Episode 1,000: Rich & Julie Piatt Celebrate By Going Back To Where It All Began

32:14I mean, I didn't have anything else to do on the island. So anyway, let's watch this. This is insane. Episode four of the podcast. Back with Julie Pyatt. So what did we talk about today? Here's a little trailer video. We're going to tell you a little bit about what to expect in this fourth episode of the podcast. So we talked about crashing. Rich crashed today. He's got a little road rash. Yeah, I crashed my bike today out here in Kauai. So we talked a little bit about cycling in Kauai which kind of brought us into talking about my Ultraman race in 2009 because I crashed in that and kind of go through that story a little bit and then we take a hard left and we start talking about relationships and how we kind of try to make it work and some of the pitfalls that we've had and how we kind of navigated this journey together and Julie pontificates beautifully with some really amazing relationship advice so I think that'll be illuminating?

33:10Possibly. Entertaining. I don't know. We hope so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Julie and Tyler take us out with a beautiful live version of Julie's song in the song. So stick around all the way to the end. It's worth it. You want to check out the podcast, you can find it on iTunes, the Rich World Podcast. You can go to richworld.com and listen to it there. We're also on Stitcher Radio. Stitcher. Thank you for your support as of today. We were the number 22 podcast on iTunes for like all podcasts. That includes like the Adam Carolla show and This American Life and Alec Baldwin's podcast and all this stuff.

33:46So it's amazing that, you know, we're only a week into this and that we're in that same, you know, community of amazing broadcasters and amazing talent. And why? Because of you guys, because of your support. Thank you. Thank you so much for your support. We're going to do our best to bring you some really great content. So we hope you uh joins for the journey and we hope you enjoy this episode thanks a lot i gotta say i was pretty i'm pretty locked in you're pretty locked in yeah yeah as usual that is hilarious oh my god can you imagine if we were number 22 now of all podcasts i know things have changed yeah but you know the other thing is is that you didn't know that that it was like that new show algorithm like when you have the new show and then you're like i'm the they boost the new shows and so luckily you didn't really know so that gave you a lot it was it was it was it was encouragement it was encouragement at the time to give me the enthusiasm to continue to pull on the thread and explore it but yeah like there's nothing like like sort of early success to you know get you more emotionally invested and so that served a purpose yeah but for people that don't know like new shows get artificially amplified in the rankings because they want to um boost them for discoverability and then it quickly goes down you know after that or whatever but at the same time like there weren't people were not clamoring to start podcasts at this time like there weren't that many and because of finding ultra and some of the things that i had done like there were some people interested in what I was doing.

35:24And so we were able to tap that audience and we were able to kind of cultivate that community at a time when there wasn't any competition. So it was so much easier to kind of rise in the ranks and stand out. Whereas now it's so saturated, like we're the beneficiaries of, of like right place, right time. Like starting now is a whole different things. And there's so much, not just competition, but saturation. You can't just like, oh, I'm going to have a podcast and talk to interesting people. What's your take? And why should anybody choose to listen to yours when they can listen to a zillion others that are kind of just like that?

36:06So I'm very aware of how lucky we are to have started at that time and at a moment when you could cultivate an audience without a lot of noise around you. And, you know, we've been successful as a consequence of that in many ways, like able to ride this wave and continue to build from there. So there's a lot of, you know, kind of luck and happenstance built into it. But I will say that I did have a sense that this was going to become a bigger thing. Like I loved it so much and it was confusing to me why no one else was listening to these things. And I just thought, this has to grow over time when the technology gets sorted out and becomes a little more facile and there's less resistance to the listening experience.

36:58There's going to become a moment when there's more mass adoption. And that, of course, happened, but I never would have predicted like podcasting would become as big a form of media as it has become. And I'm so grateful that, you know, we were here for all of that. It's just astounding. We were here for it. And you also, you know, delivered with a level of excellence. I mean, I worked my ass off. Like it's a lot more work than I think people realize. Yeah. We never had you any Sunday for 14 years. Yeah. Because we would publish. I've never missed a Monday. Never missed a Monday in your entire.

37:36your entire time right yeah so yeah so there were you know focuses and i mean it was worth it and uh but at least we think it's worth it maybe the kids don't think it's worth it well i don't know but it's you know it's interesting like i mentioned tyler in that video and you know tyler who's now my full-time producer was there from the very beginning and you know i relied upon him heavily like to you know like can you help with the edit and like tyler and trapper and their cousin harry created the theme song which is such a good show and it's like all you know like it all goes back to that early there was something really just so precious and innocent and beautiful about that period of time when we reflect back on it and now to be sitting here you know in a different kind of warehouse, like this extraordinary studio that is a consequence of all of that hard work and labor over so many years, it's impossible for me to not feel grateful.

38:41It's just exceeded every expectation that I could have ever imagined for this experience. And of course, it's provided for our family and then some, but the meaning and the fulfillment comes from two different things for me. First, just the opportunity to have the undivided attention of so many people who inspire me in different ways, who then become part of my... They're not just people on my contact list. Many of them have become friends and mentors and people that I can turn to for advice, trusted advisors, but the fact that it's all an act of service on behalf of the audience. What can I offer that has been helpful for me or that I'm curious about because I think it could be helpful to me that can also be helpful to the audience?

39:40Yes, it's like a for-profit business. But fundamentally, the more I kind of relate to it and engage with it as this act of service, the more fulfilled and purpose-driven and mission-oriented I feel in the process of continuing to make these things. And not that there weren't moments where I came close to burning out, but 14 years later, I still love it. I still love it. I get excited like, oh my God, so-and-so is going to, this person is actually going to come here and they said yes, and they're going to sit here and talk to me. Like, how is this even possible? Like, it's just still stunning and magical to me.

40:22And, you know, obviously it's changed my life and it's changed our family's life. And I know that it's had a, you know, a positive impact on many people out in the world. But, you know, what a blessing and a privilege. Like I can think of no better job for myself and no other pursuit that would have given my life the degree of meaning that that this has and i'm just like so incredibly grateful and grateful to still be in love with it this many years later this episode is brought to you by airbnb which i use all the time because i travel all the time and now that i'm back after back surgery to being very focused on my fitness and my nutrition It's even more important that where I stay be equipped with a nice kitchen to prepare my own meals and also be proximate to a really good gym, which means it's pretty much Airbnb for me all the way, including the trip to D.C.

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43:44to be a guest on your show is a very special experience and i know that your guests will agree with me um i think i'm the most frequent guest i think i've been on over 50 times that many yeah um and uh the way that you uh hold your guests the effort that you put into the research of whatever their love expressions are, whatever they're doing in the world, whatever they're sharing, you really put the time in. Like you don't just show up here to talk to someone without studying them and knowing them and taking a moment to really try to understand why they created what they created, what is their message, what is their heart.

44:31And that is a huge gift. And I know that all of your guests or many of your guests, if they hear this, they will agree with me because I've been the recipient of that gift that you've given, that your ability to hold somebody in that way. And I go back to, you know, the cosmic force putting you in this position because, you know, as a child, you were a, you know, Coke bottle glassed, awkward kid that was not popular. And you are very sensitive and very intuitive. And you can walk in a room and kind of know everyone who's in there. And even without them even knowing, you know, who's in the room, you know what they're accomplishing.

45:18accomplishments are what they've done what is their talent and for you to be put in this type of platform where you interview these people it is truly your joy like you're you're in awe and wonder of these guests and that's what makes it and makes your show so special that's the positive thank you for that i appreciate that i i think like my negative inner monologue is like that's very kind and that's the positive spin on this the negative version of that is like i'm a chronic people pleaser and i'm obsessed uh with other people and how they've achieved status and i want proximity to those people because i think it'll it'll like you know i'll be able to buy osmosis get some of that from them like that's the negative like the craven kind of like negative aspect of that.

46:12I've grown a lot since then, but that's my kind of natural proclivity. And perhaps it's related to the fact that I was a Coke bottle, glass, headgear wearing, eyepatch wearing, awkward child who felt like an outsider all the time and desperately wanted to feel like inside of something. And the podcast allows me that proximity to those kinds of people that make me feel that way. Well, it's nice that you have the awareness, but I would say that I am your wife and your partner and your love. So it's a little different with me, but I don't usually sense that about you around your guests at all. You're extremely celebratory of them and not for your own endeavor.

46:56No, I want to celebrate them. They're here because they inspire me. So I'm not a journalist. If they say something that I disagree with, I'll find a way to gently push back. But I'm not in the business of trying to take their inventory or judge them. I'm trying to create a nonjudgmental space where it's about curiosity and the motivation is to try to understand this person, even if I disagree with them. And I think the original concept that still remains true is to, and this doesn't apply to every guest, but kind of as an overarching philosophy for the show, is to give the audience a version of what you experience in an AA meeting with a round of what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now.

47:50Because that experience can be transcendent, particularly for somebody who has never experienced it, like comes in as an outsider and bears witness to a person who gets up in front of a group of people and like bears their soul and, and spares no detail, no embarrassing, shame inducing detail about like what they did and the crazy shit that happened in their life and the wreckage that it created and how they put the pieces back together and built a life out of the flames and ashes of self-destruction that comes part and parcel with addiction. And it's inspiring to see somebody own their past in that way without shame or without embarrassment.

48:36And when you are in the company or in the presence of that, you can't help but be moved. There's something powerful about somebody who can be so vulnerable while still standing in their power. And I wanted to give the audience that experience, like a version of that experience in a non kind of like outside of the room. So that's why stories of transformation are really the bread and butter of the show. And that doesn't mean that every guest comes in with some crazy before and after story. But when they do, I feel like I'm right in the pocket, the zone. But with every single person who shows up, even if it's an academic or a scientist, I still want to know the origin story and how they got there and what's motivating them.

49:26And what are the obstacles they had to overcome to have the life that they have now such that they can be on a large podcast and impart their wisdom? This is what I've discovered along my life path. We all have some version of that hero's journey. And I think when you create a space that feels safe going to places you wouldn't ordinarily go, particularly publicly, and I can get that person to share something about themselves that maybe they don't ordinarily do publicly. Like there is, there's something powerful about that, that is transcendent that creates that connection with the audience. So it's like authenticity and just, you know, unbridled honesty to the extent that the guest is, is, is, you know, willing.

50:19Like that's always my aim. Well, and you do, you go deeper than, you know, others. And there's usually some very deep emotion that comes out or, or, or feelings of connection, definitely with your guests. It's very, very, you know, very visible. It's very evident. And it's cool to hear you describe that sort of vision and mission and the way that the way that you've thought about the podcast. I don't know that I've ever heard you really explain it that way. And I think it speaks to your equanimity and your choice to stay in a positive light rather than get into polarizing either political perspectives or name calling or, you know, you've always just stayed in the neutral loving space of holding this vision and sharing the human story.

51:07And I think it's something that we have benefited from and that we need and will continue to need and want in the coming years, decades, however we progress. Because it's really the stories that we tell, the human stories that connect us and that are a friend to us along our own paths. Yeah, I want to establish that connection. I want to nourish that connection. And I want to steer clear of trafficking in drama and nonsense for the sake of engagement. And there's plenty of people that do that and some people who do it very well. And I'm not saying there isn't a purpose for that. It's just not the lane that I'm in.

52:00Like I want to create these evergreen episodes that you could listen to 10 years from now. And they're just as relevant and resonant as they were the day that they were recorded. And, you know, I don't always hit a home run with these things. Like I've done a thousand of them. They're not all going to be like amazing. You know, you do the best that you can in the circumstances that you find yourself in. but with change and transformation being kind of like the core recurring theme of the show you know i have to change and transform and evolve along with it i can't sit across from all these people who are imparting wisdom about my own blind spots without having the temerity and the courage to like address those in my own life and simultaneously with respect to the podcast landscape, like it's changed a lot and I have to change with it.

52:52Now the incentive structure is such that it favors people who are trafficking in drama and contrarianism and hot takes and name calling and the like. And my refusal to do that means that the algorithm doesn't always smile favorably, you know, with, I'm talking about YouTube here, uh, on the content that I create. And I have to make peace with that while also trying to understand in order to have a viable business, we have to evolve and change to basically find a way to satisfy the algorithm so the people that have already subscribed to the show actually see it and have access to it. It's fed to them because that's how we find our content these days, while also remaining true to my principles and operating the show from a place of integrity, which is not an easy thing to do.

53:49But you said we're returning to an original timeline, and that was a timeline very much of experimentation and flow and creativity. And so I'm approaching this phase with that sensibility and that mindset. like what can we experiment with just because we've done it this way doesn't mean that this always has to be the format and that's why we've been doing these monologue episodes and like recording the show outdoors and just trying different things and trying to have fun with it and i'm rediscovering some of that original joy because it's you know it is a grind and i've been doing it a long time and i'll fully admit like there's been times where it's like oh it just it becomes like robotic or like okay this is what i'm doing and i do it this way and this is how i'm doing it and it's always going to be this way.

54:37And then times change, appetites change, and I've been forced to have to figure out how to evolve with these things. But that's been fun and almost unburdening. Like, oh, what if it's not like this and we can do it this way? There are no rules. We just think they're rules. And that's made it not only more enjoyable, but it's allowed me to hold it a little bit less loosely rather than like, I have to prepare this way and this is the way the show goes and this is what people expect. You still ask me what I was gonna say before we push record. Oh, well, it drives me crazy. Of all the times you come on, I was like, all right, we gotta sit down and talk about what we're gonna talk about.

55:18And you're like, don't bother me. And then you come on and then you spin your yarns of wisdom and I'm like, okay, I should just let her do it the way that she wants to do it. But it's so cool that you just shared that And what I wanted to ask you is, okay, so if there were no limits, if there were no rules and no limits, I'm really interested to know what is your vision for podcasting, first of all. but more than that um if you could paint it exactly the way you wanted to um podcasting maybe expanding into film projects into other types of media what would be your dream scenario for the next 14 years i don't know that i have a sufficiently satisfying answer to that because I stay out of the business of like, here's my five-year plan, or this is what I want it to look like 10 years from now.

56:18I know you don't either. And I know that's not exactly what you're asking, but, um, I think the first way to answer that is to say that we need to untether ourselves from this word podcasting. Like, I feel like it's a restrictive word, like podcasting connotes audio and two people sitting across from each other with a microphone and that's fine but my sense of how this medium is evolving and evolving rapidly is is that it's transcending that limited definition of like what a podcast is and so what we're seeing because of video and because of the fact that podcasting has suddenly become a video first format which is a whole other in order to explain that like basically it's an audio format and i and most of the audience still listens to it in audio only but video has become important because youtube has figured out discoverability and the only way to put yourself in a position for new people to discover what you're doing is to film it and chop it up into clips and put it on youtube and youtube and instagram these algorithms serve your content up to people who aren't already subscribers or who don't know who you are whereas itunes and spotify like you're just in terms of audio you're just kind of locked in like you don't go to the itunes or spotify home page and take a flyer on a podcast you've never heard of but people are more than happy to like watch a video based on a thumbnail that they see that involves people they've never heard of like that's for some reason our brains our amygdala can like make that leap so anyway podcasting has become a medium in which video is very important.

58:21Some people like that, some people don't. But because of that, it's forced the podcasters to create content that works in video, which means pushing the boundaries of what a podcast is. And so what we're seeing are shows that are essentially two people talking to each other, but are made with video in mind and done in a context that's more dynamic. And so they're starting to look more and more like TV shows and not necessarily TV talk shows, but some blend of documentary storytelling with conversation in which there's an activity involved or travel or there's something else going on. And so I think that trend is going to continue.

59:11And so what that means to me is this door is opening up in which I need to expand my thinking around what this format is and how I can stretch myself to find ways to tell stories and share experiences through a more dynamic format than sitting across from somebody like yourself while we're both sitting in chairs. You know what I mean? And that's exciting. And I'm already working on a few things that have me really excited that I'll share more about later because it just opens up the doors to unlimited possibilities. And that's like fun and gets me out of bed in the morning, excited and like ideating and journaling and imagining what could be possible.

1:00:03Like getting locked into just, well, this is what it is. And the table always has to look like this. And this is what the set is. That's like not a growth mindset. And I think the more I remain attached to that or locked in on that, the more the world is going to pass me by because changes are happening and I'm refusing to change along with them. So change is always calling us. Yes. And we need to answer changes call and change in tandem with the external changes that are being imposed upon us and look upon them as opportunities rather than burdens with, you know, that we just that we just like breed resentment over.

1:00:51I love that. So our next episode, can we do something where I'm teaching you Pilates or some dance moves? I don't know. Are you pitching me? I don't know about dance moves. Pilates maybe. It could be good. I want to get into the Pilates thing. Okay, well. So that's a yes, but we'll see. It's a proposition. Yeah, more to be revealed later, I suppose. That's so good. The other thing, that I want to say about this is that, um,

1:01:27I mean, it's just broadened my horizons in so many ways, like just the sheer number of people that I've been able to meet and connect with and learn from. It's kept my curiosity alive. It's kept me, um, in this committed relationship with lifelong learning. Like, Oh, you know, you went to college, you went there and then your learning's over. But what would happen if you remained curious and you continue to like explore the things that light you up and you had the opportunity to learn from some of the best people in the world who are experts in these various fields? Like there's no greater thing, you know, like, and I think curiosity, like in this conversation around health span extension and longevity, I think curiosity is a centerpiece to that.

1:02:13Like everybody can argue around the margins around how many hours you should sleep and stuff like that. But if you don't remain curious and nourish your curiosity, you're going to wilt pretty quickly. And this has kept that very much intact for me. And then the second thing is just really feeling connected to the idea that like conversation matters. Like two people talking to each other, not only is it the most fundamental, primal experience between two human beings, it's essentially the only thing that we have to solve any problem that we face. It begins with two people trying to communicate around it.

1:03:00And it's a sacred act. And it should be treated reverently. And we should understand how to do it properly and respectfully with integrity. We should learn how to listen better. And we should curate the people that we share experiences with and really honor the opportunity to sit quietly and presently and have a conversation with another human being. I think it's really important. And we're very cavalier about it. And now because there's too many podcasts out there and we're just saturated with people talking to each other into microphones, it's easy to be dismissive of that. But I do think that it is important to remember that it's not podcasting.

1:03:51It's like sitting across the campfire from another human being and engaging in this lost art of connection that we need in order to feel fully embodied as humans. Yes, beautifully said. I mean, I have to say that all of the podcast conversations that we have had on your show have been hugely amplifying and expansive to our relationship. There's no question. There's no question. Yeah. I would agree with that. And the only thing that we could take from that is to do that off the air more often. I know, but there's something about like, okay, it's scheduled and like there's camera, like it's being recorded.

1:04:38So like you better, you better, you can't like check your phone in the middle of it or anything like that. We do have good conversations. There's something about the restrictions of it, the structure of it, the container that like is conducive for us. It's like, okay, what do we really want to share with each other? That's important. It feels heightened. You know what I mean? It's hard to do that voluntarily without this. that doesn't mean that we shouldn't or that we can't. I'm just saying that it's not surprising to me that some of those conversations have taken place in this dynamic. Well, now what I'll do is I'm going to get a little fake set put together at our house so that when I want to talk to you, we can pretend we're recording a podcast.

1:05:21I don't think we have to go that far. You're like, I'd like to talk to you. Yeah, like I'm not insane. You know, like we don't need to do that. I also just want to mention, you know, of all the years and, um, uh, that we've been in this journey on this journey together. And, you know, without fail, whenever we felt we were without a, without a raft, without a, without a path, without a way to move, we would always receive an email or a handwritten letter or something from somebody who was listening to us and who was listening to the show. And these were even early days when you know it was very unclear what was going to go on what was going to be the the development of the podcast but you know there are some individuals that have walked that have listened to the show from early days from that episode one and we do meet them and it is wild how as humans when we're sharing in this medium we find each other somehow and there are, you know, certain qualities about our choice of life experience or the life experience that we were given together and how that connects with the audience and other people.

1:06:39And, you know, without the audience, the show doesn't exist. And it's been, you know, a privilege, really, really a privilege and a blessing and a gift to us and to you more than me. But I just wanted to mention the beauty of that human experience. Yeah, I mean, it's a very important thing. It sounds very pedestrian to say like, well, you, the audience, you make this thing possible, but it's true. I only get to do this because of all of you out there who have made a decision to trust me with your time and your attention. And that's not a small thing, especially when And there's an infinite number of choices right now for people when it comes to like where they want to place that attention.

1:07:32You know, like there's lots of other people who do this thing or whatever. And the fact that somebody would say, no, I'm going to I'm going to take two hours out of my day when we're already super busy and invest it here. Like that is that is a huge honor that I don't take lightly. And to your point, yes, there are many people who've been with us from the very beginning and are still here. And that's like a remarkable thing that I don't take any of that for granted. And I'm just I'm so honored by that. And it is true. And I've had the great opportunity to meet many of you over the years in my travels.

1:08:09And it's always a positive, nourishing experience for me. And I think it also needs to be said that we owe a great deal of thanks to Greg Anzalone, who very early on became a support to us when we needed that support. and somebody who had a vision for what this could become when that vision exceeded what I thought could be possible. And he has stood by us at every step of the way, supporting us, not just in our time of need, but in our more expansive times to help us continue to grow and to evolve and to even think bigger than I have a tendency to think. And so he's been a remarkable partner in this and just one of the most remarkable people that I've ever met.

1:09:03A person of tremendous heart who is by default service-oriented in the most selfless and giving way. And I feel very blessed to have him as a central figure in this mission that we've been on for a very long time. Yeah. Blessings to Greg and Yvonne and for all they have given to us and our family and support. It's incredible. Beautiful, beautiful humans. In terms of some of the overarching, like generalized lessons from hosting this thing for a very long time, in addition to the fact that conversation does indeed matter, I think it's just taught me that change and transformation is always possible, no matter what.

1:09:54I've sat across from people who have overcome the most dire set of circumstances or conditions and situations in which the deck was stacked so steeply against them and to hear them transcend their circumstances and create a life out of you know, whole cloth in conditions that I wouldn't wish on anybody, like continues to inspire me and has taught me that no matter where you find yourself, that better, more self-actualized person is possible. I believe that truly and deeply to my heart. And so this, this show is really about trying to help people solve that equation for themselves. I mean, we all kind of want something better for ourselves, even in the best case scenario, like how can I be better in this way or better in that way?

1:10:56Oh, I don't think I can, or who cares, or that's never going to happen. And I have seen time and time again, that not only can it happen, it's within everybody's reach. And that doesn't mean you're going to actualize every single dream that you have for yourself, but I think seeing change and transformation as a relationship that you're constantly engaged with and grappling with and having a sense that you're always in a position to actualize more of your potential is something I want to make sure that the audience kind of takes away as a lesson from hosting all these conversations for so many years.

1:11:44Yeah. Absolutely. It's beautiful. And I have changes I still need to make that I'm trying to make because it never ends. Like Phil Stutz says, there are three unavoidables in life, pain, uncertainty, and the need for constant work. And no matter how much I think I'm going to transcend these things one day, I am constantly reminded that I will not. And so I might as well welcome change and the discomfort that change demands of all of us and trudge that road of happy destiny with some gratitude instead of begrudgingly. Absolutely. And I'll add one thing to Phil's list, and that is to have fun, to lighten up.

1:12:32I'm trying to do that. I just mean even humanity. You know, it's like we really need to focus on having fun and finding the joy. It is part of a human expression. And human beings are resilient. They're empathic. They're unique. They're, you know, otherworldly. They're just beautiful. And humanity will find a way. We will find a way together. And we will recreate again and again and again together. and so um have faith and hold the vision and don't waver and now is the time it's not tomorrow and it's not in five years it's right now and so together we can all rise and create this more beautiful world that we all dream of beautifully said well thanks for taking this journey with me makes me want to cry thank you for taking this journey with me it's been a wild one hasn't it crazy do you think there's going to be an episode 2000 i don't know man that's a lot yeah maybe we'll see i'll keep doing it as long as the world will uh keep having me you know but i also i i also you know there's a season for everything also you know what i mean you don't want to be the guy who won't leave the party either.

1:14:04And I'm certainly open and willing to entertain that degree of change in my life as well. I mean, there will come a day where I will no longer do this. Of course. When that day will come, who knows? Could come sooner rather than later. I have no designs on stopping this thing. Like I said, I still love it and I am having more fun doing it than I have in a long time. But you never know. It could be episode 2000 or maybe who knows. Well, I think it'll be the evolution, right? So it'll evolve into something else. Yeah, exactly. But it will still be the seeds of the same as we expand. And I'm very excited to see what you create and share.

1:14:50Well, I appreciate the support that you have given me from day one with respect to this. It wouldn't have been possible without that. And there were, you know, a lot of Sundays, all the Sundays where I had to disappear to like make sure I got to show up. And, you know, I used to be a control freak and I had to do everything. And now I have a team that handles all of that for me that I trust and who are all way more talented than I am. And that's a blessing of the growth over time that has allowed this to happen and has given me the extra bandwidth to not have to sacrifice every Sunday to give me the opportunity to write another book and spend time with you and the kids and the things that are really important in life.

1:15:41And that's a blessing as well. So I guess in conclusion, thank you again to everybody who has taken a flyer on the show and watched an episode. And if this is the first episode of this podcast that you've ever listened to or heard, episode 1000 is a good enough episode as any to jump on board. And I appreciate you being here and again, trusting me with your time and your attention, which I do not take lightly. If you are new, search the archives in the canon. There's plenty of cool stuff there, no matter what you're into. And I'm going to continue to try to push the envelope and find the most interesting people I can and play with the formats.

1:16:25I'm really enjoying these monologue episodes. And, you know, I don't know, maybe we'll do a series with somebody on X, Y, or Z and just holding it a little bit more loosely. So if there's something that you would like to hear me talk about or see me talk about a specific subject matter or any kind of format that is kind of off the beaten map in terms of where you think I could serve all of you, leave a comment below, share all your thoughts. We go through all of those and that's it. Thank Thank you. Episode 1000, quite a milestone. I never would have imagined this would have gotten to this place, but it has.

1:17:08And again, I'm like so grateful and just, and bewildered like so many, it's not, I'm very aware that it's not me, you know, like my name is on this thing, but you know, I'm the beneficiary of luck and circumstances. I'm the beneficiary of getting to work with extremely talented people. There were so many things that have played into this becoming what it has become, very little of which has to do with like me and like, I did it. No, I'm on the receiving end of a lot of grace, luck, and goodwill on behalf of many, many people. Congratulations. still even still all right well thanks for celebrating with me julie i love you babe all right congrats you love you 1000 what namaste should we make another little teaser video oh my god sounds good very good plant power all right thanks

1:18:26Thank you.