409: Anderson CHOOSES United? Enrique JOB Offer!

0:00Get that Amex Gold card ready. I'm too tired to cook. We feeling five guys or the Cheesecake Factory? Both. Earn up to$120 a year in statement credits of participating partners. Up to$10 each month when you pay with the Amex Gold card. Learn more at americanexpress.com slash explore-gold. Enrollment required. Terms apply. Hello everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. I don't know. You go down to London to do Borla League. Pep Guardiola quits and football is up in the air. Does this mean that Elliot Anderson is coming to Manchester United? Well, it should do. We'll talk about the latest with that as well.

0:31Also, United's dream managerial appointment, excuse me, managerial appointment this summer was Luis Enrique. We made an approach, according to Fabrizio Romano. Let's talk about that as well. He's also going off like a bottle of pop. Roy Keane saying that Man United's obsession with Bruno's assist record isn't the attitude needed to win trophies. And also the history books say that Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp is the biggest rivalry in Premier League football. Chuff monsters. Absolute chuff monsters. I'll look forward to that section. I really, really will. And also Tenali's price is less than£100 million.

1:09Apparently he's available for£80 million. So, so much to get into on the show. We're going to start off about Elliot Anderson because obviously the big news overnight is that Pep Guardiola is going to leave Manchester City. Why did he announce it last night? I think he watched Goldbridge ball. Three clean sheets in a baller league season. One is just unprecedented. And I think he thought it's time to leave the game because there are better coaches out there now. But on a serious note, look, this has massive ramifications for Manchester United. I was speaking to somebody this morning about this and I specifically asked the question, how does this impact Elliot Anderson to Manchester United?

1:47and they said, well, it's an open goal for Manchester United. Man United are going to lose this on finances, nothing else. They're going to lose it on the offer. They're going to lose it on the wages. They're not going to lose it on the project. And I think that's the best way to look at it. I think if Man United fluff this, it's on the board. It's on Sir Jim. It's on Joel Glazer. I mean, it's absolutely there on a plate. Pep Guardiola is leaving Manchester City. Maresca is going to be the new manager. there is no pull to Man City now for Elliot Anderson. There could be a relegation. There could be a points deduction on the line.

2:24We have a better stadium. We have, in the sense of atmosphere, we are in the Champions League. There is no definitive guarantee that Man City are going to be better than Man United over the next five years, apart from how they are run. And if they get any problems with the 1-1-5, then they're not going to be better than us, are they? So, look, in one way, it's a huge positive. In another, you're putting your faith in a board that is incompetent because most intelligent people this morning are saying, well, you know, and I'm not talking about United journalists or United sources. I'm talking about general football people are saying there is no reason Elliot Anderson doesn't sign for Man United.

3:06In fact, it's probably the right thing for him to do because Pep is left. Man City could be heading into all sorts of instability, whereas Man United, as things stand, you would start every week. He might not start every week at Man City. You will be in the Champions League and you will be the master of your own destiny. You'll be playing in the midfield for Man United. and if you play well there, Man United will do well. You will be in the Champions League every year. If Elliot Anderson comes to Man United and he does well, we will be in the Champions League every year because that's such an important position.

3:38So absolutely, I think this change at Manchester City benefits Man United and look, I think we have a chance or had a chance anyway. I think it's an open goal for United now and if he holds up the Man City shirt, I will be saying, well, I will be saying this. I'll be saying, how have you fucked that up? I mean, what are you doing? Where is your ambition? You talk about winning league titles. You talk about Man United being on the top of football. Look at the opportunity. We may never get a summer like this again. Pep Guardiola, who's built a dynasty at Manchester City and dominated the Premier League, is gone.

4:18This is the vulnerable time everybody's been waiting for with Man City. Pep is gone. Man City will never be as vulnerable as they are this summer and they're second. Liverpool have got slot at the moment and want to stick with him. So they're shit. Chelsea, new manager as well. So, you know, yes, we've got a new manager, but he has just got his third place and you have worked with him for five months. Yes, Carrick might fail and I don't think it's the best decision, but the board can't use the excuse of, well, it's a new manager. We didn't know how it was going to work. You've had five months with him.

4:49So we're going into a summer where there's a huge opportunity in front of us. And ultimately, yet again, as fans, we're saying if this goes badly, it's on the same people, isn't it? Because this is about writing checks. That's what this is going to be about. The whole story about Elliot Anderson to Man City is there's£100 million to Forrest and there's£250 ,000 a week to Elliot Anderson. That's the stumbling block. This is not about footballing choices. This is not about where's the best place for Elliot Anderson to go because we can offer that on a comparison to Man City. And I think we can offer a better project.

5:28You're straight into our team at Man United following in the footsteps of people like Roy Keane and Brian Robson. and you can be that person and you will play every week and you will be you know the the opportunity to be a man united great slash legend and rebuild this football club with us that is a huge pull on anybody's footballing heritage like respect to man city they have been very good but they can't offer that they can't offer man united's midfielder for the next 10 years to rebuild this football club around and be a legend you know it's not the same at man city and also you haven't got Pep.

6:05You go Man City, you haven't got Pep there anymore. Man City could be, look at United, since Sir Alex left, we've been absolutely shit. Now, most of that's down to the board being shit, but Man City cannot guarantee that they're going to go and win titles again. Man City cannot guarantee anything anymore. And that's without the 1-1-5. Is Haaland going to stick about? If Haaland goes, you've got to replace him. So I don't look at that Man City side and go, yeah, just go there for the money and get guaranteed success. I don't think that. I think Man United have a massive opportunity here. And if we blow it, and I'll use the words of that journalist yesterday, you know, we blew Bellingham in 2020.

6:42We messed up Declan Rice in 2023. Third time, we can't do this again. We have to get this deal done. And if we don't do this deal, it's going to be about money. And how do we deal with that? How do we deal with that as fans if we sit there and go, if he signs for Pep, you sort of go, we're just not good enough to get these players. But he's not signing for Pep. He's signing for an unknown manager. He's signing for Man City with an unknown manager. He's signing for money. We just have to put the offer on the table. And look, if Man City were offering£200 million and£500 grand a week, I'd say step away.

7:24But £100 million is exactly what Declan Rice cost three years ago. And£250 ,000 a week is what we play Mason Mount. So if we've got a Pratt at the top of our club saying, at the end of the day, we're not paying a quarter of a million pounds for the best midfield prospect in Europe. And we're not paying£100 million either. I don't agree. I don't agree. I think it's absolutely on a plate. And you can't tell me, and I will argue this with any United fan, you can't tell me 250 grand a week is too much for Elliot Anderson when you've got bloody Mason Mount as basically just a new kit model earning 250 grand a week.

8:08You know, Luke Shaw's on nearly 200 grand a week. Harry Maguire's still on nearly 200 grand a week. De Litt's on nearly 200 grand a week. I don't. 250 grand a week, 100 million pounds. That's what this costs. And we'll never get an opportunity like this to do it again. And if Elliot Anderson goes to Man City and ends up keeping Man City up there and we go for somebody else who's not as good, then whose fault's that? Sometimes it's not about the coach. Sometimes it's not about the results. Sometimes it's about decisions that get made off the pitch. This decision is monumental for Manchester United.

8:43This decision can be the difference between being back here in 18 months out of Europe, moaning about, you know, another new manager or in two years time, having two years of the Champions League and building something. This is our time This is so symbolic And nobody can convince me That this isn't on a plate And nobody can convince me That this isn't on the board And nobody can convince me That this isn't the right thing to do This is a symbolisation Of Man United's future More than Carrick in my opinion Michael Carrick might be here for five years He might be here for five months But this signing defines Carrick's future as well You sign Elliot Anderson You drop him into that midfield at 23 we've got him for the next seven years.

9:28If he does what he does with what we've got we will be in the Champions League for the next seven years. And that amount of money will mean that next summer you can go and get another Elliot Anderson and then another Elliot Anderson like Arsenal do. This signing takes us into the area that we need to be as a football club. This signing symbolises Man United's desire to be successful again. This signing is an opportunity in a summer transfer window where everybody is going through more change than we are, even though we're going through change. And this signing is the sort of signing United need to make.

10:06I've been talking about this for years. You don't catch people up who are far ahead of you by buying things less than what they are. You buy the things they want. What an opportunity. Man City don't have Pep anymore. Man City's future is uncertain. This is the player that we need. And we're debating or saying we won't pay over 200 grand a week and we won't pay 100 million pounds. Well, we won't be successful then. We won't win trophies then, will we? We won't be successful if we don't spend what's required on quality. I don't want us to go and give bloody Alex Scott 200 grand a week or Balaba 200 grand a week or Gio Gomez 200 grand a week.

10:48But I will give Tonali and Anderson 250 grand a week because I think they're worth it. because that's what they'll get paid at Man City and Arsenal. And anybody who says that these players aren't worth 250 grand a week, why would Arsenal give them that then? Why would Man City give them that then? Why would Real Madrid give them that? Why would Bayern Munich give them that? Somebody said Elisa is not worth 250 grand a week when Bayern Munich went and got him. Well, he bloody well is, isn't he? He bloody well is. And I think he might be on more than that anyway. You get what you pay for. Absolutely.

11:20Mareska to Man City. Here we go. I've done the video on That's Football. I think we all knew that as well. So look, I think Elliot Anderson has never been as close as it is now. It is completely in the hands of Sir Jim Radcliffe and Joel Glazer and what check they want to write. This deal can be done. It's about whether they want to write the check. That's where we are this morning. Do I feel vindicated in saying for the last week, I think we'll sign Elliot Anderson? He ain't holding up the shirt yet. But I have negative Goldbridge. I have said for weeks now, I've just got a feeling we're going to get Elliot Anderson.

11:56And I've never been more confident of that feeling. But it's all going to come down to, are they going to write that check? Are they going to write that check? Where would you put Anderson on the hotter meter, says Arcel.

12:13They've still got to write the check, mate. Seven. Seven out of ten. I just think, like, you look. If it happens, yabba-dabba-doo. If it doesn't happen, frustration, right? But look at what's happened. You couldn't have a better 48 hours. He comes to Manchester United at Old Trafford in a good game of football because both teams have no pressure. So it's an open game. Enjoyable. I'm sure the Forest players enjoyed it because it was a good open game. He comes to Old Trafford, a brilliant atmosphere. He gets two assists. He's probably man of the match. He gets treated really well. Or, you know, 24 hours later, Pep Guardiola leaves Man City.

12:56As long as somebody's in his ear saying Man United want you, we're never going to get an opportunity as good as that. It's literally still in his head what happened at Old Trafford. He's then got Pep's leaving Man City. Now is the time to act. Now is the time where you go in and go, that's the wage. We don't want anyone else. We want you holding up the new shirt. Let's go. But that's where I worry about United because if this was Arsenal or Liverpool or Man City, I think they'd have it done. I think they'd have it done in the next 24 hours. They'd swoop in on the weakness. I would say that this is a little, for Man United to sign Elliot Anderson, it's like your biggest rival getting in the ring with you and as they walk towards you, they trip over and knock themselves out on the floor.

13:42Yeah. Do you help them up or do you step back and say, ref, you better count to 10? You know, Man United have a massive opportunity, but it's now. It's now. Pep, Man City are dealing with their own thing, their eyes off the ball. We've just had him at our ground. We're in the top three. I think it's there. It's there. But it will, I admit, come down to. My fear is we don't. My fear is he holds up a Man City shirt and the brief to all the journalists, Laurie Whitwell, James Ducker, Manchester Evening News. Yeah, Man City put a silly offer in. Well, what's a silly offer? What's a silly offer? Because, you know, I've said this about, you know, if you want to pay 250 grand a week and Man City pay 50, Man City pay 270, what's 20 grand a week across a month?

14:34it's let's say 100 grand is less than that across a whole across a across a whole year 100 grand times 10 it's a million it's an extra million pounds a year to pay him 270 instead of 250 this is what people don't realize the margins of we're not going to do that we're not going to do that if you run a football club where you go we're not going to do that we have parameters we're not going to do that then we're not going to win trophies you know I saw his link to Ryerson the right back at Dortmund yesterday and someone said it to me at Borla League and I said we won't sign him because he's over 26 and they couldn't believe it and I said but that's Man United we won't do that because he's over 26 we won't sign you because your wage is over 200 grand a week and we don't want to pay any more than that anymore well we we don't want to do that we don't want to buy we don't want you because you've never played in the Premier League before These parameters will make us unsuccessful.

15:35You have to be able to do it. But I'm telling you now, Elliot Anderson has never more been possible than it is now. I think it's such a deal. We've got 10 ,000 people watching. Let me just grab some of your comments. Henry's 12th assist from 20 was from a corner, says Liam. I'm going to talk about what Roy Keane said about the assist thing in a minute because I have a different take to everybody else in this just incredible pile-on that we seem to have now. if somebody has a different opinion than somebody else. I think Pep has done it now to get in Arsenal's head, but gives us a big boost for Anderson.

16:05This is add. Pep knows the 1-1-5 chargers are coming home to roost. Well played, sir, says Irish Trucker. Only Arsenal will be a more desirable destination overall for any player wanting to make a move. Yeah, Ineos being given a golden opportunity, says Hitton. Yeah, and I just want to repeat that as well. Elliot Anderson is symbolic. If we get that deal, it shows we are serious. If he goes to Man City, it shows that we are not serious as a football club. But bigger than that, this summer is such an opportunity. And it reminds me of the last year of Mourinho. Mourinho got us to second place and was ready to go again.

16:39He was like, we finished second. I want to go first next season. The club put the handbrake on and everybody behind us bought players and we just fell behind. This has happened before at Man United. We are in a position in third place where the second place team are vulnerable and everybody else behind us are vulnerable. and if we keep the momentum and bring the players in, we can move up to second next season. I'm not saying we're going to win the league, but we can be the second best team in England in 12 months if they do it right in this summer transfer window. If they don't do it right in this summer transfer window, we could be down an eighth.

17:17I think that Man United, if you analyse it, and we're going to do an end of season show next week, if you look at Man United, it reminds me of that Mourinho season where we finished second because we could have gone to the next stage but the board didn't want to do it and we dropped and I think we're here again third place with what's going on Pep leaving Man City slots crap at Liverpool Chelsea have got a new manager we are in a position where we can really after a good summer transfer window move up a gear but if we get it wrong we'll drop and fall behind it's a monumentous summer like I say Mark should we get Conte as manager says Alex no well we're not going to do that now on we got Carrick who who who is still not official by the way Carrick is still not official you know like Fabrizio was going here we go and all this bollocks it will happen but it's not official yet this this contract they are still working on it which just goes to show when we're talking about Elliot Anderson this is the problem we've got there is a manager that is desperate to sign the contract who is still not signed the contract because United is still fucking about being idiots as they always are slow on everything.

18:26Michael Carrick, Tuesday, lunchtime, still hasn't signed that contract because we are so slow at everything. And this is a guy that's desperate to sign the contract, by the way. So if we don't get Anderson, how now the board have to go, says Stuart. Would you consider getting Morgan Gibbs-White, says Jack. I don't really want a number 10, Jack, if I'm being honest. This is the time for the board to be ambitious in the summer. Buy the best players and back Carrick. No excuses. Completely agree, Midri. Please do share the video, by the way. We've got over 10 ,000 watching this morning. Don't forget, we're live every morning at 10 o 'clock with the new show, every afternoon at 2 o 'clock.

19:01And we're normally live at 8 o 'clock, although tonight it's going to be more like quarter to seven because I am doing the Man City Bournemouth game at half seven. Worst of all, we have cash, but Glazers milked us, says...

19:16Keel. Do you trust these owners to get the right players? No. Having a laugh. But I think we know that that's what's going to happen. You know, it's always going to come down to the owners. I think Enrique got scared he had to manage Agate again. I'm going to talk about Enrique in a moment, Mohamed, because Romano's given a big update on that. On your point of player worth, Madrid are planning a£165 million bid for Elisa, but if Bayern will take it, it's something else, says one and only. And if you've got the money to go for Elisa, I'd go for Elisa. I think he's bloody brilliant. Good morning, Mark, says the nuke.

19:48And these rules are probably why Nice are bottom of the league, says Rossi. What happened with Nice? Did they stay up in the end? I think they just about did. They drew nil-nil with Mets. So, no, they're in a relegation playoff, Nice. That's not been reported much, has it? So the French League is over and Nice have finished third from bottom and therefore are in a relegation playoff. Owned by Ineos. That's not been reported much, has it? It's funny how things don't get reported like that, doesn't it? Tanale Stilla, Fernandes Hall in the summer, says Mangalorian. Lewis Hall's not leaving Newcastle.

20:33Hi Mark, as much as I hate Mr. Coxie If he pulls this signing off I promise I won't hate him for only six months Mate, I've always said This board is incompetent But when they do competent things I will applaud it Because even if they do three competent things this summer It's still outweighed by the incompetence But maybe they can catch up Absolutely Right, let me talk to you about this Because this was quite interesting this morning What are your thoughts on this? I mean, this would normally be a big story And I suppose it still is and we've still got to discuss this as well. Let me just read this.

21:09So it's a circus act, says Roy Keane, about the assist record for Bruno Fernandes. And he also said that he will not be winning trophies at United with that mindset from the players. They conceded two goals and everyone's getting giddy because he's equaled a record for assist. It's mind boggling. It's a circus act. 20 would be better if you're winning trophies. Look, we'll come back to that in a minute. But this is about Enrique. So, Fabrizio Romano, Luis Enrique was the secret dream of Manchester United. United went for Enrique around January, February to see if they could get a deal done, but it was not possible because he's going to stay at PSG.

21:54So Luis Enrique was approached as the number one target for Manchester United in January and February, but it was a knock back. What does that make you think? Because on the one hand, I'm like, well, that was the best person available. And we have obviously got people in the club that wanted him. And we've clearly, unless it's PR, approached him. And a lot of people are saying PR and bullshit. The only thing I would say is, and it came straight into my head, is that if Man United went for Luis Enrique in January and February, why do you end up with Michael Carrick in May? And I'm not digging out Michael Carrick here, but right, if you go for Luis Enrique, remember the things I wanted, I wanted an experienced manager with a defined style of football who has experience of managing domestic football and Champions League football and a proven track record.

23:00Yeah. So Luis Enrique would tick all of those boxes. And yet Michael Carrick doesn't tick any. So what I don't understand is, is that if you have a manager who hit those four criteria, why do you go for a manager that then doesn't tick any of them? Surely you go from Luis Enrique to Emery or Nagelsmann, who aren't as good, but tick some of the criteria. I think it's a little bit, the reason I think it might be PR is because it doesn't actually make sense to start off in January, February with Luis Enrique and everything that he has and end up with Michael Carrick in May because they're poles apart.

23:41It's like going out on a night out, right? And you're in a nightclub and, you know, there's a 10 out of 10 stunner staring at you, sort of giving you hope. And you go over and as you're on your way over, you see loads of other, you know, nine out of 10s and eights out of 10s and seven out of 10s. Yeah, you go over to the 10 out of 10 and they say, I would be interested, but I'm already married. And you go, OK. And then as you leave, you see all the nine, eight, sevens and sixes. but you leave, you go home and you, you know, you sit in front of, you know, you get your stamp collection out and knock one out to that.

24:18And I'm sort of like going, okay, you didn't get the 10 out of 10 stunner, but there was, there was nine out of 10s, there was eight out of 10s, and you've just gone home to go and have a good time with your stamp collection. I'm sort of, and look, I'm not saying, my point is, it's like going from a Ferrari to a push bike. It's, it doesn't make sense to me that you would go from the guy with the experience, you know, with the style of play, with the Champions League experience, and then go, oh, we didn't get him. So let's go for this. That's got none. It doesn't make sense to me to go from somebody that, because I think when you're doing a recruitment process, you have a criteria and Enrique ticks a lot of things.

25:02And then you go, oh, we didn't get him. So let's go for the person who doesn't tick anything. It just doesn't make sense. Unless it is just PR to go, well, we tried to get the best, we couldn't get him. So I'm sure you agree with that. I don't think it helps Carrick either. I don't think I'm sat there if I'm Michael Carrick going, oh, great. Here's a story saying they wanted Luis Enrique. So I don't really know. I don't know. I mean, if it wasn't Fabrizio Romano, I probably wouldn't really have brought it into a news show, but it is news. But it doesn't make a lot of sense. We are where There we are.

25:39I don't think they, my personal feeling is they didn't approach anybody, really. My personal feeling is that Jason Wilcox wanted a head coach that he can control. My personal feeling is that Sir Jim Radcliffe wanted something cheap because he didn't want to have to pay out another manager if it went wrong. And I think Michael Carrick did fantastically well with results. and I think it ticks the cheap box, an inexperienced box that Wilcox needs. I don't think we seriously went after Luis Enrique or anybody else. But look, believe what you want to. That's the point. If there's a will, there's a way, but have they got the will, says Ginger.

26:22And Marlowe says, I think we forget about Chelsea. They sell Enzo and Anderson ends up there. City is not the biggest competition for his signature now, says Marlowe. Well, I did say yesterday, I mean, I don't know whether Arsenal would want Elliot Anderson, but Elliot Anderson with Declan Rice would work. And people say they don't need him. But I look at Arsenal's midfield and, you know, they've been using Louis Skelly in there over Zubomendi. So Zubomendi's place isn't necessarily guaranteed. And you also do need a squad. you know PSG have options in their midfield beyond Vettinia and Neves and Luis they've been playing Zaire Emery in there as well so you can have four midfielders good midfielders for three positions I don't know that Arsenal are looking at Anderson but they were looking at Tenali and I think well why would they not you know so there may be other options but you've got to get yourself to the front of the queue the NUK has given 20 memberships this morning.

27:17You're a legend, sir. Hope you're doing well. Make sure you say thank you if you've got a membership. Hi, Mark. As much as I hate, I've done that one. Thank you very much. Okay. If you're just tuning in this morning, we've just been talking about the Elliot Anderson chances for Man United, which have gone through the roof with Pep Guardiola leaving Manchester City this summer. Man United have a massive opportunity to present a deal to Elliot Anderson where they're basically saying, look, there's the wage, there's the project. Why would you pick Man City? Why would you pick Man City? Pep's not going to be there.

27:541-1-5 on the horizon. It could all fall apart anyway with Maresca. Haaland's probably going to leave in a year. Man City's project, how is it any better than Man United? You've been here on Sunday. You've seen what it's like. It's exciting. Come and wear the red shirt in the midfield next season and build something with us. but I don't think selling the project's going to be the problem. I think writing the check's going to be the problem. I think we are still run by people that go, we don't want to buy people over 26. We don't want to pay over 200 grand a week in wages anymore. Well, you know what?

28:28You have to do that. We need to swoop. As Andre says, you have to. Talk about the Bruno stuff. Right. I will talk about this very, very quickly because I think we do live in a world where there is so many people and I can predict this because I see the clips all day there'll be some you know overreacting united content creators today going in on Roy Keane for this and and look each their own but I think if you're gonna do content you should do research and you should you know you shouldn't just spread bullshit without research So Roy Keane has basically said that the way United reacted to Bruno's 20 assists on Sunday was embarrassing because it's all about Bruno.

29:16It's, you know, it's all about Bruno's assist record. The players are jumping around him like he's the king and, you know, he gets 20 assists and it's all about the assists and it's embarrassing. It's a circus act and they're not going to win trophies like that. And there'll be a pile on of Roy Keane for that. absolutely there will be because people will be like oh stop being so bitter this that and the other i actually think people need to understand roy keen um because i am not surprised by what he said at all this is not hate this is about inspiring and demanding more he is basically saying to those players running around celebrating an assist record for an individual player is not going to win your trophies.

29:57You need to be better than that. It's a demand of success. It's not hate. And for anybody who thinks it's hate, maybe you're up your mum's chuff. I don't know. Or maybe you've forgotten. But United content creators and journalists should know this. Instead of being sensationalists for clicks, you should know this. That is not surprising from Roy Keane. We used to get knocked out of Europe when he was in his mid-twenties and he'd go on TV and slag off the board and slag off his teammates and say, we've been complacent. We're not going to win trophies if we're dancing around winning trophies last year.

30:31You've got to work hard. This is a guy who in his early 30s got kicked out of the club for doing an interview on MUTV saying these youth players are shit and that's why we're not good enough. This is not unusual from Roy Keane to have a take that is about Man United being better. So before you start having a pop at Roy Keane and saying, oh, he's a bitter old player and this needs to stop. Well, you didn't want it to stop when he was doing it in a Man United shirt. You didn't want it to stop when he was in a Man United shirt demanding better. And that's all he's doing. So whether I agree with what he says about Bruno Fernandes or not, at least I do my bloody research.

31:08This is nothing unique to Roy Keane, but you will get people who make out their lifelong United fans or make out they know things about Man United. we are living in a world where Mang United haven't been near a league title for 13 years we are living in a world where we have finished third in the league but we are miles off the title if you think that where we are at the moment is something to celebrate then get on Roy Keane's back but if you think we're miles away from where we need to be and players need to lock in a little bit better then maybe he's talking sense because I specifically remember I think it was 2001 we got knocked out of the Champions League we'd won the treble two years before and we were getting further and further away from winning the Champions League despite thinking we were going to dominate it and Roy Keane did an interview after we'd been knocked out and basically called out the manager the board and his own team by saying we've got complacent we think we're better than we are you know maybe we haven't added the quality we need to this team but we are not good enough and it's not acceptable he was doing that in his 20s as captain so if you're gonna say he's a hater maybe do some research because he's always been like this and if you did if you liked it as if you liked it when he was a player why don't you like it now if you've never liked Roy Keane absolutely fine but like I have to say having watched United for most of my life there is nothing that Roy Keane has said there that is any different to what he used to say in a Man United shirt I mean he walked out of Ireland in the 2002 World Cup.

32:42He just has a very, very high standard of what he wants. And he doesn't suffer assist records or, you know, dancing in the dressing room or, you know, he didn't like the Michael Jackson celebration from the Newcastle player the other day. He just wants to win and he knows what it takes to win. And his standards might be different to yours. So by all means, if you don't like what he said about Bruno, absolutely go for it. But it's not about bitterness and hate Because he was doing it in a United shirt And ultimately Look, I think what Bruno's done is great I think what Bruno's done is a massive achievement And, you know, I think he'll break the record on Sunday But are we anywhere near winning Premier League titles?

33:26No Are we anywhere near winning Champions Leagues? No Would I want Roy Keane in that dressing room right now Trying to help us do that? Yes I don't think the old putting your arm around everybody and going we're great because Bruno's got 20 assists I don't think that's going to help us win league titles so I think there's an element of truth to it but what I would say is he's always been like that and you can hate the pundits but everybody loved the player and he used to do the same thing as a player he'd come out and go I mean he's always been like that always been like that so look I personally think what Bruno's done is incredible this season and he deserves player of the year and the meltdown it causes people like Piers Morgan that Declan Rice isn't going to get it is hilarious of course Bruno Fernandes deserves to win player of the year we wouldn't be in the top three if it wasn't for Bruno Fernandes but as Ricky would probably say can you win a league title with Bruno Fernandes?

34:29I think you can if you give him the right players which is why we need the Elliot Andersons. Some people think Bruno-centric teams will never win the league because it is all about Bruno. I mean, that's a debate in itself, but probably not one for now. When Bruno plays, is it all about Bruno? Would we be better off without Bruno? I don't think that's a conversation for now. I personally think Bruno Fernandes is a number 10 is why we're in the top three, and without him, we wouldn't have it, and we needed that Champions League football. And if we're going to run the experiment of can we win a title with Bruno, we better buy some fucking players that can play around Bruno because we have never done that.

35:10Just adding to my earlier super chat, these golden opportunities don't come around very often for great players. So we must take advantage, do everything to get them or we will fall further back and lose out, says Daniel. I also think Elliot Anderson would compliment Bruno Fernandes very, very well. I was thinking about this last night driving back from London. You know, Bruno Fernandes is a very, you know, we're a team that is winning games with less than 50 % possession because we're counterattacking. I don't think that's going to change next season with Carrick and Steve Holland and his coaches.

35:42I don't think they're about to reinvent the wheel. I think we're absolutely going to play the same way next season. So you've got to buy players in that are going to work with Bruno. And I think Elliot Anderson would work well with Bruno. I think Tonali would work well with Bruno. I don't know that projects are going to work well because Bruno will get frustrated. I think Bruno needs people who are ready to go because he's already captain and he's already having to help Sesco and Dorgoo and everybody else. I think Bruno needs support with experience. I think Casemiro and Maguire have been so good for Bruno this year because they're experienced.

36:21I think he needs players that can come into the team. This was supposed to be the summer of midfield rebuild I don't get the three levels of midfielders Demand nothing less than Anderson, Tiamini and Tonali It says reality speaks different I mean, I think we'd all love those three But I don't think we will do it Bruno is better than Keane Yeah, get back up your mum's chuff, mate The problem is, if in a year the Pep replacement has not worked out City would think nothing of buying out the contract of any manager they want Says Glen C Sorry, what? The problem is, if in a year the Pep replacement has not worked out, City would think nothing of buying out the contract of any manager they want.

36:57Yeah, I mean, look, if Manchester City, the future of Manchester City is not for us to discuss on the United stand, but there is a vulnerability to City now that there might not be in 12 months. I agree. If they dodge the charges, then they're a very rich club forever. and they can just go and spend their money legitimately but right here right now those charges still large loom large and Pep Guardiola is leaving that is leverage if I'm Jason Wilcox I'm talking to Elliot Anderson now and I'm saying you don't know where Man City are going to be in six months you don't know which way that court case is going to go if that goes against them you could be playing in the championship also Pep Guardiola is not going to be there you don't know that this isn't going to go the way it did after Sir Alex with us where the club just disappears for a few years whereas we're on their eyes those that's leverage we don't I mean it's bullshit you know Maresca might do better than Pep and Man City might dodge the charges but you play on the leverage you go mate look you're straight into our midfield in the Champions league and we're going places you go man city you might have to fight for your place in a team that gets hit with some points deductions and with a manager that might not work out there's jeopardy there at united so that that's what we've got to be selling um sunrise says gary keen and skulls uh love this players now are just senile and old trying to sell a podcast keen if you had that mentality you would never get relegated yeah you didn't listen to anything i said did you mate and And I think calling people senile is very, very, very offensive.

38:39But look, if you're not old enough or intelligent enough to remember Roy Keane saying a lot worse in interviews when he was in a Man United shirt, I wouldn't be shocked by what he's just said in a podcast. Do you think Bruno will break the record? Hesitating to write the check for Anderson but didn't want Sanchez or Pogba and 250k is more than fair, says Seth. Bruno will break the record on Sunday, yes. It's written in the stars. yeah and the way that Brighton play he will get he will get chances as well I mean he should have broke it he should have broke it at the weekend and if he doesn't break it I look at all the chances that people have missed as well he should have broke it already and he will break it on Sunday if there's a will there's a way thank you very much to Ginger Red just very quickly on Pep Guardiola I do have to say this and I know we're going to be very very biased here but I quote tweeted at a Liverpool account this morning who said that Pep and Klopp is the greatest managerial rivalry in Premier League history.

39:37The Premier League started in the early 90s, right? The benefit of being in my mid-40s is that I've seen everything in the Premier League. So I know that Dennis Irwin is the best fullback in Premier League history. He just doesn't get appreciated because he played in the 90s. I also know that the 1994 double-winning Man United side is one of the best Premier League sides that never gets mentioned because people forget that the Premier League existed in the 90s. Pep and Klopp as a rivalry doesn't jump out to me actually as much as Mourinho and Sir Alex, if I'm being completely honest. But the definitive Premier League rivalry is Wenger and Sir Alex.

40:17And most of you won't have lived it, but it was on a different level to anything I've ever seen. And you get people saying, yeah, but Pep and Klopp raised the quality of football in the Premier League. What was Wenger and Sir Alex doing then playing fucking golf? Arsene Wenger came into the Premier League from Japan and revolutionised nutrition and fitness. And they played really good football. And I tell you what, Man United under Sir Alex Ferguson, he wasn't the Scottish Tony Pulis. We used to play wing football, attacking from the start, getting people in the box. the football was bloody brilliant back in the late 90s also the two teams hated each other so it was none of this shaking hands bollocks before it people used to go out there and actually tackle each other and go for each other and grab hold of each other and the managers didn't like each other either the premier league rivalry that tops any is arsenal man united and it was a long time ago and i don't even see arsenal as a rival anymore but that was incredible it was definitive You've got the tunnel with Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira.

41:20Some of the games at Highbury, them coming to us and beating us to win that Premier League. I think it was, was it 2001? No, it wouldn't be 2001. I think it was 2003 or two. The treble in 99, their double in 98. The Ryan Giggs with his top off. Look, nothing against Klopp. I think what he did at Liverpool was incredible. And what Pep's done at Man City is, you know, very, very good. but Pep, you know, if you didn't live it, don't critique it. It's like people in their 20s saying that Rodri's better than Roy Keane when they were factually up their mum's chuff when Roy Keane was in his prime. I'm telling you now, Sir Alex and Wenger is the best Premier League rivalry.

42:01Had everything. You wouldn't be able to have that rivalry now. It was proper vicious at times and it was good football. Pep Guardiola's legacy in the Premier League, look, it's a debate. Is he the second best manager in Premier League history? That's a fair debate. Is Pep Guardiola the second best manager in Premier League history? And that debate is one that will run and run and run. You know, he's won a lot of things with a checkbook, but he had started to rebuild a team, which Sir Alex Ferguson did five times. But look, I actually think Man City have played well this season. I think they played the best football and I think he has rebuilt the team.

42:43but obviously he's not going to walk out the front door with the guard of honor and a premier league trophy is he's going to walk out you know with an fa cup and a carabao cup so you know it's an opportunity for manchester united um i'll tell you what sir alice ferguson will walk out second there's no way he'd walk out second um but sir alice ferguson's the greatest manager the Premier League's ever had and that's not up for debate it's just modernistic bullshit um to try and pretend that he isn't um he rebuilt a football club from the bottom having you know come down from Aberdeen who are the last team to win the Scottish Premiership outside of Celtic and Rangers since 1984.

43:36Our biggest problem is trying to get back to anything like that. And I heard somebody saying today that, you know, Man United's aim is still to win the Premier League in 2028. Now, a lot of you will laugh at that, but if our aim is to win the title in 28, I'm not even going to ridicule it. I'm going to sit here and say what I said in the first five minutes. The opportunity is now Pep Guardiola is one of the greatest managers the Premier League has ever seen. And he's the greatest manager in the Premier League at the moment. He's leaving Man City. We know as a football club what happens when somebody who is your football club leaves.

44:17Pep is Man City. Not many managers do that. Jurgen Klopp did it at Liverpool. Sir Alex did it at Man United. Mourinho did it at Chelsea. Wenger did it at Arsenal. And Pep's done it at Man City. you are bigger than, you're not bigger than the club, but you are the club. That leaves a void. Next season, when then Man City players go in and they get bad results, they'll look to the press conference and they won't see Pep Guardiola, they'll see Enzo Maresco. That weakens you. There's nothing Maresco can do about it. So Man City are vulnerable. Arsenal, second season, it's going to be very difficult for them because the football they play, it's very mentally taxing and you don't get no breaks in football.

44:58Liverpool, they want to keep slot. Chelsea got Jabby Alonso. He's got loads of problems. There is a massive opportunity for Manchester United. And if they want to win the league in 2028, I think it's highly unlikely. But we'll look at this summer and go, that was the opportunity. If you get this summer wrong, you won't get it done. So look. And you know what? I think sometimes you walk into a summer transfer window and it's difficult. And we demand, we demand. We want three midfielders. We want a backup strike. We want a winger. but there's not really a market. The market's there. Like, the market's there.

45:32I mean, it's not even that difficult. I mean, Wilcox and Barada will get a lot of credit if we have a really good summer, and I'll give them credit. But come on, Elliot Anderson, is it really that difficult? Give Forrest 100 million, give him 250 grand a week, he's available. Tonali, is it really that difficult? Newcastle wants to sell, he wants to go. Belaber, is it really that difficult? Scott, is it really that difficult? Chiamini, is it really that difficult? All these players are there. yes, it's going to cost you a bit of money and you're going to have to negotiate a little bit, but it's not like the, you know, sometimes you walk into a transfer market and you need a top-class striker and there are no strikers available.

46:07You can't move for midfielders. There is such an opportunity for this football club in relation to how it's all happening in the rest of the Premier League and what we need and it's there. If we don't grab those opportunities, we've only got ourselves to blame and it'll be the same people to blame because it won't be Michael Carrick and it won't be you and it won't be the players. This is on the board now. You know, this is on the board. There is a great opportunity. Are you competent enough to grab it? Because I don't want to be here in five, 10 years time looking back at this summer and saying that was the summer where they fucked it.

46:41Because it feels like it's that momentous this summer. It feels like this is the opportunity. The summer where Pep left. The summer where Liverpool kept slot. The summer where Chelsea had a new manager. The summer where we were in the Champions League. the summer where there was loads of players available. It's such an opportunity. It's exciting. It's exciting. And I am excited. But the big but is we know who runs the club. And that's the biggest thing. Elliot Anderson is not about whether he chooses Man United. It's about whether we're willing to pay what it takes. And that's the line. Are Man United willing to pay what it takes?

47:19Because a football club is about football. For too long, Man United's been about business and business and football doesn't go together unless you're a good football team. You'll make the money off a good football team. After 99, we were making fucking loads of money. Vodafone, the lot, the promised land, because we were successful. You don't make money without being successful on the pitch and you're not successful on the pitch without spending money. I feel like, you know, how is nobody saying this in the boardroom at Bang United? Creating a winner on a plate was what an assist was, says Robert McCormack.

48:00Well, I heard Jamie Carragher talking about since when were assists so important. I've got to be honest, 20 years ago, no one used to talk about assists. When I used to be playing football, you know, 30 years ago, if you put the cross in and the striker scored you didn't really get any credit at all um i'm i actually like because of the way i consume football i can see a pass from a center back that gets it in for the right back to cross it to the striker and i'll go what a pass by the center back so i think the evolution of the assist being appreciated is actually a good thing i don't think it's data adine yeah i think it's great um but there was a time where getting assist wasn't even you know wasn't even valued um but look the fact that we're all um focused on bruno fernandez getting an assist record tells you that we're not winning trophies i'd like bruno to be getting the assist record whilst winning the premier league and i think that's what we need to aspire to and i think that's what bruno wants to aspire to so let's see if we can provide that platform this summer but there's nothing wrong with demanding better morning mark nice got relegated in eos out i don't think they have been relegated they're third from bottom and they get to play a playoff um um there's i mean look it's not really being reported in the uk but um nice ultras stormed the pitch in ugly scenes after inios own side are condemned to league one relegation playoff um nice fans direct fury at owners as club fall into league one relegation playoff so they finished third from bottom and they now have to play a playoff uh with the third place team in league uh one but we're getting no reports of this this you know this is not even hitting the uk that inios owned nice nice who shouldn't be anywhere near relegation are in a relegation playoff.

50:01It's, you know, this is what I was talking about this summer. They are ridiculously incompetent, INEOS, at running football clubs. Which way is it going to go with United? We need Michael Carrick as our manager. Otherwise, all this that we've seen under Michael Carrick, we'll just go back to what we saw before Michael Carrick says Tom. Two midfielders, if it's Anderson and Tonali, says Old Trafford. I still think we need three. Robert McCormack says Roy Keane Wright was winding me up, putting himself before the team and an assist has different meaning now and no one cared back then says robert mccormack um yeah look my only defense of keen is that he used to do this at 25 with the captain's armband like and and it annoys me that people say oh he's just a bitter ex-pro because that just shows that you don't know your history at man united like he used to come out and do interviews at 25 slagging off his own team and his own board for not having the standards he felt was needed because we were not getting knocked out the Champions League again.

51:00He's always had that. You don't have to like what he says, but you can't say, oh, it's just a bitter ex-player because he always used to do it. Know your history. I think let's judge what happens next season because are we a team of individuals, light switch players, or are we actually a team? That's the challenge. And criticism is never a bad thing when you're not achieving what you need to achieve. I mean, are we all meant to just celebrate third place and an assist record. I mean, you know, we know what these players are like. They're on Instagram straight away. If they see everybody going, oh yeah, just yeah, yeah.

51:37We need to keep them on their toes. I do agree with that. They need a rocket up the arse. Third place and assist record isn't success. We need to win Premier League titles. We need to win Champions Leagues. But let's see what the summer is. Let's see what happens next season. Siva, thanks for being a member for 60 months. This Sir Alex Ferguson is the GOAT. And Slazy says Carrick's not going to bench Maynou, so the new midfielder needs to work with him too, not just Bruno. Says Slazy. Yeah, but I think Tonali would work well with Maynou, and I actually think Elliot Anderson would. I wasn't sure, but I think after the weekend, the way he drops in between the defenders, I think it could work.

52:16Mouyad says Project 28 is now two years away. If Ineos wants to maintain any credibility, they've got to pony up for elite players now. um dial says bruno play in none of the last 10 winning of the champion of c1 this is dial morning mark and united stand chats as christian i think our owners wait for the new financial year to sing and announce the new manager in signings bad as always and daniel thompson says just adding to my earlier super chat these golden opportunities don't come around very often for great players so we must take advantage thank you very much and uh give me skulls with no assists any day says Robert McCormack Ranić or Roy Keane these are the two sorry Duke Studio says Ranić or Roy Keane these are the two me and my brother always debate should be manager what our conclusion is the board would never like them oh 100 % yeah you know we're never going to get anybody with who's vocal about standards at Man United again absolutely not they need somebody to protect the board not out the board we need Michael I've done that one thank you very much Hi Mark, conspiracy question here Do you think with Pep leaving he knows about the Chargers And getting out while he can I don't think he knows about the Chargers Slow Sports News And I've said this multiple times on That's Football I don't think anybody knows the outcome of that Because if they did It would be out I don't think you can In 2026 I don't think you can keep anything quiet I really don't Which is why I don't think Man United spoke to any other managers And And it's why I don't think Elliot Anderson's definitely going to Man City, because I think we would know.

53:54Yeah.

53:59Just on Robert McCormack, by the way, you know, Declan Rice can't get assists. So should Declan Rice win player of the year over Bruno Fernandes? Because Declan Rice will never score as many goals and get as many assists as Bruno. Bruno's not winning player of the year for the assists. the person who wins player of the year should be the individual player who has the biggest impact on their team across a season so declan rice winning the premier league is a big achievement but bruno fernandez has taken a team that i think would be eighth to third on his individual performances so it's not he's not you know declan rice can't get assists so bruno's not getting the the player of the year because of the assists.

54:44I think some Arsenal fans are misinterpreting this. The player of the year should be the player that has the biggest individual impact on their team. While Arsenal have got people like Gabriel, Saliba, Rhea, you know, there's a lot of contributors to Arsenal's title. At Man United, I'd say 70, 75 % of our season is based around Bruno. I don't think 75 % of Arsenal's season is based around Declan Rice. So if you had a player that played for Leeds that scored 30 Premier League goals and they stayed up because of those goals, I'd say they're Player of the Year. That's my interpretation of Player of the Year.

55:21It's the player who has the biggest individual impact on a team. That's why David De Gea used to win Player of the Year a lot at Man United. You know, we'd probably finish like seventh or eighth and De Gea would get Player of the Year because across the season he bloody sabres so many times. That's why Bruno's winning Player of the Year. It's not just because of assists. Stuart says that's absolute bollocks, Mark. Yeah, it would be useful, Stuart, if you actually gave an alternative, because when people say that's absolute bollocks, Mark, I think, yes, I've won, because you can't give a response.

55:50So I'll take that as a win. Thank you, everybody, for watching. Brilliant show this morning. Really enjoyed it. Let's see. I think that Elliot Anderson deal is an open goal, but the board might close the door on it. Let's see. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. I will speak to you. We're back at two. Remember, the evening show is slightly early tonight, quarter to seven. Stay safe. Take care. I'll speak to you on in a bit.