In short
Emmy-winning actor-writer Richard Gadd discusses Laurel and Hardy’s enduring appeal, focusing on how their physical comedy is driven by deep emotional performance and sharp writing.
Guest backgrounds
Richard Gadd is known for Netflix’s Baby Reindeer and HBO’s Half-Man (both Emmy-nominated/winning per the episode).
Key claims
Laurel and Hardy were not only “excellent clowns and writers” but “fantastic actors”; their on-screen chemistry combines harshness (“can’t stand each other but can’t live without each other”) with emotional whininess and pomposity.
Notable examples
The Music Box (piano up stairs, repeated “Heave!” mishaps), Way Out West (their famous dance routine; recommended for plotting and performance), and the “Eat the hat” exchange.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORichard Gadd on Laurel and Hardy
0:25 to 2:38
Gadd shares his memories and insights about Laurel and Hardy's films.
“I'd like to talk about Laurel and Hardy.”
Emotional Resonance of Comedy
2:38 to 3:17
Gadd discusses the emotional depth in Laurel and Hardy's performances.
“If you don't eat that hat, I'll tie you to a tree and let the buzzards get you.”
Musical Interlude: 'Blue Ridge Mountains'
3:17 to 3:40
Gadd references a nostalgic song, highlighting its significance.
“I get kind of emotional thinking about it because of how rap-topping kind of...”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Richard Gadd:Welcome to The Treat. I'm Elvis Mitchell. Writer-actor Richard Gadd has a unique ability to put larger-than-life characters under the microscope, as we've seen in his Emmy-winning Netflix series Baby Reindeer and his newest, the Emmy-nominated Half-Man, on HBO. For The Treat, Gadd looks at a comedy team whose physical comedy was underpinned by an epic emotional power. Hi, I'm Richard Gadd, and this is The Treat.
0:33I'd like to talk about Laurel and Hardy.
0:41Probably my earliest memory, I think, is watching The Music Box, which is basically the story of them trying to get a piano up the stairs, but it's absolutely magnificent in the way that it's done. The kind of escapades they get in on the way up with people passing, it keeps falling down all the way to the bottom of the stairs, it's brilliantly shot, it's brilliantly performed. Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! Heave! I think Loral and Hardy are not only just excellent clowns and writers, but they're fantastic actors. I mean, I think about when Stan would get emotional, he'd get quite whiny.
1:25It's just so well done. And the kind of pomposity of Oliver Hardy, it's just, it's magnificent performances that I think deserve all the praise and deserve the fact that they're etched in the canons of time.
1:46Get out of here! Get that piano out of that box! I remember watching Way Out West when I was younger and learning the dance that they did together in that film.
2:12I just think it's a terrifically plotted, brilliant film, and I think it is. It's probably their most famous, and I mean, Music Box Hall's the most special place in my heart because that's the one that would make me laugh the most. my mum would sit on the stairs and just listen to me hysterically laughing all the way throughout the film. But The Way Out West is always the one that I'd recommend because of its plotting and the brilliant performing and just all the stuff that goes on throughout it. It's a magnificent film. Eat the hat. I won't do it. If you don't eat that hat, I'll tie you to a tree and let the buzzards get you.
2:50Would you really do that? I certainly will. Eat it.
3:04They sort of like can't stand each other but can't live without each other and they can be really harsh to one another and physical at times but it's magnificent at the same time. I get kind of emotional thinking about it because of how rap-topping kind of... kind of beautiful nostalgia it is, you know? In the blue ridge mountains of Virginia On the trail of the lonesome pine In the pale moonshine Our hearts entwine Where she carved her name And I carved mine Or June, or June
3:46Richard Gadd:Emmy-winning actor-writer Richard Gadd on the enduring power of Laurel and Hardy. The Treat is produced by Rebecca Mooney and mixed by Katie Gilchrist. We endure here at The Treat. I'm Elvis Mitchell. The Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia On the trail of the lonesome pine In the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia On the trail of the lonesome pine In the pale moonshine, our hearts entwined Where she carved her name and I carved mine Oh, June, like the mountains I'm blue Like the pine, I am lonesome for you
4:39In the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia On the trail of the lonesome pond
From the publisher
Emmy-winning actor and writer Richard Gadd purposely puts his characters under great tension. He wrote and starred in the 2024 Netflix series 'Baby Reindeer,' which won three Emmys, and most recently created and starred in the HBO series 'Half Man.' He’s up for another Emmy in September for his performance. For his treat, Gadd celebrates an iconic duo, who also often found themselves under great tension, which led to classic comedy.
