184. Trump's Destroying JD Vance And Rubio's Next

14:14Anthony Scaramucci:I mean, that is one piece of it that needs to be reconciled. There are so many different pieces of this that need to be reconciled. the fact that they still have half of their missiles underground in these missile cities. The fact that actually all we're doing is saying, okay, you have to delay enrichment for 12 years. Well, they need 12 years anyway to rebuild the facilities. So that kind of suits Iran fine. They will rebuild those facilities. They have the scientists, they have the know-how, they're going to find a way to do it. The fact that you haven't dealt with the proxies. I mean, pavement and say, this is a win because we've reopened the Straits of Hormuz.

14:55Anthony Scaramucci:But guess what? The Straits of Hormuz, as we all know, were open in January anyway, and it didn't cost$200 billion and everything we outlined in the last program to get this far. And I think here's the political risk, I think. I think Democrats will go after this. Of course, they will. And if they're smart, I think what they focus on is not the JCPOA. They focus on how much this has cost America in terms of ammunitions and injuries and effects on bases in the region and the amount of money that it has cost to get to the same position that we were in. But I think the problem for Trump is that he sold himself and the team around him, and we're going to get into Vance and Rubio because I think they're falling into the same trap.

15:36Anthony Scaramucci:They sold themselves on being a new kind of politician who told it as it is. And Americans aren't stupid. They know they're being spun. And if Trump stands up there in the rose pavement and sells this as a win, the American public will know that that's not true. They'll know this is a win for Iran, and they'll know that they are being spun and they're getting word salads and dodgy language. And it makes the Trump team look like exactly the kind of politicians that Americans have come to hate because they always feel that's what politicians do. It's politico speak, and I think that doesn't play well for Donald Trump.

16:15Katty Kay:We'll go to Rubio and Vance now. I think it's important, but I just think the JCPOA was a better non-proliferation agreement than the one that Trump is going to end up with. And that's the great irony.

16:29Anthony Scaramucci:With a huge amount of damage that shouldn't be underplayed.

16:32Katty Kay:Yeah, we'll watch these hypocritical talking heads defend it. But, Caddy, go to my favorite two Catholics, Rubio and Vance, but they're really not my favorite two Catholics. But please tell us the drama that's going on and the rumors, Caddy Kay. Spill tea, Caddy. Spill tea. Spill tea.

16:51Anthony Scaramucci:Well, I don't know if you watched it. There was Marco Rubio doing your old job, Anthony, in the White House yesterday, getting that prime slot. Caroline Levitt is off on maternity leave.

17:02Katty Kay:I didn't have the lip twitch though. I mean, I only did one press conference.

17:06Anthony Scaramucci:You did it so well. Okay, you did not have the lip twitch. We'll talk about serious stuff in a minute, but let's just talk about the style. First of all, the suit. It's too big. He needs to, he's trying to take up space and look like a bigger person than he is. And I mean that physically, not metaphorically. But if he'd just like cut his shoulder pads to suit his actual size, I think it would be better.

17:26Katty Kay:So now that we're picking on people's physicality, you don't like the frankenberry, you know, You ever eat Frankenberry cereal when you were a kid? I mean, he looks like Frankenberry. I have no idea what you're talking about. Okay. Charlie, do me a favor on YouTube, post up Frankenberry next to Rubio. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about. But keep going, Kat. He spilled tea.

17:46Anthony Scaramucci:Okay. So that was not so good. But the fact that he was given the slot was a big deal. You've got all of these polls. We came out of CPAC, all of these polls showing that J.D. Vance is the clear front runner for the Republican nomination for president in 2028. Donald Trump has kind of weighed in on both sides. He is playing both of them off and polling, doing his own little informal polling from the Oval Office. Rubio has said that he's not going to run if JD is running. So JD is the top dog, we all assume, and polls have suggested that. But actually, now you're starting to get polls show that JD is slipping.

18:20Anthony Scaramucci:Rubio is rising. There's a super interesting focus group that's about to be released by the Bulwark for some two-time Trump voters in Louisiana. And the overwhelming majority, nearly all of them say that they prefer Rubio over Vance. The Atlantic's done a story on this. Politico has done a story on this. The Dispatch has done a story on this. And I think Rubio's star is rising. And I think it's tied to the war in Iran that the country's been put through a stress test internationally. professionally and Rubio has probably handled it better than J.D. Vance has handled it. I don't think he was fine in the press room.

18:57Anthony Scaramucci:He joked with the press. He answered a question in Spanish. It was good. I'm being snarky when I talk about his suit. But so the argument for Rubio is that, and here's the main argument, he can win MAGA voters because he's done enough to shore up his bona fides with Donald Trump, but he can also win non-MAGA voters and J.D. Vance in a way that J.D. Vance can. There's a group called Deep Root Analytics. It's a GOP polling firm. They've looked at this and they've shown that more non-MAGA voters would never vote for Vance than would never vote for Rubio. So Rubio's star in Washington, D.C., a little bit quietly on the rise as he flies off to meet the Pope.

19:38Anthony Scaramucci:That's going to be a fun trip for him because Donald Trump again trashed the Pope this week. What do you think? Do you think, I know what you think, you think they're both in the wood chipper, and I think you might be right, but I think so for different reasons.

19:48Katty Kay:Well, no, I think we're going to take out Vance first. Okay. Okay, because Vance, again, I'm in Trump speak again, I am super pissed off, shot whizzed by my ear, I picked Vance 72 hours later, I got$300 million from Teal and Musk, and I ended up with the Manchurian candidate next to me, and I don't like the guy. And so I'm going to put him in the wood chipper, and I'm going to annihilate all Catholics because of him. Vance is complaining about this privately, by the way. And Tucker Carlson has said this to the New York Times, that this has been going on since day one. Now, to know Donald Trump is to know that for certain he's doing this to Vance.

20:27Katty Kay:And I'm sure Vance is on the phone with his broligarch buddy saying, WTF guys, what did you get me into? This guy's trying to kill me. It's a full-on patricide. Okay, so that's Vance. Okay, we'll put him over there. And what's Vance's weakness with the voters? I am going to pat us on the back because I said eight months ago, the guy's going into wood chipper. He's halfway through the Fargo wood chipper. OK, so now let's go to what's going on with the Vatican, because this is where I'm going to spill a little tea. I know that congressional leadership has gone to Rubio and congressional leadership has even gone to trump and said guys ohio michigan pennsylvania these are blue-collar working class

21:11Anthony Scaramucci:catholics 80 million catholic voters in the country this pope is the most popular american

21:17Katty Kay:right now what are you guys doing okay and so remember i just want to remind everybody they made the outreach okay so they made the outreach may 7th 11 30 a.m he's going to be getting together with Pope Leo, but there are fault lines here because, you know, they're going to talk about the around war, immigration. Guess what, Caddy? Cuba. Cuba's got to come up. The Pope is not going to be in love with a sovereignty takeover of Cuba, okay? And here's where Vance got himself in trouble, and he did exactly what Trump would have predicted him to do, which is why he lit up the Pope and had the Jesus stuff going on on Orthodox Easter because Vance had to defend Pope Donald Trump the first.

22:07Katty Kay:Over Pope Leo. Okay, so Pope Donald the first, I defend you. And my quote is, ready? The Vatican should stick to matters of morality and let the president stick to dictating American policy. And you're laughing, Catty K. and you know who else is laughing the orange maniac is laughing because the orange maniac does not have dementia he knows how to f with people and he knows how to steamroll them

22:38Anthony Scaramucci:and he nailed this guy right can i say one other thing though that vance said about the pope please remember which is that the pope should think carefully when he talks about theology

22:46Katty Kay:i know i know the poor guy i mean you know come on this amateur i mean the poor guy this is like

22:51Anthony Scaramucci:The new convert to Catholicism is telling the Pope to think carefully about theology.

22:57Katty Kay:About a week ago, I had lunch with Mitt Romney, who is he's tan fit and ready. Seventy nine. Of course, as a Mormon, he hasn't had any caffeine or alcohol. So he looks forty nine. And Mitt and I were sitting at lunch talking about Vance coming to Mitt's event. And this was Vance Trump as Hitler. The old Vance. Yeah, yeah. The old Vance is mumbling down deep about the new Vance thinking that he really should be like the old Vance. I'll let everybody figure out that word epigram. But anyway, I said to Mitt, I said, can you believe this guy? And Mitt was just like shaking his head and saying, you know, it's just morally vacuous to be doing what he's doing.

23:37Katty Kay:But here's the thing that people should really pay attention to. He's in the poll position to be the Republican nominee. And Rubio has told people, I'm not saying he's going to live up to it, because Rubio, as we know, is a weathervane. I'm not sure he lives up to it. He has told people he's not running if Vance runs. Now, Vance has dropped in the prediction markets. But, Caddy, this is the Republican Party still. and the vice president, whether it's Bob Dole, George Herbert Walker Bush, the vice president, even Walter Mondale on the side of the Democrats, the vice president generally gets the nod.

24:17Anthony Scaramucci:The only thing is Vance was in Iowa, Iowa, no coincidence this week. He sounds like he has a little bit of a Kamala Harris problem because he's out in Iowa telling these good Midwesterners, It's all going great. Donald Trump's the greatest president ever, but there is more work to be done. The moment he says, but there's more work to be done, that is the Kamala Harris problem. He's the conundrum of all vice presidents, and it's particularly difficult with this president because he doesn't want a single iota of disloyalty. So there is Vance out there trying to say, OK, I really sign up to everything Donald Trump has done, but I'm also my own man and I will do things differently.

25:02Anthony Scaramucci:And it's not going to be, you know, Trump 3.0 if you elect me. And that's the kind of code that he's got to get across. But it's a super hard one to do. Kamala Harris couldn't pull it off with Joe Biden. I'm not sure that J.D. Vance is going to be able to distance him enough, himself enough. I think you're right. Probably Vance and Rubio end up in the wood chipper. But I think it's a slightly different reason. I think it's because Trump is putting his own record into the wood chipper. And if you are running as an heir to Trump, which either of these men will have to do unless they break with him spectacularly between now and 2028, which they're not going to do.

25:38Anthony Scaramucci:If you're running as an heir to Trump, if things are in 2028, anything like what they are today, which we don't know, there's two years to go, right? It could be very different. It could all be going swimmingly. It's going to be difficult for a Republican to get elected, any Republican to get elected, but particularly one who is associated with Donald Trump.

25:57Katty Kay:So I'm going to make a prediction and then I'm going to ask you a question. So I'm going to predict on this podcast that Trump fires Marco Rubio.

26:06Anthony Scaramucci:Might do him a favor, actually.

26:08Katty Kay:Maybe, but he's going to try to fire and disgrace him before the end of the term. And so that will be the way to knock Rubio around. And Trump is emboldened by what happened in Indianapolis, where what he says goes in the Republican Party. And just to remind people, Trump went after a few state senators. He's going to be emboldened by that. We'll talk about that in the second half. But one more point, which I think is very important here, is the Maloney angle. So there's a Maloney wrinkle to all of this. She's a longtime Trump ally. Georgia Maloney, Italy. Yeah, Georgia Maloney. She's now defending the Pope.

26:43Katty Kay:And of course, Trump has turned on her too. and we're going to be pulling thousands of troops out of Europe now because we're going to, even though Europe is the whole spine to our military footprint and our reach into the Middle East and to all the global energy supply chains. And so it would be absolutely stupid of us to pull out the people, but we're going to do this because the orange baby man Trump is upset with German leadership.

27:13Anthony Scaramucci:Truth to power. Truth to power.

27:15Katty Kay:So we're going to do this. But talk about Maloney because I think Maloney is a big thing here because she represents something that European populists are also turning on Donald Trump. And this also hurts Nigel Farage. So go ahead. Tell me what's going on there.

27:31Anthony Scaramucci:Yeah. I mean, you've seen it in France. You've seen it in Italy. You've seen it in the UK, particularly around the war in Iran, where European populists who had been associating themselves with Donald Trump really don't like the war in Iran. They're reading the room of their own people, and so they're distancing themselves. Maloney had fallen over backwards to get close to Donald Trump and had done a very good job of it. But she has the double whammy of his criticism of Iran and then his criticism of the Pope. So I don't know, these congressional Republicans that are calling on the Trump administration to tone it down, on Donald Trump to tone it down when it comes to his criticisms of the Pope, they're not having much success because just this week, ahead of Rubio flying to the Vatican, Donald Trump goes on Hugh Hewitt's radio show and says, the Pope would rather talk about the fact that it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

28:24Anthony Scaramucci:I don't know about your understanding of the papacy, but my understanding of the papacy is that probably Pope Leo is not out there saying he loves the idea of Iran having a nuclear weapon. I just don't quite buy it. Before we go, one thing that I do think for Donald Trump, come the nominating process for 2028, I think he wants to be the star of the 2028 Republican National Convention. And I think he wants to stand up there on the stage and have it all be about him again. And he wants to bless the nominee as his chosen person. So I don't know how that convention plays out if it's not Rubio or Vance.

29:03Anthony Scaramucci:That's an interesting, I don't know who the person is, unless it's Don Jr.

29:06Katty Kay:Or it could be the full narcissistic, nihilistic fury where he doesn't endorse anybody. But let me just say these three quick things. Number one, the first move is we demote Rubio. We take away the NSA from him. Okay. And again, I want to remind everybody here, Rubio is doing the exact job that Trump hired him to do. He's taking the meetings Trump won't take. He's absorbing blame for things. And let me tell you something. He's getting bigger than Donald Trump, ladies and gentlemen. And when that happens, that press conference yesterday sounded articulate, was even putting complete sentences together.

29:45Katty Kay:Trump does not like that. He would prefer dumb, dumb head, Seth. The head looks good. Trump has a crush on him. Doesn't like Rubio's brain. So he's going to demote him first. OK, and then he's going to eviscerate him later in the term. And I predict that that will happen. And that will be the take to Vance gone first, dispatching him and then Rubio.

30:08Anthony Scaramucci:OK, we're going to take a break and quickly come back and talk about the night of the long knives. Trump exacts revenge in Indiana.

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31:41Anthony Scaramucci:Welcome back to The Rest is Politics. U.S., we're going to talk about the midterms. Yes, they're not until November, but there was a very big test of Donald Trump's power over the Republican Party that is taking place right now. We had elections. Tuesdays are always Election Day in America. Tuesday, we had elections in Indiana. and Trump had backed a bunch of primary challenges against seven Republican state senators who had rejected his calls for them to redistrict Indiana in the run up to the midterm election. So there's this big redistricting campaign going on around the country. Texas said to Donald Trump, yep, Mr.

32:21Anthony Scaramucci:Trump will do it. Florida said to Mr. Trump, yep, Mr. Trump will do it. your little dog imitation that you do there. Whap, whap. That sounded more like a duck, actually. Whack, whack.

32:31Katty Kay:It's more like woof, woof.

32:33Anthony Scaramucci:Woof, woof.

32:34Katty Kay:Yeah, there you go. Not whack, whack. There you go. It's so revolting.

32:37Anthony Scaramucci:But Indiana comes back like a lion. We are not doing your bidding, Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump doesn't like that. And so he weighs into the state Senate so he can try and change the legislature to be more Trumpy. and he has a cracking night in Indiana and proves once again that Donald Trump controls the Republican Party, or at least he controls the Republican Party primary voters in a very red state like Indiana because of those seven state senators who he tried to oust, five of them have been ousted, five of Donald Trump's candidates. One, a whole load of cash went into the state, $14 million. I mean, I've never heard so much discussion, Anthony, of a state Senate primary race in American politics, but it was a test of Donald Trump's pulling power in the Republican Party.

33:32Anthony Scaramucci:And the message to Republicans is only defy Donald Trump when you can keep your political career if you want to have a long life in politics. Because if you want a long life in politics and you defy Donald Trump right now, you are going to be voted out in a primary.

33:49Katty Kay:Well, I mean, I'm surprised we don't have t-shirts like they do at the concerts, right? Fiona, our producer, is calling this the revenge tour, right? So we could have orange t-shirts made up. The headline, for me, the headline is a pretty simple headline. Trump still owns the base. It was an expensive election, though. And this goes back, Caddy, just for some historical analysis, back to Operation Red Map. So when these state legislator races were very small, billionaires pumped money into these races and they got their candidates to win and then they flexed redistricting. You have to, again, ask the following question.

34:31Katty Kay:The Republicans have the lowest registration as a percentage of registered people, Democrats, Republicans and independents. And yet they control the Supreme Court, the presidency, the House and the Senate. How did they do that? They did that through this, Caddy Kay. They did that through last night's election results. So blowing that kind of money, OK, it was one hundred and twenty six dollars per primary vote versus sixty seven dollars for last year's vote vote. Could have bought them a good meal. You got to love these guys. But I want to bring somebody into the mix here. okay deus ex machina ron desantis and let me explain why i'm bringing him in he's moving already to redraw the florida maps uh he's going to do that before he leaves office and oh by the way my hand is up if you're listening at home i am ron desantis i am running for president in 2028 and by the way what i'm hoping is trump will kill off the two people closest to him and i'm maga enough.

35:39Katty Kay:Okay. Now Trump hates him as well, because remember he's saying he's begging, he's on his knees, Caddy Kay, begging for a job in the administration. But DeSantis is like that kid. When I was a kid playing dodgeball, you had to always watch out for the nerdy kid.

35:55Anthony Scaramucci:Who never went away. He was always there.

35:57Katty Kay:Exactly. He was lurking in the back with the ball. You could not get rid of him. And he was waiting for the two jocks to beat the brains out. And at the last moment, he ran up and he knocked the other jock out and won the dodgeball match. And this is Ron DeSantis lurking in the background. So go ahead, Caddy, analyze.

36:15Anthony Scaramucci:OK, so here's the problem for I think Republicans came out of or MAGA came out of last night in Indiana and thought that was a great night for Donald Trump. Woo, this is great for MAGA. But here's the problem. The GOP base is still as tied to Donald Trump as it ever was. People who bother to go out, I mean, honestly, people who bother to go out and vote in a state Senate primary are pretty dedicated voters. They are on the more extreme wing of the party. So that's the base, you saw it right there, the MAGA base. If you want to know how many there are, if you want to know who they are, you need it to be in Indiana on Tuesday.

36:51Anthony Scaramucci:The geo base is still as tied to Donald Trump as it ever was. But all of the polls that we've spoken about over the last few weeks have shown us that the rest of the country is moving away from Donald Trump as fast as it can. So is Ron DeSantis in that scenario the candidate who can square the circle? Can he stay close to Trump enough to win the presidential nomination in 2028, but also persuade a general electorate that there is daylight between him and Trump's policies? Do you think he can do that?

37:23Katty Kay:I don't think he can do that. No, I just don't think he has the right personality.

37:26Anthony Scaramucci:I don't think he's a skilled enough politician to do that.

37:29Katty Kay:He doesn't have the right personality. Also, he's in a debate when Gavin Newsom cleaned his clock. He went on Haddardy's podcast to explain how he beat Gavin Newsom. It was too... You gotta... When you're getting your ass kicked, one of the best ways to prevent yourself from getting your ass kicked again is to admit you got your ass kicked. Okay? And then you say, okay, I got my ass kicked. I gotta go back and train, right? Right. You know, you know, when when Apollo Creed beat Rocky, he didn't pretend that he he beat Apollo Creed. He went out and retrained. This is DeSantis's problem. He'll have the money.

38:03Katty Kay:He has a good brand, good national brand. Florida is coming up aces, particularly with Mondani crushing people in New York. I think what Mondani did to Ken Griffin, the billionaire hedge fund manager, was absurd. And Griffin called him out on it at the Milken Conference this week. and it just also he put the guy in danger i don't even know why he would do that and now you're not going to get that building built which is you know tens of thousands of potential jobs in the city but separate topic but i just don't think desantis has the personality ready right he's nick sony and weird caddy k yeah he's a little weird and he and he wears white

38:41Anthony Scaramucci:wellingtons you can't be president and wear white wellingtons when you're filmed on the beach

38:45Katty Kay:that's some weird stuff right that was like nixon that was like nixon with the black socks on the beach when he was walking with bb rebozo you know what i'm saying doesn't work also you know i have to fully confess that the santas has bashed me a few times so i could be biased oh i could be biased

39:05Anthony Scaramucci:oh um let's quickly talk about the ohio race because there's a bunch of midwestern races and They're all interesting. The Ohio race, Sherrod Brown, the former Democratic senator, is running in the primary there to be the Democrats nominee for senator again. God knows why he wants to go back into the Senate at the moment. But there you go. God bless him. He does. He's very popular in Ohio. He won the Democratic nomination. Not much surprise. So he'll be up against John Husted, who is the sitting Republican senator who was put in there after J.D. Vance stepped down. I think Sherrod Brown, actually, because he himself is so popular in Ohio, he is one of the people that the Democratic Party are going to spend money on trying to pick up his that seat again and flip Ohio and help them get control of the Senate.

39:59Anthony Scaramucci:So you're looking at Iowa, you're looking at Ohio, you're looking at Maine, Michigan.

40:03Katty Kay:Not going to happen. I make a prediction here. Ohio is too red. No, no. He's too anti-crypto. Right. You guys will say, oh, crypto is not that big of a deal. Let me tell you something. OK, the crypto bros put$40 million into the Marino-Sherod Brown race. OK, and they crushed Sherod Brown. He was a three time sitting senator, very powerful head of the Senate Banking Committee, hated crypto a la Elizabeth Warren style. And they blew$40 million knocking his ass out of that seat. And the crypto bros are locking and loading right now. Interesting. And they are richer two years later than they were last time.

40:45Katty Kay:The coffers have swollen. So Sherrod Brown either better back off the anti-crypto stuff or get prepared to get annihilated again. That's my prediction there. So we'll see. That's interesting. Talk about Bill Cassidy for a second. Here's a here's a Republican fighting for his life.

41:04Anthony Scaramucci:So that's a primary that's coming up on May the 16th. Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor who has had run into a whole load of problems because he voted to confirm RFK Jr. as the Secretary of Health and Human Services, but has since been very critical of him around the vaccine stuff. and he's been critical of him in public and critical of some of his appointments. And that has not won him any favors in Trump world, who, as we know, you have to be loyal, not 99 % of the time, you have to be loyal 100 % of the time. And being the biggest critic out there of RFK Jr. has not gone down very well. He also voted against Trump in the impeachment trial of 2021.

41:54Anthony Scaramucci:Another thing that Donald Trump has not forgotten. And so Trump has backed his primary challenger, Representative Julia Letlow. I think Cassidy could be beaten in Louisiana. And then you've got, you know, obviously the redistricting issue in Louisiana as well, where they're going to try and move as fast as they can on that ahead of the midterm elections. I don't know if they can do it in time, but I think Cassidy's in trouble.

42:19Katty Kay:he's in big trouble because trump he's been too vocal about his criticism and and trump still owns the party and if the party doesn't show in other words if he loses the primary bye-bye and even if he wins the primary he's in trouble because of the pressure of the maga people not voting for him come election day so but you know caddy loyalty is a hundred percent on trump's mind for these primaries and we can definitely see that looking at Rubio and Vance too. And by the way, shameless plugging here if you don't mind, we went even deeper into Rubio's political journey in our members only series.

42:59Katty Kay:So take a listen to the second part of our Rubio series. Marco Weathervane Rubio, the most powerful Hispanic official in American history.

43:13Anthony Scaramucci:The man who presented himself as the reasonable pro-NATO global statesman of the Republican Party and is now doing whatever Donald Trump wants him to do. The son of Cuban immigrants. He joins an effort to try to get comprehensive immigration reform through the Senate. It's known as the Gang of Eight.

43:34Katty Kay:He goes from the Gang of Eight to becoming Stephen Miller.

43:37Anthony Scaramucci:Telling senators, I'm not going to cut things at the State Department. And what does he do? He comes in and makes those cuts.

43:43Katty Kay:I have to tell you directly and personally that I regret voting for you for Secretary of State. You had all that pro-Ukrainian legislation as senator. We should work with our NATO allies and the European Union to help equip and train the Ukrainian military forces. And then you did a 180 on Ukraine as Secretary of State. You went from being little Marco. Little Marco, little Marco.

44:05Anthony Scaramucci:To something far more influential.

44:07Katty Kay:There's no bridge that's too far for Marco to cross.

44:10Anthony Scaramucci:It's not just survival, it's succession. Marco Rubio would like to be president of the United States.

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44:45Anthony Scaramucci:Mildly creepy that we want people to get closer to us and we want to get close to them.

44:49Katty Kay:Okay, that's all right. You're so British. I meant it, you know. Otherwise, it was a great say. In an ethereal way. I didn't mean it in a. Don't worry. You're so British. I didn't mean it in a physical way.

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