In short
The episode follows Vogue’s Vintage Market in Manhattan and then shifts to Emma Chamberlain’s interview about vintage shopping and fashion-week culture. Guests include Arden Fanning-Andrews (Vogue beauty editor at large), Alex John Burns (Run Through producer), Irene Kim (Vogue Runway production/editorial associate), plus multiple market shoppers and industry figures: Emily Bodie (iconic shopper), Paloma (donated items to the market), Nicole Phelps (Global Fashion Futures Director/runway expert), and Margo Ambuba (Vogue senior beauty/wellness editor) and Christian Allaire (Vogue senior fashion writer).
Key claims
Emma shops on eBay by using specific wardrobe gaps and letting algorithms guide her; she purged her closet for quality over quantity; she borrows outfits for events via stylist Jared Elner; and she treats Fashion Week as a novelty hobby, not a necessity.
Notable examples
Emma’s full vintage outfit sourced from eBay; her vintage Jean-Paul Gaultier maroon top with pockets/glove-like cuffs; and her “nobody cares that you went to Fashion Week” framing.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJourney to Vintage Sale
0:45 to 3:00
Alex John Burns shares his experience heading to the Vogue Vintage Market.
“and I just got out of Canal Street, and I am walking to the Vintage Sale.”
In-Line Conversations at Vintage Market
3:00 to 5:00
Interviews with people in line for the sale about their vintage shopping interests.
“Hi, it's Irene Kim, and I'm the production and editorial associate of Vogue Runway.”
VIP Breakfast Insights
5:00 to 8:00
Irene Kim provides a glimpse of the VIP breakfast event at the market.
“And, you know, I'm a Dries fan, so you and I know there's some good Dries here, too.”
Coveted Items at the Market
8:00 to 10:30
Guests discuss their desired vintage items and notable finds.
“So I bought a Doja Cat catch-puller jacket, which is very cool.”
Fashion Experts Share Their Picks
10:30 to 13:00
Nicole Phelps and others share insights on the best items at the market.
“Boots are also not comfortable and they're vintage.”
Emma Chamberlain Joins the Discussion
13:00 to 14:03
Introduction of Emma Chamberlain and her thoughts on vintage fashion.
“where I had an overwhelming collection of clothing where I couldn't utilize everything.”
Quality Over Quantity in Fashion
14:03 to 15:00
Emma Chamberlain discusses her approach to sustainable fashion and personal style choices.
“I'm like that lifestyle, that way of consuming for my own well-being.”
Embracing Fashion Week
15:00 to 17:20
Emma shares her experiences and evolution in attending Fashion Week shows.
“So for me, I think it's weird, like my personal style versus like my style with Jared and what we wear for more editorial moments or events.”
The Duality of Fashion Experiences
17:20 to 20:00
Emma reflects on the complexities and joys of attending Fashion Week and her personal motivations.
“But I have to say, we just did a lot of talking about Fashion Week.”
First Fashion Memories
20:00 to 21:40
Emma and the host reminiscing about their earliest fashion memories and experiences.
“So I think it was about sharing it with ideally as much as I could.”
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Vintage Shopping Adventures
21:40 to 24:00
Emma shares her favorite vintage shopping spots and philosophy on finding unique pieces.
“And I made sure to wear them as much as possible, even when it was sort of inappropriate for the setting that I was in.”
The Cleanliness Debate in Vintage Fashion
24:00 to 25:50
Hosts discuss their hygiene practices when wearing vintage clothing, highlighting differing perspectives.
“I'm dry cleaning sorry wait no you go first you go first I like, it's known around the office, which is weird.”
Favorite Vintage Finds
25:50 to 28:00
Emma describes her favorite vintage piece and the excitement of discovering unique fashion items.
“However, there was like a rumor for many, for the first like five years of my career that I was a grimy girl.”
Vintage Shopping Philosophy
28:00 to 29:13
Emma discusses her approach to vintage shopping, both online and in-person.
“And then, like, I'm leaving it open to the vintage gods also.”
Preparing for the Met Gala
29:51 to 30:59
Emma shares insights on getting ready for the Met Gala and her invitation process.
“I don't know what we are and are not allowed to say, but if you were going to attend the Met, would you have already picked your outfit out?”
Interview Dynamics on the Red Carpet
31:00 to 32:39
Discussion about the pressures and strategies of interviewing celebrities at high-profile events.
“that I've ever been able to do it and I am, like, if I get kicked out and I never get to go to another Met, the fact that I got to go to, what, this will be like my, Yeah, what is it?”
Creating Viral Moments
32:40 to 34:19
Emma reflects on what makes moments go viral during celebrity interactions.
“And you all can hold me accountable and say, Emma, you did not lock in.”
Health and Wellness Routines
34:20 to 36:08
Emma describes her health habits leading up to big events, including skincare and exercise.
“I swear, every viral moment I've had, there haven't been that many, but every moment, it's been completely unpredictable.”
Acting Debut Experience
36:09 to 38:28
Emma shares her experience of acting in 'Forbidden Fruit' and the challenges of a kissing scene.
“That's like something that's coming with the rotation the last year and a half.”
Navigating Career Transitions
38:29 to 40:23
Emma discusses her current career phase and how she is exploring new opportunities.
“But then I showed up and the dude I shot it with, he was so cool and we just like, we're like, let's just have fun with it.”
Vintage This or That Game
40:24 to 40:44
Emma participates in a fun game discussing preferences in vintage items.
Cultural Diet and Internet Habits
40:45 to 42:01
Emma shares her current favorites in culture, music, and her internet habits.
“keep my answer short or do you want me to elaborate no you can elaborate a little bit okay a little I elaborate too much Roll in a petite elaboration.”
Cultural Diet and Favorite Songs
42:01 to 43:44
Discover what Emma Chamberlain is currently enjoying in music and media.
“Two of the most luxurious brands in the world.”
Vintage Shopping Trends and Insights
44:27 to 45:39
Emma shares her thoughts on current vintage shopping trends and personal finds.
“is so that I can make room to start shopping the trends that I saw at Paris Fashion Week.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This episode of The Run Through is brought to you by eBay. Hi, y 'all. It's Arden Fanning-Andrews, Vogue's beauty editor at large, and I'm back to talk about one of my favorite topics, eBay. At long last, I have become a seller. All of my years of shopping on eBay have shown me what to do now. Like, what information do I want to know? What do I want to see? I don't believe in hoarding luxury. You have to share it, and that's why I'm shopping and selling on eBay.
0:30Close the door, please.
0:39Good morning. It's Alex John Burns, a producer on the Run Through Podcast, and I just got out of Canal Street, and I am walking to the Vintage Sale. It is a beautiful sunny day here in Manhattan. Um, kind of cold, but I'm about to see perhaps the big line of people waiting to get into Vogue's Vintage Market today. Okay, I'm approaching. It looks like there's a line. I'm getting here now. Hello. Hello. Good morning. Thank you. It's windy and cold outside. There is a really long line down the block of, what is this, Mercer Street, with people waiting to get into the sale, pretty much as far as I can see.
1:40You are at, like, the front of the line, right? Yes. When did you get here? Literally just now. I use the same old line, dudes. It's a company in New York for line standards. and I heard about from a friend last year, and she used it, and she loved it, and it's a way to save time. So how does it work? So you just pay ahead to one of the people that are in charge of the company, and then they send someone here to stand in line for you. Okay, so you're standing in line right now. When did you get here? We got here at 8.45 a.m. Okay, committed. Yes, very committed. We had to be here. Okay, and what are you looking for today?
2:23I'm looking for brooches, because I think men need to bring brooches in. And I'm also looking for great, like, bomber jackets. I'm thinking, like, maybe, like, a Mandarin jacket or also, like, these Napoleon jackets. I think those are really interesting. So I'd love one of those if I could find it. I am looking for jewelry. Some of the jewelry that I got last year has just completed so many different looks and outfits. Okay, amazing. And you guys all got here together? We met, yeah, we met in line. Making besties in line is probably the best part of this. It does. This line brings people together.
2:57It's so fun to talk to people. It's so beautiful. Well, happy shopping. Good luck in there. And thank you for talking to me. Of course.
3:10Hi, it's Irene Kim, and I'm the production and editorial associate of Vogue Runway. Can you tell me a little bit about what is going on in here right now? Right now it's 10.30 and we are here at the VIP breakfast where Friends of Vogue, stylists, influencers, celebrities get a first look at what we're selling today. And it's very crazy in here. We see everyone. We see, you know, Anna, Wintour, Adam by Dolly, and the entire Arc Digest team. We have Jojo coming down the stairs. Okay. Hi. Chloe, what item are you most excited to buy? Well, Doja just told me that she has her eyes on the two hands interlocking cape belt.
3:54And now I'm like, well, now that she wants that, I want that. That's what I don't know what I'm going to do. It's going to be a Doja cotton, holy mouth showdown. I know. I mean, to be honest, when I did a little pre-trial downstairs at One World Trade Center, I was very into all of the very small coats that belonged to one very small person. But they did not fit me. And it was very sad. Have you had a chance to look around today at the vintage outfit? Yes, I saw an incredible jean dress. My mom is a denim queen. Every outfit she wears has some type of denim on it, and I'm like, I need to figure out a way to get that dress.
4:35What is the most covetable item at this market? Hard to say, but I will say there's a quad a look from the fairy collection that would have to be right up there. There's an amazing Gucci kimono from Gucci at Sokotan Board, I believe. It's amazing. There's other very good Prada. There's some amazing Chanel, which everyone's yapping about. So that has to be probably... And, you know, I'm a Dries fan, so you and I know there's some good Dries here, too. To be honest, I've just spotted over there those tiny little Gucci bags, and I'm quite obsessed. Okay, guys, I'm looking for a very specific item.
5:17I've been hunting for this item for three months. It's a Fendi croissant bag. Basically, all it's able to hold is a card and a lip gloss. And honestly, not even a card because the man should be paying. Black and pink three's dress. It's like fringe. It's so Olivia Dean-coated. And Naomi Elise Blue and I are fighting over it. I'm coveting, as always, pesquiere balenciaga, vintage Prada, and vintage Margiela. And there's some good Balenciaga in this, all the lady stuff. And then also for more girly girls, there's a lot of florals for spring, groundbreaking. There's a Mimi jacket over there that I have my eyes on.
5:59I was just looking at the Chanel's. People are like schmoozing and like talking and networking here, but I'm not. I'm just, my head is in the racks, yeah. I love to hunt. It's like a sport for me to find most beautiful pieces.
6:21We're here with the iconic Emily Bodie. She's shopping right now. Here you see. Going through the racks. What are you holding? You know, I went straight to George Cortina's rack. So I found a sweater of his. And I'm looking at two little halters made out of scarves. so it's alex ginsani right now we're here at the vogue market and i somehow managed to get something already i feel so lucky this gorgeous fabulous cartier watch i mean like it's just the most insane thing i've ever seen so chic so fab okay we're here with the one and only paloma you donated so much stuff to the vogue vintage market everyone's gonna be nuts for it What is the best item you think that you donated?
7:06The best thing I donated was a jean junior skirt. It's like a mermaid tail junior skirt that I love so much. It doesn't fit me. And I'm really excited for another girl to have a new life with it. We're here with Global Fashion Futures Director Nicole Phelps. She is the runway expert. Nicole, with your expertise, what is the most covetable item at the Vogue Vintage Market tonight? Oh, gosh. Well, I haven't done a thorough search yet, but I do like the Miu Miu jacket in the window. And that is, I think, a 2025 jacket that is a callback to a much, much older collection. I know there's a lot of Anna Wintour Chanel, including stuff that was designed especially for her by Karl Lagerfeld.
7:56And I did see one of our VIP friends holding on to that coat.
8:07What did you buy today? So I bought a Doja Cat catch-puller jacket, which is very cool. I bought some green boots and some fabulous Gucci platform heels that are gold with big curls all over it. We love that. I don't know what I need, but it's all fabulous. I'm so excited for you to wear. I'm so excited to make you.
8:33That's it for our on-the-ground coverage of the vintage market. The run-through will be back in just a moment with Emma Chamberlain.
8:49I am even more of an eBay scholar as a seller. Picture this, a perfect pair of brand new Prada loafers. They are a little clunky with a round toe and also half a size too small. Even the thinnest sock is not working. The shoes don't fit. And I've had my eye on a pair of pink mesh Converse Mary Janes that I haven't seen anywhere but eBay. So it feels like the right time to let one go and let one in. I was expecting it to be a little bit more complicated than it was, but eBay made it easier than ever. It only took me a few minutes to take a dozen photos. add a few details about the shoes, set my price, and put the listing up.
9:26One of my favorite pastimes is making a best offer on eBay, and now I'm excited to get my first offers.
9:39I'm Margo Ambuba. I'm Vogue's senior beauty and wellness editor. I'm Christian Allaire, Vogue's senior fashion writer. We are very excited today to have with us Emma Chamberlain. Thank you for having me. Welcome. Thank you. I'm so excited. Welcome to the run through. You look amazing. Thank you. You mentioned when you were walking in, you just are fresh off of a red eye. But will you tell us what you're wearing, how you're feeling? Yes.
10:01Emma Chamberlain:I am wearing a full vintage outfit. Vintage. Which is so fun. Wait, are you? Yes. Love. Tell us everything first. So, I actually don't even know the brands of everything. That's it. It just vintage. It makes it better. Like, I think this top is YSL. Chic. By the way, it's such a, like, so cringe. maybe like, I don't even know. I think it's what I saw. I'm like, this cute bottoms. I'm wearing like some cute, like boxy capris. Yes. Gray. A little culotte. And then I'm wearing a gorgeous boot. Okay, wait, let's put the boot up. Oh, flex. Ignore the sock though. That's not chic. But these are great boots.
10:35Emma Chamberlain:Great. Are they comfortable? No. Well, that's why they're great. But they look amazing. That's why they're great. So it's really fine. Boots are also not comfortable and they're vintage. So I feel you. Do you remember where you got it? Like all the pieces from all over? So to be honest, no. Like it's actually, Well, all of it's from eBay. Oh. We love eBay in this house. We love eBay in this house. And I'm a very much like, I love shopping in person. I really do. But there's something about end of a long day. I'm in bed. What am I going to do? It feels productive to like online thrift. Does that make sense?
11:09Emma Chamberlain:It's not just like online shopping. It feels like it's more responsible. Yeah. And so it is indulgent, but it's like, I can't even remember half the time. like when things got added to cart. I love a surprise mail arrival. I mean, see, but I'm trying to be good about not purchasing unless I really think first. Like I want to have something saved for a bit and I want to think about it. Okay, so your eBay technique is what exactly? I mean, I think on eBay specifically, I really like to be specific. Like I like to think about something in my wardrobe that perhaps I'm missing. And then I like to look up keywords and see what comes up.
11:47Emma Chamberlain:And then I kind of let the algorithm take me on a journey from there. I like utilizing algorithms for my journeys. Like even on like when I'm watching YouTube. It's like, you know what? The internet, it is a mess. It is toxic. But I'm going to use the algorithm to my benefit if I can. I'm curious what your closet looks like. Because you obviously, we said, are a vintage girl. But you're a fashion girl in general. Well, I'm in such a unique position where my closet at this very point in time is actually very bare bones. I don't have a lot of pieces, to be honest. I did, I think it was a little over a year ago now, I did major purge.
12:29Emma Chamberlain:Yeah, major closet clean out. And I did that because I had collected, especially, you know, going to thrift stores, it's easy to sort of overdo it. because I think you can because you get a good deal a lot of times, right? It's like you go into a vintage shop and it's like there's so many things that especially for me who likes to kind of experiment, it was like I'd go into a vintage store or a thrift store or whatever and I'd see a bunch of different things and there was so much potential that I would just kind of eyes bigger than my stomach, if you will, and I would just get way too much. And then I got to this point where I had an overwhelming collection of clothing where I couldn't utilize everything.
13:05Emma Chamberlain:And it was like, okay, someone else can utilize this better than me. And I also cannot deal with this clutter. I need to sort of own the mistake I've made as a consumer, ultimately, and sort of start over in a way with a different mindset. And so I've done many different things in order to sort of get those clothes in the possession of other people. It's been a process and a journey. Did you have like special pieces that your friends wanted and stuff? Like in my will, it says like so-and-so gets this, so-and-so gets that. Like Hannah Jackson, our co-worker. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anything that special, I'm keeping.
13:40Emma Chamberlain:Yes, okay. It was the stuff that I think I, that maybe like was more of an experiment. I did a lot of experimenting and I'd like to use the excuse of like, I work in the fashion space. Like I'm experimenting, but I actually didn't need to experiment. Like it was fully like, it was like I had to learn and I, but I fully am aware now of, not even in a way of like, on a fully personal level. I'm like that lifestyle, that way of consuming for my own well-being. take every other variable out of the picture. It was not good for me. Like it was like, it made fashion not fun for me because I was just overwhelmed by what I had.
14:14Emma Chamberlain:Too many choices. And so I changed my mindset. It's pretty simple. Quality over quantity. Okay. And also making timeless choices where it's like, okay, I'm going to be able to wear this for years to come. And I think what's also really cool is that working in this industry, I get to borrow clothing. You know, I don't have to necessarily. Which is so sustainable. Which is wonderful. And so, and I also work with my wonderful stylist. Jared Elner, and together we're like fashion soulmates and we have so much fun pulling from brands and ultimately we're turning the clothing. So it's like everything I wear to an event, that's not mine.
14:48Emma Chamberlain:You don't need to own much. And you know, people are, I see sometimes comments about say like an outfit and they're like, this outfit costs this much money. And I'm like, well, I did not buy that. I rented that and that has been given back. So for me, I think it's weird, like my personal style versus like my style with Jared and what we wear for more editorial moments or events. It's like, there is kind of a different thing going. And I think my personal style is much more simple, I would say. Well, I was going to ask you about that. Cause I, what I love is when you go to a show, like you fully lean into the vibe of the show.
15:20Like if you go to McQueen, you're going to look drastically different than if you're going to Loewe. And it's like you and Jared have a lot of fun with that. So when did you start like fully just like succumbing yourself to the vibe?
15:30Emma Chamberlain:I would say I originally started attending Fashion Week and I would go to one show, you know, and it was sort of like that was the itinerary. And it was cool because I could really focus on one look, really nailing it, whatever in my eyes, whatever nailing was at that time. I look back at what I, I don't know. I think I've grown a lot. Yeah, it must be great to have that all on the internet when you're like, it's wonderful. It's wonderful. It's great. But you know, it's humbling. Keeps me humble. every day I wake up and I, it's, then there's my streamies speech and it's like, okay. But I will say like, so I got to this point where I was like, you know, I really want to experiment and start going to more shows.
16:07Emma Chamberlain:And that's maybe a less conventional way to attend shows in a way. I think I really wanted to try to do Fashion Week in a more experiential way. Like I wanted to do the whole thing. I love that. And that's not the traditional way. You know, you both know what I mean. That's not really how Fashion Week usually works. Unless you're working it. You go and you're exclusive to one brand. You go to one show maybe sometimes. Totally. But I love fashion for me. It's such a hobby and something that I genuinely just, on a personal level, am looking at on my phone when I'm not at Fashion Week. So for me, it's like I want to be there.
16:43Emma Chamberlain:I want to be at multiple shows. And very quickly, once that sort of ball started rolling, Jared and I just like, we had the best time turning me into, you know, a different character for every show. It's so inspiring and it's so much fun because ultimately it is fun. Yeah, it's dress up. It's supposed to be dress up. And it's like it really I look at it. I still look at fashion in a big way is more of a hobby almost than a job in a way. I think it's like still very much a hobby and like a love and getting to participate in it is so special and take little risks. Hey, we love a risk. We love a risk.
17:20Fashion Week is the place to do it. But I have to say, we just did a lot of talking about Fashion Week. And you did share something on your YouTube, a video about, I want to make sure I get the name right. Nobody cares that you went to Fashion Week. Correct.
17:37Emma Chamberlain:Great title. I did title it that way. Great title. That's good. Will you explain this to me a little bit, though? After we cared that you went to Fashion Week and we're interested and we just talked about it. Thank you. I think that it's tricky because like for me, like the way that I look at fashion week is it's such a novelty experience for me every single time. And it's something that I'm so grateful I get to do because it isn't, how do I put this? It isn't necessarily necessary for me to attend. Okay. Like I don't need to, like I don't need to go. I make a choice where it's like I want to go because I want to be there and I want to see collections as they come out.
18:17Emma Chamberlain:A big part of going is, you know, trying to figure out, OK, what are we going to wear for, say, events or red carpets or editorial shoots or whatever? You know, so there is sort of a function to it. But also, like, technically, we could do that from the comfort of home. I think really the root of me wanting to be there is because I just am so excited about it. And it's like, it is a hobby for me. But I do think that there is sort of a, perhaps a stigma around Fashion Week where it is very glam. It's very glam. It's very extra. It's very, yeah. And I kind of also understand from an outside perspective that it's like enough with your, enough with the fashion stuff.
18:55Emma Chamberlain:I think I, and I think that's where that title came from for me was sort of understanding like, this is completely ridiculous. in some ways. It's not because it also is, because it's art in a way. If you look at it as art and you look at it as all these things, which is also, by the way, up for debate, is fashion art people debate. Absolutely it is. I think it is, but it depends on who else. It is a big debate. We might be having a big celebration sort of timed around that in May. Literally. Which, I mean, so I guess our opinions are on theme. Yes, there we go. But I just I think I it came from an awareness of like I can see how it can be even dystopian to perceive this sort of like situation of all these, you know, Internet personalities, if you will, at Fashion Week and actors and people who make music, whatever, everybody there.
19:51Emma Chamberlain:And it's just it is it's a bit dystopian. It's a bit weird. And I think I understand the complexity of it. Yeah. But I also just love it so much because it's so I just get so excited about it that I want to share it. So I think it was about sharing it with ideally as much as I could. A level of self-awareness. But you're always so real. Yeah. I think you have a very good sense of humor and self-awareness. That is so nice. Thank you. I've missed so many baby showers, so many weddings and stuff because of Fashion Week or Couture or the Met or whatever. Yeah. Something that we like to ask everyone.
20:25Do you have a first fashion memory? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Oh, let's hear it.
20:30Emma Chamberlain:Yeah. You had it ready. I know. Which actually is so bizarre because I don't know why I have this. It was really at the forefront. When I was younger, I loved dressing up in costumes. And I had various different costumes. I had a dolphin costume. It was almost like a furry situation. Like full body suit. Yes, the famous furry dolphin. Of course. And then I also had a cat one as well. Purple cat. It was a purple cat. Big cat lady over here. Huge cat. I have two cats. I totally get it. Tell us their names. Declan and Frankie. Your mom loves you. I mean, love. I don't miss you guys right now, though, because it's kind of nice to have a break because I'm super allergic to cats, actually.
21:06Emma Chamberlain:What? Yeah, I am. And I also just did an allergy test, too, and it came back, like, highest for cats out of, like, my whole— Are you going to do shots? I don't care. I take Allegra, and I go like this. Okay. And I get allergy attacks daily, and it's really fun. I love them so much, but it is nice to have a break. Yeah. Don't miss ya. I cannot wait to breathe out of my nose. My eyes are not itchy today, and that is a treat for me. But anyway, what was I even saying? A first fashion memory. You're dressing up. Purple cat. Dolphin. so I like I loved campy stuff like that but I think my favorite piece of clothing that I owned was this sparkly pair of Mary Janes that I'd wear with a pink tutu usually and I wore those until my foot was bursting out of them like I and my mom was like you can't wear these anymore honey they're like your foot you're hurting yourself and I was like no no anyway so then I just had to like deal with I mean then I just put the dolphin costume back on and got over it but yeah but it was like Like, I really loved, I had very specific things that I was really into that were, like, really extreme.
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22:04Emma Chamberlain:And I made sure to wear them as much as possible, even when it was sort of inappropriate for the setting that I was in. I mean, dolphins should be allowed in all spaces. All spaces. Not to go back to vintage, gotta know where you're shopping. Yes. Okay, well, I mean, I... Bay Area, New York, anywhere. Ooh, I mean, okay, I'm very much the type of person where I don't have, like, one fave vintage store. Okay. Like, I'm not like, oh, I'm hitting this spot every single time, and this is, like, my go-to. Okay. Like for me, when I'm in New York, we'll start there because I'm here. Chinatown. I'm bopping around.
22:34Emma Chamberlain:You know what I mean? I'm going to James Valoria. I know. But also all the little shops up in that little shopping center. Yes. It's really become an interesting like mecca of vintage shopping. But then right off of Dime Square or whatever, there's so many little spots you can pop into. So that's wonderful. I also like, but even to, where is it? It's like near Orchard on Orchard. there's like some I love those I've like really scored on those okay Los Angeles I would say well I love the Rose Bowl Flea yes I haven't been in it yet and I'm dying to go it's so wonderful and it's I mean it's massive and it's so overwhelming but it's cool because it's I don't know it feels very LA and it's all in one place are you a negotiator like no no no I don't Christian and I both like to haggle I'm like a tipper I'm just I'm at a place in my life where I'm like if I love something I'm just so grateful I found it I'm like take the full price here's also an extra$10 I'm just so lucky I don't want to buy something unless I'd pay more for it than it's worth almost okay because it's so special if that makes sense no it does I found this like amazing pair it's my favorite pair of pants right now it's this like vintage pair of cream work pants they're like the perfect fit and I found them at the Rose Bowl Flea and I like tried them on at the Flea I think which was honestly like a little bit of a wild experience because it's not on the open not fully I mean I would by the way I wear granny panties it's like right off the beach let me just whatever but I think I got into one of those little tents and I'm like whatever and then I'm like trying to find a mirror and I'm whatever and I look in the mirror and I was like whoa those are good and I was so stoked I was like I said to myself in my head I was like I don't care how much these are I don't care if there's some sort of weird rare pant like I will drop Japanese dinner only one I was like 200 for these even though they're like kind of decrepit and they're like stained let's do it I don't remember how much they were because I didn't even care I was like these are perfect to me and that is my new shopping philosophy is like I want something to be so perfect it's a no brainer I like a find I like a diamond in the rough I have a hot take question with vintage because I'm kind of disgusting and I won't clean anything when I buy it what's our thoughts on this?
24:52I'm dry cleaning sorry wait no you go first you go first I like, it's known around the office, which is weird. Wear vintage underwear, vintage everything. Yeah, you do. No problem with putting it on my body. Right out of the, and I'm like a digger. I will go to like anywhere. Right off, just straight away. Do not care. Straight away. I open it up, put it on. I do not care. I know. Underwear is next level. I know, I know. And also like the places that I go is I go to like warehouses where I'm wearing like full dishwasher gloves, pulling through. Try it all on. As soon as I get home, I don't care.
25:26Okay. Wear it if I want. I know. This makes me feel particularly clean. You're like, your growth got away from me. I'm a very clean person normally. I will like wash it obviously eventually. And I wash everything, like hand wash everything in the bathtub. So I'm doing laundry every night because like the cycle of doing it. But yeah, I don't. I'm not judging. Here's the thing. And then sometimes I get distracted and wear it around. Totally.
25:49Emma Chamberlain:Yeah. I don't think you're grimy for that, by the way. I'm not judging you at all. However, there was like a rumor for many, for the first like five years of my career that I was a grimy girl. Oh, really? Yes. I feel like I've never heard this word. Wow, so now bring it back. Yeah, bring it back. No, but everybody, I like made one joke once that I don't shower or something and then it lasted for like five years, whatever. But I've gotten progressively more grossed out as I've gotten older, like a bit more scared of like things like lice. Yeah, you are like aware. Or like little mites or like little, or like what if you put on a pair of like a little, like there's some things.
26:22Emma Chamberlain:you can get. I know. And I think I become, I think my health anxiety has gotten worse as I've gotten older. So it's not even that it's like gross to me. It's more like I literally get it dry cleaned. I will throw it straight in the wash. I'm doing that. But then again though, I'm at the Rose Bowl Flea trying on my favorite pants. Yeah, yeah. And like, but underwear, I think the underwear, I think that's where I draw the line. I think I've hit my limit. But I love that you would do that and you gotta see if it fits. Yeah. True. I'm like really hardcore about it and I'm just sort of like whatever, doesn't bother me.
26:53What do you think is like, Christian's like, end up this, stop it. I'm like, next question.
26:56Emma Chamberlain:I loved it. I loved it. And I hope, and they will probably cut it, but I hope we keep it in. No, I love it. I want to know what the wildest thing you've ever found is. Like, out of vintage store, market, your holiest grail, like, what is the craziest thing? Okay, I will say I have this vintage Jean-Paul Gaultier top that is already chic. Already off to a good start. No, well, listen, I also have like some random, like, you know what I mean? But this is the coolest piece I think I have. And it's this top. It's maroon. It's like sweatshirt material. And it's a three-quarter. Three-quarter. Three-quarter.
27:30Emma Chamberlain:But it's not even three-quarter. It's like, it's a little longer than three-quarter. Whatever. And it has like a wide neck. It's maroon. And it has two little pockets on the tummy here. And you can put your hands in, and it's gloves. Chic. No, it's the coolest thing I've ever found. And it's like so me in a top. Wow. And that is my best vintage find. That's a good one. It's a surprise and delight. Are you, though, coming into it being like, I want this JPG top? Or did you find it and fall in love with it? Or is there two? There's like a surprise thing I hope I find. And then, like, I'm leaving it open to the vintage gods also.
28:04Emma Chamberlain:Well, if I'm in person, I'm just, like, letting it come to me. Like, it's, like, full free for all. And I am just letting the vintage designer gods show me the light, okay? However, online, I do have, like, certain brands that I know I have. Looking for. Like I love vintage CDG. I love Margiela, JPG. Like there's certain brands that I know just like have a plethora of vintage that I love. Yeah, totally. That I think we all love, by the way. Like, hello. There's competition out there. I know. Are you a bidder? Do you bid? But the gambling can be kind of fun. Yeah. Of it all in life in general, right?
28:42Emma Chamberlain:But I'm not, that's not where I'm at. I want to be obsessed and be like, this is something that I'm going to wear for years to come. I'm so convinced. It's like, say yes to the dress level. That's the one deal. It's a deal. That aligns with your closet ethos, I like. Yeah. It does, yeah. It really does align with it. I'm glad I've arrived here. It was a long journey. The Run Through will be back in a minute.
29:14I'm a big believer in making room for what's to come. In this case, it's literally making space in my closet for the items that I've had on my eBay watch list, like a Paloma Picasso book bag that looks like an actual book with a raised spine and everything and a gorgeous little tassel, a Jill Sander iridescent jacket and trousers, Dior vintage wool suits. I've bought four and two were backed by authenticity guarantee and all of them fit like a glove. I like letting something go and investing in what I want the next phase of my life to look like. And eBay always helps make it a reality. I'm already thinking about what I can post next on eBay.
29:47Maybe it's the pink knit Mew Mew miniskirt that I have not worn.
29:58I don't know what we are and are not allowed to say, but if you were going to attend the Met, would you have already picked your outfit out?
30:06Emma Chamberlain:Oh, we're working. Okay. Oh, we're working. We're working. We are working. We're deep in the face. We're in the process. We have sketches. Oh, okay. See, I mean, we're like a month and a half out. Well, I'm really fortunate because I work with you all. I, you know, I do a little bit of what y 'all are doing. I do it a little bit. I'm really fortunate that, you know, you know how it is. Like, Met invites kind of, they're like trickling in sometimes for some people until like the last week. Brands are filling the tables. It's a whole thing. And I'm so fortunate that I get my sort of invite a little earlier because I'm kind of working the day.
30:43Emma Chamberlain:and so it's so cool because I get a lot of time. You're like a Met veteran almost. Yeah, but I don't expect anything and no one ever should. Like, you cannot, like, you cannot assume your position. Like, every year I'm like, this could be the last year and that is absolutely okay with me. I am so grateful that I've ever been able to do it and I am, like, if I get kicked out and I never get to go to another Met, the fact that I got to go to, what, this will be like my, Yeah, what is it? Six? Yeah. How many have you been to? Almost six too, I think. We might have had six. But do you still get nervous?
31:16Oh. It seems nervous. You don't seem nervous at all. You don't. How do you prepare for like talking to celebs, talking to people? I mean, you're a celebrity yourself. You do it all the time, I'm sure. But like on camera.
31:28Emma Chamberlain:I mean, I think something that brings me a lot of peace, I think now at this point, is that I've done it so many times before. However, I do still feel it's one of those things where like I really want to evolve it. I feel like really inspired by like, how can I improve this? I think my greatest anxiety is it's so short, you know? Yeah. Like you get two minutes with somebody right before they're about to go out on the carpet. And a lot of times they're nervous because they're about to walk the biggest carpet of the year. And it's like everyone's, there's so much pressure. Like I know that feeling because I do that part as well.
32:05Emma Chamberlain:So it's a really interesting, it's an interesting dynamic where you want to be disarming. you don't want to like overwhelm people with questions they're not necessarily like perfectly prepared for it but then also too you want to ask interesting questions but then you also don't want to like the Met is such like a there's so much complexity to the event and all this so you also don't want to like bombard somebody it is this dance and I think I would like to believe that every year I get better at it I really I'm this year I'm I'm manifesting like exponential growth I'm like I want to like I want to lock in this year I'm ready.
32:41Emma Chamberlain:And maybe I'm jinxing myself. And you all can hold me accountable and say, Emma, you did not lock in. You said you were going to and you didn't. But I was going to ask you, you're so great, obviously, at creating these viral moments on the carpet. We could talk about Jack Harlow, but we won't. But I'm sure you've been asked a million times. But like... People love it. People love that moment. Can you plan like these amazing viral moments? Or is it really just like you got to hope and pray that you really vibe with someone? Or how does that work? Like you really are good at creating these amazing moments on the carpet.
33:09It is fully, like, to be honest, if you want to know what the real experience is for me, my approach is fully feel-based based on the exact, and I don't want to plan ahead because I
33:24Emma Chamberlain:know how complicated the situation is emotionally, timing-wise, you know, so it's very spur of the moment and going off of people's answers, what they say. Does it seem like they want to keep it surface level? They don't want to dig into anything right now. And they also don't want to talk about the day they've had. They just want to, like, talk about the look and... Get on out. Because sometimes that's the way it is, and that's totally understandable and great. Sometimes people, I can feel like, oh, people are looser. And then I just have fun with it and let loose and play and hope that the editors don't cut my jokes because they were too funny because sometimes that happens.
34:02Everyone's laughing too hard. A little too hard.
34:04Emma Chamberlain:I'm being a little too silly. That happens to me a lot with this podcast. It's fine. But honestly, though, I think that's how you create viral moments. You cannot plan it. You cannot. And because the audience can weirdly feel that. They want to feel like they caught something. So if anything feels remotely manufactured, that will not go viral. You never know it's going to go viral. I swear, every viral moment I've had, there haven't been that many, but every moment, it's been completely unpredictable. You're like, that? That was the moment? I know. like the Jack Harlow I would have never whatever and it's which is super cool I mean I think but that's also the magic of like not going in with a super rigid plan like I think we were able to riff because we just had that energy totally but again that's also not necessary in every interview you're not going to have that in every interview some are going to be a bit more professional and I think that that can also be interesting and intriguing in its own way totally so obviously I'm beauty and wellness editor I want to know what are you do you do anything to prep?
35:06Are you getting facials? Are you meditating to get your cortisol down? What is your sleep score? If you are tracking it, tell me. Pre-met, post-met, I don't care, just like in your life. But also when you have a big event like this. Like I'm going to get facials and I'm working downstairs, like typing away on my little laptop because I'm like, I want to look pretty in the building.
35:25Emma Chamberlain:Yeah. No, I mean it's also like fun to like get into the, I don't know, it's a really glamorous, like exciting, it almost feels like a pageant. and like I really enjoy the sort of the novelty of that experience and I'm not aloof to sort of like how in some ways ridiculous I think it's like it can be almost ridiculous the prep the drama of like putting together this look when it's like but it is so much fun and it is such a special thing so I like I don't think there's anything wrong with leaning into it and I definitely do I love it I will say in general I definitely am secretly health and wellness girly.
36:04Emma Chamberlain:Oh, let's hear it. But like in the way that I like drink my electrolytes. I love my hot yoga. I love walking. I walk a lot. Okay. That's like something that's coming with the rotation the last year and a half. It's not 10 ,000 steps. It's 20. Oh God, 20? It's ridiculous. I was going to say, I can't. No, it's 10 for me. Okay. And I try to walk outside, get the vitamin D going. That's very important to me. You know, I try to cook my own meals. as much as possible. Lots of fiber going. I want to ask about Forbidden Fruit. Yes. Yeah, we have to ask about it. Yes. Because you've made your acting debut recently.
36:42Will you tell us what that experience was like?
36:44Emma Chamberlain:It was like the perfect introduction to acting for me and a great like experience because it was the perfect size. Like it was a gorgeously petite role. You know what I mean? Gorgeously petite. I got to pop in, experience it, and pop out. Was it a day? Like a day shoot? It was two days. I think I was there for like two and a half days, like whatever, which is so short. And everybody else was there for like a month. I really wanted to experiment with it, try it in a way that was petite. You know what I mean? Like a bit more, because I want to make sure that I'm, I don't want to be taking a lead role and not be ready for that.
37:24Emma Chamberlain:But I also think too, how do you know how you feel about the experience until you do it? like you can only prep so much and understand so much before you just kind of gotta throw yourself into the deep end of course and I mean I loved it I really love the structure I'm really used to doing everything myself in my life and career for the most part and so this was really cool to like step into somebody else's vision and kind of let go and like it's not me I'm being somebody else you know what I mean I'm dressing as somebody else the glam is everything it was like yeah did you find that easier than you expected to be like a character well I guess I do do that a lot especially in like going to fashion week editorial shoots I definitely but that's definitely a different type of character right like that's almost like it's a bit more sexy you know what I mean it's a bit it's like whereas this was this was like I'm turning into a completely different person yeah literal character not like a built up version of me so but I really enjoyed that and I really enjoyed the whole experience I thought it was like I felt more comfortable than I thought I would and whether or not I did a good job is up to debate y 'all can debate that today isn't it out today as we're recording this which is really cool I'm honestly embarrassed about my kissing scene because I think I had a kissing scene and let me tell you I can't watch it so I will never know wait I go like this how do you prepare for a kissing scene in a movie you no actually I was like shockingly chill about it because I was like at the time that we shot it like I was fully in a relationship and I was like joking around about it with my boyfriend at the time and he was like you got this he was like do you want to practice?
38:57Emma Chamberlain:I was like, I don't know. What do I do? But then I showed up and the dude I shot it with, he was so cool and we just like, we're like, let's just have fun with it. It's like not a big deal. It's not that deep. And also like, we don't like each, it doesn't matter if we think the other's a good kisser. Who cares? Right. But it's weird to like, act while kissing. It's like, like, was that kiss me? No. Yeah. That wasn't like a me kiss. Right. I don't kiss like that. Right. So I think that's why it made me cringe too because I was like, already, I wouldn't, I've never seen myself kiss anyone before anyway, but then it wasn't even a me kiss.
39:28Emma Chamberlain:It was an acted kiss. So then I was like, ew, who is that? And I can't see it. But I think everybody struggles with seeing that. But it was really, it really pushed me out of my comfort zone in a way that was really inspiring. And I don't know what I'm going to do next in the acting zone. Okay, so a petite medium role next? There we go. Hey, you never know. I have no clue. I'm really in an intuitive phase of my career right now where I'm like, I have a lot of experimenting to do, to be honest, for this next phase. I'm an adult now, prefrontal cortex, locked in. I'm almost 25 in May. And so, I'm a completely different person and I need to like...
40:03That's a transformative age. It is. We'll say.
40:06Emma Chamberlain:But the internet, it's like, oh, it's really scary to like, be on the precipice of what's next on the internet because it's like, oh, I might need to pull back for a second and figure it out. And I've been like, trying to do that for so many years. Yeah. But I've never been able to do it all the way. and so it's I'm in a weird moment here but I'm stoked I feel really inspired though and excited to just try new things and hey you know if I get bullied hard enough out of something then I'll just try the next thing and that's how you started showering and that's when I took my first shower okay now we're gonna play our game we have like a little this or that so maybe Christian and I'll switch off okay it's all vintage themed okay and I'm gonna keep my answer short or do you want me to elaborate no you can elaborate a little bit okay a little I elaborate too much Roll in a petite elaboration.
40:52Perfect. I'll start. Vintage bags or vintage shoes?
40:55Emma Chamberlain:Vintage bags. Actually, vintage shoes. Vintage shoes. Wait, fuck. Vintage shoes, because I don't like putting my stuff. I don't mind my foot being near something that's maybe more used and stuff. The bag sometimes will smell like cigarettes and stuff, and I struggle with that a bit more. When I find a tissue in a vintage bag, it really makes it very— No, it's tough. Yeah. Also, too, I will put my phone in there and then put my phone up to my face. So it's a bit more intimate. So I would rather have a new bag. Okay. That's my answer. Why am I talking so fast? Vintage Levi's or vintage Wranglers?
41:28Levi's. Okay. I'm going to have a Levi's girl, too. I'm with you. Oh, this is going to be a hard one for you. Vintage JPG or vintage Galliano? Two hot ones on the market. I own more JPG. Okay. So I'm going to say JPG. Vintage leather or vintage denim?
41:44Emma Chamberlain:Ooh. Leather. because I do love leather and I prefer to have it vintage. Yes, totally. Whereas denim, I'm not necessarily opposed to a gorgeous new pair of denim. Yes, totally. If it was made so beautifully and whatever. But I do love vintage denim. So that's hard. Okay. Vintage Chanel, vintage Hermes. Two of the most luxurious brands in the world. You know what's wild? You don't own either. I have one Hermes. Hermes. Oh. Yeah, because I actually have a really cool tote bag that I love that is vintage. Yeah, that's my answer. But those are not my brands. Like, I'm not looking those up. Yes, yes.
42:23Emma Chamberlain:Interesting. Okay, so to close, we want to just know a quick hit on what your cultural diet is right now. Is there anything that you're loving? Is it that you're reading something? Are you listening to something? Is there a song you can't get out of your head? I was saying I'm learning the Midnight Sun Zara Larson dance right now. Are you going to learn it? She can't get out of my head now. Are you going to learn it with me and do it at the mat? What's happening? Okay, well, obviously, I need to get... See, I'm so off the internet. I don't scroll on anything. The only thing I do is watch YouTube.
42:50Emma Chamberlain:And I watch the most random, random things on YouTube. Like, it couldn't be more random. Like, I can't even give you, like, a genre because it's, like, it changes every day. Yeah. But I'll, like, watch, like, a video essay on Applebee's, and then my next video will be, like, a new music video from, like, an artist that I, like, know one song from, and for some reason the algorithm knew that I'd want to see that music video. It's very random. Okay. I will say my favorite song right now, Heavy Metal Drummer by Wilco. Weird. Weird. It also is like about me. I feel like I, it was like one of my favorite songs as a kid.
43:19Emma Chamberlain:Oh. And I heard the song again because my dad used to play it around me. And then I heard it again as an adult and it was something like shiny pants and bleach blonde hair and I was like, this is my song right now. I was like, that's so me. But also it's a great song. Great song. So I'm like on repeat, the plane's taking off, I'm having flight anxiety, heavy metal drummer, she fell in love with the drummer and other than another, she fell in love. Everything's fine. Oh, love. Well, on that note, thank you so much for coming. I know, me neither. Let's just stay. Thank you so much for joining us on the run through.
43:52Yes, we'll see you at the mat. We'll see you on the red carpet. We'll see you at Fashion Week. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? This is just the beginning of us. There we go. I think so too. Okay, good. That's our show for today. Bye.
44:07The Run Through with Vogue is produced by Chelsea Daniel, Alex DePalma, and Alex John Burns with help from Emily Elias. The show is engineered by Brand Bandy and mixed by Mike Kutchman. Bye.
44:26One of the reasons I'm starting to sell on eBay is so that I can make room to start shopping the trends that I saw at Paris Fashion Week. One trend that I'm really loving right now, I'm sort of like loosely calling escapist analog because it's this homage to pre-cell phone, like pre-social media moments when everything was a physical copy, whether it was a DVD, a CD, a vinyl, a magazine, a book. You can obviously find pristine and perfect clothes on eBay, but if there's something that was really cherished by its owner and pre-loved, that's really cool too because there are frayed threads and a lot of visibly worn items walking the runway that really gives you permission to not let everything be too perfect.
45:10Right now, I do have my eye on some vintage J.Crew leather flats, and they're such high quality and really hard to find anymore. Also, there's a Whiting and Davis mesh top that is disco era, very dance club energy. And I've been watching it for a while and making best offers, but I have yet to woo the seller. But I'm still hopeful because now I do have a plan. I'm going to keep selling some of my own pieces on eBay and start making bids on my dream editions, because that's the circle of life for my wardrobe.
From the publisher
Emma Chamberlain will go to great lengths to find the right piece of vintage for her closet. She is not a stranger to curling up in bed at the end of a long day to try to hunt for the perfect item for her wardrobe when she gets a break from her demanding schedule.
“I kinda let the algorithm take me on a journey,’ says Chamberlain on her online shopping habits. “The internet… it is a mess. It is toxic, but I'm gonna use the algorithm to my benefit, if I can.”
Although Chamberlain says when she does have a break, she loves to shop in person. "When I'm in New York, Chinatown,” says Chamberlain giving a shoutout to James Veloria. “But also all the little shops up in that little shopping center.”
At home in Los Angeles, Chamberlain has one hotspot she keeps going back to, the Rose Bowl Flea Market.
Chamberlain will be back on Vogue’s Met Gala carpet this May as Vogue's special correspondent for her sixth consecutive year. “I don't expect anything…Like every year I'm like, ‘This could be the last year’,” says Chamberlain. “I am so grateful that I've ever been able to do it.”
Also on this episode, Vogue Runway's Irene Kim and producer Alex Jhamb Burns take listeners inside the second annual Vogue Vintage Market which took place this past Saturday. They spoke to folks in the line—some who had been waiting for hours—about the vintage pieces they were most coveting and the pieces they walked out the door with.
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