Vogue Editors Answer Your Questions! | PLUS Dior and Chanel Couture

0:00Hi, I'm Arden Fanning Andrews, Vogue's beauty editor at large. My husband and I talk a lot of eBay strategy together because it is something that we have bonded over since the beginning of our relationship. We've known each other for 20 years and we've been using eBay for even longer than that, both of us. He's very proud of his five-star review, which I have the same. We're pretty popular. We have a really good reputation on eBay.

0:28This is The Run Through. I'm Chloe Mao. And I'm Cho Minardi. and I am so excited for today's episode. It's finally mailbag time. Choma, I love mailbag episodes. I love to hear what questions people actually are interested in hearing about and we love the opportunity to answer them. Thank you to everyone who submitted a question through the Vogue app and to those who emailed. But Choma, I have my own questions about your speed trip to Paris for the couture shows. I want to hear everything. Oh my God, it was nail biting. I mean, first of all, all of the trains were delayed. Why? It didn't snow there.

1:10I know, but the Eurostar is always delayed. So, but I got the eight o 'clock train. I made it in time. I had lunch with our dear colleague, Francesca Ragazzi. And then I ran into - Where do two Vogue editors lunch in Paris? Let's set the scene. So Fran used to work. Fran used to live in Paris so she's full of um she's she's full of suggestions so we went to this place called Le Latourie and and um we we met with her and our and our colleague and our former colleague Juan who because they were working on they're working on Vogue World Milan furiously working on Vogue World Milan so I sort of hijacked their lunch um and it was a stone's throw from the from the the dual show and on the way in to the show we ran into amanda harlick who is a long time carl carl lagerfeld collaborator i mean she worked with john galliano in the beginning she's a huge fan of jonathan anderson so she was extremely excited to be at the show um and the excitement was really palpable you walked into the room and And obviously Jonathan has a history of doing kind of incredible, kind of surreal sets.

2:36And there was a garden on the ceiling. So there was moss and flowers growing from the ceiling and these mirrored walls. So it's kind of like this upside down, topsy-turvy world, which sort of greeted you out the door. And then I spent a lot of time celebrity spotting and trying to figure out who was there. and give us give us a scene set okay so jennifer lawrence was there and she was wearing one of the coats from the men's collection which was poire inspired and so was anya taylor joy they both look fab i missed gretta lee who was in one of my favorite looks from the men's which was those white yeah i know there's one jeep there's white jeans and that spark very choma naughty look Oh, my God.

3:23Yeah, it was very me. Very me. Very naughty by nature. It was very naughty by nature. I missed Anna and John Galliano coming in, but people were very excited to see that John was at the show and sitting front row. In fact, there were so many designers at the show. I think I saw Jean-Borre Gaultier. I had a quick coffee with Shamina from Chloe afterwards, and she told me she was at the show. I didn't even see her. I saw pictures of her and Pierre Paolo going together. I love when designers go to other designers' shows. I think it's so convivial and charming. It is, isn't it? And Pharrell was there.

4:00So, yeah, I mean, I love that Jonathan invites the entire community to come and watch the show. So that was really fun. And then we were all kind of waiting to see who was going to show up. And obviously, I guess that would be Rihanna because she was a tiny bit late. And she looked incredible. She showed up wearing all black with dark shades, very kind of her version of kind of old Hollywood glamour meets couture. The show was pretty incredible. I don't know if you saw, but Jonathan posted an Instagram picture of Tesco's bag, which is I guess the equivalent of what's the equivalent of Tesco's?

4:46maybe it's not Target but anyway it's a really beloved supermarket in the UK and apparently on his meeting with at his meeting with John Galliano John had brought this like a shopping bag of Tesco treats with him and these gorgeous flowers oh cyclamen cyclamen and a bouquet of cyclamen flowers and he he based the collection on those flowers I loved all the floral earrings even with like a simple oversized coat. They looked incredible. And some of the things that you couldn't really see in pictures were the feathers and the textures and the sequins and those really beautiful draped looks that you couldn't really tell whether it was two layers or three layers.

5:32It was very, very much in the spirit of what Jonathan does, but in this very rarefied couture zone. And then Lynn Yeager was staying at the same hotel as me. So we took a ride to the Chanel show and she has a friend who works in the atelier at Chanel who is extremely excited about it. And I think that generally the energy before the show was electric because everybody's been waiting for this moment. and it didn't matter that there was a complete downpour because you walked into the show, into the Grand Palais, and it was like Alice in Wonderland. Like I took a picture of Lynn next to one of the massive, giant mushrooms that were all over the set, and I was just like, oh my God, we've just like fell down the rabbit hole here.

6:20It was so fun. Oh, that's so fun. It was so fun. It was such a fun collection, but Lynn got told off for touching one of the mushrooms. but um so you couldn't exactly like sit on them you had to be careful but they were well it's like we're in alice wonderland you're supposed to rip a piece off and eat it to get larger or smaller so i guess you weren't supposed to do that but it did make me think of you know one of the all-time great vogue shoots of natalia buddhianova with all the designers as alice in wonderland the grace and annie and the mushroom image is mark jacobs perched on a mushroom with natalia in Marc and it's for Vuitton.

7:00But yes, that's a very, it looked delightful. I love the collection. I thought it was so beautiful. There was such ease and movement to it. And Nicole Phelps in her review was talking about how much this was an IRL show and how you really needed, there were these little brooches that you really needed to see in person. They didn't translate in photos. And I thought that made the couture of it all so much more exclusive and it made it more intimate. I also loved the sort of trompe l 'oeil necklace brooch of one of the early looks where there was a brooch in the center of a sort of Hepburn-esque black shift dress and then the necklace underneath it.

7:46So it looked like it was poking, peeking out. Yeah, that was brilliant. I mean, there were so many beautiful touches, the mushroom heels on the shoes, on the slingbacks, the embroidery, the jeans that weren't jeans, but that were sheer pants, the pajamas. Oh yeah, the sheer jeans, organza jeans. The sheer jeans that were incredible. For me, what stood out instantly was one thing that I sort of often see that we often see at couture is it's quite heavy because we're always talking about the handwork and the beading and how many hours it took to make. And transporting some of these looks, you know, you need like kind of a fridge, a refrigerator size bag to carry them in.

8:29But this is like a collection that you could literally throw in your suitcase. Like it was so light. And it felt incredibly modern to me in a way that there was this lightness. And to me, it was just emblematic of the way Mathieu has taken on the House of Chanel. He has not burdened himself with the weight of it and it felt so easy so intuitive and um when you saw when you saw the the women kind of the models walking by and the little details of things that the little details like the mushroom embroidery or or the the detail the the sort of chiffon that looked like feathers but uh and moved like little feathers like it was so incredibly detailed but it was just it had a lightness of hand that I thought was just like exquisite, I have to say.

9:17Like it was really special. And then the casting, the casting was amazing. I mean, I love that you opened with a model, a graying bob who's absolutely fantastic looking black woman. I loved that haircut. It reminded me of Simone Viles' haircut. It was like this classic sort of curly hair triangle. Yeah, it was brilliant. At one point, my hair was a bit like that. Now it's so much longer. That's true. You did have a moment a bit like that. Curly hair triangle going on. So obviously, I love that. And then to spot models like Nomi Lenoir, who we haven't seen in ages. It was just an unexpected lineup.

9:54And your beloved Bavita closed the show with the bride. The beloved Bavita looking incredible, smiling from ear to ear, twirling, and just having the best time. and as the Chanel bride, which was incredible. And yeah, it was really like a wonderful moment. And then you zipped right back on the Eurostar? I sure did. And Choma, while you were in a land of mushrooms, I was in a winter wonderland. It snowed over a foot in New York on Sunday. I think the happiest person in New York City was Lloyd Albert. My dog was frolicking through the snow. He is half St. Bernard, and he was so happy. All of these tourists were like, this dog is so happy.

10:42So, yes, we did a lot of sledding. It was a snow day on Monday. It's also frigidly cold. It's seven degrees. And so that was a big theme of the moment. and we all have been trying to figure out how to style our snow boots. Yeah, what boots are you wearing? Well, I have a pair of Prada snow boots that I got a long time ago on sale and I'm always like, why do I own these? I wear them three times a year, but three or four times a year I do wear them are extremely important. So that's where I am. I'm wearing them. Cost per wear, we approve. we exactly trauma the grammys are this sunday we're all very excited anyone you are rooting for yeah for sure i think everybody i mean obviously it was a big year for kendrick lamar and i think he'll ultimately get um he'll get a nod there for sure for sure and good to see don't she make record of the year too i think one of the surprise albums that came through was was the clips's album um a lot of people are talking about that I don't know if they'll if they'll get not if they'll get an award but um I think it's really it's really great to see to see artists that have kind of been have have a lot of skin in the game really come and and get become contenders in that category and then I'm kind of excited for Kalani like I think her she's had a big year and I think um I'm excited to see what she wears to the Grammys and I'm excited to see if that buzz will translate into a Grammy award because she's really built over the year, over the last few years has really built a following.

12:35But this year, I think it's gone to another level. Sometimes the Grammys are kind of behind on those sort of things, though. So I don't know if she'll get recognized this time, but she's definitely someone who's emerging as like a really important voice in music. Wow. Excellent. I, of course, am a big fan of Golden from K-pop Demon Hunter. So I'm looking forward. Also, some of us have been very into Audrey Nunez's look. She was the one who wore Tom Brown to the Golden Globes, and she has been wearing Comme des Garcons, just some very fashion-forward, risk-taking looks. So we're excited to see what Audrey is wearing.

13:19And Choma, you have the BAFTAs coming up. It's in a couple of weeks. We're prepping it. We host our fashion and film event with GQ, the night of the BAFTAs. So we're in furious preparation mode and Jesse Buckley's one of the major hosts for the party. So that's super exciting. And I think Chase Infinity will be too. So we're so excellent. Yeah, we're really excited. And the nomination list looks really great.

13:57All right. And Choma, are you reading Wuthering Heights? You know what? I need to because I feel like I read it at some point in my youth, but have no recollection of reading it. Well, but this is actually what's interesting. And this has been the real topic in the halls of Vogue around the book club has been how we all maybe misremembered or remembered very specifically the book, which is it. And its reputation is as this great romance. And now we're all reading it. And it's people are not nice to each other. It's toxic, right? It's quite violent. It's very toxic. Yeah. And I am still moved by the intensity and the depth of Kathy and Heathcliff's connection to each other.

14:43But it's not, it doesn't make you believe in love in certain ways. But you have me beat and have actually already seen the movie. I know. I know. The movie was great. But yeah, it is a very toxic love story if it can be called a love story or romance. But I mean, I guess it is a love story. It's just it isn't the kind of Valentine's Day. No, exactly. I know Graham, my husband, is very kindly, charmingly joined the book club and is listening to it. And he's like, this is not a romance. These people are terrible. I don't appreciate that the trailer for the movie dubs this as the greatest romance of all time.

15:27Chloe Shaw was having a similar experience. But yes, I mean, right now, if everyone's following our Vogue Book Club reading guide, you should be in volume two around chapter 21. And Nellie, who is the faithful servant and narrator, and Kathy Jr. are bird hunting on the moors in this scene. And it made me think of all the birds and feathers in the tour shows. Love where your mind goes. we've had a lot of talk about all the feathers at couture we want margo to try on the scaparelli feather shoes in front of her bird her bird camera um all right and and yes we are very excited about our um live podcast recording with emerald finnell happening on sunday february 8th super bowl sunday wuthering heights is my super bowl okay that's it for the news this week we'll be right back to answer all of your questions

16:36whenever i'm looking for things with ebay authenticity guarantee it often ends up being sneakers i'm not necessarily sneakerhead but there are specific sneakers that i may have like fallen in love with and have been discontinued. And it's really nice to find them on eBay. And so it'll be just like a pair of platform Converse loafers. It will be a pair of Vans white slippers with like a very specific low toe. And so it's great with eBay to just be like, this is a real thing. It's in the size that you want. It's in the style that you want. And it's real. Okay, Choma, let's start with something that comes up a lot around the office.

17:11what is happening with fur? I feel like everyone is wearing fur again. I mean, fur and reading actual books. I was sitting next to a man yesterday in a floor-length fur, and he was reading David Foster Wallace. I was like, wow, this is all the trends in one. What are the rules around fur? I think they differ from place to place. I think it's somewhere like New York where it gets legitimately cold to the point where you feel like maybe a gigantic fur makes sense, hopefully a vintage fur I definitely think I'm seeing more of it here but it's also difficult to say whether it's faux or real because I think fake fur has gotten so good um that sometimes you can mistake a fake for the real thing I don't know I can see why I used to wear vintage fur and then I really stopped because I felt like there was a that the tide turned against it and And I felt that it wasn't appropriate even to wear fake fur.

18:10But then some will say that fake fur isn't sustainable, that real fur is sustainable. It's really bad for the environment. Yeah, that vintage fur is sustainable and that we should be wearing it and not having it languish on the shelf of a vintage store. And I don't know. I don't know. What do you think? It's a tricky one. Yeah. I actually don't. I personally don't wear fur, but I don't know how I feel about people wearing vintage fur. I think people should be able to wear vintage fur, but I do understand some concerns that how do people know that it's vintage fur and then are you sanctioning the idea of fur in general?

18:53Rachel Tashin just did a piece for CNN about how she thinks vintage fur is OK and that that's the way to go. I'm definitely pro, more pro vintage fur than I am pro synthetic fur, because I think that that is just extremely detrimental to the environment and uses a lot of resources. and as you know a lot of us had some animal rights protesters this this summer around Conde's use of fur but yes as of October 2025 very recently Conde no longer features fur which I think is exciting because I've never been a fur person myself yeah I think British focus had the rule a lot longer but I do think I know I don't know how you guys did that I mean I can tell that people love their animals here yeah fur was not i think there's much more resistance to fur in general than there has been or than there is in america or in other places and you're in continental europe even next question yes yes and this one's for you chloe so how's it been stepping into your new role as the head of editorial content um at american vogue and what have been some of the unexpected challenges?

20:06What are the most fun parts of your job? Oh my God, how much time do we have? I know, girl. I'm still answering that question two years later. I know. The most challenging part has been figuring out how to juggle parts of my old job that I really love doing of editing the website. And I still do feel very involved and in the weeds in that. And I like a lot of that, But I just have a lot more demands on my time now. And so figuring out hours in a day has been very challenging. I find the sort of HR of it all quite intense. That's maybe on me too because I am quite available and I like being up in the mix with people.

20:52But I often feel like a boarding school principal at a girl's school, people coming in and complaining. And what has been the most fun? The most fun thing for me is being in meetings with colleagues and brainstorming together and solving problems together and then seeing those ideas come to life. For example, we've been talking about this woman on TikTok who finds bodega cats and Margot really loves her. And then we were also talking about how pendant necklaces were big this season. And so we had we organized a shoot of this woman finding bodega cats and them playing with pendant necklaces. I love that.

21:42Oh, God. And that's coming out tomorrow. And that's a great example of synergy of inspirations coming out of meetings. I love that. I love that. Choma, one listener asked, what were Chloe and Choma's biggest designer clothing splurges last year? And do editors get a clothing allowance? Ha! And if so, what designer do you spend it on? I wish. Choma, what was your big splurge? My big splurge last year, hmm, trying to think. I got these really great red Valentino shoes that I love. Oh, I love those. You've made those work. You've really amortized those shoes. I love them. And then I also bought these Alaya jeans that I really love.

22:34No, they're not jeans. They're a skirt over pants. Oh, I love that. That was a big splurge of the last year. But also, can't you wear the skirt alone? No, they're not detachable. I was going to say, then you got two for one. Yeah, I know. I know. I love wearing them just as they are. And they're really comfortable. And it just is a different version of jeans. And I can feel a bit more. She can pull together, but I'm still wearing jeans because I actually am kind of back in my denim bag again. Honestly, I'm due for a splurge. Like I do need some new pants. Like I'm sort of despairing. Okay, so where would you wear what you're thinking?

23:15Okay, I need to splurge. I need to go shopping. Where are you going? i don't know i'm drawing a blank honestly like i i think this is a hard time to shop because everything you kind of want the new season but it's still cold outside and it's going to be cold for a long time and so all of these new collections are probably not going to make sense for a while um i bought this amazing i recently bought it wasn't a big splurge i bought an all-in i guess they're now called august barone sweater that i love that was on sale on essence um what color is it it's navy that i i shrank i basically bought two because the first one shrank in the wash no i shouldn't have washed it but i was cavalier about it oh um so that they had the navy was the only color available but everybody gives me compliments about this sweater so it's nice when it's like oh okay i want to try and find this um uh my i would say my big splurge.

24:16I think I was present for one of your big splurges. Oh yeah, I was going to say that. I bought, I dragged Choma to Dries Van Noten between Alaya and Margiela last season. And Choma, Sam Sussman and I dashed in there in the most beautiful store in the world on the K-Malake. And I bought a full Dries outfit, a blue button down with this beautiful embellished sheer skirt that I have worn a lot, I have to say. And then I would also say my big fall splurge was a pair of row ankle boots. These suede brown, sort of chocolate suede, pointy toed row boots that I've worn a ton. I mean, I tend to find that I spend most money on clothes twice a year at the part of sample sale.

25:13It's like buying in like relative bulk, buying a few pieces, but it ends up being. That's true. Yeah. I did buy a really beautiful Miu Miu dress. Yeah. I love that Miu Miu dress. At the sample sale that I wore to Vogue World. Yeah, it's beautiful. Good, good, good memory. Yeah.

25:33The run through will be back in a moment.

25:42Sometimes people ask me which search terms I use whenever I'm on eBay. So I search a lot of deadstock. That's a term that I throw in there a lot. Deadstock means that no one's ever worn it before, but it is like an archival piece or it's a vintage piece. And so that's a great thing to find on eBay. There's a ton of deadstock vintage. and it's just kind of like comforting to know that like you're the first person taking this like piece on its maiden voyage even if it's 50 years old. eBay offers this departure from the everyday that ends up feeling totally you.

26:19What advice do you have for young people hoping to get into the fashion industry? When did you first know that you wanted to work in fashion? I would say I always tell people to hone their eye because the way you see the world is unique to you and it's always going to be your selling points so understand what you like and what you don't like because we're not in a world where there's right or wrong it's all about a sort of sense of taste and an aesthetic and honing that aesthetic and understanding what you feel passionate about within this work within this world of fashion and what that looks like what you're is so important um first of all and then to sort of practice sharing it in whatever format that feels good for you right I mean there's so many places to to sort of share your aesthetic some people like to do that on Instagram but it doesn't need to be that way you could there's so many ways of doing it I mean I went to see some students who were making zines so I think it's just important to get your to understand what you like what you don't like how you see the world as a creative person that's so important And then when did I want to know I wanted to work in fashion?

27:32I think probably, I think I always knew, but I didn't think it was a world I could see myself in. I always loved fashion. I don't know whether I thought, oh, I'm going to work in fashion as a really tiny little girl. But my first memories are all around fashion, around buying shoes and with my dad. And so I remember the love of fashion, the moment I knew that I wanted to make fashion my main career. Because I think often you get afraid to invest in something that you love and make it a thing that becomes work. I was quite afraid of that. I thought I wanted to be a stylist maybe when I was in my late teens after reading a lot of magazines.

28:14I knew I wanted to work in magazines I knew I wanted to work in magazines it didn't need to be fashion necessarily but I knew I wanted to work in magazines and then because I just loved reading them making them um I love newspapers I remember my mom bought me like a newspaper subscription sort of it was called the indie it was like a young sort of kids version of one of the broadsheets here and I just devoured it I loved I loved reading the news and reading magazines so but then later in my teenage years I sort of learned what stylists was and I want to do that but then I I hated I hated interning with stylists I hated schlepping the bags I realized that I like dressing myself more than I like dressing other people and I was better at dressing myself than other people I know I feel like um that happens to interior designers a lot too where they think they want to be interior designers they're like I just like my own house yeah yeah like doing it to someone else.

29:08Why? I didn't know that I wanted to work in fashion. So I do think that that goes to my biggest piece of advice, which is always take the meeting and be open to different directions your career can take than what you think. I think that a lot of people, a lot of young people today have very specific and set expectations and ideas of what they want to do. And I think the most important thing is to get experience in the industry and type of career that you want and be really open to different versions of that and what that looks like. Because learning what you don't want to do can be as helpful as learning what you do want to do.

29:55Choma, this is a delightful question. How do you elevate a bland outfit into being stylish and hot? I don't think I've ever in 15 years seen Troma in a bland outfit. So I'd like to know what she's going to say to this. Personally, I think I've bought, I'm not a big, I'm not, I've got really big wide feet. So I find it hard to find really cute shoes. Size 11 baby, famously. So usually I'm thinking about how I can distract from that rather than draw attention to that. But I have over the years found some shoes I love and I usually make them the focal point of the look. So I start with my shoes too.

30:35Yeah, I don't anymore, but I do when I have shoes I'm really excited about and I feel like, okay. I in general find it's really helpful to build an outfit from the shoe up because otherwise you can do a whole outfit and then you're like, shit, what shoe am I going to wear? And it can sort of derail the whole Jenga. Yeah. It's the bottom Jenga that really throws the tower off. Yeah, 100%. 100%. Yeah, but a shoe, a statement shoe is a really good way of doing a simple outfit to have a pop. Or you know what? I'm always inspired by Tawny Goodman. She is so good at having a very clear, simple wardrobe and uniform.

31:14She wears her button-down shirts, her white Levi's jeans, but she has that fabulous red Cheerio scarf, Hermes. Is it Charvet? Charvet scarf. And it's just an extra, it's this pop that makes the whole outfit sparkle. And I think that everyone having a pop is an important thing. You're so good with jewelry, too. I mean, like, with the right jewelry, I think you can have just wear a T-shirt and jeans and look fab. And I sort of think that, I mean, when I saw the earrings up close at Chanel, because you could just about see they had little birds in them. And it was just, I just thought, oh, Chloe would love these.