Aimee Lou Wood Reflects On White Lotus Ahead of the Finale

0:28You're listening to The Run Through. Next week is the finale. And I really have no idea who's going to be murdered. We actually started a, like, a staff Google Sheets for people to air their theories. And they're very varied. And I really appreciate that. I even asked Carrie McDermott, British Vogue's website editor, what her thoughts were. And she brought up a new one, which was that she thinks Lisa is going to kill someone. That's a surprise twist, which I like. Wow.

1:02Choma is White Lotus Mania taking over the British Vogue office or are you guys less invested I think it has I I'm trying to stay away from people talking about it because I'm really behind on my episodes oh interesting um so don't reveal too much I kind of need to catch I need to like spend a weekend catching up I actually have been going to the theater a lot this week. I've been to the theater twice. Oh my god, what have you seen? I went to see The Seagull. How was that? It was amazing. It was kind of like a reminder that like, yeah, why theater is so amazing? Oh, I'd love to hear that. I love British Vogue's feature on the cast.

1:47I thought the shoot was so great. Yeah, such an amazing cast. I mean, Kate, the sort of exquisite Cate Blanchett, Emma Corrin's in it, Cody Fitzmaid. It's just got an incredible cast. But beyond that, it's just a wonderful piece of theatre. The original is obviously the Chekhov, but it's really well adapted. I have not seen another staging of the play, but my mother saw it years ago and she was sort of talking about it. And it was just so amazing how they seamlessly updated the script. to make it fit for modern times. So anybody who's a creative person can relate to the themes and there are sort of bigger universal themes that sort of connect to now that feel...

2:36It just felt like really urgent and I think that's so important. What was the second thing you saw? I saw a play called The Years, which is getting a lot of attention here. It has a reputation, a kind of controversial reputation, but I thought it was a really powerful piece of theatre too. So I've had two quite intense theater experiences this week. I'm feeling very proud of myself. I'm feeling very cultured. You're so cultured, Choma. I'm feeling so cultured and smart, and I've got stuff to talk about. What are you reading, Choma? Expand how cultured you are. Yeah, I am reading. It's actually not a new book, but it's a writer I've heard about for a long time and that we've recently profiled called Sabah Sams.

3:21She's an amazing young writer and she wrote this. I love short stories. I've always been into short stories. And she has a collection of short stories called Send Nudes. That's amazing. And that was originally, that was kind of like her, it's not a new book. So, but she has a new book coming out. But I wanted to kind of read her first book first. And it's so good. It's so fresh. and yeah, I just kind of, I'm not someone who is good at finding time to read either. I know you're so, you have a reading practice. No, it's so hard. No, but you have a reading practice. I mean, you read before bedtime, which I should do.

4:03But yeah, my new bedtime ritual is kind of nuts. You're going to really, I tell you my bedtime. Oh my God, okay, tell us the bedtime ritual. I have a new bedtime ritual. ritual. I had someone who recommended this device. It's another kind of like, I have two devices I'm using at night. And one is called a Sensate. It kind of helps to ease your anxiety and it gets you into a meditative state before you sleep and you put it on your chest and it vibrates. And then I also am using a PEMF mat with infrared heat. So I'm doing it all at the same time and it's meant to help with your inflammation it's like higher dose have it and anyway i've been sort of trying out and yeah that's my new bedtime ritual it's insane i feel like i'm like like one of those like biohacking bro health bros but that's me yeah i have to say why lotus does not help my sleep regimen, my sleep hygiene, because it's on at 9 p.m.

5:12And I usually like to be winding down around 930 and I'm amped up by the end of White Lotus. Speaking of White Lotus, we are very excited to have Amy LeWood on the show today. She stars as Chelsea. She's so heavenly. I'm so excited that we're talking to her. Yeah, me too. She was also Amy Gibbs in Sex Education. Hannah Jackson, our fashion writer, and I had a lot of questions about the latest episode of White Lotus and speculating what might happen in the finale. And so Amy is, like her character, very enlightened and enlightening. So stay tuned for that. But first, I want to hear more, Choma, about what is going on in the UK this week.

5:57Well, I mean, did we talk about the vintage? Oh, yeah. How was your vintage sale? We talked about our vintage sale with Lila and Margo on Monday morning. And it was fab. We had a really – everyone had such a good time. It was such great vibes. Everyone was, like, standing in line around the block. I got a Dries blazer that looks like the White Lotus credits. No way. It's like this, like, moody lotus print chintz. But, yeah, yours just from social looked fantastic and really fun and cool. Yeah, I feel like we should be doing more of these. I see more of these in Vogue's future. I felt like it was kind of like what I do in my downtime anyway.

6:37So it didn't feel, not that events ever feel like work, but it felt even more kind of like deep in on the obsessions that I already, you know, that I'm late night. I'm usually late night scrolling on. I've stopped doing that now because obviously I'm lying on a mat. That's not good for your sensate. I know, I'm listening to gongs and have a sensate vibration. is not letting you scroll.

7:02But it was really fun. I got a ton of things. Oh my God, you did? Of course I did because I'm like a vintage nerd. I got like this 1997 Miu Miu cardigan which is absolutely adorable which I wore the exact next day and got lots of compliments about. So I was very happy with that. I got like a very iconic Phoebe Philo era Chloe top with the bananas across the boobs that is quite fun and is very collectible. So I was very happy with that. I got this Vivienne Westwood. I'm very into Westwood at the moment, as you know. And I got this lovely black and white, very graphic Vivienne Westwood kind of button up Boussier blouse top that I'm excited for.

7:53Oh, and I got this Martine Rose beer mat top, which I have the hoodie, but I've always wanted the zip up top. So like, yeah, there you go. It's just me being complete, like overdoing it on the vintage sale. But it was well worth it. And I loved it. So, yeah, it was a really good time. I mean, what else is going on in the world? I am watching White Lotus. I'm watching Deli Boys. I'm watching. There's a new Agatha Christie coming out with Angelica Houston that is something called like Toward Zero that I'm very excited about. It's extremely up my alley. and it is also the 250th anniversary of is it Jane Austen's death or of her birth yes I went to oh fun fact so I went to I went and you know who references the queen because I went last week I forgot to mention that I went to Clarence House I love when Choma casually like drops that she's been to palaces.

9:06Yeah, and it was super cool. It was a really cool crowd. And it's for this charity that the Queen established called The Reading Room, which is all about encouraging literacy and getting people to read. And, you know, when you hear about the stats and exactly what reading can do for your mental health and how little people now read because obviously we're sort of in this digital age and inundated and, you know, our attention spans are so small. But she's really doing, Her Majesty is doing a lot to really boost that. And it was, she gave such a fantastic speech. And she mentioned a Jane Austen and then she had all these artifacts.

9:51She had like the first, I think it was like the first Pride and Prejudice that whoever was a monarch at the time requested an advanced copy of Pride and Prejudice, and she had it there on display so we could all see it. That's so fun. Yeah, yeah. It's like getting an advanced copy of Harry Potter in the Dead Boys product. Yeah, and it was so cool. And there were all of these, like, Jane Austen artifacts on display in Clarence's house, and it was a real treat to meet her, to meet the Queen, which I did. and briefly, it wasn't the first time I've met her, but I met her again. And she was lovely and an excellent host.

10:33We also did a piece about how one of the hot trends for the spring are Jane Austen bangs, which I thought was very funny. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. I mean, they're also kind of like the micro, they're kind of like micro curl curly bangs. Yeah, exactly. There's been a lot, it sort of feels like, I think we talked about this a little last week, But it does feel like there's sort of, you know, spring culture preview in the air in New York as it gets warmer. The Frick has its grand reopening in a couple of weeks. And last night or two nights ago, they had their big reopening gala, which for the first time had dinner in the Fragonard room, which is a big deal for very few people.

11:15OK. Oh, I do have I do have something I'm excited about this week, actually, that's news related. I don't know if you looked at the LVMH Prize finalists, but there are so many great British designers on there that I'm excited about. Steve O. Smith, who's from the UK, who's fantastic. Tolu Koka, who is one of my favorites and did one of the best presentations during London Fashion Week. and Tori Sheiju who we've talked about on this podcast because she designed Zendaya War, some of her looks on the red carpet during her Dune tour. And so it was really, really cool to see like three amazing names on that list.

11:58So we'll see when the shortlisted names will be announced, I guess on September 3rd. So yeah, like I'm here for the Brits. I hope my guys get through to that final round. I'm excited. Oh, yeah. Wait, Choma, I want to talk about, are people in the UK obsessed with the Beatles cast that was announced? Yes, they are. For the four films that are coming out in 2028? Yeah, they are totally obsessed. Are you kidding me? It's Paul Meskel as Paul McCartney, Barry Keoghan as Ringo, Harris Dickinson as John Lennon, Joseph Quinn from Gladiator as George Harrison. Can we just pause to appreciate Harris Dickinson as John Lennon?

12:41It's crazy. I feel like it was Maya who said that it's almost like they took like pop culture AI and was like, who are the four people that the Internet is thirstiest for? And let's put them in a laugh. It is crazy. It is crazy. And now we're thinking about who are going to be the Beatles women. Anna Cofola is working on a dream casting piece on that. Amy Lou Wood is being rumored for Patty Boyd. And some people are saying that Anna Sawai would be great as Yoko Ono. That's a good shout.

13:22Okay, we will be back and digging into all things White Lotus with Amy Lou Wood in just a moment.

14:23And we're back with me and Hannah's conversation with Amy LeWood, or Chelsea, herself. Amy, we are so excited to have you here because I have to say we've reached peak lotus fever, which sounds like a venereal disease. It seems appropriate. but really our office and i was saying to choma um my coast before this that i feel like it's so rare that there's a group experience where everyone's watching in real time because everything's streaming now and where the stakes are so high and people really don't we don't know who's gonna die do you know what it's so lovely i way prefer it i prefer this format i prefer the cathartic collective yeah we're all doing it at the same time because actually i'd seen six up to six but i haven't seen seven or eight no so i am now watching it with everyone oh my god and so it feels really special and it feels a lot less anxiety inducing than the binge because doing sex education and that being like it's all dropped at once and every every tv show i've done has been dropped at once and everyone's at different points of the story and everyone's it whereas this time it's like you have a week to talk to people about that specific episode and like debrief and hear everyone's theories and it feels just so I'm a I'm an Aquarius so I love being part of the collective yeah and it feels really soothing it's fantastic yeah I have to say I find it a very it's it's also it's a fun office experience we did we pulled uh our colleagues for their theories of who gets killed I have to say the most people I've talked do think that chelsea is getting killed do so she goes do that do they do they very concerned um but yeah the theories have abounded i am so desperate for it to just be out i got sent the scripts so i have known the whole story when i was 29 years old i'm now 31 you've been carrying i have been carrying the weight of these secrets for so long And I just need everyone to know now.

16:36I just need it to be a part of the collective. I just have to. I'm desperate. I actually cannot wait until Sunday for this exact reason. You're so close. I'm so close. Your character has such great facial expressions on the show. And I feel like we all love them. And they get so much chatter online. Evan Moss Katz loves them. I love Evan. I love Evan. Always in the roundup. Do you have a poker face yourself? We've been carrying this for two years. I must do on some level, but I don't think I, I mean, I, I, my face, I just, I saw these women in an elevator yesterday and I'm saying elevator because I'm American now because I've been here for a week.

17:16But when I say lift, people think I mean lift as in like taxi. But in the elevator, it was these women who do Botox. We were talking about how it's obvious I haven't had it because of how expressive my head is and my eyebrows. I think that's a real concern for actors. The two of us interviewed Chloe Fineman from SNL, and she does a very famous Melania Trump impersonation. Yes, I love it. And she got Botox on just on her chin because she wanted to make sure her forehead was still movable. But they did it slightly uneven, so she couldn't do the whole Melania face. It really affected such a real career move.

17:54Yeah, I'm really not. I'm like very anti-Botox, not as in like just people can do whatever the hell they want, but for myself. because you know a lot of my career relies on these facial expressions as Evan has confirmed you know so I can't start freezing my face it needs to move but sometimes it moves too much and I it is weird sometimes I watch things back and I go Jesus what was I I didn't know I wasn't aware that I was using my face that much in that moment I actually thought I was being quite like I remember getting like trying to do the whole still, you know, because a lot of people are very, they do that very still acting and everything's kind of mumbled and everything's kind of like still and they look really like hot and cool.

18:39That's not Chelsea's cake. And I'm just like, like my face just. So I don't think I'll ever play a part that has a poker face because I can't do it. Even when I think I'm doing it, I'm not doing it. Do you play poker? I don't play poker. But I wish I did. I know, me too. Seems so difficult. And it seems so cool. It does seem cool. It does seem cool and difficult. Leslie Bibb's best friend, who is one of the coolest women I've ever met, she used to have an all-women poker game that she did in New York City. Yeah, and I feel like there should be a TV show about it. How chic? Should we shoot that?

19:13Honestly, I feel like there should be a TV show. Every week, every episode would be a different poker player about a different one of the women. Yeah. Okay, well, you heard it here first. Yeah. Amy makes her poker debut. debut and poker debut yeah yeah i want to hear about being on set as you were saying with leslie and her best friend it did it feel like everyone was sort of on vacation together did were you all hanging out afterward it felt i think everyone thought it was going to feel a bit more like a vacation and then it turns out we were working a lot and we're living on the set which is very unusual you don't live on no it was there was none it was the truman show and i think it felt more like the time that we spent together and the debriefs and the drinks and that it was so beautiful and gorgeous but it felt less vacation and more like family it felt like a kind of dysfunctional glorious family it was very we needed each other we really needed each other and did people bring their families their friends their partners yes and that was massively helpful so like when pete michelle's husband came with their kids and they stayed for a long time that was really lovely because they brought the outside world in with them and actually gave us some context and we were all kind of in this bubble and then they were there and it was very soothing and any time a kind of partner came or a family it just kind of brought the real world into this bubble in a very helpful way and also sam which was a big secret but now it's not a secret you know sam and leslie sam rockwell who comes in in episode five i think yeah it was very lovely when he got there because leslie and i had been were really really really close and then And I mean, we still speak every day.

21:09And we were, yeah, we were just hanging out the whole time. She's Scorpio's son. I'm Scorpio Moon. We're very much bonded. But then it was so lovely because when Sam got there, she became even more Leslie. Like, it was like I got an extra layer that came when Sam got there because they're just the best couple. So that kind of towards the end when he got there and we were all in Bangkok and we were in a city and we were kind of in the world. Did you film in Bangkok too? Yeah. So all the kind of intimate scenes were filmed in a studio. Oh, interesting. So they kind of rebuilt the villa rooms and we did them in a studio in Bangkok.

21:47Oh, wow. So we ended it there and it felt like the right place to end it because it was a city and we could go, you know, we could be in the world. You know, you talking about living in this bubble and the resort honestly makes me think of like The Bachelor a little bit. Yeah. But, you know, you say that you and the cast needed each other. Can you talk a little bit about the challenges of being in that environment and how you leaned on each other? Well, Mike loves reality TV. So, I mean, he loves it. He's been on Survivor, The Amazing Race. Like, he loves it. And I love Mike because I think so much of his genius is down to the fact that he's not a snob.

22:24He will take references from Greek tragedy, but also Survivor, you know? so it's a it's a real mix and he's got such a range of references and interests and passions and he just likes what he likes and he uses all of it and he just channels all of it into these scripts and he barely takes any time to write them because he's just such a vessel for this whatever the hell's going he's just stream of consciousness and it's there and there's so many amazing clever details but also he loves reality tv and so it felt a bit like that yeah we were kind of in a bit of a reality tv show and there's fun and mischief and it's very mike is very playful and mischievous and childlike curiosity and but the flip side of it is the work-life balance is that you you are it would be like night everyone i walk two steps and that's my house like there's so many amazing parts of living in a beautiful hotel but it becomes your whole world most of the places that we were in it was only cast and crews the only people that you're seeing are each other you can't cook you get a lot of your self-esteem from doing things that are mundane so doing your own laundry folding it putting it away making some food walking to the grocery shop buying the groceries like that's how you feel like a human so then when you're everything's being done for you your self-esteem actually takes a bit of a hit actors are already quite infantilized like you can't even go to the loo without it being like someone coming with you and standing outside the door oh my god so it's already when you're on set it's already like everyone knows my every move yeah but the release of that is at the end of the day you're like goodbye and you get driven and you're in your own space right and you can kind of decompress that was not happening here everyone knew what villa we were in it feels like you're being and watch the whole time like a reality tv show so it did start to feel a bit mad a bit nuts how long was it seven months seven wow that is unbelievable all of us living together for seven months i feel like i feel like good already but like yeah and it already does like jobs like hours where our work is like our whole life already pretty much so then you add on no it actually is because you're never going home you're never just leaving set so yeah we needed a lot of we needed to create home within each other yeah because we couldn't that's a nice way yeah yeah i think it's so lovely the way you talk about your your colleagues and now friends um and we we heard a bit obviously you've talked about your bond with leslie and your your scorpio bond we heard Walton Goggins was also involved in your Scorpio.

25:14Chloe and I are both Scorpio sons. That's true. It's very exciting. So we're very excited. I wore my necklace today. I love, oh my God, I love Scorpios. She's so horrified. We have so many in this office. Do you know what's really interesting is that, so Parker's a Scorpio, Walton's a Scorpio, Leslie's a Scorpio, and I just, I just love Scorpios. But then I also had this astrology reading, and I am basically Chelsea, who just looks for meaning in, astrology, Enneagram, all of that stuff. I'm like, tell me who I am. And then I had this Zoom with this amazing astrologer and she said, what's really interesting is where you are as well.

25:52The astrocartography of the place is scorpionic. So the locations we were in had heavy Scorpio energy. The cast had heavy Scorpio energy. So she was at as a Scorpio moon, you are very much underwater right now you are in the kind of plutonic rebirth death scorpio vibe and you need to like use your aquarius to like go to the air take a step back look at the macro look at the bigger picture and then you need to use your taurus rising to go and stand on a beach and just feel your feet on the earth nice that you have that to ground yourself yes so it was very it was very very very Scorpio which is my in many ways my comfort zone but also you know Patrick was so great because he's a Virgo and he would just come in there with the just earthy you know be like what have you been doing in your room Amy and I'd be like I've just been having so many epiphanies about life and you know and the and the connections and the patterns and the this and the that and he'd be like why and I'd be like because it's and I didn't really know what you're doing with them maybe you should take all those theories out for a walk should we go for a walk and I was like okay and he's like maybe you should eat something and I'd be like oh yeah I should probably eat something so it was he the one who called you the fox so everyone kind so Charlotte started that Charlotte Le Bon who is also a Virgo she started she was like little fox little fox because everyone's like she's just a little fox because I would come out get scraps and go back and we played this psychology game where we have you have to say like your three favorite animals and the big reveal is your first choice is how you want to be seen the second is how you are actually seen and the third is who you really are i just played this at dinner with my friends a few weeks ago it's such a good game obviously i've ruined it now because i've told what the spoiler is but walton and i both put foxes as our last animal so here we really are soulmate yeah you have to first is who you want to be how you want second is how you are actually seen so it's how you want to be seen how you're actually seen and then how you really are okay what was your first and second so my first so we have to put you have to say the animal and then the three reasons why so for it so i've got everyone's by the way on my phone i've got every person in the cast's animal Do you think they like really were accurate?

28:21Every single one was so accurate. Like Michelle's last, like her third one was Koala. It was sleepy, a great mom and chill. And that is exactly, it was so funny because she was napping. She loves a kid so much. She is an amazing mom and she's the biggest chiller. She's just the most. So everyone's was just weirdly accurate. But I think that my first, I think how I wanted to be seen was, I think I put a monkey, like cheeky, playful. And then how I was actually seen was a dog, loyal, friendly, and something loving or something. And then who I actually was was a fox, which was like survivor, cute, loyal.

29:06Interesting. It's a good game. So were you the instigator? Oh, yeah. Okay. Always. The psychology games and things like that was always me.

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30:03Was anyone on set a method actor who made it hard to relax with? I think that we all became a little accidentally method. It wasn't even on purpose. It was just that there is no escape. So like there were nights where we would be out for dinner and people would be saying lines verbatim from the show and they didn't even know they were doing it. And it would be like, whoa, your character says that. so I think I was accidentally method because like Mia who was doing my hair halfway through was like baby you need to go home because I don't know if I'm talking to Chelsea or Amy and I was like I don't know who I am so because also we're all expressing different facets of Mike so it becomes a bit like it does get a bit intense but I think you know Walton was very there was a lot of personal mirroring going on between Rick and his story and to do with Thailand and the place and it wasn't that he was particularly I'm not ever going to not be Rick but there was a energy that he remained in not even on purpose but you know he was in a very Rick place I was then kind of like naturally pushed into quite a Chelsea place because Chelsea's the one that's like come on come on come on and there was a lot of times where Walton would kind of you know walk off and it would be very leave Mr.

31:20Goggins to do his thing and I would just come over and be like, Oi, Oi, need to talk to you. And he was saying today that he was thankful for that because it was like, thanks for calling my bluff because I don't really want to stand over here being the lone wolf. In the same way that Rick doesn't really want to stand over there. And he's actually just very soft and sweet. But yeah, I think that everyone just kind of, apart from Patrick, like Patrick is so not Saxon, but everyone else has got some kind of essential tie tie to their character not the behavior necessarily because we've not had the same lives as them but the essence everyone's essence is pretty similar to their character interesting apart from patrick he's nothing like saxon as we've heard recently i know there was a great headline yesterday that was like maria shriver says her son is nothing like saxon which is like such a mom sort of entering the chat but it's true and i think it's really it is funny because all of us are so essentially similar apart from him that and also saxon has been getting so much shit that i think it is like just know that patrick is not saxon you have to know i find one of the most endearing qualities of chelsea is how forgiving she is i wonder if you think her endless forgiveness for rick is a power or her weakness so interesting that you asked me that because i've been thinking a lot about this and she taught me so much playing her about where I can trip up in life and it was very illuminating and helpful because the points where she started to really annoy me and I never judged my character because that's like the death of the performance and all that but there would be moments where naturally I would be like Chelsea like something in my gut would be like Chelsea and it taught me a lot about myself and I think that there's this stubborn belief in fate and that things are predetermined and they're written and actually whilst that can be magical and whatever it also can be quite disempowering because it means that she's saying that she doesn't have choice that she doesn't have free will and that's where she and rick are really similar is they're both gone into like he's kind of saying i don't have a choice here this guy robbed me of my life and now i have to seek revenge because i don't have a choice yeah and chelsea's like yes you do you could be here with me that could be a choice but then at the same time she's going i don't have a choice rick's my soulmate there's nothing i can do about it it's me and him it's the universe the universe has spoken it's decided so both of them are quite similar and they are two sides of the coin and both of them have prescribed to this notion that they don't have choice that their lives have been written for them and so i think that chelsea's is a more likable version of that so people like look how selfless she is yeah how but actually she's a great deflector like she's always going rick is so mysterious you're so secretive we don't know anything about chelsea she's so mysterious so she like puts all of her attention on him as a way to not be seen and actually i think that a lot of anxious attached people are avoidance because they go for avoidant people so that they don't have to be seen and intimacy is into me see and she's with someone who she knows is unable at this point in his life to fully see her and that might suit her in a way what's weird about saxon and chelsea is that Saxon really likes being seen by her even if it's brutal yeah and she's like you're soulless and you should change everything about yourself he's like give it to me give it to me and actually I think that moment on the bed where she kind of hits him away is because he is weirdly in his own way seeing her yeah and I think that she likes to be the seer and not the scene so I've been getting a lot of like people may be like why is Chelsea with Rick like he's so mean to her and I'm going there's secondary gain from this she gets to not really think about herself and her responsibility to herself and just go hell for leather on this life mission in the same way that he's very blocked about his life mission like it's yeah they're both doing the same thing but hers is more romantic and girly and so everyone prefers that version but i think they are quite similar in the way that they have gone, I don't have a choice or a say in any of this.

35:55Well, you do. You've got free will, both of you. So I think it's both a blessing and a curse. To me, I have to say, one of my favorite scenes so far has been Chelsea turning away Saxon's advances with a stack of meditation books. I thought that's one of the best no thank yous that any young woman has ever instituted. What was it like filming that scene was that was my last ever scene wow that was the last scene i filmed the first scene that i filmed was with patrick so the first one that we did was how do i get a drink around here you go up to the bar and you order one and the last one was that the saxon and chelsea so it was very emotional actually and it felt very emotional that we started it together and we ended it together but that image sums up chelsea it's like no don't look at me look at these books instead look at these quotes instead look at star signs instead like she does push people away with the thing that is seemingly intimate yeah that she's she's gnarly like there's stuff going on but i think that doing that last scene it felt like the perfect send-off for chelsea because it felt like so her and it was really emotional and mike and i miss everyone now are there multiple group chats for the cast?

37:18There are lots of group chats. I still speak to Leslie every day. I speak to Michelle loads and loads. I speak to everyone still. We're still very bonded. It was hard because I went back to England. Most people were either in New York or LA. So there's been a lot of like hanging out that has occurred without me. No, FOMO. And I have had quite bad FOMO. And Patrick's really good at being like, I'm here with everyone. We miss you. But it felt sad and scary as much as I wanted to get home I remember doing that scene I'm like this is the last one and I'm so desperate to get home and see my friends and and be in my flat and be in London but I'm also terrified of leaving these friends and this family and also going back into the real world because I've essentially been a sim I've been a sim for seven months and I feel like someone else has been going pick up drink go to walk to the beach go for how was re-entry yeah how do you hard all of us found it hard like it was actually great because michelle came to do a job in london and so we went out for dinner and she was kind of like i hadn't seen anyone in so long and i was finding it really hard to get back into my life and then i saw michelle and she was like oh same and then it i saw natasha and she was like same and then you just realize that everyone's going through the same thing and the more we spoke about it the better it was and then actually michelle and i had dinner and we were going what is going on this is so feels so heavy and so weird and then as soon as the first episode dropped we were like do you feel like a different person she was like i feel like reborn because now it belongs to them or it belongs to all of us rather than us and it felt like it's no longer our thing and actually a weight lifted it was like oh it's it's the world's now yeah so it doesn't feel as heavy but it was very hard re-entering what was the most challenging part for you of re-entering your world i think it was being away from the people because it was this weird thing where like i was homesick there and then i was homesick when I got home so it was like the homesickness was unavoidable it was weird it was like even I got homesick the other week for Bangkok I was like oh my god I want to go home and then I was like wait what home that isn't home London's home and and then you start to go well actually nowhere's home it's you like home is inside us so you create it wherever you go you are going to miss times of your life and you're going to miss places and you're going to I miss people basically constantly.

39:59And that is like a sad truth of life is that you're probably going to feel homesick always. And you just have to find home in yourself. But yeah, there's been a lot of Wizard of Oz feelings going on. I'm sure. I want Oz back. But I also don't want to be in Oz because Oz isn't real. Kansas is real. Did you bring any of the great outfits back to Kansas? I didn't bring anything. You didn't say anything? I didn't even bring any rubies slippers. The coconut bikini? No. We are big fans of that coconut bikini. Everyone loved that. And it was so, Alex was so happy that I loved it, costume designer, because she was like, I know you're probably not going to want to wear this in a million years.

40:42I said, give it to me now. I am wearing that coconut bra. And then everyone loved it. It was major. I didn't have, I don't have any Chelsea things. Did you take any, any souvenirs from set? The thing that was on my chair that said Chelsea. so I've got that I made photo albums for me, Leslie and Walton so we all have photo albums so I've got that but yeah I kind of didn't it's such a good point I've not even thought about the fact I don't have any Chelsea items we're all about lifting yeah but I don't got some sticky fingers but it's not like me to do that because on another job that I do called Daddy Issues I just wrapped on it and I took all of Gemma's clothes I was like I'm taking all of it and the costume designer was like yeah I have it all my god and I loved it And I always take stuff.

41:25But weirdly, with Chelsea, I just left. Chelsea's wardrobe is tough to wear in London. Yeah, you can't do the COVID bra on many occasions. I think what I want is like the necklace, the iconic Chelsea necklace, the stay gold one. I hated the parrot skirt. People liked it, but I hated it because it was so hot. Even the Thai crew were like, this is hot. Oh, wow. They were like, this is weirdly hot. You got the approval. yeah they were like this is really really hot and so wearing like that fabric long skirt was just oh it was not attractive it was like i need air on me but some of it was my clothes as well so the pink nighty that i wear so cute that's mine all right so i brought that with me but i'll tell you what i love the most the black dress with the sequins on it oh my god that was So good.