh, he was at your bash,

36:16Alan Shearer:wasn't he?

36:16Gary Lineker:Yeah, he was, yeah. Did you beat him at golf, Al? No, he was my partner, so we won the golf, me and Wrighty beat the young boys, yeah. So, yeah. Well done. It's always good

36:26Alan Shearer:to get a victory. Elsewhere, PSG coming into a bit of form, Bayern Munich looked really strong. We saw Chelsea go out. What do we think of Chelsea? I mean, it's just quite battering they got. Yeah. Since I said Chelsea were cooking, mate, they've gone backwards. I was going to say, you were going, listen, the oracle is speaking here. And since then, I was going to raise that point, Michael, but you got in ahead of me. No, but trust me, stick with it. I can see it. Well, they stick with him, weren't they? Because it's too early. You never know with Chelsea. That's the thing. You don't know what they're thinking.

37:02Alan Shearer:Because with some strange little things and perhaps a little bit of an inexperience in the sense you've got the huddle thing in the halfway line, which he says is nothing to him. The referee thing the other day was so bizarre. It was bizarre, wasn't it? So bizarre for both. I mean, the ref should have just got that. Can you explain that to me though, guys? I can't explain that. No, no, no. But you're very good at these sort of things. So we know they do the huddle. Nothing wrong with the huddle. whether you like it or not. A lot of teams have done the huddle. A lot of teams do a huddle. But why was the referee there?

37:35Why was the referee actually in between the huddle? No one's actually giving me an explanation. I'm thinking, why is he there?

37:42Gary Lineker:My guess is that he has tried to prevent it from it going ahead. And they've just thought, oh, Sada, we're going to do it anyway and we're going to get you in it. Whereas he stood there thinking they will not get me in the middle of it. They might just do it a few yards either way. And that's my guess.

37:57Alan Shearer:I actually thought it was quite funny. I mean, it was bizarre. But was it Tierney? And he was in the middle there. You could see Cole Farmer wanted to make a joke or something. And it just kind of carried on this huddle. I mean, I know lots of people have been speaking about him. I just thought it was just weird.

38:18Gary Lineker:I know it's difficult and it's easy to say after games, but the noise is loud enough. you don't need to give anything back in terms of the referee in the middle and then the words are we need to respect the ball and then it was like I don't know what it was 7-2 down or something like that with three minutes to go and you're giving a piece of paper to Garnaccio and it's like that just brings noise on yourself doesn't it? That's what I thought as well On the football club it's just unnecessary noise that you're creating

38:51Alan Shearer:no problem with a huddle I suspect, Alan, the reason he did that note thing at the end is that, right, we don't give up. We're still playing seriously. But I agree with you. People are going to look at that and go, what are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing? Stick to the coaching, which obviously you can see the patterns of play and this sort of thing. Stick to that. Don't overdo your press conferences. Don't try to come over. Just answer it a little bit. What did I tell you? Be more like Michael Carrick and less like Ruben Amarin in terms of the way you speak in your press conference, etc. I mean, he's young.

39:29Alan Shearer:He's an experienced manager. It looks like he's obviously, you know, in terms of coaching, really. You've seen it, Micah. And, you know, he's got a talent. There's no question about that. But sometimes help yourself a little bit. Just bring it, yeah. A bit of self-awareness. A bit of self-awareness. But what did I tell you? I remember when we first did the pod and I said, he's being naive with the media. He's speaking too much. And I said that from a protection point of thing, because they're going to hang on absolutely every word. And now, look, now that you have a few bad results, now everything becomes even bigger.

40:10And that was the worry. You can tell he's got it. Coaching-wise, definitely. He's not helped by having to have to bring players off after 60 minutes all the time to protect them and all that sort of stuff with the sports science. That's not helping the situation. However, I just think he needs to understand that the media are not there to help you, you know? They're not. They're looking for an angle. They're looking for a story and that's their job. And rightly so, because that's what everyone's got their opinion on football and he's just giving them a little bit too much

40:44Alan Shearer:at the moment. A defeat too for Spurs but at least they well a win for Spurs I should say really second leg to beat Atletico. Little bit of green shoots of possible something a few other players coming back from injury so I'm a little bit more hopeful that Spurs will stay up than I was last week but you know big game against Forest coming up as well. I think a word on Bayern Munich they've been really good in this competition. Did you see Harry Kane second guy in those verses a penalty brilliant finish the second goal

41:17Gary Lineker:wow the foot I was like blimey footwork yeah quick wasn't it and he pings it into the top corner what a goal what a player magnificent what a player they'll take some stopping by Munich

41:27Alan Shearer:in this don't know yet though guys PSG are coming into form as well though aren't they a delight they did last season so it could be that's a semi-final did you watch them in the Bundesliga a couple of weeks ago against Dortmund and it was it wasn't great they were outscored everyone like PSG and all that sort of thing like Barcelona defensively I'm not 100 % sure yet they play Real Madrid next as well don't they Real Madrid what a game that is

41:56Gary Lineker:yeah PSG

41:58Alan Shearer:I'm like you Micah

41:59Gary Lineker:I think they're so strong in most positions but I still have doubts defensively

42:03Alan Shearer:yeah correct yeah who's going to get to the sammys then before we go PSG play Liverpool who's winning that one hmm I think it's tight I think at the under current form I don't know First leg will be PSG are at home first so they have to go back to Liverpool and Anfield Same as last year wasn't it Same as last year that was extraordinary wasn't it and Donnarumma was unbelievable wasn't he kept them away so you know Liverpool have been a bit hit and miss this season though so Who's your four to get through then? That's what I'm asking so I'd probably just edge with PSG at the moment because they seem to be doing what they did last year.

42:46Alan Shearer:I would have Bayern Munich to edge Real Madrid, which is probably stupid. I think that's really tough to call. Atletico Madrid, Barca. Atletico beat Barca over two legs in the Copa del Rey, but they won the first leg 4-0. Barca won the second leg 3-0. So I suspect in this competition though where I think Barcelona should edge that and then you have to go ahead of Sporting Lisbon so you'd have semi-final of Barcelona Arsenal.

43:22Gary Lineker:Yeah my four would be Real Madrid, PSG, Arsenal and Barca. What about you Micah come on. I'm just looking at that second leg at Anfield I know Liverpool have not been great that's the only I think it's a 50-50 game or maybe 55 to PSG just because they're coming to a bit of form. So yeah, I'd probably just edge. If you ask me right now, I'd go PSG, but the second leg at Anfield is going to be tasty. Real Madrid or Bayern Munich. Every time I go against Real Madrid, they go through. So I'm going Real Madrid.

44:00Alan Shearer:Obviously Arsenal. I just think there's something about Vincent Kompany's baggy trousers that... Have you seen them? I've seen them. How big does he want them? I'm going to text him, actually. I mean, what a season he's having, on and off the pitch. He was never a fashionista, I know that much. Well, he can carry it off, I think. He can do what he wants when he's winning leagues in Germany, mate. Yeah.

44:27Gary Lineker:For Amazon, we're doing Sporting Arsenal on the Tuesday. And then the following Tuesday, we're doing that Liverpool PSG game at Anfield. That could be set up.

44:36Alan Shearer:What you don't want there is it to be 4-0 on the field. Although it could be a Barca night. Well, that's true. 3-0 behind. So it's going to be exciting. I mean, once it gets to the quarterfinal stage, the Champions League, there's nothing quite like it. Obviously, it was a shame that Bodo Glint capitulated a bit against Sporting Lisbon. Not so good away from home as at home, but they gave us a little bit of something this season. Before we go, have you seen the AFCON who turned over the final result? A real shame, I think, for African football that something like that should happen. Bizarre, really, that they suddenly decided Morocco won 3-0 because of the scenes that happened.

45:23Alan Shearer:Senegal are going to appeal and you can understand that. I think it, I don't know.

45:29Gary Lineker:After eight weeks.

45:30Alan Shearer:Yeah, eight weeks. And do you know whose fault all this was? I mean, yes, the players shouldn't have responded like they did and there was trouble in the crowd and all that. But what started this? A really, really, really bad VAR intervention. If they hadn't have got involved with that, they didn't need to. It was to overturn and give a penalty on field. None of this would have happened. So, you know, I'm not blaming VAR for the player's response. I'm blaming VAR for creating this situation that was a possibility. It was stupid. How could they not even see that? To overturn a decision of that nature, that stage of the game, when it's goalless in the very, very last minute, and give a penalty, which was, I don't think it was, it certainly was an odd error, was absurd and stupid.

46:28Alan Shearer:And all the players will pay the price. Senegal players thought they eventually won it. Yes, they shouldn't have gone off the pitch. Mane got them back out. So it's not like they, you know, they didn't carry on the game at some point. They, you know, eventually common sense prevailed on that. I just, I don't know. It's such a shame. I don't think, I mean, bloody VAR. I talked to James Milne yesterday. He was quite interested on VAR. Hates it. He said vast majority of players don't like it.

46:57Gary Lineker:Totally understand that. But to get that decision after eight weeks is just, that's absurd as well.

47:03Alan Shearer:So what are they going to do? Knock on their doors and ask for their medals back? Medals back, yeah. What do you think, Micah? I can't even take it seriously. It's just laughable, isn't it? Like Alan's like, if you're going to do it, you know, do it after it, everything calmed down and made the decision. But to do it now, not a chance. I wouldn't be giving my medal back. Not a chance. That stayed in my trophy cabinet. I think both teams will be claiming they've won it. I think forever. Senegal have won it. Come on. It's a shame for African football because they put on a really good tournament.

47:37Alan Shearer:The final was amazing. The stadium was great. We were there. And it was a joyous occasion. And it was spoiled by that. And it was all because of bloody VAR. Yeah, but then it goes bigger than that. Because then everyone's talking about, oh, this could already happen in AFCORN. Exactly. Exactly my point. picture and that's the most frustrating thing it's opened up a can of worms now for everyone to have a go yeah it pissed me off it's such a the champions we all saw it out of our own eyes it's as simple as that and they were the better team to be honest overall not that means necessary winning football but what an odd decision what an odd strange night that was but yeah bloody vr okay let's call it a day there goodbye from me goodbye from me

48:24Gary Lineker:Goodbye from me