The Treat: Wunmi Mosaku

2 Mar 2026 · 5 min · 2 chapters

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Podcast Summary: The Treatment - Wunmi Mosaku

Podcast Overview Title: The Treatment Description: The Treatment explores the catalysts of creative inspiration through conversations with influential creators across various fields, including entertainment, fashion, sports, and the arts. It features tastemakers who shape popular culture.

Episode Details Episode Title: The Treat: Wunmi Mosaku Episode Description: Actress Wunmi Mosaku discusses her Academy Award-nominated role in "Sinners" and reflects on a book titled *Briefly, Perfectly Human: Making an Authentic Life by Getting Real About the End* by Alua Arthur. She explains how the book on death has transformed her perspective on life.

Key Concepts and Discussions

Wunmi Mosaku’s Achievements

  • Awards: Recently won the BAFTA for her performance in "Sinners."
  • Nominations: Received an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actress for the same role.

Reflection on the Book

  • Book Title: *Briefly, Perfectly Human: Making an Authentic Life by Getting Real About the End* by Alua Arthur.
  • Author's Background: Alua Arthur is a death doula, guiding individuals through their end-of-life transitions.

Insights from the Book

  • Themes:
  • The inevitability of death: Emphasizes the importance of recognizing that life is not guaranteed.
  • Living fully: Encourages striving for a life without regrets, inspired by the sentiment in Bill Withers' song about wanting to feel 'used up' on one's deathbed.
  • Personal Impact: Wunmi mentions how contemplating death helps her let go of trivial grievances that often cause stress.

Personal Philosophy

  • Aspirations: Aims to live joyfully, purposefully, and without regrets, focusing on what truly matters.
  • Practical Applications:
  • Reminds herself to avoid sweating the small stuff (e.g., inconveniences like broken luggage or air conditioning issues).
  • Encourages others to adopt a similar mindset for a more fulfilling life.

Conclusion

  • Wunmi Mosaku's discussion provides a profound perspective on the interconnectedness of life and death, urging listeners to embrace each moment and prioritize what brings joy and purpose. The insights from Alua Arthur's book serve as a reminder to approach life with authenticity and gratitude, especially in the face of mortality.

Episode Production

  • Produced by: Rebecca Mooney
  • Mixed by: Katie Gilligrest
  • Host: Elvis Mitchell

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Exploration of Death and Purpose

0:39 to 2:30

Wunmi Mosaku discusses her inspiration from Alua Arthur's book about death.

“A book that really inspired me over the last year was a book called Briefly Perfectly Human.”

Reflections on Life and Regrets

2:30 to 3:39

Wunmi dives into the idea of living fully and having no regrets.

“That's something that I really find inspiring because I think modern life definitely tries to distract you from the fact that we aren't guaranteed tomorrow and we are dying.”
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Transcript

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0:00Wunmi Mosaku:KCRW sponsors include Walt Disney Animation Studios presenting Zootopia 2, winner of the BAFTA Award for Animated Film, and nominated for the Academy Award for Best Animated Film. Disney Zootopia 2 for your consideration for Best Animated Feature. Welcome to The Treat. I'm Elvis Mitchell. Wunmi Mosaku has just won the BAFTA Award for her performance in the film Sinners. And for that performance, she's also been nominated for the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress. For The Treat, she offers her feelings about a book whose subject, death, gave her a new way to look at her own life.

0:37Elvis Mitchell:I'm Wami Misaku. This is The Treat.

0:47Elvis Mitchell:A book that really inspired me over the last year was a book called Briefly Perfectly Human.

0:58Elvis Mitchell:it's an autobiography by elua arthur she's a death doula and it's about her journey into figuring out her purpose as a death doula and then the lessons she's learned from guiding people through their transition

1:25it's just something that I have always held on to since reading that book is like

1:32Elvis Mitchell:she talks about the Bill Withers song like she says I want to be used up but on my deathbed with no regrets like I want to have lived as fully and as joyfully and as purpose-driven as possible and also to meditate on death, to really remember that tomorrow is not guaranteed.

2:00Elvis Mitchell:And if we really truly think like that, then all these small, small grudges and the things that kind of give you such a headache and like play on your mind and your heart and your spirit and keep you up at night? Actually, would they if you remembered that tomorrow you may not draw breath?

2:30Elvis Mitchell:That's something that I really find inspiring because I think modern life definitely tries to distract you from the fact that we aren't guaranteed tomorrow and we are dying. We all are. And so it is inevitable. And this life is so precious. So that's something I really try to remember is that, yeah, I want to be used up and have zero regrets and let go of all the dumb stuff about dishwashers and like, I don't know, broken luggage and air conditioning. Yeah.

3:25Wunmi Mosaku:Best Supporting Actress Oscar Nominee for Sinners, Wumi Masaku on the book Briefly, Perfectly Human, Making an Authentic Life by Getting Real About the End by Alua Arthur. The treatise produced by Rebecca Mooney and mixed by Katie Gilligrest. It's The Treat. I'm Elvis Mitchell.

4:14Wunmi Mosaku:KCRW sponsors include Netflix presenting Train Dreams, nominated for four Academy Awards, including Best Picture. Featuring Academy Award nominated and Critics' Choice Award winning cinematography from Adolfo Veloso, Awards Watch hails it the most beautifully shot film of the year. I just got my new phone and the KCRW app is the best way to get the music and shows you love from KCRW. And it's been totally redone to be cleaner, faster and more reliable. And there's two new music streams, Dance24 and Vintage24, and they're only in the app. Plus, real-time now playing, so you never miss a track ID.

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From the publisher

Actress Wunmi Mosaku’s performances are often quiet and contemplative. Her role as the spiritual healer Annie in Sinners landed her a first-ever Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. For her treat, Wunmi reflects on the Alua Arthur book Briefly, Perfectly, Human: Making an Authentic Life by Getting Real About the End. She says the book about death has helped her not sweat the small stuff in life.

 

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