Everything Vogue Editors Can’t Wait To Watch And Read This Fall

0:05This is The Run Through. I'm Choma Nardi and today I'm joined in the studio by my colleagues and frequent guests of the pod, Taylor Antrim, deputy editor at Vogue, and Chloe Sharma, senior editor at Vogue. Hi, Taylor and Chloe. Hi, Choma. Hi, Choma. It's fun to be back. Nice to be talking about culture again. Yeah. I always love that. It's so nice to be actually in the studio. Guys, I'm IRL. I'm not zooming in from London, so this is quite exciting. This is really as it's meant to be. Yeah, and I always look forward to the full culture preview because I feel like I get all of my movie television.

0:38I mean, definitely theater. You know I know nothing about theater. So I get all of my recommendations from you guys. Exactly. I'll give it a go. And you told us when you came in that you've already been in New York for a week. Yeah. And you've already been to the movies twice. Oh, my God, yes. You're killing it. Yes. Tell us what you saw. So I saw One Battle After Another, which has been a big recommendation from so many friends. And I'm very curious to know what you thought about it, Taylor. I saw that one. Chloe, have you seen it? I did. I saw it on a screening. Maybe a different one than you went to.

1:03But yeah. Oh, okay. So I saw it a month or two ago. All right. And I saw Roof Man, which I loved, which is a new Chan and Tate movie, which was really fun. I've seen that one too. Yeah. So let's start with Battle. What did you guys think? Did it live up to expectations? I mean, the reviews are out. Everybody's over the moon about this movie. Did you love it? I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was so, it felt so prescient, like given the moment that we're in. And I don't know how they pulled it off because it was just a lot of delicate subject matter, but it just, and it ended in a really hopeful way.

1:33Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought Chase Infinity was a complete start. Tiana Taylor was amazing. Just gave it her all. Yeah. And you can't help but fall for Leo. Yeah. Nardo DiCaprio. I'm never one to be like, oh, you know, it's been a while since I was like a huge Leo fan. But I just thought he was so good and so lovable and really complex and well-rounded. And funny. And funny. I mean, the movie is funny. And the reason the movie is funny is because of Leo. You know, I was reminded like I have some mixed feelings about Leo. I sometimes feel like a movie is just like obliterated by the fact that Leo was in it.

2:04You know what I mean? Like that Wall Street movie. I feel like all I can remember is Leo on, like, you know, LSD or whatever it was. But anyway, he was so funny and so entertaining. And I was like, movie stars, man. You know, when you really get one in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie like this, it just carries you straight through. And he's playing his age in a kind of appealing way. Like, he's a little grizzled, you know. He's, like, a little bit sort of like the characters kind of a little past their prime, like, trying to figure out middle age. And that's, like, so charming on him. He actually wears it really well.

2:34I thought what you said about it being timely. It's so interesting because it's like sort of timely and sort of timeless. You're not quite sure like what period of history it's in. And it's speaking to the present, but it's also speaking to like a kind of alternate present. And I just thought it was so smart in addition to being so entertaining. It's just like big like swing for it movie making, I thought. Love that we're doing our preview with a movie that came out a month ago. But anyway. Check that one off the list. And Roofman was fun, right? Channing Tatum. Roofman was so fun. Talk about movie stars.

3:02Yeah. That guy is so appealing, right? So appealing. I mean, you just can't get enough of him in that film. And I thought Kirsten Dunst was so great. She's amazing. This stage of her career, whatever she's doing now, like I've watched Kirsten Dunst movies, like her entire career, obviously. She's such a star. But there's something really special about her acting right now, I think. So anyway, that movie's really fun too. But also out, and we're supposed to talk about what we're looking forward to. What are you looking forward to? Okay, so I do love movies, and I love this time of year for movies.

3:32And Chloe and I are super fortunate that we get to see some things early. And maybe we should start with Hamnet because I feel like you and I saw Hamnet really early. And we didn't know what – it was before all the festivals when people were like, oh, my God, this movie is like the best movie that's ever been made or whatever. And you and I just saw it in like a midtown screening room and sort of staggered out and looked at each other like, wow. So tell us. Tell us what you thought. So, well, Hamlet is based, it's sort of like a lesser well-known chapter of Shakespeare's life, and it's based on a novel, so it's a fictionalized interpretation of that chapter of his life following the, correct me if I get any of this wrong, Taylor, death of his son.

4:14And that's not giving anything away. And his son's name was Hamnet, and so there's kind of interpretation, and I don't know the facts of this, but in the novel certainly that that led to Hamlet. And, you know, the film is essentially tracing out him becoming a father and then going through this excruciating tragedy and then kind of the writing of the play. And it was a novel, as I said. I haven't read the novel, but I had followed its trajectory to become a play that was extremely well-reviewed in England. I don't think I ever came to America. And then adapted by Chloe Zhao, the director who we adore and we featured several times into this play.

4:51And I, again, like, returning to that image of us staggering out of the theater, I had an experience I've never had before, which is when the security guard handed me some tissues on my way out because he could see I was, like, destroyed by this film, you know, for obvious reasons I've already alluded to. But it's so beautifully done. We should say, of course, the two stars are Jesse Buckley and Paul Muskell. And Paul Muskell plays William Shakespeare. But it is truly Jesse Buckley's movie. I mean, Paul Muskell is an amazing performance. And he really gets to actually, you know, speak some of the Shakespeare language from Hamlet in the film.

5:28But Jessie Buckley is just a titanic performance. And she's been like kicking around, turning in these incredible performances. But this one could be just like a career topper, I feel like. Yeah. I think, I mean, it's a little silly to be like, award season, as soon as you see something. But it just felt like she will be a major contender during award season for big ones. I think she's going to be hard to beat. I think she's going to be hard to beat. Yeah. So the other movie, Choma, that Chloe and I got to see. So we saw Hamnet early and we were like, ooh, you know, fancy us. We could see this movie.

5:55I got to see, I went to Toronto and I got to see The Testament of Anne Lee, which is directed by Mona Fastfold, who is the partner of Brady Corbet, who we know from The Brutalist. And I had sort of heard about this movie, just this kind of like crazy, you got to see it, like art film, but also like what a spectacle. And it stars Amanda Seyfried. And the thing I have to say is like, I love this movie. I thought it was so beautiful to look at and really a must see. but I have never seen Amanda Seyfried like this before. Wow. Yeah. I feel like she's leveled up into some other category of actress.

6:26I'm so happy for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It rarely happens. I feel like maybe Demi Moore had that moment last year. Yeah. Right, right. I mean, if you think of her as carrying, like, the long trail of Mamma Mia, like, she shakes it off. It's like, no more Mamma Mia. What a relief for her. But we should say she plays Anne Lee, who is the founder of The Shakers, this kind of branch of the Quakers, but that became like a very American-born religion, and it tells a story of her moving from Manchester in the UK to upstate New York to basically found this super interesting religion, which I am kind of obsessed with.

6:57I've visited many Sheikah villages in America, actually. Yeah, totally. And really, like, you know, even if you're like, ooh, not so into 18th century religious history, it's also about, like, what it was like to be a woman at that point and, like, why you would, you know, be inspired to start a new religion, essentially, and kind of what she goes through in that process. And it just is visually like the use of music and dance in this movie. It's so unique. Like it's not. Dance is dance. Yes. Because the religious. I'm not expecting that. Yeah. The religious ecstasy that the Shakers were driven to caused them to move in these kinds of dance like ways.

7:33And this is enacted over and over again in the movie. And it's like so mesmerizing to watch. So I don't know. The Testament of Anne Lee. I really recommended it. Played at the festivals. Yep. And then was snapped up, I think, by Searchlight and is coming out on Christmas Day. So I think it's going to be a big movie. And I think Amanda Seyfried is going to be in the conversation too. OK. I have seen a couple of things that I want to mention really quickly. I think I'm really focused on the best actress race because I think there's these incredible performances. And the one that I want to call out is Jennifer Lawrence, who's in this Lynn Ramsey movie called Die My Love.

8:09And I'm not suggesting that this is going to be the biggest movie ever because it's a tough watch. It's like a mother, sort of a young mother played by Jennifer Lawrence, sort of losing her mind. And she's married to Robert Pattinson and they're in this sort of isolated house. And it's a movie about, you know, mental illness and motherhood of which we've had many in the last year. We were in the office. We were kind of having a list. But I just thought this movie was so punk rock and so like hardcore and in your face. And Jennifer Lawrence gives everything to this role. And I think you've got to see it.

8:39And I think she will be in the conversation for that. and then another movie that swept me off my feet and this one I do recommend unreservedly is do you guys remember a movie called The Worst Person in the World? One of my favorite movies ever I'm so excited for this new movie So the director of The Worst Person in the World is Joachim Trier and this is his new film with the star of that previous film Renata Reinsva who is this amazing actress and she is in this film called Sentimental Value about sisters and they have this sort of like filmmaker father who is played by the incredible Stellan Starsgaard.

9:15And I just, it's so moving and it's such a beautiful movie about family legacy and sort of resentments between a parent and a daughter, but also love and attachment. And I just, Elle Fanning is in it. I can't recommend it enough, guys. This movie is really incredible. It comes out November 7th. So put those two on your list. I can't wait to see that. Now, one movie you and I have seen, Shoma. You were in Venice and you were among the first to see Paolo Sorrentino's La Grazia, right? Yeah. And then I saw it like last week or something. Yeah, what did you think? I still am thinking about that film months later.

9:50I guess I loved The Great Beauty. Yeah, that's the one that kind of made, put Sorrentino on the map. Yeah, exactly. And this was quite different. Yeah, it's about an Italian president sort of at the end of his term. And he's facing this very difficult decision about whether to legalize euthanasia, assisted death. And in a Catholic country like Italy, this is like a really difficult decision for him to make. And of course, it's played by, the actor who plays the president is Tony Servillo, who's a longtime, you know, kind of muse and collaborator with Palo Sorrentino. And I think what will stick with me is that performance because I could watch him, you know, all day long.

10:31He was really amazing. But I thought it was a beautiful film and has some kind of incredible sequences. And if you're into Sorrentino, you got to go see this one. But also it has like a weirdly like strong Vogue Italia cameo. So tell us about that show. Well, I think actually that's where the art imitating life comes in because there was a story that our colleagues at Italian Vogue did on a politician that got a lot of headlines. In Italy, they profiled a young left-wing politician and it got quite a lot of, it was quite a lot of online chatter about it so i think sorrentino was actually very inspired by that to include uh vogue italian it was a real surprise to me because i'd spoken to francesca who's the head of editorial content at um vogue italian she's like he said something about it maybe being in the film but it's quite present there is a vogue editor who basically gets a scoop on this story about how this italian president wants to convey his legacy and so So at the end of the film, they're having this conversation.

11:35You never see her, which I think is quite nice. She sounds like very seasoned. She doesn't sound like an ingenue. She definitely sounds like she's been in the game. She's got some skin in the game. So it was quite cool. I appreciated that we weren't played for laughs. Yeah, at all. It was like a real, you know, an important sort of plot moment in the story that Vogitalia came in and provided this outlet for him to really express himself. So I don't know. I thought that was kind of cool. Same, same. I did too. I did too. So that one's coming out December 5th in the U.S. and in an art house cinema near you, I'm sure.

12:11But it's a good one to see. And then there's more. Like, have you seen Marty Supreme? I'm seeing it tomorrow. Oh, my God, lucky. I'm so excited. I know. Well, I know someone who's seen it. I mean, this is such a silly thing. But they did like some secret screening at New York Film Festival. So there are a few people that have seen it. I have not. But the buzz on this movie is really good. I didn't realize. I think you're going to see it before any of us. I'm one of the special few. Yeah. Anyway, Timothee Chalamet, Gwyneth Paltrow, like Marty Supreme. That's going to come out on Christmas Day, too.

12:40Amazing. And it's directed by Josh Safdie. So can you explain the brothers split? Because I didn't realize that they now – are they – is it – amic – what? I don't know. Are we talking about this? I don't know. I actually don't know. I'm just like suddenly – why are they suddenly doing movies by themselves? Separately. So Benny and Josh Safdie directed Uncut Gems, which is, I think, the last movie, the last Safdie Brothers movie that we saw. And then this season, there have been two, right? Benny Safdie directed The Smashing Machine, which is— Yeah, have you seen that? I have not seen it. I have not seen it.

13:13But that came out, like, a couple weeks ago to good reviews. And Dwayne Johnson in, like, a really, you know, a role that everybody's giving him a lot of praise for. and then Josh Safdie his brother has this film that he sort of to some degree collaborated with Timothee Chalamet on Timothee Chalamet is a producer on it and the star that's loosely based on the life of Marty Reisman who's a you know 1950s New York character who became like a ping pong champion I didn't realize it was based on it loosely based loosely based yeah yeah yeah anyway that's really exciting and before we move on from movies I just gotta say guys there is yet another Christmas movie you gotta see and if anybody likes the music of Neil Diamond even if you don't I implore you to not dismiss this movie.

13:54It's called Song Song Blue. It's directed by Craig Brewer, who is the guy who wrote and directed Hustle and Flow, which is such a great movie. And it stars Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman. And Hugh Jackman is a Neil Diamond impersonator. It's a true story. And it's in some ways a jukebox movie, guys. Like there's music in the movie, but it's so well performed. It's a heart-rending story that we had a Vogue screening of it. I was like dazzled, would not stop talking to anybody I saw about like songs. I'm blue, you got to see it. But there were two younger colleagues in the screening who came because, you know, this was an Anna screening and a lot of us just like go no matter what, right?

14:30You know, Naomi was one of them. And I was catching up with her. It was Naomi and Sam Sussman. I was catching up with them outside the screening afterwards. Neither of them had heard of Neil Diamond or had not heard a Neil Diamond song. Sorry, they probably heard of Neil Diamond. They had not heard a Neil Diamond song coming through, going into that movie. And And outside they were like, that was great. Wow. That was really great. Yeah, it's romantic. It's sad. It's like touching. It's like you got to see it. And Hugh Jackman can do anything. That guy's amazing. So Song Song Blue, December 25th.

14:59Got to choose between that, Marty Supreme and The Testament of Anne Lee. Yeah. Diversity in your options. Another movie that's coming out that people are buzzing about and our boss Anna is buzzing about, which has put a lot of pressure on us to actually see it because she saw it before any of us, which is a little stressful. She always does. Well, I pride myself on getting to movies before her so I can at least be prepared. But I skipped this one at New York Film Festival. Anyway, what we're talking about is the Bradley Cooper movie, the movie that he directed. It's called Is This Thing On? And it stars Will Arnett and Laura Dern, who's like amazing, obviously.

15:31And as I started calling before the film festival, I was like, this is the midlife crisis that takes a form of stand-up comedy movie that's coming out. So Will Arnett is having sort of like a crisis in his marriage and his life. And he stumbles into a stand-up comedy nightclub in New York and tries his hand at it. And Anna says it's great. We'll take a word for it until we see it. I love the premise of it. Yeah, it sounds really fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently it's really fun. And I think Bradley Cooper's previous two movies, as we know, Stars Born and Maestro. And I've got a lot of time for both those movies.

16:05Oh, me too. I will definitely see this one. Yeah, yeah. We'll be right back after the break.

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16:56From movies to TV. Yeah, so TV, I'm totally behind on. I'm going to have to let you guys take the lead. Well, and you in London, you have a different slate of TV. Like we all see the same things, but sometimes on different schedules. So it's nice to hear like what everyone is watching in London versus what everyone is watching here. Right. You know. Right. I mean, I do think Blue Lights Season 3, is that what we – is that one that's kind of been – It's funny because like Chloe Maul and I get really excited about Blue Lights, which is from the BBC. And it comes over here in America on a service called BritBox, which is actually a great streaming service if you like British TV.

17:33But it's about – the third season comes out. It just came out in the UK. And it comes out here in the U.S. in November. And I got some screeners of it. And I'm really just started it over the weekend. I love this show. It's basically about a group of young police in Belfast. And the city of Belfast, Northern Ireland, is as much a character as these cops, you know. But it's a kind of show that's like a little bit procedural, but you really love it for the characters. And they all, you know, these incipient romances between some of them. They were trainee policemen in the first season. Now they're a little bit more veteran.

18:05but it's great. I really recommend it. So start with season one if you haven't watched Blue Lights before but you will really get caught up in it and you'll be ready for season three. So I'm kind of in like the sticking with shows phase of my TV consumption. So I'm sort of like watching these shows that I started years ago thinking oh maybe one season will be enough and now I'm still with it. So still watching The Diplomat. I've finished season three. The Diplomat season three. It just came out on Netflix. Carrie Russell. She plays the American ambassador to the UK. and Keri Russell is so good.

18:37She's so good. I mean, she just like from Felicity to the Americans, like she has this steely core, but she's kind of like soft around the edges and she's just so good on it. And like the plot is silly, but my husband who actually was a diplomat sort of in a prior life. Yeah, it must be quite interesting to watch it with him. Like he kind of watches over my shoulder sometimes and he's like, this is ridiculous, but he'll still watch it. But he stays on it. And he thinks like it's not that ridiculous. Take it for what it's worth. And then Nobody Wants This season two starring Adam Brody and Kristen Bell.

19:04and you know it's a little I mean again a little silly like a woman who seems to have like never been exposed to Judaism all of a sudden is dating a rabbi and is like what's this all about but it has its charms and it's really fun it's just like guilty pleasure TV it is total guilty pleasure and like the sister dynamic is kind of more an element this season which is also really fun so I can give that a recommendation as well I'm excited for that I know what I'm going to be watching on the plane home now yes And then I also dipped into this show, I believe it was also Netflix, called The Beast in Me, which, you know, it wasn't initially appealing necessarily, but it stars Claire Danes and Matthew Rhys, two actors who I also think are kind of phenomenal.

19:45And it's a little pulpy. It's kind of like Claire Danes plays a writer living this sort of like glamorous but slightly withdrawn life in kind of New York suburbs. And then Matthew Rhys moves next door to her and he's a real estate gajillionaire who's a very brash personality. And they become not friends, not quite enemies, but maybe a bit of both. And it's good. And that comes out soon, right? It comes out like in November. It comes out November 13th. Yeah. Awesome. You're watching ahead. I am watching ahead a little bit, yeah. But I also feel like I'm just, it's the tail end of shows I started.

20:19Guilty pleasure. Can we just say what everyone's buzzing about in The Office, too, which is All's Fair? Oh, yeah, they're doing the premiere this week in London. It's the Ryan Murphy show, the kind of like all-female law firm starring, get this, Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts, Teyana Taylor, Sarah Paulson. It's just an incredible cast. Insane. Insane. I mean, full disclosure, I will not be watching this show, but I am happy it exists. I think the office has only seen the trailer, but the amount of conversation it has prompted is voluminous. Oh, yeah. We've had full content meetings about, like, coverage of All's Fair.

20:51Yeah. So, anyway, a lot of guilty pleasure stuff. There's Emily in Paris coming back. Are you an Emily in Paris viewer? I am. That's another guilty pleasure in mind. I think I've watched every single season. How many have there been? Five. We're deep in it. We're deep in it. I'm still hanging on. I'm still hanging on. I mean, because last time it was set in Rome in Paris, which I thought was quite fun. Yeah. And, you know, I think it's obviously ridiculous, but it's just this TV that you have on in the background or bite size. I like things, short episodes. But what about the outfits? The outfits are why I watch it because they're so disastrous that they're good.

21:27Yeah. Just really stick with it, television. If you're up to season five of Emily in Paris, you've got to respect it. I can't believe it. You've got to respect it. I can't believe it. Yeah. I've even dropped off of Bridgerton, but I've stayed on this. Yeah. I hear, though, that House of Guinness is sort of big. Yes, House of Guinness is huge. In the UK, right? Yeah, it's huge in the UK. We had actually a Guinness write a story about what it's like to be a Guinness, and it completely exploded. It's Stephen Knight who did Peaky Blinders, which is a show I watched all the way to the end and really loved.

21:56And I'm remiss that I haven't gotten to House of Guinness yet. But it's worth checking out. It's worth checking out. I've heard it's really good. I haven't gotten into it yet, guys. I'm very behind. I'm not the right person to talk to about this, but I will say that everybody in the office is obsessed with it. And we keep getting so much love online. It's become a thing. Yeah. I mean, I'm clearly a fan of the wrong Irish show, that being Blue Lights. I think the Irish, the cool Irish show right now is House of Guinness. Right? Okay.