Carrick Has to Go TONIGHT! Man United Aston Villa 4-4 Review

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1:42Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stand. Manchester United 4, Aston Villa 4. Tell you what, I'm just watching the Dorgu goal. Lamens with the most blatant foul you will ever see. How that goal's been given, I don't know. And I mean, look, we are so, so lucky that we're sat here with a point tonight. I think it's a bad point. But how VAR has not looked at Lemens barging into the goalkeeper with his back, not even looking at the ball, it is absolutely abysmal. He goes straight for the goalkeeper. He's looking at the goalkeeper. He turns his back. He shoulder barges him. It's, mate, just go and watch it.

2:20I hadn't seen it in real time. That is an absolute travesty. That is an absolute travesty that that goal has been given. Sorry, Villa. We've robbed you there at the end. That is shocking from VAR. But let's talk about Man United. You've got Rio Ferdinand out there celebrating his birthday. United, United. You've got people clapping it off the pitch. I tell you what, I don't get it. I don't understand it. Carrick needs to go tonight. I just want to remind people, before you get lost in a four-all draw with Aston Villa, we have got eight points from 30. Eight points from 30. We're in the bottom three.

2:59We're shit. And it is because of the manager. And it is because of the board. And it is because of the owners. And how anybody can be sat happy tonight, I don't know. When that Dogu goal went in, I was like, I actually think this is going to be bad for us. I actually think this is going to be bad for us because they will now keep him. And all that's going to happen is, for the next two weeks, they'll do nothing. And then we'll go to Liverpool and get battered. And people will be saying, sack him, sack him. Gotta go. You've got to go tonight. Like, it's not even emotional. The only people managing that team is the crowd.

3:34My man of the match was the crowd, like it was against Roma. That, did you see Omar Barada when we scored? He's not a Man United fan. 10 years ago, he was taking the piss out of us on Twitter for Man City. He's not a Man United fan. The equaliser goes in. and he's up like this, get in, get in, because he's saving his job. What CEO is celebrating a last-minute equaliser against Aston Villa when we're in the relegation zone, like we've won the fucking World Cup? He's celebrating like that because he's just saved his job. This club is on its arse. Rio Ferdinand's posting pictures like this, perfect, perfect, perfect birthday.

4:16We're in the bottom three. You know what? I genuinely do not know what's going on with this fan base. A year ago, it was embarrassing to be sixth with Amrim. He's the worst thing that's ever happened to this football club with his back three. It's embarrassing that we're in sixth place, four points off the Champions League spots. He's got to go. Amrim's an absolute disgrace with his back three and sixth place. He needs to go. He's not a Man United manager. A year later, we're getting lucky at late equalisers where we've found their goalkeeper. Carrick stood there with the crowd behind him like this.

4:49We're in the bottom three. He's got the United DNA. He's the man. What's happened? What has happened to this fan base? What's happened to this football club? It's crazy. People need a dose of reality. They need a dose of reality. I can't believe this is being celebrated. I can't believe people are saying, oh, that goal has probably just kept him in a job. and it should never have been a bloody goal. It was a foul. We've scammed another point. And I said it at the start of the game. The worst result today was a draw because it doesn't do anything. We need wins. If Carrick's going to stay, we need wins.

5:31We don't need draws. We've won one game in 10 and we've had the easiest start out of the top six. I've got one win in 10. We've not won a game since August. We've played five home games at Old Trafford and we've won one out of 10 games. The football is shit. The only people managing this team is the fans. And people are... It's like being in an alternative universe where there's stupid people and clever people. And you're looking at it and you're going, look, I get the drama. I understand the drama. Two late goals to get a point against Villa. Woo-hoo. But I also look at the league table and go, we are in the bottom three and we're playing terrible.

6:16And the scariest thing for me is, is that this coach and his coaching staff have been caught out in 4K today. They coached them all week. Oh, they've had a really good week. They're hungry. They've trained really well. They coached them all week. Within five minutes, we're 2-0 down. The fans go mad. The players respond, we're 2-2 at half time. Carrick and the coaches get in for 15 minutes. They come back out. They're 2-0 down again. The fans react and it's 4-0. So when Carrick and the coaches get time with them, we instantly go 2-0 down. When the players get on their back, they get back in the game.

6:54The fans are coaching the players, not the coach. Whenever Carrick and his coaches get time with them, we fucking concede. when the fans get angry with them, they start playing. This is the most obvious thing in the world. Those players can be decent. They need coaching. All they're getting at the moment is the wrath of the fans and when they react to it, the fans react to them.

7:22It's the same thing happened against Roma. We're 2-0 down at half-time. We're absolutely shit. Cunha scores the penalty. He gets the crowd up. The crowd reacts. the players react to win the game 3-2. How long are we going to get away with? We're not even playing at Old Trafford next game. We can't. When we go 2-0 down to Liverpool at Anfield, we can't get a lucky penalty. And the Liverpool crowd aren't going to start going, come on, United. They're going to go, fuck you. And we're going to fall apart. It's got to end. He's not going to be sacked now because Omar Barada cannot celebrate an equaliser like that and then sack him.

7:59He can't. So I'll tell you now, go and have a nice international break. Go and have a holiday. Don't be waiting tomorrow for him to be sacked. It won't happen. The CEO of the football club is celebrating an equaliser against Aston Villa that keeps us in the bottom three like we've won the Champions League. I don't need to hear from Romano. I don't need to hear from Carrick. I don't need to hear from David Ornstein. He is staying because the CEO and the director of football think that that's good. They think that's good. How can you watch that game of football and go, I can see something here. I can see we're building something here.

8:34Look at the team at the end. Xerxes up front, Mount's in the team, Dorgou's at left back. It's just chaos. There's no tactics. It's just chaos vibe balls. And Lemens goes and fouls the goalkeeper. It's crazy. And there's a lot more to get into. We'll do the player ratings. But look, I think for me, analysing the game, trying to analyse the game, yet again I think that we've seen there's so many things to break down here the fitness is ridiculous we go 2-0 down because we're lazy and we're unorganised and we're not coached properly the crowd get on their back they respond they could we could have been winning at half time we come out in the second half and for most of the second half we're dead on our feet Villa are the better team and then loads of subs happen Villa and us and to be fair the subs are a little bit fitter because they've not played and the game changes a little bit and we score two goals second half the team in the first half in the second half was dead on their feet the same at Chelsea first half good second half crap same against Roma first half crap second half good this team is just not fit enough to play in the Premier League we've also conceded the third most goals in the Premier League um only Crystal Palace and Hull or no Ipswich have conceded more than us.

9:56Defensively, we're a mess. The reason for that is his obsession with Deleu. And, you know, Deleu doesn't pick himself. He's not the assistant coach. Deleu is picked by Michael Carrick. Deleu's responsible for two goals today. I think two, definitely two. He's cost us loads of goals in recent weeks. That's on Michael Carrick. He picks him every week. the midfield never had enough legs in it Tillemans and Manu just don't have the legs and we did struggle because of that and the decision to start Ahmad over Lacey is just wild and I'll say what I said before the game if Ruben Amorim had dropped Lacey or left Lacey out for Ahmad after Wednesday night the British press would have gone mad he needs sacking he doesn't understand the legacy of Manchester United the class of 92, the Busby Babes.

10:49Man United is all about the youth. When a young player comes on in a European night and does well and helps the team win the game, he must start the next game. That's what Man United is all about. Reuben Amram needs to go. But oh no, it's not Reuben Amram in charge. It's Michael Carrick. He used to play for the club, who apparently knows the DNA. Not picking Lacey at the start of this game today was disgusting because Amad just did what Amad does. Miss, misplace a pass, keep the ball too long and deliver nothing. Lacey should have started the game. That's the story. Why did Lacey not start the game?

11:17Because he's a kid and it's easy to leave a kid out. But if you leave Amman out, maybe he's popular in the dressing room. It's weak management. And that's what we see. And all we see at the moment is a team that's being coached by the fans. Those two, well, we didn't win. That draw and the win against Roma are narrow. 4-4, 3-2. These are narrow results. And we're only getting them because the fans are coaching the players. They're driving the players forward. This is not sustainable. We're in the bottom three. I think it's embarrassing. I think Omar Barad doing that is embarrassing. I think Rio Ferdinand with his post is embarrassing.

11:55We're in the bottom three. We're in the relegation zone after 10 games. Who are we if we're a football club that celebrates that? I'm not celebrating a four-all draw with Aston Villa at home when we needed to win. I don't think the players are celebrating it. I'm looking at Kunja and Dorgue. They're not happy. They look fed up. We're in the bottom three. This is not celebration. It's fucking embarrassing. How are we celebrating and happy about being in the bottom three? A point does fucking nothing. Absolutely nothing. I thought that eight points from 30.

12:43Yeah, I don't even know what to say around that. Fans were singing for Carrick again. I mean, look, I think the fans were man of the match. I know there was a lot of talk before the game about people walking out. It was never going to happen. It didn't happen. There was a lot of talk about green and gold. There was some, but not a lot. The Glazers and Ineos will look at this situation from a business point of view and go, it's funny. How bad could we make things at this club and still turn a profit? We're in the relegation zone. There's 75 ,000 fans there. They're applauding Carrick off the pitch.

13:29I just don't know what more they can do to the football club and not make a profit. And look, at 4-2, going into stoppage time, I was like, we're definitely going to lose this game. And tomorrow he gets sacked. And then the real work starts. The reason Barada and Wilcox acted like that was relief. It's got nothing to do with Man United. You don't celebrate being in the relegation zone. That was self-preservation. That was relief that they are safe. The naivety of people who are at the biggest football club in England to be celebrating like that for their own personal gain was disgusting. But that was relief because if Carrick had lost, you'd got to sack him tomorrow.

14:13And if you sack him tomorrow, all eyes are on you. Whilst Carrick is here, Wilcox is here. Whilst Carrick is here, Barada is here. He protects them. Once he's removed, it's open season on them. And that's where we should be in this international break. Instead, we're sat in the bottom three going, what's happening to this football club? And it's going to be a very depressing couple of weeks because we come back from the international break. Liverpool away. Sporting away. Brentford at home. Newcastle away. Three of our next four games are away from home. We won't have a crowd to get behind us if we go 2-0 down.

14:56It's depressing. And that Dorgue goal has changed. We'll never know. We will never know. But I do not think you could have kept Carrick if Dorgue doesn't score that goal. I don't think we can keep him anyway. I don't think a draw is not a win. Since the last international break when he was under pressure, We've drawn with Spurs. We've lost to Bournemouth, lost to Chelsea. No, drawn with Spurs, drawn with Leeds. We've taken three from 15 since the last international break. These things need to be read out because there seems to be this myth that we're doing well. Three points from 15 since the last international break.

15:44and five points from 15 on the last, going up to last three points from 15. We've done worse in the last five games than we did in the first five games. That's what I'm trying to say. But we're trying to spin this into a positive of everything's okay. Three points from 15. A draw is not a win. A draw is not a win.

16:09And look, I've seen it about 10 times. I don't know what VAR is doing. Maybe they want to keep Carrick in a job because that is the most blatant foul. If Emery doesn't come out and lose his shit, I don't know what's going on. I didn't see it at the time. I thought it was a genuine goal by Dorgu. Watch what Lemans does. I cannot believe VAR has looked at that and said, that's not a foul. You need to go and see it. You need to go and see. Honestly, at the time, I didn't think it was a foul. I didn't see it. But when you watch it back, oh my God. Lemense is five yards away as the ball comes in. He's looking at Suzuki.

16:49He runs towards Suzuki. He's never looking at the ball and he spins his back and he shoulder barges him. It's a foul. If that happened to us, we'd be losing our shit. So So a foul, somebody in the chat just said, just be happy for the win. This is what I mean. This is the deluded nature of our fan base. We haven't won. We've drawn a game with a foul. Should have lost that game. Eight points from 30. Absolute shambles. Absolute shambles. Disgusting. But you know what's going to happen? I'll do a little bit of a prediction for you. You know what's going to happen in the next 24 hours? Fan division.

17:27Fan division. The bots are coming out. It's going to be, we need to turn the fan base on each other to survive this because we're in the bottom three. We've played 10 games. We're absolutely dreadful. We need every little bit of help we can get. Every little bit of help we can get. We need to turn the fans on each other and that's what's going to happen. Some people are saying it wasn't a foul. I mean, we've probably got a lot of people here that wants Carrick to say, was it a foul on Suzuki? Look, you can make your own minds up. I think it was the most blatant foul I've ever seen, and Lemans didn't even try and hide it.

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19:54Let me get into... Let's do player ratings. Let's do player ratings. We've got a fan forum. Ricky's on it. I don't know whether Ricky's Carrick in or Carrick out. I think, does he like Deleu? We'll find out. LeMens today, look. I mean, look, he's conceded four goals. I like LeMens, but it's probably a three, isn't it? I mean, you probably could give him Man of the Match for the assist, actually. I mean, if it wasn't... Actually, I'm going to mark him. He can have a one. It's your fault we fucking won. If we'd lost, we'd have a changing manager. You fouling cheat. No, I'm joking. I think it was...

20:30I like Lemenz. I think he gets a lot of stick, but I genuinely think he's a good goalkeeper. But he had a very bad day today. He had a very bad day today. I give him a three. Masraoui I thought was okay. I'm sort of confused. And actually, player ratings is going to really help here. I'm really confused how Yoro's been playing at right back and Maguire and Martinez have been playing together. And I mentioned this in the watch along, right? Why have we conceded so many goals this season? Well, number one, our midfield rebuild is terrible. It's like building a house out of wafers. It's unstable.

21:05It's not very good. There's no pace in the midfield, so you can't protect your back four. So your back four is going to get exposed more. But on top of that, you've got a crap right back playing at left back. You've got a young centre back playing at right back. And then you've got two ageing centre backs who've got no pace. It's not a good combination and people create a lot of chances against us. Today, we actually got lucky. I know it sounds mad because we've conceded four goals, but we actually got lucky because in the first half, there were so many times when Villa played the ball for Nicholas Jackson and he would have been in one-on-one, but Jaro was quick enough.

21:38If Martinez hadn't been sent off against Chelsea, he would have played Martinez and Maguire and they'd have been destroyed by that pace. So I actually think we look better with Jaro at centre-back and Masraoui at right-back But crazily, our coach doesn't agree. So I actually thought Masraoui did OK. I'd probably give him a five. Yoro, again, look, he did make a mistake on the fourth goal, but I thought he played quite well. I'd give him a five. Maguire, I just think the lack of pace for Maguire is becoming a real problem this season that it never was last season. I mean, he's never been the quickest, but in a back four, he really struggles because we have to chase games so much.

22:20We don't play compact and deep. Maguire is a good defender in a back three where you play deep and we don't play like that. So I think his lack of pace is a problem this season. So I'll probably give him a 3.5. Deleuwe, two out of generosity. We'll never know what the score would have been if we hadn't given away a soft penalty at the start of the second half. And I'm not saying we'd have gone on to win it, but it's just crap defending. I also think the first goal in there's two goals that he's responsible for right at the start of the game. And it does affect the mood. The first goal, he's got to slide in and block the shot.

22:55The second goal, he's got to the third goal for them, the penalty. You just don't make that challenge. Tillerman's got a goal, but not quick enough for our midfield, 4.5. Maynou, I thought played quite well. I'd give him a five. five uh Ahmad's just not good enough three there's no end product Bruno nowhere near the levels I would expect I'd probably give him a four uh Kunya I think is still our best player um I thought it was I do think it was simulation on the penalty and I do think it was simulation on the penalty against Roma people get really aggy about this but Ashley Young used to do it uh Evan Hazard used to do it it's clever it's clever you move your foot towards the tackle you take the foul you feel a slight knock, you fall over.

23:40Kunja, for me, is our best player at the moment. I'd give him... I don't know how high to go. Maybe 6.5. Yeah, I thought he was good. Probably give him my man of the match. I can't think of anybody else.

23:56Embermo, just not quite where he was. 4.5. Heaven, did all right, to be fair. Probably give him a 4.5. Mason Mount, missed a couple of big chances. As a sub coming on, he did okay, 4.5. Dorgoo, good to have him back. Surely you play him at left back from now on, 5.5. Lacey, I thought he did well when he was on. I think he should have started the game, 5.5. Zerksi, again, did okay when he came on. Don't know whether I'd have him a starter, but, you know, an out-and-out forward with a bit of height and a bit of physicality. It worked all right, 5.5. Carrick, right, I just want to explain this. I know we drew.

24:39I know it was entertaining. But he has all week with us. And we go 2-0 down in the first five minutes. The crowd get on the players back. They respond it's 2-2. He has 15 minutes with us. We go down 4-2. The crowd get on their back. It ends up 4-4. I don't see what the coach did today. And I want to retrospectively say I don't see what he did against Roma either. Because again, I think it was the fans getting on the back of the players and the players responding to it. I don't see this as coaching. I see it as, I'd say 2.5. I just don't see it as coaching. I don't. I think my man of the match is the Old Trafford crowd.

25:20For the second game in a row, the crowd have got the players going, which is something our coaches can't do. If we were at Villa Park or Rome, we'd have lost both those games. It's only because of the home crowd that we've got a draw and a win. It's literally the crowd that's lifted those players and they've responded to it. And it's so obvious. So, so obvious. Man of the match, Dorgu. Kunya second. Very close. 29%, 26%. And Amenu on 10%. There you go. We have got a fan forum coming up. Goal and assist for Dorgu. 56 % of you say it was a foul. 44 % of you say it wasn't. Look, I understand the red tinted glasses.

26:03but if it's a corner in the last seconds of the game and the corner goes up and you pay no attention to the ball and you run for five metres, not looking at the ball, running towards the goalkeeper and then you turn and you whack your body into the goalkeeper. I mean, that's why it was a penalty for Martinez. That's why Martinez gave a penalty away. He was not looking at the ball. He was looking at the player and he ran and he jumped into him. It's a foul. Villa have been robbed. I didn't see it in real time. So I can't blame the referee, but I think I saw it just before we went live and I was like, oh my God, how has VAR not seen that?

26:48But look, we've got away with it. We have got away with it, but I think we've got away with it with a point. I think Carrick survived because of it. I think it's ridiculous, but Man United are in the relegation zone, by the way. I do want to just get into your comments because we have got a fan forum coming up as well there was something I wanted to just bring in

27:19where was it where are you

27:29there we go

27:33Just to anybody who thinks it's a good thing, just to anybody who thinks we're in a good position, just to anybody who's feeling happy tonight, Omar Barada FC, Rio Ferdinand FC, anyone who's celebrating that tonight with a glass of wine or a hot bath, what is there to celebrate? And who's wrong? I said this in the summer. The summer transfer window was crap. Block Goldbridge, this, that and the other, right? I ain't celebrating that. I think it's fucking embarrassing. I ain't celebrating that. It's disgusting. It's sackable. The Crystal Palace manager is probably going to get sacked. He's a point behind Man United.

28:19Crystal Palace are going to sack their manager and he's a point behind Man United. I'm sorry, Crystal Palace's expectations this season was not third place in the Champions League. Crystal Palace's wage budget is not the same as us. Crystal Palace's squad value is not the same as us. We aren't... If Crystal Palace sack their manager in the international break and we don't, we're not even Crystal Palace standards.

28:50Worth thinking about. Let's get into some of your comments, by the way. Thank you. Welcome to the Members Club, Club, Superman, Brian and Gary. Look how Wilcox and Barada celebrated. It was embarrassing. That was the minute, Mr. Darkseed. That was the minute. I knew exactly what we've been talking about for two weeks. This is the self-preservation society. This football club is sickening. It's sickening what it is. And the CEO celebrating. He's not a Man United fan. Barada doesn't support Man United. Wilcox doesn't support Man United. They're not Man United fans. They're celebrating because of themselves, because they're protected and they can justify it.

29:34How can you justify it? Look at that league table. How can you justify that? As a CEO, you are meant to be a businessman. You are meant to be somebody that has the best interests of the club at heart, fucking celebrating like he's won the World Cup. Gary just called out Carrick and squad again, says Irish Ryan. Please explain what we've just seen, says Gavin. I'm tired. We're never getting rid of Carrick, says Jacob. Rio's Instagram post is a disgrace, says Charlie. He's just, he's a glazer. I think I replied on Twitter. They once again were chanting for Carrick, says Neil. Felt violently sick watching Omar and Wilcox celebrate.

30:13Someone remind them we've shipped four at home and are in the bottom three. Yeah, and we've got a draw because of a foul. I mean, it's not tactics, is it? Sent Neil's gifted five memberships. Thank you. Matthew, welcome to Members Club. Carrick pre-game pep talk. Neil, two down after 10 minutes. Carrick, half-time pep talk. Two, four down after 10 minutes. Exactly. Sick. They want Ineos. The way Ineos celebrated that equaliser, no way they'll fire Carrick, says Peter. Has to be sacked, but they won't, says Tony. Gary calling out the ownership on US TV, says Jacob. Carrick stays equals relegation equals owners gone, says Praj.

30:48Carrick, Wilcox and Barada are out. Wholesale changes required no better time than now, says Carl. It being in the bottom three wasn't enough to prevent going behind so quickly. This manager cannot motivate the team. It's time to go, says Sean. How ironic to buy Premier League proven players when you're heading into the championship. Also, what are they celebrating? A point at home when you're 18th. My goodness, says Honza. I hit cash out on huge bet wow says Constantine I was deflated when we equalized says it all says Joe is Ricky only on panel because he is senior citizen all he says is sure is world class and Bruno is bad says Kiro well he's right about Bruno at the moment I don't think Bruno's anywhere near the levels he should be came back from two down twice give some credits says dude uh sacking Wilcox is a must shocked we haven't yet says Michael uh we're applauding trash raccoon FC says Carlo.

31:39Carrick is on board in the same ship as the players. Name him the general of the ship, but he's not a captain. The captains are the ones we need changed to prevent the ship from sinking further, says Nosk. Last six goals conceded, Deleuze at fault for four of them, says Richard. It's any other manager. They'd be gone already, says Beth. He shouldn't be here, mate. Carrick should be sacked, says Nell. He needs to go. He must go. Why is Mount coming on still? Are we that lost? Long-term, Lemenz is not good enough either, says Khalid. Glynios used hypnosis. It's super effective on Man United fans, says Shotgun Justice.

32:10Many of the performances Carrick had last season were like this as well. No style of play, lucky red card, penalty or moments of magic. I think that is the comment of the day, Andreas, because I think you're absolutely right. I think we won a lot of games like this last season with no tactics and vibes. And, you know, it's not going to get any better, is it? It's got to go. Don't remember seeing Amarim or Ten Hag clapped, says Harris. We are the team with the least victories in the Premier League, says Raman. I meant shipping that super chat, not jump. Sorry about that. A Norwegian here with autocorrect on, says Nosk.

32:41I think we got it. Karik has tainted his playing career by supporting the board. Disgrace to the badge. Look, Karik in his book apparently wrote he likes the Glazers. They're good people. When's the charity stream? Says Miro and Mr. Starfish. On Saturday. I just want to, just, want to just see if I can grab Roy Keane's comments here. If Drogue is fit enough to get a goal assist, why is Delo still starting at left-backs? Yeah, well, look, you know what? Delo being booed is not very nice and people will blame Delo. But I would always say, how many weeks of all those people who've been booing Delo said, we need to drop Delo?

33:31Weeks and weeks and weeks. So if DeLoe keeps playing and keeps making mistakes, is it DeLoe's fault or is it the manager who keeps picking him when he makes mistakes? This is where I have sympathy with DeLoe because he gets booed as he gets subbed off. But he's been crap for weeks. So is it DeLoe's fault that he keeps making mistakes and keeps getting picked? Or is it the manager? It's got to be the manager. It's got to be the manager. Dorgue is back. DeLoe should never start against us, J4. I was at Old Trafford. The last 15 minutes, Carrick just stood aimlessly there while Emery coached, says Fajk.

34:04Yoru, lucky to avoid seeing red, says Luke. I didn't think that was a red, to be fair. United DNA gimmick doesn't work. Sir Alex Ferguson tactics suited his time and there's a reason his players are poor. Carrick will relegate us, says Mohack. Ineos Vision, United wins championship in 2028, says Kier. We can't be wanting to lose matches to sack Carrick, says James. No, I didn't want to lose the game before the game. But at 4-3, with 30 seconds to go, a draw does nothing other than protect this shit I'd have took the loss because we were losing with 30 seconds to go and I think the loss would have ended this shit show and now we've got to keep carrying on and I tell you what not having to see Omar Barada celebrate a fucking equaliser to keep us in the bottom three like he's just won the bloody lottery I'd pay not to see that again but it's not but look it's not Delo's fault that Carrick keeps picking him.

35:00And it's not Carrick's fault that Wilcox and Barada won't sack him. That's where I was going with the next bit. The low being booed for being rubbish, he's been rubbish for weeks and Carrick keeps picking him. People wanting Carrick to be sacked, like I do, he can't sack himself. So the blame goes up the hill is what I'm trying to say. You know, it's bad when the players are saying there are a lot of games to play to get out of the relegation zone. We've fallen so hard, says good boy. Glazers must be loving these results, says Tom. Barada said next year says Ty just saw the craziest stat we've conceded the most goals in Europe's top five leagues in all competitions says Melo Ricky said we're missing Shaw and he'd make us win says Notorious seems like Kunja switched hobbies from surfing to diving says Gibbs Carrick only had a successful spell last season because of the intensity Amrim had the players at training with says DJ why is Carrick not playing De Ligt I think he could help us says David hi Mark I don't know how fans are celebrating looking at the fixtures realistically we should be on 27 points.

36:00City was a hit and miss. Oh, Dylan! There's a clip of me saying we've got such an easy start to the season, I'd expect minimum 12 from the first 15. I thought Man City, okay, we might lose, but Everton, Fulham, Ipswich and Hull, I was like 12 from 15. We've got eight from 30. We haven't even hit 12 yet from 10 games. games. I thought we'd have 12 points from five. We've got eight from 30. I mean, look, you can twist this as much as you like. There is no getting away from facts. And that league table next to me, that's facts. That's eight points from 15. It's horrific. It's absolutely horrific and it's sackable.

36:50Eight points in 10 and Liverpool up next. Well, it's a good point code because basically if we go to Liverpool and we lose, it's eight points from 33.

37:04And then if you win your next game, it's still 11 points from 36. You haven't got a third of your points. Our undervalued legacy fans were the 12 man tonight, says Asher. This is pathetic. Look, my man of the match, I know Dorgue won man of the match. My man and women of the match was the fans. Again, I now realise we beat Roma because of the fans. And I now realise that we got a point because of the fans. Because they're the thing that's inspiring the players. It's certainly not the coach. I don't know what we're doing. It's pathetic, says Sean. Deleuhe left back. Lacey not starting. Xerxi, our obvious forward, isn't starting.

37:38Deleuhe on the bench. We're not even Middlesbrough standard, says Carlo. Wednesday, Charity Stream, we've done that. Mojo says, if they're going to keep Carrick, the board may as well give him three players at least in January. Left back and a striker a must, but this would still be heading nowhere. Mojo, you do realise there's about seven Premier League games before January where we could lose another four. I mean, I know we're in the relegation zone, but I want to be out of it as quick as possible. That's why I want a new manager. I don't want to be going into January to sign players to stay up.

38:10I genuinely don't. I know we're in the relegation zone. I can see it. And I know we're getting bantered for being in it, but I don't want to stay in it. I don't want to be in it at Christmas. I want to be out of it as quick as possible.

38:25Yeah, that's what I want. And, you know, whether we're going to get that or not, I don't know.

38:46I'm just reading something that Sam C has posted. What do you expect over the next couple of weeks, Michael? I know you've been asked time and time again about your future. I feel like you care so much about the club that if you thought you walking away was the best thing, you'd probably do it. I'm not. But what do you expect to happen? A club this big in this situation, clearly there's going to be conversations. You're a football man. You know that better than me. Is there? You would assume so, right? Would you? What do you think, Michael? But you're telling me, what do you think? I'm asking you what you think.

39:09What do you expect to happen in the next couple of weeks? We haven't won enough games, but I expect to move forward and keep working on the things that we've been working on and showing a lot of the good in the game today. Tighten up a few mistakes and win football matches. Yeah, he's going to fucking nowhere, is he? If they're going to keep Carrick, the board may as well give him three players. That was Mojo. Kunja Dive, Le Mans foul, still United fans, says Kstone. There's no replacement. That's why Carrick's in, says Lee. International break time. Carrick and Wilcox should go. Transfer policy needs re-evaluating.

39:37Two or three established players every summer and one Brighton type signing to take a chance on, says Amon. Just going back to the last point there, it doesn't make you not a United fan if you think Kunja simulates to win penalties and Le Mén's fouled their goalkeeper. I mean, we're in the bottom three. If we were in the title race and we're playing good football, you're a lot more excited and forgiving of those mistakes. The red tinted glasses do come on. When your club's showing no ambition and you're fucking shit and you're scamming results on essentially, you know, what I'm saying is I have a lot of sympathy for Aston Villa on that equaliser.

40:14I do. I do. International break time. Carrick and Wilcox should go. Transfer policy needs re-evaluating as well. That was from Amano. Did you see some Dutch fans blocked their team buzz from getting to the game? Says Jafrakan. Once the players are not saving the manager, any manager that picks Deleuze again and again needs to be sacked, Carrick needs to resign. He's not the man. Says Games. Jack thank you very much for the super chat OK should we get over to the fan forum because I just think I need to go for a walk I need to get some fresh air I need to get a break and yeah I mean look I did expect that tomorrow we might finally do what needs to be done I'm not expecting it at all now so we will see but let's let's see what they got to say on the fan forum

41:06I'm very interested to see what Ricky's got to say. Look, my message is always been everyone's entitled to their opinion, but you're also entitled to have a different opinion to somebody else. If you are somebody that's saying stick with Carrick, you are protecting Wilcox and Berada. You saw the way they reacted to that equaliser. That's not the reaction of a fan. That's a reaction of people who are thinking about themselves. That was pure relief. We can keep Carrick and protect ourselves. The minute we remove Carrick, they're exposed. Wilcox and Barada and Sir Jim and the Glazers will never be in trouble while Carrick's there protecting them.

41:48He's walking off being cheered by fans when he's in the bottom three. He protects them. If he had got sacked because he lost today, we move on to the next thing. That doesn't happen now. This pretense carries on. I'd love Carrick to resign. He won't do it. He doesn't have to, and he won't. But how you can be happy about third from bottom. I said this before, and this is what makes me not a hypocrite. The decision to keep Carrick should never have been about Aston Villa. You've got 10 games, and you've got January to May. You've got a whole big story. You don't need to tell the story from one page.

42:31They should have known, regardless of the Villa result, you're making a decision on Monday. If you want to keep him and you lose, it's idiotic, but you keep him. If you want to sack him and you win, you sack him. They've clearly kept the Villa game as their decision. And for me, a loss or a draw is sackable. For them, a win or a draw was obviously keeping because you could see that from Barada. That's incredible. But don't lose sight of fact of that league table. Ten games, one win, third from bottom, amazingly crap performances, confusing tactics, vibe football. The only results we've had has been on vibe football as well.

43:21Roma was because of the fans. Today was because of the fans. Ipswich was because of a handball by Maguire that technically wasn't a handball. It's a mess, but apparently it's all good. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you on the next one. Let's get over to the fan forum.

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