Vogue Editors' Most Anticipated Fall Films | PLUS Harry and Meghan Head Back to the UK

25 Aug 2026 · 44 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Vogue editors discuss the fall 2026 film festival circuit—Venice, Toronto, and the New York Film Festival—what makes each festival special, and which films to watch (including red-carpet buzz). They also cover a separate news item: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle returning to the UK this fall, reportedly tied to Meghan’s TV role (later disputed).

Guests (backgrounds)

Taylor Antrim, Lisa Wong-Macabasco, and Liam Hess are Vogue cinephiles/editors attending major festivals. Liam has been to Venice multiple times; Lisa frequently covers New York Film Festival; both use festival lineups to inform Vogue coverage.

Key claims

Venice is the most glamorous launch window; Toronto is an overwhelming “movie club” with an audience-award tendency toward crowd-pleasers; NYFF is highly curated and auteur-focused.

Notable examples (films)

Paper Tiger (James Gray; Miles Teller, Adam Driver, Scarlett Johansson); All of a Sudden (Hamaguchi; Virginia Fira, Tao Okamoto); Fjord (Christian Petzold; Renata Reinsve, Sebastian Stan); Rose and Fatherland (Sandra Hüller); Gentle Monster (Netflix; Léa Seydoux); Hope (Ho-yeon); Bucking Fasterds (Werner Herzog; Rooney & Kate Mara); Primetime (Robert Pattinson; Lance Oppenheimer); Ink (Danny Boyle; Claire Foy, Jack O’Connell, Guy Pearce); Misty Green (Chris Rock; Rosalind Eleazar, Adam Driver).

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Chapters

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Opening Love Story

0:00 to 0:12

A love story introduction featuring Isabella and Rebecca.

“I don't think I can be your friend, Isabella said.”

Upcoming Guest Discussion

0:45 to 1:18

Hosts tease a conversation about fall film festivals.

“Liam was visiting from the UK last week, so we took a rare moment to have the three of them in the studio to discuss fall film festivals, which kick off with Venice next week.”

Harry and Meghan Returning to the UK

1:18 to 2:19

Discussion on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's return to the UK.

“I mean, I think the big breaking news moment was finding out that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are returning to the United Kingdom.”

Cinematic Diet in August

2:19 to 3:15

Hosts share their recent film and documentary viewings.

“Literally, this must have been a long, hard conversation between the two of them, honestly, because they knew how this was going to be, like, reacted to.”

Family Activities and Fair Experiences

3:15 to 5:14

Chloe shares her weekend activities with family, including a fair.

“It's directed by Jason Heer, who did The Last Dance a couple years ago, about the Bulls and Michael Jordan.”

Upcoming Film Anticipations

5:14 to 6:06

Hosts discuss films they are looking forward to in the fall.

“Is that fair like one weekend every year or is it like go on for a long time?”

Venice Film Festival Insights

6:06 to 10:30

Deeper insights into the Venice Film Festival and its significance.

“Like, I mean, do you have any films that you're looking forward to this fall, actually?”

Film Festival Culture Takeover

13:10 to 14:01

Discussion about the upcoming fall film festival season.

“I'm Alex Schwartz, and we host Critics at Large from The New Yorker.”

Overview of Upcoming Film Festivals

14:27 to 15:36

Discussion on the significance of the upcoming Venice, Toronto, and New York film festivals.

“And to do that, I'm joined here in the studio today by my fellow movie enthusiasts, Lisa Wong-Macabasco and Liam Hess.”

The Glamour of Venice Film Festival

15:36 to 17:54

Exploration of the unique atmosphere and Hollywood presence at the Venice Film Festival.

“And Liam, since you're going to Venice, maybe you should start because that's the first one and it's coming, what, like right at the beginning of September?”
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Contrasting Toronto Film Festival

17:54 to 22:25

Comparison of the Toronto Film Festival's earnestness and diverse film offerings with Venice's glamour.

“So it tends to bring a bit more kind of Hollywood star on it.”

Character of the New York Film Festival

22:25 to 23:41

Discussion on the curated nature and unique characteristics of the New York Film Festival.

“So, Venice, Toronto, New York Film Festival.”

Paper Tiger: A Film Overview

23:41 to 25:50

Insights into the film 'Paper Tiger,' its plot, and notable cast members.

“It's by James Gray, a very regarded filmmaker, and it stars Miles Teller and Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson as members of a family.”

All of a Sudden: A New Project

25:50 to 27:14

Discussion about the film 'All of a Sudden' by Ryusuke Hamaguchi and its themes.

“And the two actresses, they speak in English and French and Japanese.”

Fjord: Anticipated Film Insights

27:14 to 28:00

Excitement surrounding the film 'Fjord' and its festival accolades.

“And they move from Romania to this tiny little hamlet, I guess I might say, with their five children.”

Investing in Fjord: Renata Reinsman's Impact

28:00 to 29:20

Discussion about Renata Reinsman's role in the film 'Fjord' and the anticipation for awards season.

“And I was like, I swear to God, that is Renata Reinsman, Sebastian Stan.”

Sandra Hewler's Career Resurgence

29:20 to 30:40

Exploration of Sandra Hewler's notable performances in recent films and their impact on her career.

“And her performance in it as well was so chilling.”

Upcoming Films Featuring Sandra Hewler

30:40 to 32:20

Details on upcoming films starring Sandra Hewler and their anticipated impact for awards season.

“I thought about it for a long time afterwards.”

Lea Seydoux and Festival Highlights

32:20 to 34:10

Discussion about Lea Seydoux's involvement in upcoming films and her rising prominence during festival season.

“I mean, I think it probably – it's not a perfect movie, but it's one of those ones that I have not stopped thinking about.”

Exciting Festival Films to Watch

34:10 to 35:50

Overview of intriguing upcoming films including 'Hope' and their anticipated audience reception.

“And which is like, I think, putting like a number of people off.”

Exciting Films at Upcoming Festivals

37:06 to 42:01

Discussion of films to expect at Venice and Toronto festivals, including 'Possible Love' and 'Bucking Fastered'.

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Anticipated Fall Films Discussion

42:01 to 44:18

The hosts discuss their most anticipated films of the fall season, highlighting unique aspects of each film and the directors involved.

“Looks like a real sort of buzzy movie to see.”
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Transcript

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0:00I don't think I can be your friend, Isabella said. Rebecca's stomach flipped. This is the love story of real hinge couple Isabella and Rebecca, written and read by me, Temi Denton-Hurst. Listen to the free audiobook now.

0:22This is The Run Through. I'm Chloe Mal. And today, our dear Choma is still on vacation, trekking across the Swiss Alps, we hope, like a goat. And I'm joined this morning by podcast regular, friend of the pod, Marley Marius. Hi, CM. A reluctant hello. Today on the show, we have a conversation between Taylor Antrim, Lisa Macabasco, and Liam Hess, our resident cinephiles. Liam was visiting from the UK last week, so we took a rare moment to have the three of them in the studio to discuss fall film festivals, which kick off with Venice next week. Taylor, Lisa, and Liam will all be attending some of these festivals and came on to talk about the most anticipated films of fall 2026.

1:13But before we get to that, news from this past week. Yes. I mean, I think the big breaking news moment was finding out that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are returning to the United Kingdom. Apparently this fall, as soon as it's fall, their kids are going to be at school. The kids are enrolled. Which is crazy. They're apparently keeping their Montecito house. They're keeping their vacation house in Portugal. but they'll be back on UK soil, but not as royals, like just as people. And Tina Brown reported this weekend that it was because Megan got a role in a Guy Ritchie show, but then there's reports that then that was off.

1:48So it's all very unclear. But I have to say, I'm a fan of the as-ever jam, and I feel this is not good for my jam supply. Less jamming gonna happen in London. That is a shame. But I think it's so cute, the kids having, like, an English childhood. Somehow that feels right to me. I mean, I think it's confusing. I'm sure the British press have a lot to say about this. But this feels like a nice full circle thing for them in some sort of sweet way. When that news broke, I did gasp. Me too, honestly. I couldn't believe it. I was like, we've been through so much. Literally, this must have been a long, hard conversation between the two of them, honestly, because they knew how this was going to be, like, reacted to.

2:27Marlee, what has been your August cinematic diet? Okay. I mean, great question. Honestly, I've been watching some old things. Like, I recently watched Parade's End, like, the miniseries from 1800 years ago. Wow. Benedict Cumberbatch and Rebecca Hall, adapted from the Ford Maddox Ford novels. Anyway, fabulous, amazing, gorgeous stuff. But more recently, or in terms of sort of more recent content, over the weekend, And I did watch the new documentary about Novak Djokovic. Oh, which Corey really liked. He really did. And that sort of turned me on to it. He is someone who has sort of been villainized by the tennis media.

3:07Which makes me like him. You know, that makes sense. He's a real prester. You're like a feisty guy. And that is very much like explored in the film. It's directed by Jason Heer, who did The Last Dance a couple years ago, about the Bulls and Michael Jordan. Are you watching Furious? No. Everyone's watching Emmy Rossum a little crazed in Furious. I have not seen that. Me neither. But it's nice. I mean, Emmy Rossum feels like a blast in the past, so it's nice that she's having another moment. We love that for Emmy. We really do. I went to the cinema. Yeah. What did you see, Pray Tell? I saw the Paw Patrol movie.

3:49And how was that? It was thrilling. I love going to the cinema. Is this the first Paw Patrol movie or like have they been doing this? No, they've been doing this. But this is Paw Patrol Dino Island. And it was very exciting. And it really was like the rumination on man's ruining of natural environments. It was. Wow. I was moved. And how about your children? They were less moved but equally titillated. Was it a well-attended theater showing? It was not. It was an 11 a.m. and there were like five of us. But, you know, I do think that kids' movies are a great business proposition because you sell double the tickets because every child has to have a chaperone.

4:36So true. Wow. Okay, so Chloe, besides seeing Paw Patrol, what else were you up to this weekend? Well, I did a lot of crafting. Oh, what kind? Alice and I were doing collages. And then we went to the Bridgewater Country Fair, which was huge. Okay. What did you, like, get there? There was fried dough, which was exciting. Artie got a axolotl stuffed animal from the balloon dart game. And Artie and I did the most terrifying spinning ride that made me feel so ill. Yeah. Is that fair like one weekend every year or is it like go on for a long time? It is one weekend every year. Oh, wow. Okay. And then there's another fair in Goshen, Labor Day weekend.

5:26Okay, huge. And I also, I went to Film Forum last week during the Visconti Festival and saw White Nights, which was really, really a Mastroianni masterclass. Wow. Oh, my God. I was thinking about him. I'm always thinking about him. But I was thinking about him specifically going into Venice because his daughter with Catherine Deneuve, Chiara Mastroianni, has a film and will be there. And I'm just obsessed with her. I'm like, the blood that runs through her veins. I feel like Venice must be like a second home to her. You know what I mean? Like, that's just sort of, like, her play. So I'm very excited to see her on Melito next week, among actually other things that we're looking forward to.

6:06Like, I mean, do you have any films that you're looking forward to this fall, actually? Yes. I loved the play Ink. I saw it in the U.K. like 10 years ago with my mother about a young Rupert Murdoch taking Fleet Street. And Claire Foy is in the film adaptation, which is coming out this fall. Who's the actor in that? It's also Jack O 'Connell, Guy Pearce. Ooh, Guy Pearce, I think, is playing young Murdoch. And it's directed by Danny Boyle. That will be good. Claire Foy, I think, also is sort of, like, underappreciated. Don't sleep on Claire Foy. Totally. We love Claire Foy. I mean, so that will be at Venice.

6:45I mean, some of the things I'm looking forward to at Venice, there's, I mean, and I think Taylor and Lisa and Liam kind of get into this as well. But there's Werner Herzog's Bucking Fasterds starring the Mara sisters, which I'm thrilled about because I love a Rooney Mara sighting in any context, really. They're playing twins. I wonder what that will be on the red carpet because I feel like they have quite different styles. I mean, I think Rooney is so much more of a fashion girl in my mind than Kate is. So I think I'm curious to see what that looks like during their promotion of that film. We'll have a new Martin McDonough movie, Wild Horse 9, with John Malkovich.

7:20I mean, Sam Rockwell. Parker Posey. I wonder if we'll see... We love Parker on the red carpet. Oh, my God. She's going to be... I think she's going to be living her best life. I wonder if Phoebe Waller-Ridge will be there supporting her man. I hope so. We love Phoebe. What's Phoebe been up to? Great question. I think the world would love to know. Speaking of red carpets, big... Honestly, the reaction in the Vogue Slack channel was like everyone grabbing their holsters at the same time when Margaret Qualley stepped out with the barefoot Chanel. It was, you know, in Slag it says Marley Marius is typing.

7:55It was like everyone typing at the same time. During the Chanel resort show in Biarritz, there was a barefoot sandal, which is basically a half a sandal. It's just a heel cap. And no toe support at all. It's just a little ankle support. Or a cup. It's a little ankle cup and with leather twine tied around it. And Margaret Qualley stepped out in these on the red carpet of dog stars. Yeah. And a lot of debate in our office. Indeed. I really want someone to try wearing them. We need to test drive them. But I mean, I don't know what the other applications are for such a shoe. Well, we have been talking a lot this summer on the fashion team about barefoot light.

8:45Almost barefoot shoes. Like the zero sandals is supposed to be the closest to barefoot you can get. Max Berlinger has been trying these out. So there is a trend afoot. Oh, my God. Totally. But no, I do feel like Venice is a great red carpet fall kickoff. Yeah, I mean, is there anyone in particular looking forward to seeing? Well, we love an Amal Clooney sighting, and George Clooney is getting an award. So I hope there's a great vintage moment for Amal, who's very good at that. Actually, something that Radhika Seth, our colleague at British Folk, wrote about a couple weeks ago is how, in fact, like some of the big, some of the movies that we're expecting to be Oscar contenders in the coming year are skipping Venice, like and just going to like the New York Film Festival, going to like Toronto.

9:41because, like, her argument, which I thought was sort of compelling, was that, like, the critics in Venice can be kind of tough, and if you get a bad review there, it can kind of just, like, set these movies up for failure going further into the season. Like, a year ago, that was when Luca Guadagnino and Julia Roberts and Io Debrey were in Venice promoting After the Hunt, and it was not really well-received there, and that sort of set it up for kind of failure going into the season. It was kind of hard for it to regain momentum after that, And so Rad's thinking was that some of these bigger movies that definitely want a shot during awards season are going to kind of wait until they have sort of friendlier press opportunities in New York, in like North America, ultimately, rather than in Europe.

10:23Because in Europe, they're just kind of a bit, maybe these films are under a bit more scrutiny, is sort of the argument. which is to say it's not until New York Film Festival that we're going to see like Julianne Moore's movie with Jesse Eisenberg called The Debut and there we'll also see like kind of a bunch of sort of starrier things, do I say. Okay. Yeah. One last thing. We are taping on a Monday morning, but by the time this airs, it'll be August 25th, the day we are celebrating our Vogue September issue at Casa Magazines here in New York City. From 12pm to 6pm, we will have a special phone booth set up where you can leave your questions about Fashion Week, the September issue, or Vogue.

11:09And while you're there, enjoy a popsicle on us exclusively for Vogue subscribers and app users. Plus, stop by for a chance to get your issue signed by Kaya Gerber and Homer Gear from 5 to 6pm. First come, first serve!

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12:10I'm Jesse Sefchak. And I'm Shilpa Oskokovic. And we're senior Tuskogen editors at Bon Appetit and the hosts of the Bon Appetit Bake Club podcast. Bake Club is Bon Appetit's community of confident and curious bakers. We love to bake. Some might even call the two of us obsessive. And we love to talk about all the hows and whys and what didn't work that come with it. Every month, we publish a recipe on bonappetit.com that introduces a baking concept that we think you should know. Then you'll go bake, send us any questions you have. And we'll get together here on the podcast to talk about the recipe.

12:43And this month, we're making plum cheesecake karpatka. It is a spectacle of a giant Polish dessert, and it is so fun. Head on over to ba.com and come and bake along with us. Send us your questions, pictures, and any thoughts to bakeclub at bonappetit.com or find us on Substack. Join us here on the first Tuesday of every month as we debrief about our latest bake. Find BA Bake Club wherever you get your podcasts. Happy baking.

13:14I'm Vincent Cunningham. I'm Nomi Fry. I'm Alex Schwartz, and we host Critics at Large from The New Yorker. Each week we pick a starting point. the new novel you can't stop thinking about, the movie everybody's seeing this weekend, and we kind of go galaxy brain with it. Right, we take the ideas at the center of these things and trace them across history, across mediums, all to get to the bottom of why this particular text is important right now in politics and culture and also in your everyday life. We go highbrow, we go lowbrow, we go everything in between. Food culture to meme culture, Charlie XCX to Toni Morrison.

13:51K-pop to the Kennedys. From horror movies to heated rivalry. From the Oscars to the Met Gala. The Golden Bachelor to Wuthering Heights. Great expectations to Desperate Housewives. That's what we're talking about over here. We're having fun. It's Critics at Large from The New Yorker. Every Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.

14:17Today on the podcast, I'm very excited that we have a little bit of a culture takeover, and we're here to talk about the upcoming fall film festival season. And to do that, I'm joined here in the studio today by my fellow movie enthusiasts, Lisa Wong-Macabasco and Liam Hess. Hi, guys. Hi. Hi. So, yes, this is like, we've been through like the doldrums of summer where there are pretty much no movies to get excited about or see the month of August, particularly what I'm talking about. And then we're just looking at this kind of banquet of movies that are coming in the fall and that are specifically running at three festivals that I think we're here to talk about, which run like one after the other.

14:59And that would be Venice First, which, Liam, you are going to see. I am, yeah. And then Toronto hits, which both Lisa and I are going to, I think you for your first time, me for my, I think my fifth time. And then there's the New York Film Festival, which sort of takes over Lincoln Center here in New York, and we'll both be hitting screenings for that. So what I thought would be fun to do is just sort of run through the films. There's some films that we've already seen and some ones that we're really excited about seeing at these respective festivals. But I also thought we could just do a quick primer on like, what is it about this festival circuit that is special or interesting or why do we want to cover it?

15:35Why do we get excited about it? And Liam, since you're going to Venice, maybe you should start because that's the first one and it's coming, what, like right at the beginning of September? Yeah, if you're a filmmaker, these festivals are sort of the single most consequential launch window in the calendar outside of Cannes or Sundance. dance and if you're a film fan it's it's why you might read about a film and say early september but it doesn't come out till christmas or early the following year so yeah it's really an opportunity for films to be seen to pick up distribution um and to generate buzz as well and venice i'm lucky enough this is my third time going yeah i would say it's probably the most glamorous partly just by virtue of being in Venice.

16:21Everything takes place out on the Lido, which is a sort of barrier island in the lagoon. And that's where all the screenings are and all the premieres. But of course, you know, all of the stars and most of the film industry that descends upon the city for that 10 days, two weeks, they're staying all in and around the city. So you have all of these very fabulous parties that happen alongside the screenings in all sorts of incredible venues, like historic palazzos on the Grand Canal and these kind of incredible hotels that exist within the city. So it's sort of fun in that sense as well because you get to go over in the morning to the Lido, catch some movies, and then usually then I'm whipping out my laptop and getting some work done in the afternoon.

17:06And then in the evening, there's usually some fun event to go to. So the glamour is really like palpable. Like you're kind of seeing it around. you're actually seeing stars in red carpets because the venice is the one that yields all the sort of fashion red carpet pictures that we run and get excited about and talk about here at vogue but your experience is that it's pretty palpable around you i would say so yeah and it's pretty easy to go and you know watch the red carpets and people whizzing around on the water taxis and i think also it sort of has a lot more star wattage because i believe historically can has not allowed streamers to premiere films there because there's very strict rules around having a proper cinema release in France, whereas Venice has always sort of welcomed Netflix and the Amazons of this world with open arms.

17:54So it tends to bring a bit more kind of Hollywood star on it. Yeah. I mean, there's also an element of Venice where there are movies that are not in competition that sort of appear there as big sort of promotional moments. I feel like maybe the Top Gun movie or one of the Mission Impossibles is Tom Cruise falling out of a plane in Venice or something like that. The Joker sequel. Yeah, exactly. There's that element of just like a big Hollywood moment. Yeah, studios seem to have maybe got a little more nervous about premiering these big films at the full festivals. And, you know, last year we saw One Battle After Another and Marty Supreme, neither of which did this sort of full film festival circuit.

18:32And some maybe took that as a sign in advance that maybe the films weren't very good, which obviously didn't end up being the case. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out with some of the other kind of big tentpole studio films later this year in terms of Tom Cruise and Digger or The Social Reckoning. Digger is the inner Ritu film. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so from Venice, we go to Toronto. And listening to you talk about Venice, Liam, is sort of funny because Toronto is probably like the antithesis of what you're describing. It is, I wouldn't call it glamorous. There definitely are stars there and there are red carpets and, you know, movie lovers lining up to catch glimpses of big stars.

19:15And big stars definitely go. But there's like an element of like earnest film adoration in Toronto, which is what people love. And you definitely experience it there. It can sometimes feel a little bit like you're in a giant citywide like movie club, you know? And the like movie fan, movie nerd chatter is ubiquitous and all around you. And I sort of sometimes get a little grumpy about that because I want a little more glamour out of Toronto. I've tried going to a few parties in Toronto. You know, there was like a Chanel dinner I went to once, and I was like, oh, yeah, this is not really what one goes to Toronto for.

19:53But the real thing about Toronto is there are so many movies there. It's an incredible array of international movies, big commercial swings, cool little indies, discovery films, horror movies. Like, it is just a total banquet. And Lisa and I were talking about this before we started recording. Like, when you start to pick through the lineup, it's totally overwhelming, right? Aren't you feeling that? Yeah, there's, like, hundreds of movies you're just scrolling. There's, like, a good amount of Canadian films. Yeah, I think it's just hard because there's just a number, the scale. When you're scrolling through that sort of endless list of movies, what is it that makes something jump out to you as one you actually want to go and see?

20:34Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I think it's like filmmakers that I might have heard of or seen their work before. Obviously, cast actors I want to see. And sometimes it's just like premise or like cinematographer. Also, like, just like kind of like you're looking for something that might be familiar. And if not that, then something that just piques your interest in some way, story or setting. It's more of a risk when you're not familiar with any of the names. Yeah. What about you guys? Yeah. I mean, I, to like look behind the scenes a little bit, it's fun to go to these festivals. But the reason I'm there is really to find some intel for Vogue for the year.

21:10Like, so I often look at the lineup and try to find, like, who are the big actresses or actors that we're excited about this year that we want to just have, like, an early look at? Like, ooh, there's a Margaret Qualley movie at Toronto. Like, that's something we should see because she's constantly in the conversation about what she's up to, how we might cover her. Julianne Moore's in a big movie. You know, like, so those are the ones that start to go to the top of my list so that I can come back to Vogue and say, I've seen this. This is how big it might be or something like that. But then there are other movies that are just like one for me.

21:39You know, like I do one for Vogue and then one for me. And so if there's like a dark, gritty crime caper, I'm like, yes, please, you know. So I find myself at like a horror movie at 930 in the morning on a Thursday there. But the last thing I say about Toronto is that it has this sort of reputation of giving the audience award, which is the culminating award at the end of the festival, to like a very crowd-pleasing sort of commercial-minded movie. Once Upon a Time Green Book, that movie that won the Best Picture, not much loved movie, won the audience award. That film Belfast, if you remember, from a few years ago, kind of slightly more, I don't want to say sentimental, but you know what I'm saying.

22:18Like, that kind of fair does very well at Toronto and fits with the kind of over-earnest mood of the city. So, Venice, Toronto, New York Film Festival. Lisa, you've been to the New York Film Festival probably more than any of us have. What is its character compared to the other two? Yeah, I always say that New York is my favorite film festival out of all of them. You can really sense the hand of curation. It's very curated. That's what it's known for. So, you're not just, like, scrolling through movies. It comes after Cannes, Venice, and Tiff. So they've seen the best of what's out there. And also you've read the reviews of what's out there by now for a good number of things.

22:55So they have kind of like culled the cream of the crop. And I think that they really focus on auteurs and also New York filmmakers and performers and stories. And so that's why it's not surprising that Paper Tiger is the opening night film this year. It's set in Queens. So, yeah, I mean, if you had to only just go to one festival, I feel like you could go to New York and do quite well. Really? Famously, last year, there was like a secret screening of Marty Supreme, a New York movie. So, that's like a very New York Film Festival kind of thing to do amidst all these really interesting sort of smaller foreign films that are really fun to check out.

23:33So, you mentioned Paper Tiger. I thought that might be a fun movie to start talking about because you and I have seen it. Tell us a little bit about it and why people are excited about it. It's by James Gray, a very regarded filmmaker, and it stars Miles Teller and Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson as members of a family. I think it takes place in the 1980s in Queens. Yeah. Amazing borough. And there's a lot of wigs and suits and accents that are a little over the top. And I think there's a mob connection, and it's kind of about how this family is handling this mob connection. I mean, it's kind of a thriller, right?

24:10Like, in a way, James Gray's movies are often very classical and kind of like almost a little romantic. His last movie was also set in Queens. What was it called? Armageddon Time. Armageddon Time, yeah. There's something about his work that is very male to me. Yeah, totally. Here, here. I don't want to say a dad wave. But not maybe if the shoe fits. So, I don't know. He's not for me, I think. Right. Yeah, I mean, I am the only one in this room who kind of liked Paper Tiger. I was very happy to sit there for two hours. I really liked Miles Teller. The question I want to ask about this, though, is like, what do we do with Adam Driver?

24:48Because I feel like everyone gets super excited about Adam Driver films. And then this is a quite mannered performance to me. And I found myself asking in one of our group Slack conversations, like, is Adam Driver a great actor or not? I mean, I like Adam Driver, but I feel like he's one of those actors who very much picks his projects based on the director rather than the script. which has led to some like real clangers along the way. Gucci, House of Gucci. House of Gucci. This kind of reminded me of that. Was it? No, not Cosmopolis. Oh, Megalopolis. Megalopolis. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway, Paper Tiger, check it out.

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25:19It is coming out November 13th. So some of these festival films already have a release date and are kind of building buzz around their release. And that is definitely going to be an awards season conversation around that movie. Another one you've seen that I'm really interested in because I love Drive My Car. And that filmmaker, please tell us his name and tell us about his new movie, Lisa. Ryusuke Hamaguchi. The movie's called All of a Sudden. It stars Virginia Fira and Tao Okamoto. And it's about these two women who meet against the backdrop of an adult care home, I guess I would say. And it's set in Paris.

25:56And the two actresses, they speak in English and French and Japanese. They both do. And they share the Best Actress Prize at Cannes. And like Drive My Car, which is also a three-hour movie with lots of talking. Yeah, and a really cool BMW. It's about human connection and listening and empathy. And I think some people might grouse about the length of it, but I think that's part of the project, which is about giving people time and attention and what it means to see someone as fully human. So I think if you like Drive My Car, you'll probably like this as well. Can we talk about Fjord? So that is a movie I'm excited about.

26:37that's playing at, certainly at Venice and at New York Film Festival too. I think it played at Cannes actually. And it played at Cannes. And Lisa, you've seen it. Yes. Oh, you have? Yes. Oh, and that's sort of like my number one film that I really want to see. So why are we excited about this movie? Because it won the Palme d 'Or at Cannes and I feel like it was the number one thing people were talking about coming out of Cannes. Christian Munju, it's the first time he's really worked with Hollywood actors, I might say, right? And it's Renata Reinsva and Sebastian Stan. It's set in Norway at a fjord, a beautiful icy fjord.

27:12And it's about this couple who we just mentioned, Renata Reinsman, Sebastian Stan. And they move from Romania to this tiny little hamlet, I guess I might say, with their five children. They have quite a number of children. And they're more a traditional, devout family. And it's kind of about a situation they find themselves in that brings their religious devoutness up against this liberal Norwegian state. Yeah. And so there's a lot of long takes with talking. There's courtroom scenes. Yeah. I have a bit of a funny story about Fjord, actually. Because when I was – I think I might have told you guys in our very active film group chat when it happened.

27:52But I was actually in Norway working on a travel story, staying in a very lovely hotel in one of these fjords. And I was walking through the lobby, and it's in the middle of absolutely nowhere. And I was like, I swear to God, that is Renata Reinsman, Sebastian Stan. Did a few passes back and forth, trying to be subtle, just to make sure. Turns out it was, and they were actually throwing the wrap party for fjord at this hotel. So, yeah, I've been very invested in its success because I feel like I was a part of it in some way. You were. and I'm hoping that it does really well on awards season so that I can dine out on that anecdote forever I wanted to shout out Renata Rensva because there are like number of frankly European actresses we love who seem to be having big festival moments Renata is one of them with Fjord but we should talk about Sandra Hewler we should definitely talk about Sandra Hewler so Liam will you tell us why we care about Sandra Hewler well it's sort of funny because she's been around for a long time and I remember seeing her in that film Tony Erdman which is probably like 15 years ago or something, right?

28:51At least 10. She was amazing in that. And then I sort of low-key forgot about her. Okay. And then obviously she had this banner year, like I think it was 2024 with Anatomy of a Fall and the Zone of Interest that both were up for the Best Picture Oscar, I think. Isn't Zone of Interest like your favorite movie of all time? I wouldn't say my favorite. It's kind of a hard film to... Yeah, exactly. You sort of sound like a psychopath if you say that's your favorite film. But I'd certainly say it was like, I think it's sort of the greatest film of like the past decade to me. Wow. I was totally blown away by that film.

29:23And her performance in it as well was so chilling. And that, in contrast with a very different, much more emotionally charged performance in Anatomy of a Fall, I think just really put her on the map again. And of course, she has two very acclaimed films coming out this year as well. In festivals, right. Have you seen either of them? I've seen them both. Oh, wow. Give us the lowdown. And give us the duration of both of these films. The running time. Because we've heard about a three-hour and 15-minute talk fest and, you know, a procedural or a sort of issue-laden movie that is also over two hours.

30:00Tell us about this. Yeah, you're asking what I look for when I'm looking at movies. It's just sort by runtime, if you can. So these are two movies that are both in black and white. They're both no more than 95 minutes each. And one is called Rose, and that's by Marcus Schleinzer. And one is called Fatherland, and that's by Pavel Polakoski, who did Cold War. And I think you might really like Rose. And for me, Rose is the best thing that I've seen so far this year. Oh, wow. The director used to do casting for Michael Hanukkah. Oh, wow. And it really has that Hanukkah vibe of, like, chilling. And it really haunted me.

30:40I thought about it for a long time afterwards. What's the premise again? Sandra Huller plays a woman who's living as a man in 17th century Germany. And living as a man means kind of like, you know, she fought in a war as a soldier. And also she's taking advantage of all the benefits that being a man at that time brings. So she's a landowner. She eventually takes a wife. And it's that tension of performing gender and living with the secrets. And it's so arresting and devastating. I really liked it a lot yeah sounds like a big meaty role something for her to really sink her teeth into for sure and two roles like that that and Fatherland which is has to do with the writer Thomas Mann that's right like a trip through Germany yes exactly she plays the daughter of Thomas Mann like to have two roles like that coming in an award season makes you feel like she's going to be talked about well and Digger she's in Digger she's in Digger you're right and she's in Project Hail Mary that's right I haven't seen it yes I haven't seen that right but those are those are four big roles did you watch Project Hail Mary?

31:42No, but I want to. You love a science fiction epic. I'm really behind on my cinema. My son watched that on the plane. He really liked the pet rock. It's a plane movie. I'm going to watch it on the plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. One more European actress I want to talk about, which is Lea Seydoux, who has a big awards festival season. She is in two, maybe two and a half films, because I saw her name in an ensemble film for Toronto. But the two I want to talk about is Gentle Monster, which premiered at Cannes and is playing at Toronto, and The Unknown, also playing at Toronto. And I've seen Gentle Monster, and that's going to – it was bought by Netflix.

32:15It's directed by Marie Kreutzer, who's an Austrian director. You may have remembered her movie Corsage, which I kind of had a lot of time for. And I was knocked out by this movie. I mean, I think it probably – it's not a perfect movie, but it's one of those ones that I have not stopped thinking about. And I was telling Lisa I went in cold. I didn't really know what the premise was. Like, maybe I'd heard about it in Cannes, but I hadn't really thought through what the premise was. and I guess spoiler you know skip forward if you don't want to hear it but it's about Léa Seydoux's husband is accused of having a cache of child pornography and how that sort of blows up her life and the aftermath of that and I found it a totally absorbing quite painful but like really thoughtful movie and I have so much time for Léa Seydoux I just feel like she is on a roll her performance gets more and more interesting and then she's in this sort of batty-looking ensemble film called Alpha Gang with Lily Rose Depp and Kate Blanchett and a bunch of others from the directors of Sasquatch Sunset, which makes me feel like it's going to be, you know, probably not my speed, but like, I'll check that out too.

33:22There's one more that we've seen ahead of time, and then I want to get to the ones that we haven't seen that we're excited about and kind of a lightning round. This movie looks crazy. Hope is the Korean sort of like alien action movie. Yes. There's always one of these at festival season, which is like a big special effects kind of like popcorn movie. And this one seems to be it, but Lisa, you've seen it, so you tell me if I should be excited about this movie. Yeah, I think you should be. Definitely watch the trailer, everybody. The trailer is like completely makes you want to see it. And it's got that wonderful actress Ho-yeon in it.

33:54She's our two-time cover star. Two-time cover star toting like an enormous automatic weapon. Like, it's great. It's like the size of her in the trailer. Ho-yeon is so badass in the movie. I love her. I feel like she really shows what she can do. She's like really action star mode. I feel like we've been talking about so many films that are really like idea heavy or like, you know, trying to convey a message almost to the point of like didacticism. And which is like, I think, putting like a number of people off. But this is like brain off, spectacle only, just like have fun in a movie theater and watch it with a crowd for sure.

34:30And there's been a little bit of like chatter about the… CGI? Yeah, about the CGI. I remember. It's an alien invasion movie or something like that, right? Yeah, okay. Our esteemed colleague Radika Seth at British Vogue, I remember that was what really put her off the film when she saw it because she said the CGI was appalling. But did they fix it? I heard that they fixed it. But I don't even know if the one that I saw was the final one. So I think it's worth seeing. It's like a rollicking fun time. I feel like you'll get caught up in it. So if you're at all interested, you should check that. Cool.

35:02Can't wait.

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37:46What is your top 2C at Venice? I am very excited to see a film called Possible Love, a Korean film by a director called Lee Chang Dong, whose previous film came out quite a while ago, I think about eight years ago, and it's called Burning. Oh, I love that movie. It's based on a Murakami short story, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Such a beautiful movie. Such a beautiful movie and such a unique sort of tone. and the premise of the new film, I think, is that a couple is approached by a documentary filmmaker to take part in her latest project and then their lives become increasingly intertwined and it leads to sinister happenings or revelations come to light.

38:29I mean, I don't know. I haven't seen it, so who's to say? But I'm sure it will take us to unexpected places. Do you have a runtime on that? I suspect long. I don't. I suspect long. I remember Burning being very long, actually. Totally. Burning was a little too long for you. I remember. Whenever I call it maybe beautiful, what I'm really saying is it's long. It's kind of funny. You were talking about it going to see a horror movie at 9 a.m. It's like sometimes like, yeah, I remember in Venice also going to like an 8 a.m. screening of that film Baby Girl with Nicole Kidman. And it begins with a very explicit sort of masturbation scene.

39:03And I was like, woof. I think there was like I heard some Italians behind me being like, Madonna. I saw Baby Girl at an absolutely jam-packed Toronto screening. And it is just an indescribable experience to watch those incredibly discomforting sex scenes with, like, all of these people jammed around you at this festival. I was in the center row. There was no way to get out. And I just was like, okay, buckle up, people. Okay, the movie I'm most excited about at Toronto to see is Ink, which is Danny Boyle's new movie. and it's about the rise of Murdoch and the daily newspaper The Sun. So set in the sort of 1960s tabloid culture of London.

39:45Whenever Danny Boyle comes out with a new project, I just need to see it. It leaped out at me, and it's also got Jack O 'Connell, who I just think is an incredible actor with a ton of range. So, Lisa, what is your top two C from your festivals? We're talking about movies that are maybe fun to watch in a crowd. I really want to see Bucking Fastered, which is the Werner Herzog with Rooney Mara and Kate Mara, who are, of course, sisters in real life. And here they're going to play twins who speak at the same time, speak in unison, I guess. They dress alike, and I think that they eventually fall in love with the same man who's Orlando Bloom.

40:24And it's actually based on a bizarre true story. And, you know, Herzog is in his 80s at this point, but he has an incredible body of work. especially when it comes to these themes of like obsession and codependency and just weird human behavior. So I feel like this might be good, it might be bad, but I feel like it's something that might be fun to watch in a crowd. What a title as well. Bucking faster. I know, it's playing at all the festivals. So it's playing at Venice, Toronto, New York, and Telluride, which we haven't talked about. That hasn't released its lineup yet. But it's playing at all four.

40:57Back to you, Liam, one more film from Venice you are excited about seeing. So I'm very excited about this film, Primetime, starring Robert Pattinson, and set in the mid-2000s, and it's based on that guy, Chris Hansen, who used to do that show, To Catch a Predator, which was obviously very controversial. It would sort of lure pedophiles into - Sting operations. Yeah, sting operations, exactly. And then they would go and they would film it, but of course, this led to all sorts of, some of them committed suicide and so very very controversial subject matter and also quite an astonishing just from the trailer transformation from Robert Pattinson who's also really having a bumper year you know he's in the drama he was in The Odyssey?

41:46The Odyssey that's right yeah he was a real standout in The Odyssey as well I think. We had a disagreement about The Odyssey Did we? What was our disagreement? You liked it. Yeah I did. I liked it too I don't know what Taylor didn't like. That was a three-hour movie that I wouldn't call beautiful. I feel like you're in the minority on this one. It was a fun time of the movies, yeah. Oh, the opposite. Okay, all right. So, Primetime looks great. Looks like a real sort of buzzy movie to see. Yeah, it looks very stylishly made, shot in a very interesting way, and it's made by this director, Lance Oppenheimer.

42:16Okay, I have another one. It's a small one, and I'm keeping to my theme of, like, movies about media and literary life. There's a very small movie called Magazine, which is playing in Toronto by a first-time filmmaker. I know her as Allie Peckman. She has written for Vogue. I've edited her before. Oh, no way. And it stars Lily McInerney, who's this actress that I have so much time for because I saw her in a really small micro-indie called Palm Trees and Power Lines that I thought was so good. And she's been in a couple of other things since. But this is about—I just have to read the, like, quick summary.

42:48set in the microcosm of New York's literary scene circa 2011. So this is like yesterday's literary scene. It's about like a small kind of Paris Review style journal and probably all of the sort of like, she becomes tangled in a web of Eros cultural gatekeeping and office intrigue. So I hope that's about 90 minutes, but I am totally down for it. So magazine. One more from you, Lisa. I'm going to talk about Misty Green. and this is Chris Rock's new film. His last one was Top 5, which I think ended up being pretty well-regarded and that was in 2014. And I'm really looking forward to this. It's got Rosalind Eleazar and who is, I think, one of the best things about Slow Horses, which I know, Taylor, you're a fan of.

43:33Oh my God, such a fan, yeah. And they're calling this a real breakout performance for her. The trailer looks really great. It's got a stacked cast, also Adam Driver is in it. And it's a Hollywood satire about race. And so I'm definitely intrigued to hear Chris Rock's take on that. There are so many other movies on this lineup, on the various lineups of these festivals that we didn't talk about, but I think we've done a lot of heavy lifting for the film enthusiasts listening. And maybe we can gather again after we've actually been to these festivals and go through our favorites because I think there are always like discoveries and things that we weren't expecting that really break out.

44:09And I think it would be fun to reconvene. Is it a plan? Sounds great. Okay. Thanks, guys. Here's to some more 8 a.m. screenings of erotic thrillers. Yeah, totally. Sign me up. Sign me up.

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September is just around the corner and with the start of the new month comes the fall film festival circuit. Taylor Antrim served as a guest host on today’s episode and was joined by fellow Vogue editors and cinephiles Liam Hess and Lisa Wong Macabasco. They discussed the slate of fall film festivals ahead. Liam will be attending Venice—the first and most glamorous of the bunch—and then Taylor and Lisa will both be headed to Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) as well as New York Film Festival (NYFF).

“We do get the opportunity sometimes to see some of these festival films before they come out in the festivals because they're trying to drum up support from Vogue and other, other outlets,” Taylor explained. As such, they began their conversation by shouting out some of the films they’ve already had the chance to see. First on that list was the New York centric film Paper Tiger, by James Gray starring Adam Driver, Miles Teller, and Scarlett Johansson. “There’s a lot of wigs and suits and accents that are a little over the top,” Lisa noted of the thriller that takes places in Queens, New York in the eighties. After watching the film, Taylor found himself asking his group chats “Is Adam Driver a great actor or not?” The cohort weighed in on this quandary. 

They weighed in on All of A Sudden, Ryusuke Hamaguchi’s French language debut, Fjord, Cristian Mungiu’s legal thriller starring podcast favorite Renate Reinsve and Sebastian Stan,  Hope, an action film starring two-time Vogue cover star Ho-yeon, and Gentle Monster, a vehicle for an incredible performance from Léa Seydoux. In a final lightning round, they each shared the two films they are most excited to see at the festivals. For Liam, he is looking forward to catching Possible Love by Lee Chang-dong and Primetime, a striking portrayal of television host Chris Hansen. Lisa is excited for Bucking Fastard, starring the Mara sisters as twins, and Misty Green, Chris Rock’s directorial return promising a commentary about race in Hollywood. Taylor rounded it out with Ink from Danny Boyle, a biographical film about Rupert Murdoch’s acquisition of The Sun, and Magazine, an indie pick from Vogue contributor Alexandra Pechman. 

Also on today’s episode, Chloe is joined by Marley Marius to talk about the big news of the week: the reported return of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to the UK. They also discuss the latest movies they’ve seen (Paw Patrol for Chloe and Novak Djokovic: The Wolf in Winter for Marley) and which stars they are most excited to see on the Venice red carpet (hint: it starts with Parker and ends with Posey). And they gushed over Margaret Qualley’s Chanel barefoot sandals which she rocked at a recent red carpet appearance for The Dog Stars in London.

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