How Alex Consani Manifested Her Vogue Cover

24:30Like, I'm very like, hey, I love this. Can I have this? Which works to my benefit because I don't need to buy as many clothes as maybe someone else. But that's one thing that I'm definitely frugal about. Like, it hurts me sometimes to go to the row and look at the price. I'll still get it. It's painful. But I have to be a bit careful with that. Does it work when you ask people if you can have things? I bet it does. Oh, my God. It does work a bit, honestly, because that's what I always say. Closed mouths don't get fed. There you go. There you go. Where's to live by? Exactly. Speaking of the row, you're doing the Olsen tuck right now.

25:05You're the hair tuck. I am doing the Olsen tuck. I've been inspired, honestly. I saw them for the first time at the CFDAs this year. Really? Yeah. I mean, I've never, I've never, I didn't meet them, but I saw them for the first time. From a distance. Yeah. What was it like? Chic. It was very chic. I was like, I watched them walk on the stage and I was like, oh. I'm like tucking in my hair like, oh. No, they're major. They're really major. What did you wear to the CFDAs? I wore Michael Kors. Yeah, I wore the silk dress and a bag. And last minute I checked the bag in the car and grabbed a coat and dragged the coat down the carpet.

25:41It was kind of a sad moment for the coat, but a good moment for me. We've talked about how you choose not to use a stylist. Could you maybe expand on why? Yeah, I mean, let me be clear. I definitely do use a stylist. That CFDA moment was styled by my friend Dogi, a really amazing stylist who I've worked with a bit. But for me, I feel like styling in moments outside of, like, red carpet can get stressful because there's so much politics in styling, right? I think when you're styling, getting styled by somebody else, there's so much more strategy that I don't think about. Like, as a model, right, there's brands that people want to work with.

26:16It's like, oh, do I want to wear this brand that I haven't worked with to then induce a relationship with whatever? and that's great and it's smart but like sometimes a bitch just wants to put on clothes and go out and feel fabulous you know what I mean and I think that the opportunity to do that myself has given me a lot more confidence in clothing that I wear and it's given me a lot more personal sense of style and it also allows me to be a bit more like downtown in a way because I notice sometimes when I do get styled it feels so put together and there's so many elements to the outfit and there's so many people on the team and it's so much opinions on the look and it's like I think the beauty of fashion like we've talked about is expression.

26:54I think that to have an outfit that you've planned for weeks or months and then you put it on, you're like, oh, I actually would rather not wear this today. It gets difficult because like you have these promises to so many people that you're going to wear a specific look. So I don't know. I think that like for as long as I can imagine myself wearing clothes, I'll definitely be trying to do as much as I can by myself. You're a big heels person. Tell me they're the first thing you're going to unpack when you move in. Do you plan an outfit, heels up? How does the shoe factor into your outfit planning?

27:28Okay, well, usually what I do is I start with shirt, and then I go shoe, and then I go pant to match the shoe and the shoe. Very risky business. It is kind of risky business. But you know what? I love a pant. I love a long pant with a shoe, with a heel, a pointed heel. So I feel like that's a tendency I like to do. What's the heel, the pointy toe heel, and the rotation right now? The new Conor Ives Jimmy II. Have you seen it? Yeah, they're really good. It's really fab. And it's nice because my friends who are shoe thieves that are my same size love to take it. And I'm like. Who are some shoe thieves?

27:59I hear you and Paloma are the same size shoe. We are the same size shoe. And that's been a bit of difficulty. But it's okay. I mean, honestly, she knows where to hide her things away from me. So it's good. What are the most comfortable heels? Like if you're going dancing. Yeah. Going dancing. I feel like Manolo Blahniks are always pretty comfortable. Yeah, I do too. That's my Met shoe. Yeah. Because I can be standing on, like, marble for seven hours. Yeah, and the heels are a bit square now. Am I crazy for that? Like, even if I get stilettos, the base is square, which I think gives me a bit more stability than a circle.

28:32Because also I tend to wear the circle down quite a lot, and then I end up stepping on the nail, and it sounds insane. I hate that. My heel fell off my row boot yesterday, and it was just like, every step. Especially when you're walking through marble. I'm like, damn, girl, it's like an announcement. Everyone's hearing me. A lot of click-clacking. Literally. One of our colleagues, Florence O 'Connor, said that her fashion resolution is to wear more heels next year. If you have any advice for the newly initiated heel wearers, what would it be? Okay. Well, if you're not wearing heels currently because of comfort, I think you should definitely find a heel that's comfortable because there's a lot of them.

29:06I think Jude, the brand Jude, makes a lot of really comfortable. I love my Jude. They make a lot of really comfortable heels. The Roe, obviously, has great heels. But I think it's something that isn't too, the leather isn't too hard because that's obviously difficult. You want to wear something that's comfortable. And just do it, girl. I love a kitten heel. It's good entry level. But I have a hot take on a kitten heel. I think kitten heels are harder to walk in than six inch heels. Because your foot is less like pointed. So it feels like you're kind of almost balancing on like the weird level of your tiptoes.

29:40You know when you're like on your tiptoes? Like you're kind of in between. Yeah. You're not over the ball of your foot. It tends to wobble a bit. That's interesting. Yeah. That's true. There is a lot of stability, I guess, in being up on your toe. Because the walk is on the toe versus it being half on the heel, half on the toe, and then you end up like... All right. So maybe it's not as much of a gateway drug as I thought. No. Well, I guess we'll all be wearing six-inch stilettos this year. I'm telling you, that's the most comfortable way to do it. When we all come back in our... January Screams heels.

30:08Oh, God. Oh, yes. You're going to be judging through the snow with those heels. Awful. So one thing that we also discussed a little bit is your, like, style evolution and how, you know, when I was talking to Dara Allen, the stylist, about you, she said that you come up to her sometimes and you say, I'm doing chic now. Yeah. And I know you haven't always been as, you know. Chic. No, no, no. Not that you're not chic, but I know you've had qualms with the word or the meaning. Yes, yes, yes. of chic. So can you tell me a little bit? Well, chic can feel lady-like. Exactly. And it doesn't have to. So what were your qualms with chic and how did you kind of get to this point where you are embracing chic?

30:50Yeah, well, my qualms with chic at the beginning was, again, like you were saying, it felt a bit too, not conservative, but I guess conservative. I had an aversion to that because me being obviously like a hyper feminine person, I thought that you couldn't have the same level of femininity while wearing something like that. And as I grew into my job in fashion, And also, I'll talk about this in a second, but as I grew up into my job in fashion, I realized that, like, there's so many different facets of femininity in fashion. And to constrain yourself to just wearing clothing that makes you feel exposed isn't always the best way to do it.

31:22And I think for me, what I realized chic is is chic is the ability to pair something extra with something that isn't as flashy, if that makes sense. and I was talking about this with someone else also because like Malina actually yesterday we were talking about how I have a tendency to wear really big baggy clothing that covers me up and I think it's because as I've worked more in fashion I've realized that like the clothes and the body and everything is always so prevalent that being able to wear something like a Mary Kay Ashley tuck in a jean is it feels like I'm having a fab day off and so I enjoy doing those moments and I think that kind of living in that world has kind of made me more chic.

32:03Also, since I learned about Norma Jean, you know Norma Jean? Say more. Norma Jean is Marilyn Monroe before she became Marilyn Monroe. Oh, sure. That Norma Jean. Norma Jean, Norma Jean. So, I like a couple years ago, I had this like soft obsession turning into Norma Jean. I used to love Elton John's Goodbye Norma Jean. Yeah. There we go. Well, we're saying hello to Norma Jean now. We're saying hello to Norma Jean now. Wow, okay. What about Norma Jean? There's this picture of her with, like, high-water jeans. Oh, I know what you're talking about. She's sitting on the show. That picture truly changed my life.

32:37I think that, like, her essence of femininity while not being— Can you describe the picture to those who don't know? Okay, so to the listeners, the picture is Marilyn Monroe wearing a Capri— Sorry, Norma Jean wearing a Capri pant. She has her, like, I want to say one leg or both legs up on the chair so you can see that they're high-water Capris. And I think she's wearing some sort of wrap coat. um and but cropped cropped cropped rapco and it was just it's just such a effortlessly beautiful picture she looks like she isn't trying at all but it's it captures such an essence of femininity that i saw and i was like i don't want to be in my like y2k get up like like boobs and butt out for the rest of my life and i mean obviously i'm not going to stop doing that ever but i think that it was a really beautiful realization for me that like there's so many different facets of myself and different facets of expression that I can have within fashion.

33:28And, like, that specific picture really inspired me to kind of take it there, you know? When did you first see that picture? I actually was going through my camera roll from 2015, and I had the screenshot from 2015. Wow. But I rediscovered. You're manifesting. That was literally when I was, like, 12. No, but I rediscovered it in my 20s, and I was like, wow, it's really time for me to take it there. Take it there. Take it to 9 o 'clock. What do you think, like, spoke to 12-year-old Alex about this photo? I think just seeing—I love my favorite type of picture of any celebrity is them in an off setting, them on an off day.

34:04I think that that takes so much—because I think that it's difficult to really understand somebody when they're on a pedestal in the way that, like, Marilyn or, like, I don't know, Michael Jackson, all these other people are on. So to see them in a moment of, like, stillness within themselves is really important and special to me. Like I have this picture of Jackie O in my saves as well where she's like walking out of like some diner or something. It's just a really like it's a really beautiful picture because it captures the essence of the person, which is kind of also what I wanted to bring into this issue, which is what was so special was that like me and Ethan were talking and it was like it wasn't about the pose.

34:40It wasn't about the like being on. It was about almost the being off. And like it was about you. It was about me. Yeah. But it was also just like the essence of existing. That was the word that he said, the essence of existing. He makes things so moody. Yeah. Yeah, he's fab. He's really fab. What are some holy grail items on your wish list right now? Holy grail items on my wish list. God, that's a hard question. I feel like I'm looking, I'm still looking for a really nice short crotch low rise, not low rise, but like to the hip jean, vintage, fucked up, really nice worn in jean. And then what else?

35:20I'm always on the hunt for a fab dress. What's your vintage go-to? I feel like you have some great vintage pieces that you've worn to big events. Thanks. I love a vintage Prada. I feel like vintage. But, like, what is vintage now? It's 20 years ago. It's 20 years and older. Yeah, so I love, like, a 90s Prada. I love an early 2000s Prada. Where do you find those? A lot of different places. I love Nuovo in Paris. They have a lot of really nice places or nice things. There's one shop in L.A. that, unfortunately, I hate to be a gatekeeper, but it is so it's like the most holy grail and if people came in there and took all the things that I wanted I'd be so upset but don't say it then I won't but it's just really really fab there's a lot of good shopping in LA which surprised me because I feel like I don't know if you guys have noticed this or if when you were in you were in Vogue World LA obviously we were with Angelinos yeah exactly so if you notice but there's this like essence of quiet luxury that's come into LA for some reason it's kind of different and with that everyone's getting rid of their fab extravagant stuff so Oh, hot take.

36:19Yeah, so I'm seeing a lot of really fabulous statement pieces. Low key for the low. Like, it's not as expensive as I would think to get. Because, like, you shop in New York and you go to a curated place and it's like you're spending, like,$1 ,000 on a dress when you could be in L.A. looking at some 30-year-old girl's, like, ex-looks that are fab. You know? Take advantage of the quiet luxury takeover. Scoop up their 90s Prada. Exactly, girl. Exactly. The run-through will be back in a moment.

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37:40Alex, I want to know how your relationship to social media has evolved. Do you still have fun making videos, posting content? Does it ever feel like a job or a chore anymore nowadays? Yeah, I mean, I definitely love social media, so I'm on it all the time. I think that, like, my social media presence has changed since I've realized that people see it, which is something I hate to say. But, like, I remember I posted a video. I don't remember what video it was. It was something, like, maybe Versace or something. I don't remember. And Donatello was, like, saw the video. And I was like, oh. Whoa. I was like, oh, people watch my stuff.

38:12And that was where I was like, okay, I need to take a step back and, like, think about what I'm posting, which kind of put a little bit of a block, which I don't love. I know. It's hard because it's like I used to just post stupid pictures of my kids, and now I'm like more people follow me, and so I feel like it's like it has to be endearing. It's a journey that I think, like, I'm still coming into, and I really like social media because it gives me a voice. But I think the most powerful way to use my voice now isn't to just, like, post funny stuff. I think that there's so many other ways to use social media.

38:39And so I'm trying to do my best to really save my effort and energy when I post into something that is making a statement in a way that I want, if that makes sense. But it is kind of sad because I really do enjoy posting. I just think that the hecticness of the last year of my life has really—it's changed a lot of my time that I have to be myself and do the things that I like. and I think it's better to not post in those moments because I think things are truly funny when you think that they're funny in the moment and you post it, you know, so. Yeah. What content are you consuming on social? Like, where are you spending your time?

39:17I love TikTok. I love Instagram Reels because I see the craziest shit. What's your algorithm? My algorithm is insane. I'm trying to think. It's just insane. Like, it's a lot of the AI backcracking videos. Have you seen these? No. Oh, it's like masseuses, and they'll be like, now breathe in. And then they push, and the table breaks, and they fall 10 stories down. It's like that kind of stuff. A lot of AI, which is really scary because for the longest time, I didn't realize it was AI. You were talking about that last night. It's getting quite good. It's a bit concerning. I know. Everyone fell for that bunny video.

39:52Yeah. What bunny video? Oh, my God. Bunnies on a trampoline. And it was like night fishing. Yeah. My mom was really moved. I was like, oh. What a bummer to be like, I hate to break it. I was like, yeah, they're crazy. That was AI? That was AI? Yeah. Wow. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're getting us good. It's good to be skeptical now. Yeah, definitely. Of people falling 10 stories through their massage table. I mean, that one, I'm like, girl, you can't crack someone's back and push them 10 stories down. That's like Hulk smashing someone to the floor. It's insane. Well, speaking of Vogue World, as we were a moment ago.

40:25Yeah. Your parents were there. You flew them down for the occasion, which is so lovely. Can you tell me about the last time they saw you work? The last time they saw me work was during Paris Fashion Week. They came to a Nina Ritchie show, the one that I opened and closed, which was a really special moment. Yeah, and Harris gave them like a really nice seat and the whole experience. And yeah, I mean, it's really special when they see me work because I feel like I feel their presence when I'm walking, when I'm doing something, which is really special because having that parental love is always a good feeling, and it makes me want to work harder.

41:03Yeah. You styled them for Vogue World, which I love. I did. They looked so fab. Yeah, they really did. How did that work? Did you go shopping with your mom? Did you get your dad his shirt? Yeah. Okay, well, so I'll start with my mom. I know we were going to Vogue. I wanted my parents to meet Anna, and I know she loves the floral, so I gave my mom a floral Prada dress. I know she also loves Prada. And this dress, actually, I wore to the Kendall and Gigi Vogue event. Yeah. And Anna told me I liked it, and so I was like, Mom, you can wear it. So she's a loved Prada dress in the collection. Got it.

41:38And then I gave her a little Prada collection. I tried to get her to wear Prada heels, but she found out it was going to be a bit cobblestone-y. She was like, just give me some flats. So I gave her these really cute Marnie flats. And then my dad, I actually brought a coat for him from J.W. Anderson for him to wear. And he put it on and was like, and my mom was like, and so he's like, what if I wear this? And he pulls out the Protect the Doll shirt out of his closet, which he bought himself, which is really sweet. I mean, my parents always are swagged out in the trans merch, which is really special.

42:09Your mom's Instagram photo is a trans mafia hat. Oh, my gosh. She's in it. She's in it for sure. I remember she would drop me off to school and these custom converse that she made that said, it was like proud, transparent. And they were like, all trans and the soul was trans flagged. It's like very, very supportive people. That's so sweet. Wow. Yeah. So. What are your most active friend group chats? My most active friend group chats? It's my two best friends, Faith and Sasha. We just talk all the time in that. And then there's another one that's always pretty active from this Mexico vacation I went on earlier in the year.

42:47And that sometimes we always just randomly get messages and it's like, hey. So I feel like that. Any good names of your chats? I mean, my friends, my best friends are both in Bushwick and they're both lesbians. So it's the Bushwick lesbian group chat. So that's a good one. I don't think the other ones might not be good for a podcast. They're fun. They're spicy. We have some fun. We have some fun in the group chats. I was so excited when I learned from Hannah's piece that you are interested in writing and directing. How do you foster this? Are you practicing this? Are you doing any classes? How do you make sure that's happening?

43:23Yeah, well, I mean, it's been a big want, especially recently, because I've found a lot of value in creating a narrative for myself. Because, again, fashion is very selling another person's image. So, I mean, I've definitely done some writing. My mom's a writer, so, like, she definitely inspired me a bit. And I've been writing a memoir and a bit of, like, I don't want to say too much because it's supposed to be an anonymous piece. But I have a couple things that I've been writing. And that really created this idea in my head about, like, you know, creating a show. And recently I've been given the opportunity to meet with a lot of people in L.A., a lot of, like, studios and production people, whatever.

44:03And it's been a really nice conversation. around that and actually at the CFDA Awards I was sitting next to Anna and Anna Michael and James Corden and me and James got into it he was like so how are you how's your life what are you doing and I was like oh I've actually been wanting to write and direct and produce and whatever get into the behind the scenes of making making film and he was like so what's it about and I told him and he's like so what's it about I'm like I'm telling you so what's it about and it was good it was a really nice constructive conversation because honestly I needed a bit more structure in that.

44:34And since then, we've been texting and talking and kind of working out. We love that. The group chat with Anna and James Corden. It was fab. I mean, Anna's not in the group chat. Anna's not in the group chat, but it's me and James Corden. That would be fab. What would you call it?

44:49Manifest. I don't know. Project manifest, girl. Project manifest. Because it was really interesting. Anna kept looking over when I was talking about it, and I was like... She wants a guest spot on that show. Exactly, exactly. I mean, listen, the concept is fashion-centered, so I don't doubt she wouldn't want to help. You know, she's a very open person when it comes to helping out with projects like that. That's true. Yeah, but it's interesting, and it's hard because also there's so much going on in my life already right now, like with the fashion industry. But there's a really amazing opportunity that's coming up where I might be able to take a step back and focus full-time on film, which is nice.

45:22Wow. That's exciting. Yeah. Can you tell us about some of your favorite films? Are you on Letterboxd? I'm not on Letterboxd. I need to. What's the last movie you saw that you loved? What's the one with Dakota Johnson? Materialist? Materialist. I loved that movie. That was really good. What else did I watch? I really want to watch Wicked. All my friends are dying about it. People are really invested now. We had a lot of conversation about the sweater yesterday. Yeah, everyone's been talking about the sweater. Do you have a sexy knit? I do have a sexy knit. Actually, what induced the conversation is I have this Margella knit coat that I like dropped in a pile, not puddle, but like in a pile of leaves.

46:02And I picked it up and didn't take the leaves off, and they're like crushed up in the thing. My friend was like, oh, my God, girl, you have the Wicked Jacket. I was like, no. Oh, my God. No, but it's fab. Like the wear on that coat is quite stank. It's quite stank. Sometimes people ask about like a dream dinner party guest, but I want to know what your dream film project lineup is. Like who's the director? Who are the co-stars? Yeah, would you act in it? Honestly? Directing, writing? acting in it? I mean, it's hard because I'm still kind of getting introduced to a lot of the film world, but as of now, I feel like, I mean, I love the way that Tim Burton makes visuals seem a bit quirky, so I would love to do that, maybe me and Tim together, doing a little something.

46:49And I think the people who would star in it, I would love it to be a cast of people that I know and love because I understand my friends and I understand their ability to act. my friend True Whitaker she's in she's great I love LA she's fabulous she's in I love LA I would love for her to be in that she's such a star in that she's such a star and she's also like such a character outside of the work she does which is really amazing I love Molly Gordon I think she's really amazing I love Molly Gordon I would love for her to be a part of that and maybe selfishly I would love to get the Olsen twins back out I'm like bring them out girl and let's do full the row fuller house everything I'm saying fullest house fullest of the row in the house girl That's what I'm trying to do.

47:28So, incredible. You have done some appearances and some music videos. So we have JT's OK. Of course, you were in 360 with Charli XCX and her It Girl Posse. And recently, you were in Doja Cat's Gorgeous video. Can you tell us about being on a music video set? Do you have any standout memories? Yeah. I feel like it's always fun to do, especially when it's like a bigger group of people. OK was an amazing video because, obviously, I love JT. and it's been, we've been friends and she's always been a big supporter of me and people like me, which is really beautiful. But also my friend was doing the makeup.

48:04My other friend was directing it. So it felt very, very close to home. The only thing about that shoot was the call time was 2 a.m. What? Oh my God. Which was quite an interesting call time for a show. Did you even go to bed? I slept early. I went to bed at like 8, woke up at 12 and was like, okay, let's be like video vixens now. And Charli XCX was so much fun because I was in LA and I was like invited to do the music video. And I'm so happy I did because that was such an amazing memory. And also working with Aiden Zimiri, he's really, really talented. He has an amazing head on his shoulders and an amazing creative ability that I think I really got to see firsthand with that music video.

48:48and it was also just a really amazing moment to kind of celebrate women and celebrate girls that maybe don't have all the flowers that they deserve and I think Charlie really put that together in a beautiful way and then Joja Cat Gorgeous obviously was such a it was such a fab moment Ignacio from Vogue did the casting which was really beautiful and my friend Jawara did the hair and Sam Vissu did the makeup and it felt really gorgeous Everyone was feeling confident and beautiful. And what's different about fashion and film to music videos is that the premise of being in a music video is to feel good, to feel sexy, to feel gorgeous.

49:30And it's always nice to get glammed with your girls and just sing along to songs you love. I heard you had a really great playlist yesterday on your cover shoot. Can you tell us a little bit about what's on there, what's in the heavy rotation lately? Yes, yes. I have been listening to a lot of I'm a very 70s 80s music type of girl I think there's a lot of extraness to that that I love I love the like drawn out you know drawn out facets of that kind of music but I think for me what was really on that playlist the most was Rick James love me some Rick James and also what else was on that Celine Dion I was seeing Celine Dion on the way here and my driver I was like looking over he was like are you good like I was literally like But yeah, I don't know.

50:17I love a vocal. I love a vocal moment. It sounds like that might also be part of your dream. Maybe one day. Maybe it'll be a Broadway experience. Yeah, a Broadway movie. Make it a musical theater. I would love. I mean, my aunt is a musical theater teacher. Oh, wow. Do you have a favorite musical? I actually watch the Cats, but the drag one. What's it called? Oh, Jellicle Ball. Oh, my God. Fab. We were just talking about that. It's going to Broadway. Yeah, fab. I watched it when it was off Broadway. It was major, I'm saying. Yeah. We're manifesting. But Ballroom is such a beautiful thing, especially in my community.

50:52And it was really special to see. That was my first ever musical I ever went to. Wow. And it was major. Everyone was so excited. There were fans snapping, popcorn flying. Like, it was major. Alex, we're going to let you go in a minute. But I want to hear what's your inspo for decorating your new house. What's on the mood board? Well, I don't know if you guys have seen Paloma Alsasser's video. I'm familiar. She had this video house tour with Architectural Digest, and it was really an insane inspiration to me. I think she has amazing taste, but also talking with her, understanding what I personally like.

51:29I think that leaning into more Melanie's style where it's eccentric and it's fun and it's kooky, but it has a base layer of coziness. you know it has the grandness and the extraness but you pair it with something that's a bit a bit more relaxed and that's kind of something that I want I think what I'm trying to do is just have nice pieces that I can like hold on to for a second that are comfortable I haven't ever had a comfortable couch in my life important it's very important my current couch fully broke so you sit in it and you touch the ground love that for me where is it from um well don't don't call people out okay sorry it's from facebook marketplace and i got it for a hundred dollars i was still in my frugal era and i literally picked it up in it like in uber uber x and i was like can i please fit this in there and they were like babe no and then it was the day i don't know if you remember this there was this day where the bridge i mean i guess you guys both live in the city no okay so you would know the day that the bridge got shut down there was something that happened on the bridge and i was sitting in this uber x on a couch like this on the for three hours girl.

52:35Three? Yes. And then I took it out, sat on it and it broke. I was like, oh, classic. So I'm excited to move on. I would love like a little 70s cheetah print couch. Let's get some white glove delivery. White glove delivery. I'm telling you, girl, I'm leveling up. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. Well, Alex, thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for leveling up at Vogue. Okay. I mean, thanks for leveling me up. It was an honor to talk with you guys and I'm so excited for everyone to see the issue that is about to come out. It's going to be really major.

53:07That's it for the show today. See you next week.

53:15The Run-Thru is produced by Chelsea Daniel, Alex DePalma, and Stephanie Kariuki. It's engineered by Pran Bandy and James Yost. It is mixed by Mike Kuchman. Chris Bannon is Conde Nast's head of Global Audio.

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