Nikki Glaser Won’t Be Roasting Anyone at the Golden Globes (Or Will She?)

0:05Welcome to a very special Friday episode of The Run Through. It is special for two reasons. First of all, we have the Golden Globes host, Nikki Glaser, with us today. And she told us all about her transition from Roast Queen to Awards host. Fun fact, it's the first time a solo woman has ever hosted the Globes, which is wild to me. Okay. Because we think of Tina Fey and Amy Poehler, but no woman has ever done it alone, which is kind of wild. That is wild. And it was amazing and sort of fascinating to hear how she's preparing, what she's planning to wear. what celebrity she thinks she owes an apology to.

0:41So stay tuned for that. And secondly, today is extremely special because, drumroll, we have Ms. Chomenotti here in the flesh. Well, hello. Welcome, Choma, in one of her artfully distressed cardigans. Is this Blenciaga too? No, this is Margiela, men's. Oh, it's so good. It's like a hand. The last of them, right? Because John's not doing it anymore. Oh, yeah, it's true. Yeah. Was this always this distressed or has it become more distressed with wear? No, this is always this distressed. This is relatively new. For people who can't see Choma, it's a grandpa cardigan that is knit in an argyle pattern but has threads coming all over the place.

1:30Yeah, it's very Mr. Havisham. Mr. Havisham. You don't hear a lot about Mr. Havisham. No, you don't. The late Mr. Havisham. Choma, tell me about your break. I feel like I saw pictures on Instagram of you in London, and yet I knew you were here. Well, I was mostly in London. I've only just touched down in New York. I see. I see. So it was really fun. It was really fun. Christmas dinner was dark. And my dear friend Rick, you've met, was really the main. I was like a sous chef. He cooked most of the meal, and it was just a family and it was really fun. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah, it was really low-key.

2:11How about you? Well, I have to say the last week before break, I felt very frenetic and I was kind of like, oh, I wish I was just staying in New York and not going to L.A. and sort of having to pack and wrap all my gifts and figure out how Santa was going to get to Los Angeles and all these things. And then we got to L.A. where I have family and my mom was there and it was really nice and not hot but sunny and lovely. And it was the week that it was like 12 degrees in New York, which cold weather in New York seemed terrible in my 20s, but now that I have to do something with toddlers, it's like much worse.

2:52So I was very grateful to be able to take them just to run around on the sand on the beach even if ocean was not in a situation. Although we did run into one of my uncle's friends who was coming out having just gone surfing. in the ocean as we were like standing at the water's edge. And he was like, I just saw a baby white, a great white breaching. And I was like, well, we will not be going in the ocean. And New Year's Eve, I just, I say that I celebrated on French time. So what time did you go to bed? Did you even see New Year? Oh, absolutely not. A couple of my best friends came over. One of them has a son, Romeo, who is Alice's age.

3:32and they came over at 4.30. We had margaritas and some tinned fish. You know, there's that new tinned fish company, The Fish Wife, and it has like really nice branding. Yes, they have like delicious smoked salmon and like chili peppers, whatever. I've seen them on, they're in NoHo or somewhere. They were like on every gift guide and I was sort of seduced. But yeah, so we had margaritas at 4.30 p.m. and the kids went to bed at 7.30 and I went to bed at nine. And I felt great. I wasn't far behind you, but we did karaoke, which was quite fun. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, it was quite fun. Were you here?

4:12I was here. Oh, that's so fun. It was really fun. And where do you do karaoke? At home, because we have a projector. Oh, so fun. And there's a DJ booth. So we're very much equipped to do karaoke in a really big way. Wow. How many were you? There were just four of us. Oh, that's so fun. It was many rounds. What was your best song? My best song was When Doves Cry. You want to do a bar for us? No. Do you have any New Year's intentions? I don't actually. I am trying to cook more. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I'm cooking something tonight that I've never cooked before. What's that? Spicy crab meat pasta.

4:53Wow. Yeah. Impressive. Yeah, well, it's so easy. I mean, I'll let you know. I'll let you know how it turns out. but it looks like easy. Where's the recipe from? My mom used to cook this recipe. Interesting. She made it for us as kids and then I remembered part of it and I looked it up and there's like there's variations of it everywhere. It's basically like chilies, lots of parsley, lemon, a little splash of white wine, lots of olive oil and some crab meat. Yeah, it's good. I'll let you know how it goes. Okay. Already found a little crab exoskeleton on the beach and now he wants to eat crabs. Maybe this is the thing.

5:29This is the way to do it. How about you? Do you have any? I feel like I have so many New Year's resolutions and none of them are going to happen. But I'm like... What are they? I want to be more patient. I want to be more quiet. I want to... Why? I don't know. I just feel like I need to think before I speak. Okay. Fair enough. I want to read more books. That is one I would love to do more. I feel like between the New Yorker, New York Magazine and the New York Times Magazine, I just like by the time I finish them, it's the next week again. And so I'm starting again. And I read Claire Keegan's book, Small Things Like These.

6:12Small Things Like These. Okay. But it reminded me that it's I really need to read fiction again. And you know what? I'm finally reading all fours. Oh, you're going to love it. I wish I could read it again. I'm so excited. Carla, our colleague, head of content at Vogue Mexico, aims to read 50 a year. I don't think I read that many books a year. Do you read 50 books a year? Carla has older children and she travels a lot. How does she do it? 50 books a year? That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah, book a week. I guess I know a lot of people who read a book a week. Wow. But it's not part of my journey right now.

6:43Right. I'm also trying to do my own writing a bit each week. I love that. I feel like I have not done that. It's hard. Since I took this job. Yeah, it's hard. I'm glad that you're going to cook more. My resolution is that Graham should cook more. Do you cook a lot? Not at all. But I'd like him to cook more. I love this. I love this. I like to make intentions for others. I mean, we did a piece on, like, why eating grapes is good luck, and it did very well over the holiday. And I do feel like I've seen it more and more. Yeah, why is it good luck? It's like it's a tradition. It's a superstition in Spanish-speaking countries.

7:23The idea is that you eat 12 grapes for good luck and you get one month of good luck per grape. I thought that it was supposed to be that they need to be eaten within a minute on the stroke of midnight. That's more your style. Irene Kim tried to do that last year, like almost choked. But, yeah, so please don't try this at home. Be safe. I think I could do that quite comfortably. 12 grapes in a minute? Yeah. That's not that bad. No, it's okay. Yeah. So what are you looking forward to this year? I'm excited about the Super Bowl even though I won't be able to – I don't know if I'll be able to watch it in real time.

8:02Oh, is that true? You can't watch it in the – oh, just because of time change, not because of channel? Yeah, I don't know where it streams. I don't think it – maybe – I'm sure I could watch it probably theoretically, but I'm not on our own. I might even not do that. I'm excited though for the halftime show with Kendrick Lamar. That's my – and I'm really excited for the Golden Globes. Yeah, I'm excited for the Golden Globes. I think this is going to be a fun awards season. I do feel like – we were talking about this in pitch meeting this morning – that people are going to the movies this season in a way I haven't seen in a few years.

8:35Like my sister-in-law and her boyfriend were visiting this week and they went to see The Brutalist and Nasratu. And both movies were sold out and they like had to check two different theaters, which is The Brutalist is not a movie that I thought people would be like swarming to. Even Wallace and Gromit was packed. Really? So I do feel like there is this excitement about movies as events again. We also have good TV coming up. White Lotus comes back in February. Yes, I cannot wait. But we have to wait till February. It's too long. Fear not. February will be here in not one wink. Are we talking February 1st or February 29th?

9:13Great question. Oh, 28. Oh, it is. It's a leap year. It's a leap year. Oh, crap. Okay. And Severance, which I didn't watch, but people liked. Oh, I haven't seen that. What other movies are like? I don't think what the big, big things are. Oh, I want to see Conclave. And I don't think a lot of people have seen that. That's true. But I think that's getting a lot of attention. And I think that's going to be a big one. Do you think the TikTok ban is actually going to happen? The TikTok ban here? No. People are worried. Do you think so? I mean, like. Influencers are concerned. I don't know. I think they're going to find a way around it.

9:45And I also feel that, I don't know, they'll find a way around it. This TikTok ban has been looming for so many years and it hasn't happened. I mean, when I think about the influence that TikTok has, I've been walking past this one block that was always completely empty. And now there's a line around the block and it's for a photo booth because it went viral on TikTok. That is crazy. And people were waiting on January 1st in the freezing cold for, I mean, there were just lines and lines of people for a photo booth. People have lost the plot. I know. It's too much. It's too much. I mean, I'm here for TikTok, but not for the TikTok crazy trends.

10:22I mean, on that note, what do you think of like in-and-out lists? I feel like they've been flooding my feed. They need to be gone. They're out. They're out. Out. In-and-out lists. Emma Spector and I were talking about this this morning. I was like, the only thing that's in-and-out for me is in-and-out burger. that's always it how did I guess but we were talking today and I feel like it's come up a few times as we've been discussing like parasocial relationships as we see like everyone had such strong feelings about Barry Keoghan and Sabrina Carpenter breakup and Selena Gomez's engagement with the Charlie XCX her letterbox account was leaked and everyone saw her reviews can someone explain to me what a letterbox is basically I don't actually use letterbox but I should Letterboxd is, it's like Goodreads for movies.

11:09Okay. Where you log the movies you've watched and give reviews and you can share those reviews and your movie log with your, like, LinkedIn community, basically. Got it, got it, got it. I mean, not literally your LinkedIn, but it's like that kind of. It's a social network for movie watchers. And Charlie had hers private, but it was leaked to reviews of different movies. Anything, like, controversial? No, but people were saying that it was all felt like very in character for Charlie. And then we were wondering, like, is this part of her transition to actress? Because she's going to be in all these movies in 2025.

11:42Tension, I guess. And how, like, the culture you consume defines you as helps contribute to your brand as a media personality and celebrity. Okay, I'm here for the theory of it. On Monday morning, we will be here, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, ready to talk about all of our best-dressed, best moments, biggest snubs, biggest wins. Join us for our special Golden Globes episode. You've also been sending such great mailbag questions, and we actually read every single one of them. This week is going to be our last push for questions, so don't delay. Send us some questions. and ask us or any other members of the Vogue team to answer your fashion, beauty or lifestyle questions.

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12:42We'll be back in just a minute with Emma Spector and my conversation with Nikki Glaser.

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13:40Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Thank you, guys. Thanks. You look so great. Thank you. Yeah, I just came from The View. What else is on the agenda for this trip? This is the last thing before I head to the airport. So this New York trip was like a press trip. Where are you heading back to? L.A. I'm from St. Louis. I live in St. Louis, but I'm in L.A. right now preparing for the Golden Globe. So I'm out there because there's so many comedy clubs. I can just run around and do sets all the time and test material. Do you have a favorite? Oh, that's interesting. So you're testing Glow's material out in L.A.

14:09Yeah. Like I'm running out every night. Like I do like the triangle of clubs. Like I stay right in the middle of it, but it's like the improv comedy store Laugh Factory. And I just jump from each of them. and I can do like four or five sets in a night if I want. And I just, you know, walk on stage and I go, hey guys, I'm hosting the Golden Globes and do you mind if I run some jokes? Please don't tell anyone these jokes. And, you know. What if someone records it and posts it? Do they do that like bad? You put your phone in? I just trust. I kind of, I don't know. I'm the same way with literally my purse and my things.

14:42Like I just trust people not to steal. And if it's, if they do, I'll be disappointed in the world. but it hasn't not worked out for me yet. What else is Globes Prep? Like, I feel like it's like marathon vibes. Like, you're really in last stretch. It's so marathon, like, literally. I mean, I've never trained for a marathon, but, like, some days you can't run the 20 miles or whatever, and you're never doing the full 26, but, like, some days it's like one mile. So, like, last night I only did one set, and I walk on stage and I just go, hey, I'm going to run some jokes, and then I deliver the jokes and I say, based on your laughter, is going to decide whether or not I do this, which I think is kind of cool for audiences because I'm like, then watch it on CBS on January 5th, and then if you hear a joke that you liked tonight and I do it that night, you can literally tell your friends, like, I told her to do that joke.

15:32I co-signed that. Yeah, because they did. And are there a lot of times where you can tell, it's like, oh, this joke is not landing? Yeah, you know, usually it's because either the joke isn't just properly written or my delivery is off, I stumble over a word, or it's like they don't know what these nominees are. Like people are just consuming so much media right now that we're not all locked into the same movies and the same TV. Like it's just, it's, you know, Amelia Perez is a movie that's on Netflix and it came out in November and it's nominated for 10 awards and it stars Selena Gomez, but I can't find a single person in my life who's seen it.

16:09It's a little bit of a tough, a tricky thing because really the only subject matter in the monologue where everyone's kind of like on board with the subject and I don't have to explain the plot line before I make the joke is wicked. And then obviously, like, Timothee Chalamet, Nicole Kidman, Selena Gomez. So it's going to be about more pointing out the celebrities there. So much of these jokes is based on the reaction that the celebrities make. So I could make a joke that's a 10 out of 10. And if the person that I'm making it about mean mugs me, anyone at home, we're really susceptible subconsciously to influence by how other people perceive things.

16:44Like that's how we judge whether we like something is like reading the comments, seeing how many likes are on a video. Like as much as we want to go, no, I form my own opinion. Like we are desperate to find out what other people think before we think about it. And so if they're not smiling after a joke, people will – even if they love the joke, they'll be like, that joke sucked. Like so I have to kind of cater the jokes to make sure these people are going to laugh at them just so the audience at home even laughs. It's quite a tightrope. That's interesting. It is. But that makes sense. I don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable or feel like they were called out.

17:16And I certainly, you know, I watch these monologues now and I see the hosts say like, you know, Timothee Chalamet is here. And then everyone applauds and you just see Timothee like in the shot being like, what's coming down the pike? And so it's, there's so many factors to consider that are, that I'm not used to with just regular standup where it's like, you know, it only matters what, if the audience laughs or not. It's not, like, based on someone's reaction, one person's reaction who the camera's going to go to afterwards. Well, I would think that the roast, the Tom Brady roast, would prepare well for that.

17:48Yeah, it did. Just of, like, the high stakes, the live aspect of it. We're there to celebrate people, but that's after my monologue. My monologue is a comedy moment that is a monologue, so it's just going to be pretty rapid fire. Right now it's just writing hundreds of jokes and sifting through them and trying to find the best ones in the best order. And it's a ton of work. Do you generally have an internal sense of like if a joke is too edgy or is it more like audience reaction kind of? Or do you have like one person who you have read your jokes and you're like it's too mean like your mom or something.

18:25Lighten it on Timothy. Yeah. I think the audience – that's why I'm trying them out. I think I get a sense of like where it's like whoa too much. But I think because I've been doing it so long and just have performed in front of crowds for so many years, I just have a good sense of what people like and what they don't like. And when it comes to celebrities, I'm really sensitive to how sensitive celebrities are. Like everyone wants me to just go in there and like go for blood because I think most of us kind of resent the elite Hollywood, you know, people who think they're better than us and are so smug.

19:00Even though we worship them, there's like this people really want me to let them have it. And it's easy for people to say they're not me and don't have to have the backlash. And they're like, just do it, Nikki. Just go. Just go hard, full throttle. And I'm like, yeah, well, I'm going to. That's bad advice. I may be on the third time I host when I'm ready to go away. Ricky Gervais when he hosted and everyone goes, that was amazing. He roasted everyone. That was his last time. And he knew it was his last time. And he kept saying, I don't care. I'm not doing this again. I don't care. And so that's fitting for that.

19:32But I can't come out there and go, I don't care, because I do care. This is my first time. I'd like to do this again and again. And people don't know me as well as Ricky. People do know of me, but it's like a lot of those celebrities have probably never heard of me, these A-listers. And even if they have, they're like, who are you to make fun of me? So it's delicate. Any time where you've really regretted going too far? um not yet to be honest with you I didn't read it specifically but I had caught wind that maybe Giselle was like a little bit hurt by her being mentioned at the Tom Brady roast and I did have a joke in which I had painted her in a sexual position with her new boyfriend yes and I was a fan thank you but even even like when I that joke was put in front of me I didn't write that joke but I chose to tell it and it was killing in the clubs and I was still questioning it because I'm like she's not there you know and it's not really fair to like paint her in this sexual light when she hasn't been and for us all to now picture her in this you know pornographic situation but then I was like it's also with her boyfriend who she's with and and loves and so I'm rationalizing it in my head like it's not so bad and and and it makes her look good in the end but I did there was a part of me that goes, I don't know that she'll like this.

20:55And I still did it, even though I knew that. And then it turns out she probably did it. And I think that was probably one of the jokes she was referencing. She didn't say it specifically, but that she didn't love and felt uncomfortable with. And there was a part of me that was like, yeah, yeah, that's fair. Like, she has a right to feel that way. And I would probably, I'd probably do owe her an apology. But yeah, there's things like that where I go, and there's jokes at the globe, this coming globes that I can probably, I will look back on and say, maybe I shouldn't have done that because there's just no one, at the roast, you're signing up to be there.

21:30Giselle did it. That's another case. She wasn't there, but like everyone there, I've never gone too far because they're there. Yeah. They're asking you to kind of do your worst. This is precedented. You know, there's, there's, I've roasted before. They can go watch my sets and see how hard I go. And if you don't think I'm going to find stuff about you to go that hard on, then you're delusional and you almost deserve it than in a different way for thinking you're better than going this hard. So, um, so, but the Golden Globes is different because they're, it's not a roast and they're not being paid to be there to be roasted.

21:59So I got to be a little bit more gentle so I can understand, uh, how I'll probably feel that way after the roast of like, I maybe shouldn't have gone that hard. And I only feel that way if it doesn't go well, if it goes well, I'll be like, yeah, I definitely should have. Well, this is such an incredible year for your work. And I mean, you've been nominated for an Emmy, a Grammy, a Golden Globe and a Critics Choice Award for Someday You'll Die, your comedy special. And I'm curious, did you feel like any of this was on the horizon as you headed into this year or like or maybe what are you looking to get out of the next year?

22:31Every year they're kind of like, this is going to be your year. I think it's been happening for like 15 years of my career. And finally, it actually did happen. But I had a feeling about the Tom Brady roast is really what like cracked everything open. My special came out a week after that. And I do think the fanfare around that was connected to the Tom Brady roast. People, more eyes were on it. People kind of knew who I was. It wasn't as shocking maybe. I think for the first time in 2023 when I was, you know, making that special was the first time I started to feel like a lot of confidence in what I was doing and being like, oh, I really belong.

23:06I'm not an imposter. I've always never thought I was the most talented person, but you can't really deny the years you put in. Like that's something that you can't go, well, that doesn't – because all I know is that years and doing it – like repetition, you can't avoid getting good. So just based solely on how hard I've worked, I should be good. So I was able to let it sink in a little bit. And then that confidence kind of just – when you – you can't ever fake it. I really don't think you can fake confidence. But when you suddenly like like yourself and appreciate the work you put in and feel like you deserve to be what you're doing because I think I've always felt like I feel bad.

23:43They're spending all this money on these lights and this set design. Like I should just put this on YouTube. Like I've always kind of felt like that. But this HBO special I just like, yes, this was the first time I was like, no, I deserve to be there. And it's really about like I brought my boyfriend in as like kind of my producing partner because he's always been the person. And he produces live TV. We've done projects together but worked separately a lot. This was the first time he actually produced on it. So he, like, made me believe it and produce and create the special from a place of, like, let's make a special that makes you look like a star.

24:16And then for the Tom Brady roast, like, I just knew it was going to be a huge deal. It was Tom Brady. It was like no one this high profile has ever done a roast before. I mean maybe Justin Bieber but no one that's, like, so protected that's never had a sense of humor about themselves. that isn't like already kind of a punchline has ever done a roast. Yeah, totally. I was like, I got to get on this because I didn't even want to do roasts anymore because it had been a few years. And in that time, I had gotten closer to 40. And when you get in your late 30s as a woman on these roasts, they just start calling you old and ugly and whatever, and horse face, whatever they want to say.