How I Use Clawdbot to Run My Business and Life 24/7

0:00You've heard of Claudebot, you've heard of Claudecode, you hear that people are unleashing crazy productivity gains, but you don't know how. In this episode, I'm going to show you a bunch of different use cases, 10 plus use cases for how to use Claudebot and how to use AI to be a way more productive person in your personal life and also in your business life. I brought in one of the craziest tinkerers on the planet to come on, and he is at the forefront for using Clodbot for just pushing it to the extreme. And I just asked him, hey, can you come on the podcast and just show us how you're using it so other people could copy you?

0:40And he's got just the craziest setup. He even has, you know, one setup where he DMs Kevin from the office, David Goggins. He's got this crazy setup where these agents are helping him run his day-to-day life and his wildly successful businesses. And it was just a treat to have him come on and see how he's pushing the edges. By the end of this episode, you will have your creative juices flowing for how you can use Claudevod and how you can use AI to be an extremely productive person. I don't think you can watch this and not be inspired for all the different use cases to integrate AI in your life.

1:22Enjoy the episode.

1:32Kits is a guy I've been following on the internet for a while. He seems like out of control, but he's got, in a good way, he's one of my favorite followers when it comes to vibe coding. So Kits, by the end of this episode, what are people tactically going to take away from it? First of all, they're going to get severe ADHD. If you have it, welcome. If you don't have it, you're going to get it. What you're going to get is like a info dump and brain dump of like a gazillion productivity tips. We can try to stay on topic. That never works with me. That's why with Greg, we didn't plan any agenda. We didn't plan a title.

2:07We don't know what the title is going to be. we're going to talk about productivity, CloudBot, personal AI assistance, self-hosting, building a live OS, and a trillion other things. Dude, you're firing me up. Yeah, let's go. And let's go. Maybe we can start screen sharing. So you've intrigued me on this idea around personal OS. I'm curious how you're using CloudBot. Teach us. Teach us. We want the kid's brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a bunch of tabs here. I didn't prepare a bunch of notes. I have like a one note with things. My CloudBot is heavily personalized and I have like tons of personal data right now.

2:46The last few days have been a roller coaster, so we won't be able to interact with it, but we can go through all the things that I've done with it going from the tweets that I have here. So how I'm using CloudBot right now, I'm just moving to a new workspace. I'm using Discord basically. And as you can see here, I have like a one Discord called Kite and I have a one Discord called Zkit. Zkit is just like a flip on my name, which is supposed to be the company Discord. So what I have in CloudBot is like, first of all, there's like one gateway. So when you run CloudBot, it's like everyone else running CloudBot.

3:19I don't run multiple CloudBots. I have it running on my Mac Studio and there's like one gateway that then to that gateway, you can interface with Telegram, iMessage, WhatsApp, your phone. I'm making a Metaglasses app right now to be able to connect through the Metaglasses. And in Telegram, I made a couple of bots with different personas. I think this is crucial. So you can see in my Discord here, I have Guilfoyle. So Guilfoyle is a character from Silicon Valley for people that don't know. And his skills and his abilities within my CloudBot are to be professional, to be an engineer, and he's equipped with all the skills to be an engineer, like React Native, Vercel, Coolify, Managing, SSH, GitHub, whatever.

4:00He doesn't need to know about my home assistant, doesn't need to know about my groceries and the other stuff. then in my um in my personal telegram i have a couple of personas that i made i think i have them somewhere in the in the open tweets and every persona is equipped with a different style of talking different avatar different name and uh different skills these are my personas this is a group called arkham asylum this is where i keep all of my bots uh david goggins my fitness coach he talks like david goggins he like swears says all the things trained on his personality cares only about, they all care about my life OS, but about specific parts.

4:37We have Kevin, which is my accountant. I would say not a very good accountant because he's kind of dumb sometimes. Dr. Cox, who cares about my health and stuff. So all the health stuff, I don't have a screenshot of that, but I took all of my blood results and made like a UI for browsing my blood data and seeing what goes up, what goes down. And Dr. Cox is in charge of like only medical stuff. This is kind of gimmicky, but it's a nice separation because if you talk to only one bot all the time about everything, sometimes you cannot separate things out. So you can just create multiple, give them fun personalities from TV shows, movies, whatever.

5:10And like Darlene is, for example, our home manager. So me and my wife and Darlene are in the family group and she will manage our entire home. Groceries, ordering stuff, shopping lists, whatever it is. so if someone sees this and is like i want to do something similar to this could you give people just a little bit of how they can set up their own kevin malone their own david goggins within cloud bot um i would for for everyone who's been asking me stuff like my answer is like just ask your bot because that's the coolest thing right like i didn't know how to make these personas i asked on discord asked on twitter i'm like fuck it i'll ask the bot and the bot guides you through, even clicks through the browser and helps you to do this.

5:54The answer is this is like one CloudBot gateway. It just serves multiple personas. Perfect. So the cool thing about using Discord compared to Telegram, WhatsApp, Slack, and whatever, is you can group things into sections. So here, as you can see, I have nicely organized sections for everything. And within those sections, you can have channels. Within the channels, you can have help topics. So as you can see here, if I go to customer threads, there's nothing now because I'm moving from my old discord. But the idea is there is a customer's channel here where I would talk to Guilfoyle or whoever about the customer support.

6:32And they scrape my mail and they scrape my scrape or fetch it from API, my DMs. And anytime they find something related to my products, they would open a new post here and be like, hey, a customer is having like a billing issue. We select a billing issue, blah, blah, blah. They would put the post here and then a sub agent will immediately start processing that customer. But I only go into the forum if I care about individual customers. Most of the time I talk into the customers channel about customers in general. So I'll tell my bot and I've already done this. So, hey, find every customer who, what the hell is that?

7:04Find every customer who had an issue with license activation and do this and that. So it's going to spawn all the threads. You can see the thinking process. What is it doing for every customer? But I control it from one main thread. And, you know, I just see the comment that someone's going to say right now, like, why is this better than just using Cloud Code or another tool? Like, why is it better to have this set up over any other set up? I like, I'm honestly, this last few days have been very tiring on Twitter. I've been battling people about this opinion. and I got to a point where like, fuck it.

7:43If you don't see it, you don't see it. Like there are people who've been trying to shove this in people's faces. Like, look at this, it's so productive. But for some people, I think the FOMO is preventing them from seeing it clearly. And they're going to find these nitpicks like, oh, I can just do this with cloud code. And the answer is like, fine, do it in the worst way. Like, I don't know what I can say aside from everything we're going to say from this podcast. If someone listens to all of this and concludes that this is not worth it, there's nothing you can say to convince. So your answer to that is stick with me.

8:12I'm going to show you, I'm going to keep going and I'm going to show you why this is an extremely productive and optimized way to run your life and run your business. Another aspect is the self-learning part. I think for the first time people saw that how an AI can self-learn and learn new skills because for GPT and for cloud, you got to install connectors and you got to go to a UI and they don't have access to a shell. This having access to a shell, meaning you can tell it, like I literally told it, find my printer and print something cool. And it just found it on my network and it printed some ASCII art and it printed like a nice message for me.

8:49Or I was like, find my, I don't know, displays that I have at home and through Home Assistant, try to cast like a dashboard of my life. So it figures out, goes on the network, goes to Home Assistant, finds my TV, makes an HTML dashboard and casts it on my TV. Like both ChatGPT and Claude, like the UI don't have the ability to like self-learn and kind of find their way around limitations because this has literally access to your anything that you can do on your computer and on your network this can do it too so before we before we wrap up about the the interface like another cool thing you can do in discord is basically these little things which are like it's not ideal but it's nice that you can start threads like within my skills i have like a thread called benji skill and once i'm done with it i am planning to close this one.

9:40So channels are staying forever and threads are like something temporary, like a task that we're working on or a skill that I'm adding or whatever. And it's still not in the core of CloudBot yet. It doesn't know how to create Discord threads, but you can just teach it and tell it, hey, you don't have it, but figure out the Discord API and start creating threads every time I add a to-do, let's say. So Discord is, compared to my interface that I showed you. Discord is the closest thing, especially if you make one for work and you make one for private and then you have like a nice separation. Okay.

10:14So good tip. Your recommendation is don't start with iMessage, Telegram. When you're setting up CloudBot, start with Discord. I would not say that for beginners, to be honest. I would just say avoid WhatsApp because it's like the most finicky setup. I would say if you're a Telegram user, start with that. If you're not a Telegram user, what are you doing? Like I hate anyone who texts me on like WhatsApp, Viber, whatever. So actually iMessage or Telegram would be a good start to just feel the power of the bot, to make it learn things, to make it learn skills. And it's less frictiony because not everyone wants Discord on their phone.

10:52Discord is like confusing for a lot of people. And most of the magic here is like you're able to take it with you on your phone. And I don't want like 15 Discord communities pinging my phone for whatever. This would be the next step, I would say. Okay. Step one, feel the magic. Step two, double down on the magic with Discord. Got it. Yes. Last thing I want to add on platforms before we move to something else is I haven't explored Slack yet. So I'm still not, I haven't set up a Slack, but a lot of people are familiar with the Slack interface for work. So I would say if you want to make like a work specific agent, most people would easily transition to Slack because they've already used it and they know all the quirks and it actually has a bunch of features that other platforms might not have so all of these like telegram discord slack they come with different benefits that you get in the one or don't get in the in the other cool what's next all right let's see which tabs i have open here i have no idea this is the uh what yeah canceling my missive subscription so missive has let's talk about email because email is like a huge topic and people are actually getting their accounts hacked and stuff and people are scared because oh my god my email yesterday uh yesterday someone tried to um prompt inject my cloud bot for the first time because i'm a pub i'm like i have followers my email is in a billion places and people of course are going to try to do that so my advice first of all there would be like first of all if you're just starting don't even connect your email.

12:24I know one of the benefits is like, read my email, don't. Second of all, while we're talking about security, do not host it on a virtual private server, whatever. If you can host it on your own machine and Dockerize it so it doesn't have access to everything, start there and then slowly maybe open up because so many people thought it's going to be less scary to host it on a VPS. And then they left ports exposed and they left a bunch of stuff vulnerable, basically for someone to attack them. So if you don't know what you're doing, start with this. dockerize, no email access. If you give email access, do not use cheap models.

12:57So people are trying to save and Pete has been saying this in the discourse since day one, that if you're trying to save, even with Sonnet, even like some people are using Haiku or whatever, like it's going to be stupid. It's going to be prompt injected and then you're fucked because this has literally access, can wipe your entire system, delete all of your emails, go to your GitHub, install malware, like it has your Apple credentials to deploy apps, whatever. So got to be careful what you give it access to. So use like, I prefer Opus most of the time for this and Codex for coding. So CloudBot can actually spawn sub-agents that are specialized in coding.

13:32So I have a skill that tells it anytime you need to code, you don't do it yourself. Spawn a sub-agent that's using Codex because Codex is better for coding. So regarding this tweet, I connected my email, but I'm very careful about it. So I'm always using the smartest models. And I don't have a webhook. some people have this where every email immediately gets pinged into the bot and filters through the bot. That's stupid. Because then the bot just gets the email without any context. And then it might follow the instructions in the email, like send me my bank account credentials or whatever. So if you do it, I would do it where you tell the bot or it's on a cron job periodically doing something with your email, but not getting every email and processing every email.

14:14Even though I try yesterday, like I took the prompt injection, I tried to put it myself into my CloudBot and it laughed and it was like, no, I'm not falling for this. So Opus is actually careful to an extreme point. Like I've given it a phone number. I bought a phone number with Twilio and a couple of days ago, I wanted to test it. I was like, I'm not going to set an alarm. You wake me up at 8.30 and it set a task to call me. And then I wake up later. Of course, the alarm didn't work. It didn't call me. And I go on my phone and it says, haha, I'm not falling for this. You don't wake up this early.

14:43So I'm not falling for someone's prompt injection who wants to wake you up so early. So even when you give it the instructions, it's like insanely careful to not be, if some, I think the more it evolves, the more it's going to learn from its memory, the more it's going to learn about you and it will know whether you would do something as stupid as asking for your bank credentials or email, et cetera. I mean, prompt objections will evolve also, but got to be careful. So is your vision for the future that customer support, maybe in like three, four, five years, 99 % of it is handled via a cloud box?

15:17What are you talking about? There's no five years. There's no three years. I don't want to sound like a doomer. We're going back to my previous track record. In 2017, I had a slide before AI was mentioned. I had a slide saying in the future, front end development will look like managers and higher people in the company will talk to a voice assistant and they will say what they want and the browser will show them what they want, which means all the layers in the company are going to thin out unless we get to like a couple of people. So I said this like more than 10 years ago and it's now unfolding.

15:45So when I say, Like you see all of these Doomer and meme takes, like you got to make money before we go into the permanent underclass and blah, blah, blah. Not customer support, not IT overall or programming, whatever. Everything is toast within a year or two. And just to put a little asterisk there, the toast means if you're not an equipped person who's on the forefront of AI and you're not gathering your skills and you don't come to work with your army of agents, the 18 year old who just studied CloudBot and all of these things and it just loaded up with skills and stuff, it's going to absolutely destroy you.

16:21So there's going to be people remaining within layers of the company, but it's going to be like a virus spreading, like one crack kid coming with all of their agents, replacing three engineers and then just moving up, moving up, moving up until you don't need that many people to form like your own business. Yeah, and I think we're starting to see that on, you know, we, Amazon today, I think is laying off 15 ,000 employees. Pinterest, I think, just laid off up to 15 % of their employees. So all within the name of optimization and AI. So I think the big companies even are realizing, like, hey, we can do a lot more with a lot less.

17:00So that's why I'm interested in learning. I'm interested in learning because I want to be the most productive person I could be. Yes. Yeah. And I think CloudBot is like the final unlock in this glue, let's call it. I don't know how to call it. Like the ultimate tool that can speed run the rest of your automations and the rest of your learning skills, whatever. Anything else you wanted to show in terms of use cases? I mean we just got started there's like 70 tabs left and my voice is already gone yeah we can keep it shorter on each one of the topics just so we can show more stuff so as I said from email classification I'm canceling my email subscription because I don't need to look at my email anymore it's handled by the bots they're doing cron jobs they're doing whatever I don't want to look at my email I want to interface with my email through chat and I don't ever want to look at it period yet um we can wrap this one up or you want to ask something about emails yeah let's wrap it up i want to do like lightning round like boom yeah let's do a lightning round this one is a cool addition a lot of people haven't heard of this it's called anticaptcha.com and you're you're paying a small subscription i think you can start with five dollars for human workers i don't know how ethical is this i don't condone it i've tried it i haven't implemented it yet but it works behind the scenes this exists for years by the way when you want automation, but the bots are stuck on captcha, there's a human somewhere, which is going to solve your captcha for like zero point, whatever dollars they're, they're paying them.

18:32So as I said, I don't know how ethical it is, but if you equip your bot with this, it will basically never get stuck in captcha. Even though my cloud bot surprised me yesterday, it was booking a flight for me. And it was like, Oh, what are these? Oh, brooms. Cool. I selected all the brooms and it just moved on casually. You know, it wasn't stuck on the captcha at all. So this one is a cool service. Next one. Yeah, let's do it. This is pretty cool. And this is going to be a thing. I don't know if you've seen smart rings, which are coming out, not fitness rings, but like AI rings are coming out.

19:05I actually haven't seen this. Well, time to get people into another rabbit hole. Because there's like, there's a Kickstarter. There's like one more company. And there's Pebble. I don't know if you know what Pebble got resurrected, the smartwatch company. They're now issuing their own watch. it's like some ridiculous price, like$60 or$70 or something like this. The only problem is like it doesn't, the battery is not rechargeable and it's going to die in like five years or whatever, but probably all of us will. So that's why it won't matter. It has a cool button on it. And I think this paired with the Meta glasses or this paired with your AirPods and whatever is the missing interface to like super hyper productivity.

19:43Because as you can see in the picture, he's intentionally wearing it on this finger, which you have access to all the time. and I usually do to-dos and other stuff to my watch. So I have this button on the ultra set up to go to Benji and anytime I dictate something, like Benji figures out whether it's a to-do, whether it's a habit and does something with it. Now it's going to be switched to CloudBot. But this basically has an API and it just has a microphone. You say whatever, a voice note, a memo, whatever, and they store it in their phone app through Bluetooth and then you have an API to send it wherever you want, which is going to be mental because you can use it to, from controlling your lights to talking with your bot about customers and whatever.

20:22Like it's going to be the new superpower for like creating magic from your wrist. So a couple of months until it arrives and then we're going to see what's going on. And then we'll review it on the channel. Yeah, absolutely. This is super cool. Next up. This is cool. And this was self-taught. This was one of the other skills that Claude bot learned. to make like, you cannot cast HTML dashboard to Google Home without a lot of hacks and stuff, but it figured out a workaround. It made the page, screenshotted it as an image and just casted the actual image on it. So now anytime it needs to grab my attention or whatever, it can actually cast to one of my devices at home.

21:06And on the right, I don't know if you know this device, it's called Terminal, T-R-M, whatever, they have like a short name or something. TRMNL Yeah, it's like an e-ink device It's completely programmable So of course CloudBot just asked for my API token I gave it and now anytime it can Display things for my lifeOS, for my automations It can grab my attention, it can paint pictures It can do whatever So this is like where I see this heading Like where I want to head with my smart home Which is not so smart right now Is I'm adding small presence sensors In all of my rooms Which detect the Apple Watch And basically the Apple Watch knows in which room you are at any given time.

21:44And it's instant. Like it can even know the difference whether I'm sitting on my desk or whether I'm close to where the sensor is. And what I'm planning, because Home Assistant has access to all of this info. Anytime I talk to CloudBot, it's going to get a small prompt injected with my GPS location, like whether I'm home or away and my room. So when I'm in a room and I say something to my ring or whatever, it will know the context. Aha, he's at home in the room. I know what he's asking me to do, which all of these voice assistants are completely useless. when it comes to that. They're just like, set a timer or whatever.

22:16Please don't. Yeah. So where all of this is going is like, I see the home becoming part of the smartness, like TV sliding up, dashboards catching your attention because you're missing, you're late to a meeting, so your TV lights up with a red image blinking. Like CloudBot can run all of that. But until now, we didn't have the glue, like how to make that work. So what you're saying basically is this whole, smart home concept hasn't actually been that smart. It's basically just been devices connected to the internet and relying on humans to actually pull the levers to do things. What you're saying is basically we're entering an era where the true smart home will exist and the glue is going to be devices like the Pebble Ring or competitors.

23:06Yeah. And CloudBot. And products like CloudBot. There's going to be a huge split between consumer AI and tinkerers. That's why I formed the Tinkerer Club. I hope we're going to link it somewhere or something or people can find it out. Like these tinkerers, they want to glue together a Pebble watch with their self-hosted home assistant, cast it on their dashboard with their weird headphones and CLI, whatever. And there's going to be most of consumers who are just going to keep iterating and using GPT, whatever GPT is going to throw at them. Like GPT will eventually classify your email and Claude will eventually do your like whatever.

23:41They connect to Apple Health and whatever. But I think these days with Claude, what tinkerers saw this opportunity like, fuck it, I want to run my own AI. I'm going to spend 10, 20 ,000 euros at home, buy a beefy graphics cards, whatever it's needed to run local AI. I'm going to own my assistant. I'm going to own my data. And I don't want to rely on the cloud or outages or nerfing the models or whatever. So there's going to be a giant split and this will never hit the mainstream to a point where my mom is using CloudBot with her Pebble ring, you know? Totally. Let's do four more. Four more.

24:18Let's see what else we have. Yeah, YouTube doesn't make you, let you make playlists from children's songs, which is very stupid. it. So we want to have a playlist of all the songs my daughter is listening to. YouTube cannot do it. So I just told my cloud bot to install a skill for downloading YouTube videos. We sent screenshots from Spotify, from which songs we're playing to my daughter and from YouTube music. It found them on YouTube, downloaded all of them, connected to my NAS, hosted them on Plex. And now on Plex, we have a nice playlist with cleaned up names, titles, whatever, with all the songs that are needed to play to my daughter.

24:49So that one is pretty cool. here we showcase like you can connect to your NAS, you can connect to your home assistant, you can connect to anything and just interface through chat. More, piehole, like ad blocking. I was always like, I'm a tinker, but I was always too lazy to set this up. Now I just told this like, hey, I have a spare Mac Studio laying around. It's going to be plugged in all the time. How about you set up piehole and block ads on my entire network? So in a couple of iterations, we got this. And now all my devices, my wife's device, whatever, like 92 % of the ads are going to be blocked and there's going to be no ads.

25:23Which is, this is an example where someone who's like, I've been tinkering with way weirder stuff. Like I was just lazy to do certain things. You know, I want to text and create magic and that's it. Skill for making Excalidraws. Oh, are you kidding me? I need this, bro. Yeah. Excalidraw, like the format for Excalidraw is JSON. So basically you can tell it to make a JSON file, host it on your own network, expose it to the internet and open Excalibur with the JSON loaded. So it just gives you a link. If you teach it right, it just gives you a link. You click the link and you can iterate on your Excalibur from your CloudBot, which is very nice.