Fashion Month Takeaways, Met Gala Predictions, Movie Recs, and More!

0:28This is The Run Through. I'm Chloe Mal. fashion month as of this week. We are ready to look forward to the movies, shows, books, theater, and more coming out this spring. Of course, we're also going to talk a bit about everything we saw over the collections and all of our Met Gala predictions based on what we saw this fashion month. So buckle up. We're done with winter. That's the message here. That's the takeaway. We're looking forward to the next season. We're going into winter 2025. Oh, from a fashion point of view. Yes, exactly. Good call. Yeah, you can educate all of our listeners about the funky fashion calendar.

1:03Yeah. Anyway.

1:08So let's start with our Vogue Spring News. Our April cover came out on Tuesday. The beautiful Gigi Hadid shot by Annie Lubavitz and styled by Alex Harrington. And written, beautiful piece written by Chloe Shama. Willow, tell us a little behind the scenes because you were instrumental in making this 20s fantasia happen. I'm really happy I wasn't on set because apparently they shot outside in the Bronx with no heaters. So it was a pretty extreme shoot day. And Gigi's a really good sport. Very 1920s. Very 1920s. It was method modeling. Where did the whole idea get started, Willow? The idea got started really from the last collections, the spring collections.

1:46There was a big sort of 20s influence. But then we were also seeing all these people wearing vintage on red carpet. So it was sort of a confluence of vintage and 1920s influence, which Alex wove together into that story. So it's like the 2020s meets the 1920s, right? Exactly, exactly. And so there's this sort of funny but very vogue thing that happens where on the one hand you have like Gigi Hadid as our cover star and then a proper interview and time spent with her that Chloe Shama wrote the profile. And it's all about her being a mom and, you know, these kind of like very personal details. She talks about her relationship with Bradley, which got some pickup.

2:20But then the pictures are like this entirely other narrative. Transport you to 20s and 20s. And between Willow and me, we kind of have the two sides of this story. So I'm responsible for editing the personal side. And then you are right in there with the creation of this like total fantasia that Annie Leibovitz and Alex put together for the shoot. Yeah. And Gigi had just gotten that great haircut too, which I think had sort of had 20s on the brain a bit. She had the perfect sort of 20s hair. I learned the name of that haircut. What was it? From Margot Mbumba. It's a fob. A flipped bob. Oh, I love that.

2:54There you go. I thought a fob was related to keys, but by all means. It could be a Margot creation, but we'll pause on that. You heard it here first. Maybe. But yeah, it really came together. And Gigi's turning 30. So it's sort of a coming of age thing, which I feel like weaves itself into the 20s a little bit. Can you tell us about some of the casting? Because I love when Annie sort of does very relevant casting for historical figures. Right. Well, she's so specific on her references. So the minute she started working on this story, she had very specific images in mind, including these sort of other 20s characters to sort of flesh out this idea of Gigi with other artists.

3:33Like the photographer Edward Steichen. Exactly. Steichen was obviously a huge influence. She's actually nearly recreated some classic Steichen Vogue images in this shoot. But it goes deeper than that. Like, as you were saying, Willow, Gigi is actually cast as Marion Morehouse, who was like, you know, America's first supermodel, they say. But it was the 1920s model who was married to the poet E.E. Cummings. So naturally, Annie has to find her E.E. Cummings. Exactly. Who ended up playing E.E. Cummings? Was that Mike Feist? That was Mike Feist. Excellent. Excellent call, Willow. Yes. So Mike Feist, last seen in Challengers, I think, right?

4:11Yes, exactly. We loved Mike Weiss in Challengers. He is E.E. Cummings looking very like Bohemian and in his like Greenwich Village Garrett apartment with Gigi Adid playing Marion Morehouse, who was his wife in the 30s, sort of laid out on a, you know, settee next to him. And then we had Louis Pullman, too. Right. Louis Pullman plays Steichen himself in a picture of like, you know, a photographer shooting on location as Steichen did back in the era. I really I had to write these captions. When you write these captions, you really can't get it wrong. Because Annie knows what she's doing. And she's like, that's a reference to a very specific Steichen image.

4:48And so you feel like you're working for the Smithsonian or something like that. Yeah. And then we had to find the perfect dress for that cover because she had that cover image cemented in her mind. And we went through many a dress to get to that dress. And she actually removed part of that dress to get that dress to look as it does on the cover. So there was a little customization on set. Annie and then our fashion editor, Alex, in tandem. Scissors out. Oh, yeah. There were scissors involved. Controversial. Brands love when you customize their clothes. Yes, that was a fun conversation. But luckily, the image was beautiful enough to wipe away the trauma of the phone calls that ensued after that happened.

5:23And it looks beautiful. It's a Valentino dress from Alessandro. So there's a great video, too. You can check out on all of our platforms. Harespray. Harespray, yeah. This was a real passion project for Gigi who had been wanting to recreate the iconic dance scene from Hairspray because she was a theater nerd in her youth. I actually laughed out loud. The Cut did a piece titled Gigi Hadid Finds Her Maestro about how. It's pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. The next big Vogue undertaking. Yes. We love an event. We love an event at Vogue. Yes. Tell us what's next. Well, riffing off the Gigi inspired by vintage and wearing some real vintage, we are hosting a vintage market in New York, and there is a companion market happening in London.

6:11Vogue Vintage. Vogue Vintage. So we are taking over in two cities, and we have some incredible pieces from a wide range of celebrity, model, Friends of Vogue, staff of Vogue, designers, staff of Vogue, lots of donations. and in New York, the proceeds will go to benefit victims of the Los Angeles fires. And, Will, I have a question. Is anything coming from the Vogue closet? You know, the funniest part is that the Vogue closet doesn't really house that many things. The Vogue closet is more in and out. It's shipping and receiving, as I call it. So things don't really live in the closet, which is every once in a while I'll get a slack from another publication in the Condé Nast Tower being like, can I come down and borrow something?

6:54I have a TV appearance. And I'm like, there's nothing to borrow. There's nothing to borrow. That's like one of the most misunderstood Vogue. Yeah, the Devil Wears Prada didn't help me with that part of my job. It helped me explain my job to my parents in a myriad of ways, but not understand the Vogue closet. So nothing's really coming from the closet itself. But none of the shoes or anything? No, not really. But we are housing the pieces right now in the closet. So they will be sent from the closet. We're housing those pieces all over the office. Yes. It's crazy. They're making their way around because there's so many great ones.

7:25I saw like a wedding dress in Mark Holgate's office. That is the spirit. Leave your desk for 10 minutes. You'll come back and there'll be like a heap of vintage dresses. So what do you want to buy? Have you found a dress for yourself? I'm not sure I'm the target market for the vintage market, but I'm very happy that it's happening. Levi's has generously donated a rack of vintage denim, which to me is honestly like the highlight because I love vintage Levi's. And actually one of the things I lost in the fires was two pairs of my favorite vintage Levi's from when I was a teenager. So I'm very excited to have everything from that to some Chanel couture making the rounds at the vintage sale.

8:01So come down. It's on Mercer Street at March 29th. Roll and Hill. So how's it work? You have to buy tickets? You buy tickets on the Vogue app. On the Vogue app. Please download the Vogue app. And 100 % of the proceeds goes towards the Entertainment Community Fund.

8:20The run-through will be back in a moment. Thank you.

8:55wherever you listen to podcasts.

9:06And we're back. Now, Peros Fashion Week just wrapped. We were recording this on Wednesday afternoon. I flew home yesterday. We had a wonderful episode last Friday with Nicole Phelps, Mark Holgate, and Vogue France's new head of editorial content, Claire Thompson Jeanville about what they had seen so far. And it was... Well, Chloe, we want your take. Yeah. Oh, thank you, dear. Fresh from the streets. Give us the bird's eye view. What did you make of Paris? What kind of dogs did you see in the streets as the resident dog? Oh, my God, I saw so many doves. How was the Parisian doves? Also, by the way, I sent an email to commercial because I was like, it is a dogment.

9:44It is a dog moment. Oh, I'm sure they loved getting that. And what was their response? Silence. Silence. they've got their filters dialed in they're like oh this is pretty funny but the Beaumarchais which is the iconic department store in Paris actually the first department store ever the entire store which is a beautiful building has been taken over as a dog takeover there are dogs cut out tipping their heads as you walk in on every level and I went by on a Sunday afternoon between shows and everyone was there with their dogs in their little outfits. It was a joy. It was a delight. You can custom make dog pottery.

10:25You can get dog clothing embroidered. Anyway. Did you see any humans? I saw a few humans. What was your favorite show? I liked the sort of the kookier shows that felt like they just went for it. Like Kodakova was a completely kind of bonkers show. Like models. It was a bit Emperor's New Clothes where you were like, what's happening here? A model was walking down wearing a viola. Another model was wearing a drum as a skirt. There were belts hanging off everywhere. That was one of my big trends, belts where they shouldn't be. Okay. Belts on bags, belts on dresses. But also it just felt exciting and like something new.

11:02Right. And Rodakova is one of the big new young French designers who's really making a stamp on Paris Fashion Week and bringing a little youthful energy to a week that was a little stagnant. Yeah, it felt like a little like punk and old school. And the same energy was definitely there at Duran Lantink, who everyone say is on his way to a new job. And he showed in an office building and they had this amazing thing of desks set up with people stapling and shuffling papers and then singing sort of odd cutting edge opera-ish things. And then the show started and it was, as I'm sure everyone saw on Instagram, a man wearing silicone enormous breasts and a woman wearing a male silicone breast top.

11:48But then also kooky trousers and bottomless pants and everything just sort of it played into this theme of the week that was sort of subversive workwear or workwear with a twist. Taylor looks concerned. Yeah. No, I can't wait. I can't wait to see more subversive workwear at Vogue HQ. Well, there was some feeling that since Condé Nast just started instituting their four-day work week and there was a lot of talk about severance and Elyse Taylor wrote a really fun article about the way— Meaning the show Severance? Yeah. I think the pacing of that was specific. Yeah, yeah. Workwear was definitely something people talked about a lot.

12:31It was Stella McCartney that had the headline afterwards, Laptop to Lap Dance, I believe, right? Stella McCartney also had her show in an office building. What did you think about that, Willow? I mean, there was so much office looks, some of which I do hope to not see in my own office thing. Because as a manager, I think we'd have to have conversations. So I would like to avoid. But no, I mean, there was great. Everything from Prada to Stella sort of talked about office wear. Even Givenchy and Tom Ford, there was some of that. But, you know, obviously the two big debuts of the season were Givenchy and Tom Ford, Sarah Burton's first show.

13:06She had a very small show at the Givenchy headquarters. People were rapturous about it. She got a standing ovation. Hyder Ackerman at Tom Ford the day before. People loved that show. It felt like the Tom Ford brand had really just been reinvigorated in a way that people hadn't seen in a long time. Cool to see Tom there. And that big hug at the end was very sweet from the two of them. It felt like a real symbiotic moment. And Sarah, there was a lot of conversations around women dressing women, right, in this era where there's so much work. There is a conversation about workwear and sort of what is the take on workwear from someone like Sarah Burton and Mrs.

13:43Prada and Stella versus just sort of sexy suiting. Yeah, and I would say that, and this is something that Claire said in the podcast, that it was like a feeling of big feminine energy this season. It was very much a moment for female designers sort of leaning in and taking ownership of that. Well, that's exciting, right? I mean, it was just last year that we were all sort of lamenting the lack of women in creative directorships around European fashion houses. So that's a big shift then. I would say the two, three big front row trends were Dochi, who had some crazy makeup looks throughout Fashion Week.

14:21She went through a transformation every day. Doji went from being like in a bit of a like a chop situation at D squared in Milan to barefoot at Chloe. Barefoot at the barefoot goddess at Chloe. And then a totally different Valentino. It was Valentino Couture at the Louvre dinner. Yes. And Chapel Rhone was absolutely the star of Paris Fashion Week. Wow. So those two have really been embraced by. Oh, my gosh. Very exciting. Chapel was at everything. Yeah. And looking completely different at everything. Transformation at every turn. Totally. The biggest takeaway from Paris Fashion Week for me was the parlor game that became like sports team trading where every conversation I was in, whether it was a car to a show, a drink after show, was who is going to Gucci?

15:09When is Loewe being announced? When is Simone Belotti going to be announced for Joe Sander leaving Bali? A lot of debate about is Hedy Slimane going to be going to Gucci or is it going to be Demna? There's nothing fashion people love more than a rumor. So it's like everybody has their fantasy football teams, but it's fashion designers. Yes, it's exactly that. It's fantasy fashion teams. And everyone's like, do I have my lineup set for all the changes that are coming? I mean, the Met Gala is looming, and that's looming in a good way. I mean, we're all abuzz here with our sort of May issue, which is dedicated to it.

15:42I'm so excited about the May issue. The May issue is really something. I'm excited for everyone to see it. I was not in Paris and I was actually on a set for one of our big May stories, which was very exciting. And one of the things I can say about all the May stories that I find really exciting is the amount of jewelry we have. Oh, so much jewelry. so much jewelry and going into the Met, like... Big broach energy. Big broach energy, big ring energy, big earrings. I mean, there's one thing about shooting more men and more men in tailoring that has brought out some really incredible jewelry. And I think we're going to see some really wonderful pieces that we haven't really seen before who have been in archives for the Met.

16:20And I think that's pretty exciting. Right. So it's a huge tailoring moment in the issue with Super Fine, which is the Costume Institute exhibition that the Met Gala is opening, being dedicated to menswear and tailoring. it really, we really went there in the issue. So I'm excited to talk about that. But that's on the horizon. We'll stop now before we get ahead of ourselves. Yeah. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with our spring culture preview.

16:57Hi, I'm Rebecca Ford. senior awards correspondent at Vanity Fair and co-host of Little Gold Men. Oscar season is upon us. Little Gold Men takes you behind the scenes of the race for the biggest prize in Hollywood. There's a hundred wrestlers in the room, but only one can be Oscar nominated. Whether you're a movie lover or an industry buff, Little Gold Men from Vanity Fair has everything you need to know about this year's Oscar race. Follow and listen to Little Gold Men wherever you get your podcasts.

17:33What else is on the horizon? So many things. I love a spring culture preview. Me too. Me too. I was diving into the New Yorkers and New York magazines and I was like, I'm excited for our own. Especially when my culture and your culture like have – Different cultures. No. And Willow, I'm really interested to hear about your culture. So we've had different people on for these culture previews. Yes. And you are something of a, you know, a closed book to me, except for the fact that just, you know, when it comes to your cultural consumption, except for the fact that Willow and I bonded early on our adoration.

18:09Lioness? No. What? Chloe. No. Of our love of the Netflix show, Drive to Survive. Don't you have a group chat with Irene and Corey? There is a low-key, huge Formula One fan base in the Vogue office. Huge, yes. Started during the pandemic. Yes. Yes. I do attribute it to this show to some extent. Oh, no, 100%. It all started with the show. Yeah, no, this show, Seven Seasons, it sort of pioneered this kind of like docu-sport series craze that we're living in now, but does it better than just about any other example. They're all made by the same production company, interestingly, which is called like Box to Box Productions.

18:42They are so good at this thing, which is like they follow different storylines throughout a sports season, really make you care about the characters. They're like villains and heroes. And the great thing about Formula One, obviously, is that the locations are just so glamorous and so outsized. Yeah. But also the characters are really interesting to get hooked into because there's only ever 20 drivers. There's so many people that work in the sport, but there's 10 team principals and there's 20 drivers. So even though they're in helmets and they're in cars, you get to know them really well because there's just not that many of them.

19:12So that's airing now on Netflix. And then there's another show that I'm hopeful I can get you excited about, Chloe. I know, I know. It's hard. It's hard with you. If it's not like Brit Box, Agatha Christie, Towards Zero. I was just going to say that. I know. I have it in my notes. That trailer looked good. I feel like I'm really the intersection of the two of you. Somehow I'm interested in both these. Oh, intersection is generous. Angelica Houston and Agatha Christie. What more does one want? I watched this trailer and I was like, this is going to give Chloe and me something to talk about. No, maybe this is more highbrow than you're interested in, Chloe.

19:49But Wolf Hall. Oh, I'm excited about that. It's so good. You've already watched? I have watched. But I feel like the other ones were so far away that I need to like re-watch the old ones now. That's right. Let's explain what we're talking about. The Hilary Mantel novels about Henry VIII and the, you know. Thomas Cromwell. Thomas Cromwell and the King Henry's many wives that all met their demise. And Mark Rylance. Right. So these books were sort of Titanic books that came out, what, 10 years ago or something like that, even more. and then they were made into a TV series, the first two, Wolf Hall, bringing up the bodies.

20:21Mark Rylance plays Cromwell and Damian Lewis, who is so good. This is great for me because I was watching an old show called The White Princess. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Totally. With Jodie Comfort. Yeah. Anyway, I have one more for you, Chloe. Okay. I am not a Star Wars nerd by any stretch. I grew up with the original movies. I watched them like every other self-respecting boy in the 80s, But I'm here to – don't pay attention to any of the, like, expanded universe series, Disney Plus shows, all of that except one. And the first season was called Andor and it came out in 2022. Second season of Andor is coming out next month in April.

20:58It's created by Tony Gilroy, he of Michael Clayton. This show is written like a spy drama. It just happens to be set on, like, planet Andor. It's so good. Everyone who's watched this has said, oh, you're right. This is, like, a really mature, interesting show. It's got Diego Luna in it, Stellan Skarsgård, Fiona Shaw, Denise Goff. I really recommend it. You guys got to watch it. You know what I'm excited about is Deli Boys. That's out now. I know. It just came out. I haven't watched it yet because I was away. But I'm very excited to. It's created by Abdullah Saeed, who is a comedian and follows two Pakistani-American brothers whose lives take an unexpected turn when they find out where their father's business dealings really lie.

21:38But it's very funny. And so that is something I'm excited to watch. and obviously Agatha Christie towards zero. When does that come out though? April, mid-April, April 16th maybe. Put it on the calendar. Yeah. Yeah. It's like an alert goes off. He's gone home for the day. That's on BritBox too, which is like our low key favorite streamer around here. I love BritBox. No ads. Okay, Taylor, tell us about what movies we're excited about. Well, Black Bag opens this Friday. Yeah, you were very bullish on Black Bag. I'm bullish on Black Bag. So I'm a Soderbergh fan. Do you guys like Steven Soderbergh?

22:14Yes, I do. I mean, he's made like 32 movies at this point. So that's something I like about him is how prolific he is. And like last year, we had a really cool movie called Presence that was a ghost story that he directed. Now we have this like fun chamber espionage drama called Black Bag with like none other than Michael Fassbender and Cate Blanchett as this kind of like married couple at the center of it. They're both British intelligence spies and they basically suspect each other of being in on a plot. It's all a little bit complex and hard to follow in some ways, but you don't care because it looks so good.

22:46It moves so quickly, like 90 minutes. It is very concise. I do appreciate the conciseness of the spy thriller. And everyone looks really good in it, right? Isn't Cate Blanchett wearing like all, you know. She's wearing a lot of Chloe. Yeah. Yeah. What other movies are we excited about? So I have mixed feelings about this, but I do feel that I need to note the last of the Mission Impossible movies is coming out this May. Mission Impossible colon The Final Reckoning. I'm also excited about this film called Bring Her Back, which is by the directors Danny and Michael Philippou, who had like a real hit horror movie with a movie called Talk to Me that was out in 2022.

23:23And the trailer for this one looks super scary. And it stars Sally Hawkins, who we all love. and I think this is going to be, I mean, Talk to Me was one of the like hits of that summer because it was kind of a smaller film that like built a real buzz and so there are a lot of people who are excited about this movie. And then one more, in June, Wes Anderson returns. So where are we on Wes Anderson, you guys? I love. I love, always. Okay. Well, this one's called The Phoenician Scheme. It is also has, I mean, he doesn't really release many details about his plots or all ensemble casts like this one is too, but apparently it has a kind of espionage plot line and it stars.