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1:46Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Manchester United news as Michael Carrick buys himself more time with a big win against Roma last night. Also, Jason Wilcox, does he win again? Is this actually a bad thing for the future of Man United with a win against Roma? Does it sweep the problems under the carpet? Also, Emery being mentioned by Romano again. We'll delve into that and a lot more reaction too. In fact, we've had a very good comment in the live chat here from Dividinho, one of our members with a beautiful light blue badge. actually looks good on there.

2:22Great win, but very worried it sweeps the real problems under the rug for a while anyway. Look, I think that, well, what I would say this morning is I'm Carrick out. That doesn't change it. I'd feel a massive hypocrite if I was Carrick in after last night and I'll explain why in a minute. But I don't sit here like some people. I've seen United fans in the Stretford end having the piss taken out of them last night because of the rubbish balloons that went off in protest of the Glazers. I've seen people saying that people shouldn't be celebrating that and that Rooney's reaction and Ashley Young and Nicky Butts' reaction next to Carrick was just beggy.

3:01And I'm like, hold on a minute. Have you ever been to a football match? I mean, I don't get to go to Old Trafford as much as I like and as much as I used to. But when you're in there, it's called the Theatre of Dreams for a reason. It's a cauldron. It's a theatre. And you are there to be entertained. and you can't help but get pulled into this love for the club and these moments. And nobody can begrudge anybody. I was happy that we won last night, but if you're in that ground, you're going to get sucked in by the Cunha performance, the United win from 2-0 down. Don't begrudge people Man United winning a game and being entertained by it.

3:38I mean, look, everybody's entitled to their opinion. I agree with what Romano has said. I agree with what a lot of journalists have said. that win for Carrick probably means he's here till Christmas, if we're being completely honest. There's a big reluctance to sack him because, and for the reasons we already know, they don't want to sack him because it will cost them money and they don't want to sack him because it will probably cost Wilcox his job. So there's egos and finances at play here and the United are ultimately a business. But I think if he'd lost last night and he'd lost on Sunday, then you'd have to replace him.

4:11So if you wanted a new manager, then I understand that maybe last night doesn't help us. But from a point of view of a Man United, we did need to win that game. We need to win every game, but we needed to win that game. Look, there's a lot of things I want to talk about. First things first, I'm just going to say this from the off. Watching Man United win last night was really, really good. But when the camera cuts to Carrick or it cuts to Wilcox or Bruno or Barada, it's almost like a stunned excitement. And what I mean by that is that when you've got a Sir Alex Ferguson running a club or a Pep Guardiola running a club and you've got proper leadership, there is a composure, there is a vision, and there is an understanding of what's happening in front of them.

4:57I think with United yesterday, every time they cooked to Barada and Wilcox, they just look bewildered. And even when we were winning, it was almost relief. And the same with Carrick. And what I mean by that is United have no direction. It's like they're doing laps on an ice rink. And when they spin off, it's like, oh, my God, we've spun off. But when they stay on, they're almost shocked. And I think last night, all I saw from the dugout and from the stands of the leaders of this football club is they don't really know where we're going. It's just, can we stay on the ice? And it's going to stay slippy.

5:35And we're going to keep slipping off. And sometimes we'll stay on. But I don't feel like last night gave us any direction. I think we all know why we won last night. There was some brilliant individual performances from people like Yoro and Kunya and Lacey coming off the bench and Maynou. There's some very good individual performances. and Roma are just one of those weird teams that will not change their principles. And I was trying to think of a team that's like that, a bit like Bielsa with Leeds. I play this way and this is how I'm going to play. Well, Roma should have been 3-4-0 up at halftime, right?

6:09Le Mendes makes a brilliant save from Malin and they had a couple of other chances to get 1-1 and they messed it up. Even at 3-4-0, the way they played in the second half, I wouldn't have ruled it out coming back. Like they should have locked that game in the second half and they didn't. And that allowed it to be an open game and that benefited us. But look, let me not jump around the ice here. Let me just say this. I never wanted to be Carrick out. I never wanted him to be the coach, but I never wanted to be Carrick out. Respect him massively as an ex-player legend, as far as I'm concerned. So people don't agree with that.

6:44I didn't really want to be Karik out at any point this season, certainly not before November. But I was. I was for the reasons I've said. I think the fitness is appalling. I think the football is appalling. I think the tactics are appalling. And I just don't see any vision or best 11. I don't think he's a very good coach and I don't think his coaches are very good. And when I got to that point, I said, look, sadly, I'm Carrick out, not with the venom or, you know, ferocity of maybe what I had with previous managers. But I was definitely I've definitely said I'm Carrick out. So I'm not going to sit here this morning and be proven wrong or, you know, silenced or, you know, pretend that I'm now Carrick in.

7:33I just think it's I'm not backing. No, big Sammy, can I just finish my point? people jumping in. So you're backing down now as well. No, I'm Carrick out this morning. I want him sacked. I want him gone. I want Wilcox gone. I want Barada gone. I want the owners gone. I'm happy that we won, but I just feel I'd be a massive hypocrite if I woke up this morning and said, yeah, I think he's the guy now for 45 minutes. The first half was horrendous. it was horrendous the second half was entertaining I'm not I'm not Carrick in now because he's won a game of football and I think people who are well that's up to you good luck with it would I like this to get turned around I wanted it to get turned around with Tanag I wanted it to get turned around with Mourinho the easiest thing in the world is not having to spend money on a new manager and have another rebuild the easiest thing in the world is for the current thing to work because everything's already in play.

8:33And I've said that about previous managers, but it never happens. And I don't think it's going to happen this time. So no, I'm 100 % Caracal. Respectfully, I'm 100 % Caracal. I'm not changing my mind because we had a good 45 minutes against the Roma team that was wide open. And I won't change my mind if we beat Villa. I will change my mind if we go and win five or six more games in a row and we play really, really well. And we don't have to win five or six games in a row. I mean, look, if we get a draw at Anfield and then we win the next game and we beat Villa on Sunday and we start to play better football, it's more entertaining.

9:07We're building some momentum. I would say, look, you've got to stick with it. But ultimately, I still don't think he's the right guy. But right here, right now, I'd sack him today. I'm not changing my mind because of that performance last night. And that's not being negative, being a hater or being anti-character or anything like that. It's just, I'm not changing my mind. I find it very difficult to be a manager out. I was very late on Mourinho. I was very late on Oli. I was very late on Ten Hag. I was very late on Amrim. And I feel like with Carrick, I've just been very early, but I think that's his fault.

9:43I think that's because he's just not a very good coach. So I'm Carrick out. I mean, I'm not screaming and shouting it. I don't expect it to happen, but I'm not changing my mind based on that. I still fundamentally don't think he's a very good coach. I still fundamentally think the club is not going to turn itself around. And, you know, I was thinking about this last night. When I look at what Carrick has got in front of him or the next manager, that summer transfer window where we rebuilt the midfield, we didn't rebuild the midfield. The previous summer where we rebuilt the attack, we didn't rebuild the attack.

10:17Like, there are so many things wrong with this team long term that he's not going to solve it. I don't look at that manager and think he's good enough, but I don't look at that squad and go, you know what, it's good enough. And I certainly don't look at the board and think, I mean, we found out in the last 48 hours that Jason Wilcox mentioned the word Russell Martin as a Man United manager. He's already mentioned the words Liam DeLapp and this is the guy moulding our future. I'm sorry, if you've got Mr Bean running your bloody football club, things are going to go wrong. And I think in relation to Ineos, the Glazers and the board, this ain't going to go well.

10:55It's not going to go well. There is nothing to actually go. This is going to work. We're not going to be where we need to be. It's just not going to happen. The decision makers have already made that very, very clear. We just, I mean, look at Deleuze last night. That's our left back. That's our left back is Deleuze. We haven't bought a left back. At right back, we've got Yoro doing a good job, but he's not really a right back. In the midfield, we've got no legs now because Balaba's going to be out for two months. And can I just say on Balaba, if you don't understand anything about fitness and recruitment, watch that Balaba injury, because all that is, is somebody sprinting and he's now probably out for two months.

11:35Now, anybody with a brain would look at that and go, how is a player that's never really had any injury problems come to Man United and popped his hamstring sprinting to try and score a goal? What has gone on there on the training ground over the last six weeks to take a player that doesn't get injuries and then he sprints and he pops his hamstring? It's wild. But look, people don't want to have this conversation. There is a huge problem with our fitness. and it's strange to me that Balaba did that in a game like that, sprinting in a straight line and his hamstring goes. And Dorgou, same problem.

12:17Dorgou's hamstrings keep popping as well. I don't know whether Dorgou had that problem previously at Lecce, but this is two young players that we brought into the club who are popping their hamstrings. Something is just not right, fundamentally just not right there. So there's a huge problem with fitness. But, you know, you look at the next few weeks and you go Villa on Sunday. I don't think we'll lose. That gives Carrick the international break. You come back and then it's that hectic combination of December, Christmas fixtures. January is always hectic. Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup.

12:54I just don't. I know Mourinho went in January, but then you end up with an interim, don't you? So, yeah, look, I don't think last night changes a lot for me. Let me know whether it changes anything for you. But and the great point about last night as well, because there are some there is some stuff about Emery and stuff I want to talk about. The great thing about the win last night is that when I described Carrick as a glazer, people thought I was just saying it for effect. It works even better this morning. Carrick is a glazer. I said this about 10 days ago. There is a line now. You're either against this ownership and regime or you're with it.

13:32Now, Carrick very much sits with it. The players sit very much with it. Some of our ex-players sit with it. Some of our fans stick with it. And some of us are on this side. And being on this side means that you Carrick out. You don't trust the players. You don't trust some of the ex-players. You don't trust the board. You don't trust the owners. I'm sitting over here. And this is what I mean about Carrick being a Glazer, because all you saw last night after that win was people singing Carrick's name, journalists talking about Carrick. And all he's actually doing, who's the big winner this morning?

14:06Carrick's a winner. We're a winner. But who's the real winner? Wilcox, Berada, the Glazers, Ineos. The pressure's gone. All those balloons at the start of the game, they've all been popped now. No one's talking about Wilcox or Ineos or the Glazers now. And this is what I mean. Michael Carrick, whether he realises it or not, is just another ollie. It's someone we as the fan base love who is actually paid by the Glazers to protect them. He protects the Glazers. Every interview he's been... Look, compare him to De Zerbe. In the summer, De Zerbi got spent money on for Tonali and Mateus Fernandes. And in the last two weeks of the window, he was saying, I haven't got enough.

14:48I need a striker of this. If you listen to De Zerbi interviews, even now he's still saying, I need more. I need more. Because he's in a position of power. They begged him to take the job to keep them up. And he said, I don't want it. And they said, how much money? He's one of the best paid Premier League managers, right? But not only that, he has total and utter autonomy on transfers. and they've made promises to him that they're going to back him. So De Zerbe's at Spurs with control. They're listening to him. And when he's in interviews, he says what he wants because he knows he's in control.

15:22Michael Carrick doesn't get backed in the summer. Every time he gets asked about the summer, he says, oh, they've tried their best. Imagine what De Zerbe would say if he'd been delivered a summer like that. He'd be like, I'm resigning. What a load of bollocks this is. And this is what I mean. the contract that Carrick signed is so bloody weak. He's basically protecting them. He protects Wilcox. He protects Barada. He protects Glazers. He protects Ineos. And I was saying this to Wayne on Tuesday, and this is what I was talking about. He shields the problem. And he never calls out the problem. Amrim, Ranić called out the problem.

15:58Mourinho called out the problem. Oli Carrick never called out the problem. And the problem is our ownership. And Carrick protects them. So every time people are quite rightly praising Carrick or singing about Carrick, really, he's just a glazer protecting them. And it works perfectly after Roma because I don't know that winning that game last night ultimately does us any favours in the real change that needs to happen at the football club. And a lot of people have said that. Man United winning games with Carrick just shields this ownership. But look, the next guy could come in and do it as well.

16:39I don't actually have the answer, but 100 % Carrick's a glazer. He's paid by them. Darren Fletcher's a glazer. Steve Holland's a glazer. Johnny Evans is a glazer. They can't take their money and then go, well, I'm not. I'm all about Man United. You're all about Man United in your world. You're paid by the people that have destroyed this football club. So you're a glazer. If he resigned, then that would be very different. And I'm not saying he has to resign, but let's not pretend that there is a separate entity here. Let's not pretend there is a fan base, there is an ownership, and then there's the players and the manager who are in the middle.

17:19They're paid by them. They're run by them. They jump to their tune. That's the problem. And they're the problem at Man United. So there is a line. You're either on that side or you're on that side. And for some of us, it's quite confusing at the moment. But winning last night proves my point. There's no point saying that Carrick and the players are glazers when we're losing because it just sounds vindictive. They are when we win. They protect them. And the real winners this morning are Jason Wilcox, Omar Barada, Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers. And do I want them to win? No, I want them gone.

17:53I think they're an absolute illness on this football club, in my opinion. And they will sit there this morning more relaxed because they'll be in a safer position. I don't know what the solution is, though. I don't know what the solution is. I'm not saying that Sakin Carrick makes it better. you know total and utter reset but you know hey it's Hannah Burner from Giggly Squad and the holidays are around the corner which means I'm officially entering my hostess Hannah era with arm and hammer hardball cat litter you guys know I love cats and fostering but when I'm hosting I do not want my house smelling like cats I want people focusing on my hosting skills that's why I love arm and hammer hardball cat litter.

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19:59it's a tough one, isn't it? Because you want Man United to win because at the very fundamental, easy

20:08point of being a United fan is you want to win. But the bigger picture, I mean, I've seen a few people saying it this morning and can you argue with it? Would we be in a better position this morning if we'd lost or won? I'd say we're in a better position winning the game. But then I think waking up this morning, losing at home to Roma. Put it this way. If we lose the game last night, is Wilcox, Barada, Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers under more pressure? Yes. If we win the game last night, is the pressure off? Yes. And that's, that's I suppose the way to look at it, isn't it? But the club's a mess.

20:50The club's an absolute mess and I suppose it depends what you think about it. If you want to sit here and say, we're back and everything's going to be okay, fine. If you want to sit here and say, I'm just going to take it game to game. And if we win, I'm not going to look any further than the next game. Probably the right thing to do. If you're going to look at it and go long-term, this is going to go bad, very bad. Then I don't necessarily disagree with you. I think what I'm trying to do is probably just go game to game and hope that and deal with that. But you shouldn't run a football club like that.

21:27But I think they are. I think they're going game to game and saying, we'll just deal with that if we win. And I haven't been on Instagram, but I would imagine there was a lot of players on Instagram last night because that's what we are. It's brand Man United, isn't it. But long term, I think we've got problems. He's still picking Maguire. He still clearly wants to put Martinez back in that team. They're not good enough at centre-back as a centre-back pairing. We haven't got a left-back. Jorro isn't really a right-back. We no longer have any legs in the midfield because Balaba's going to be gone for a while.

22:04So whatever you think about Balaba, and I don't think he's been great, I think the more he played, the hope would be the better he gets. His first season is injury prone already. He missed the first two months with an injury and he's going to miss the next two months with an injury. So Baleba's gone. That leaves no pace in the midfield and you either go Maynou and Tillemans in the midfield and have no defensive cover or you go Maynou and Santos in the midfield and Santos has struggled. And there's not a lot of depth there now. We have got no striker. Embermo's done okay. Ahmad needs dropping. Bruno is Bruno.

22:35I presume Kunia now will be playing off the left but we'll have to wait and see. So there's still a lot wrong with that team going into a very long season. But I think we've just got to take it game by game, haven't we, and see what happens. Let me just delve into a bit of news this morning because there is quite a bit coming out. JJ Gabriel is apparently signing for Real Madrid. I mean, I don't think that'll come as a surprise to anybody. I still have my thoughts on it, but I don't tend to dwell on it. You know, I think it's just one of those, isn't it? And hopefully it doesn't come and bite us in the arse too much.

23:13Fabrizio Romano has said that the directors, those who are making decisions, are under scrutiny at Man United. The situation of the directors is one to watch, not just that of Carrick. So Fabrizio Romano basically saying that the board are under scrutiny and under pressure. But he also said this win gives Carrick more time. Aston Villa game now key as another home loss would have put him in real danger. United still rate Emery highly long term, but Villa won't let him leave mid-season. I don't like this. I don't like this. I just don't think you can do that. And I would call this out. I don't think you can do this.

23:53I call PR, I call spin and I call bullshit. What that Romano update basically does is say that Carrick's under scrutiny, but they want Emery and they can't get Emery. So let's stick with Carrick and it'll work. It'll work on immature minds because they'll go, yeah, keep Carrick till the end of the season and then get Emery. We've literally did this in January. This fan base needs to forget, let's stick with this till the end of the season and get that. Because we've fallen into that trap too many times. With Oli, after Mourinho, at Christmas, it was Oli till the summer and then get a proper manager.

24:35But Oli's done okay, give him the job. With Amorim, Amorim gets sacked at Christmas, Carrick comes in, let's give him till summer and then get a proper manager in. But Carrick's done all right, give him the job. If we do this again, Emery in the summer, Carrick till the end of the season, Carrick gets his fifth. He's doing a good job, keep Carrick. Don't fall for the bullshit. If you want Unai Emery, you go and get Unai Emery next week. You don't stick with what we've got to pretend you're getting Emery in the summer. This is not like signing Kylian Mbappe. This is a manager. They have a price.

25:12As I said to you the other day, we've just spent 48 million pounds on Santos. and we won't spend 25 million on Emery now. It's an absolute bargain. You don't need to wait till the summer. So I don't believe the Emery stuff. I don't believe it at all. I think it's probably just a distraction and not actually something that's likely to happen. But going back, a few people talking about, well, what do you think about Romano saying the directors being under pressure? Ultimately, some people won't like this. if Wilcox and Barada are under pressure, then the only way they lose their job is if Carrick loses his.

25:53And people won't like this, but there is no scenario where Carrick stays and Wilcox and Barada get sacked. It's so obvious and many journalists know it. I don't know why they're not reporting it because it's well known. The only way Wilcox or Barada lose their job is if Carrick loses his. because they're all interlocked. Wilcox recommended Carrick, Barada recommended Wilcox. So if Carrick does well, Wilcox and Barada don't go. Carrick basically is protecting them. If he does well, they stay. If he loses his job, they're under pressure. So I think Simon Stone wrote about this last week. There was an article on Wilcox this week by The Athletic.

26:41There is no scenario. well Carrick wins Wilcox wins Brutus is right there is no scenario where we keep Carrick and Wilcox goes if you want Wilcox to go and it's not guaranteed then Carrick needs to fail if Carrick succeeds Wilcox stays that's why Carrick is still here because it's going to take a decision above Jason Wilcox Wilcox wanted to sack Amorim he knocked on the door and said I fell out with him we need to sack him and they sacked him Wilcox is never going to knock on the door and say sack Carrick because he'll be sacking himself. So look, I'm not disputing what Simon Stone or The Athletic or Romano have said about Wilcox being under pressure.

27:26But he only comes under real pressure if Carrick goes because that's his protection. That's his guy. So yeah, if you want the board to get replaced, then Carrick needs to go. They go hand in hand. There's no scenario where that doesn't happen if Carrick does well. If Carrick does well, look, put it like this.

27:51If Carrick does well, Wilcox recommended him. So he's not failing, is he? That's how it will work. Simple. I wish you would start Lacey more, says Rakeem. I mean, look, I think that... Excuse me, I think in relation to last night,

28:11there's still a lot wrong with that team and there still will be a lot with that team wrong we're still wide open in the midfield we're still wide open in the defence I think our best tactic is to try and outscore the opposition and I know that's very obvious but that's basically what happened last night I said it in the first half it was like a basketball game the way Roma played was incredible it was so open at no point did they respect us enough to defend it was like a game of basketball it was like you attack we attack you attack we attack and in the first half they could have been three or four nil up but in the second half we could have had three or four um and ultimately we won the game three two i don't think we're going to have many games in the premier league where a team says you attack we attack you attack we attack it was it was unique and it was entertaining it was a lot You can't argue with that.

29:05But I think Roma threw away a result at half-time. But fair play. I mean, you can't argue with a coach like that, and it must be great to watch. However, I think just on Lacey, look, Ahmad needs taking out that team. It's just whether you want to start Lacey on the right or you want to try something else. Personally, I think we're crying out for some positivity and excitement and Lacey delivers that. And you just feel with Lacey that there's an end product. Ahmad offers no end product and it's been going on for a year. You've got to question his IQ footballing-wise in the final third because there's just nothing.

29:55There's no goals, there's no assists. he got the ball a couple of times last night and I was laughing because you just knew it was going to be a misplaced pass or it's going to hit the defender so look, Lacey into that team has to be nailed on against Villa and that instantly gives you a boost at the start of the game when the fans see Lacey on the right and not Ahmad you instantly know that well, the ball's not going out to the right and nothing's going to happen something could happen but one of Carrick's big failings this year has been playing people out of position. But one of Carrick's big failings this summer was bringing Marcus Rashford straight into the team and sacrificing Kunya.

30:36And if I was a journalist, I would have asked that question a long time ago. And I'd certainly be asking it in the next press conference. Why did you sacrifice Kunya from a team that finished third to integrate Marcus Rashford back into the team? Especially when we know that Marcus Rashford's injured and injured to such an extent that we haven't seen him for weeks. Why did you sacrifice Kunja? Why, you know, surely if you'd just started the season with Kunja, you could almost argue we'd be in a better position. So he's got to use Kunja now because Kunja can just, he can make things happen, can't he?

31:12But yeah, there's still a lot of question marks about that team. And look, I think that I look at the next few games, actually, I just wanted to feed this in. And look, I get it. I think there are people out there that expect United to sack Michael Carrick next week. I don't. I don't. I don't expect to see that happening next week. I think the result last night probably does enough for them that even if we lost to Villa, I still think they would keep him. Maybe not, but I still feel that that would happen. But our next few fixtures, we've got Villa at home, which we need to win. That league table, I'm not going to depress people this morning, but we need to win.

32:03We then come back from the international break and we go to Anfield, which will be very difficult. It's not impossible. We won there last year, didn't we? Yeah, we won there last year.

32:17With Ameren, so it could happen. we then go to sporting which will be difficult as well I think they're doing quite well in the Champions League we then got Brentford at home which again will be difficult this is all in the space of six days by the way Sunday Liverpool away Wednesday sporting away Saturday Brentford at home so what three big games in six days straight after the international break which that worries me on the word fitness then the following Wednesday we've got to go to Newcastle the Saturday afternoon we play Coventry then on the Tuesday we play Leipzig on the Sunday we play Palace then we have a week off and then we play Arsenal so and that's a way so it's it's a tough run of fixtures up until Christmas and it would be great to sit here and say if he survives the international break he'll be here till the new year but I think we might be kicking the ball down the road.

33:20If I was Sir Jim Radcliffe, I would be saying to the board, look, if he beats Villa on Sunday, we won't sack him in the international break. But Liverpool sporting, he loses those two games and we've got to sack him straight after. So whatever happens in the international break, let's speak to coaches and have people lined up. And I think that's all I would say. I'm very relaxed about this. If he beats Villa, I wouldn't sack him. I wouldn't. It's not fair. I would not sack him. But I think people are obsessed about this international break. If he survives it, he's here till the summer. And if he doesn't, we change, right?

34:01There's no rule that says you can't sack a manager at the end of the month or in the middle of December. So if we beat Villa, if I'm Sir Jim Radcliffe, I'm saying to Wilcox and Barada and Favell, get a manager ready to go. Get a contract, get it all ready to go. You've got two weeks. Get me, two managers, ready to take this job like that. If we don't need to, maybe we'll revisit it in the summer. but get the two managers lined up and ready to go at the drop of a hat because we haven't got that at the moment. So then if we beat Villa on Sunday, we stick with Carrick but when we come back from the international break if we get beat by Liverpool and Sporting and we're shit, you go, you're sacked and then you move.

34:48We don't have to do it in the international break. It can happen at the end of the November or it can happen in early December because the amount of games we've lost and the way we've performed this season You can't go and give him another two months. It's going to go game to game to game to game. If we'd lost last night, people would be demanding the sack. Because we've won, it gives you to Villa. And if we beat Villa, it gives you to Liverpool. But I don't think Carrick is in a position where if you beat Villa, people will go, oh, give him till January. It's going to roll. You know what I mean?

35:26It's going to roll game to game to game. So the job for the board and the owner is to have somebody actually ready to go if this goes pear-shaped. Now, if he goes and wins the next six, seven, eight games, obviously you're going to stick with him till the summer, aren't you? But that's going to be very, very difficult. We're in the bottom three, basically. Let me get into your comments here, having your say. Thanks for being patient, as always. Let me know how you're feeling. Kunja played well because he played deep and central, like when he was at Wolves, says Zohar. Yeah, I mean, look, I think this is a very intelligent comment.

36:06And I think that when you look at the team yesterday and over the last few weeks, Bruno isn't always in the 10. He's sometimes like against Chelsea, Bruno played on the left wing and Kunja played more central. there's no doubt last night that Carrick was trying to put player back three at times and it backfired didn't it we saw less of that in the second half but don't mix it right this isn't on Carrick this isn't on Kunya and this isn't on Amrim when we got Amrim we went to a 3-4-3 and it had two number 10s in it so effectively you bought Cunha because Bruno and Cunha couldn't be the 10s and also Mbremo when you sacked Amorim you went back to a system with one number 10 where it's always going to be Bruno so you have to play Cunha out of position so when we bought Cunha it made sense because we were going to play with two number 10s when we sacked Amorim and remember Cunha openly admits he signed for Man United because he supports the club and Amorim persuaded him and same with Embermo.

37:24So look, it was the Ameren project that Kunja signed up for. He now finds himself in a system where he doesn't really get played in his position, but you're absolutely correct. Kunja is at his most dangerous when he's playing as a 10. Bet Omar, Wilcox and Radcliffe did a Morpheus at the third goal. He's the one, says Bada. Does second half comeback debunk lack of fitness theory, says Top End. No. So again, I think this is a great question, but it doesn't debunk it because... Let's be honest. If you have a cat, you've probably wondered what your house smells like before guests walk in. Thankfully, Arm & Hammer Cat Litter helps take that worry off your plate.

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39:50maybe Carrick said to them, don't exert too much energy in the first half because we'll need it in the second half. I mean, there was no energy in the first half. There was plenty of energy in the second half. Against Chelsea, there was a lot of energy in the first half and there was no energy in the second half. And so until we see a 90-minute performance of fitness and intensity, I would still say we're only capable of playing at an intense speed for half a game. it definitely was impressive in the second half I'm not going to lie but then again when you're playing at home in front of your own crowd and you're 2-0 down how much does the adrenaline kick you on?

40:32if we'd been in Rome and 2-0 down with a crowd that wasn't with us would we have been able to pull those extra resources? because they were definitely feeding off what was a fantastic atmosphere So no, I don't think we're out of the woods in relation to fitness. Win or lose on Sunday. Carrick has to go on Monday. One win doesn't change anything. Do you think we can beat Villa? Yeah, I do. I don't think Villa were very good against Fulham.

41:02If I was Unai Emery, this is a potential audition for the Man United job. So you're going to want to beat Carrick, but you're going to want to beat Man United anyway. Be interesting to see how he sets his team up, Aston Villa, because if they come and they're well organised and they play with intensity, I think we will struggle. But I can see at least a draw for United. I don't think we'll lose. I don't see Carrick being sacked next week. I don't think there's any plan to do it and I don't think there's any appetite to do it. Reality is you're right that their league don't match the Premier League.

41:39That's why this Man United side can beat their third in their league in a combat. There is no way they can do that in the Premier League, says Kay. Yeah, and thank you for acknowledging that, Kay. I've said this for a long time. I've watched a lot of European football. I used to watch a lot of Italian football when I was like 10 years of age on Channel 4. And I've always said of Italian football, it won't do anything in Europe in the modern game because it's too slow. And obviously, Como battered us, but look at that second half. That's what I expect of Italian teams when they come up against high-intensity Premier League teams, Bundesliga teams.

42:12there was not a lot of pace in that Roma side. And I do think that if we played like we did in the second half at Old Trafford against Como, we'd probably give them a game as well. I don't think Italian football is on the up. I think it's good to watch, but I don't think it's on the up. I might be wrong on that. What if we get a new manager and get a bounce? The focus will again shift from the real problems the owner and the board, says Sam. Mate, I think when you look at the fixtures we've got, if you're a new manager let's say they sack Carrick next week your first three games are in six days are Liverpool away Sporting away and Brentford at home I don't necessarily think we get a new manager bounce then you've got to go Newcastle away Daniel says I'll always celebrate a win and happy we won but it's what's next as can't just be one win I still see no plan or vision energy and intensity is awful square pegs round holes in a mess Lacey must be starting says Daniel and also I think a great thing I would say last night is in that second half, as good as it was do you think it was tactical or do you think it was players or do you think it was a bit of both?

43:26To be honest, I think it was a bit of both. I certainly don't think Michael Carrick sat them all down at half time and said this is what you need to do to win. I think there was a lot of playing on your

43:41instinct. You look at that third goal, it's just three good players linking up in Lacey, Maynou and Kunja. But what I would say is I'm absolutely convinced, and this is why I gave Carrick a six in the player ratings. In the first half, we were playing long ball and it wasn't working. And Roma was so open. I would be stunned if Michael Carrick didn't say, stop hitting the long ball and trust yourself to pass and move yourself up the pitch because this is not a difficult press to play through. They haven't got legs in the midfield and there's wide open space. So instead of going long, let's look for the triangle passes.

44:20Let's look for the one twos. And we started to do that and we got a lot more success. So I would give Carrick credit for that, even though I could fucking see it and I'm sure you could see it. They've made us fans feel like underdogs in games and at the same time, they also have no trust in their own plans. Uncertainty breeds inconsistency, says Zot. Santos in the Brazil squad, but not Cunha, says Robert McCormack. I think Brazil are really struggling, Robert, in relation to... Well, you might have watched my World Cup coverage. I said Brazil won't get past the quarterfinals and they didn't. I don't think Brazil are very good.

44:53And I don't think they've got a lot of contingency after Casemiro in their midfield either. Chris says, can you see a marquee signing in January to try and get the fans on side? I'd worry about that Chris because what can you do in January that's marquee I mean look I'll say this right now that wasn't a midfield rebuild so whether Carrick continues or a new manager comes in you can't be saying to the next manager we've done the midfield if I was Michael Carrick I'd be saying if I'm here for the next two or three years you do realise you need to buy me some midfielders and if I was a new manager I'd go in and say you do need to buy me I mean, I just, I don't know whether it's just me.

45:34I do not see that that midfield is rebuilt at all. I think that midfield is a big, big problem. Tillemans is 30. So he needs replacing anyway. He's not, I can already see that Tillemans is a short-term fix. Maynou needs to be able to stay fit. I think he's so important to us. Santos, God knows what's going to happen with him. And Balaba, God knows what's going to happen with him. So I'm already looking at that midfield and I'm going, I actually would, let's not leave the midfield. I look at that midfield and I go, I actually need more, you know. Morning, Mark. For me, there's still not a sustainable future under Carrick and he should be replaced.

46:11I was encouraged that Romano said there is heavy scrutiny on the directors even after last night. Yeah, but what I would say about that, James, is the scrutiny on the directors will only become more if Carrick goes. If he survives, he protects those people because they're, you know, obviously they'd be seen as a success if Carrick goes well. However, whoever signs a contract to Manchester to manage United under these owners will be with this regime. The fact is we need more pressure from Glynios out, says Big Z. yeah but the trouble with that is is that if you watched last night's coverage of Amazon Prime and you saw what Nicky Bott said on his podcast the day before you would think that Lissandro Martinez is responsible for the debt the knocking down of Old Trafford the fact that we're in the relegation zone the crap summer recruitment I mean the pile on of Lissandro Martinez on Amazon Prime and by certain ex-players in the media over the last three days got to a point that when he was sat on the bench yesterday, I felt sorry for him.

47:16I was like, he must be sat there going, what the fucking hell is going on at this football club? I mean, I've got an ex-player that wants to scrap with me. I've got another ex-player saying, kick me out of the club. and I'm like, look, you can have a grown-up conversation about Martinez. He was reckless against Chelsea and it was irresponsible, but we were already losing 1-0 and we were playing shit. Two weeks ago, we were saying build a statue because he was calling out Jason Wilcox. Now, he's public enemy number one and he's responsible for everything and I was like, you know what? I can smell a smokescreen and bloody mile off and he was...

47:54The scapegoating of Martinez has completely shielded Wilcox, Sparada, the players, Carrick, the Ineos, Glazers. If he was Luke Shaw, it would be very different. If he had a British passport, it'd be very different. And last night, I was like, they have found their scapegoat. And I am not defending Martinez. Like, the sending off was ridiculous. And he's not had a very good season. But it was like he was responsible for everything. and it's almost like a brief has gone round, blame Martinez, because some of the stuff that people were coming out of, kick him out of the club in January, do this, and they're like, hold on a minute.

48:37He hasn't been very good this season, but neither's Maguire, neither's Bruno, you know, Ahmad, like there's so many players that have been bad this season and Martinez is the responsible. And I thought, you know what? What's Martinez done to make himself the scapegoat? Oh, I know. I know. He's called out the club and it's lack of ambition. And, you know, this is why the Glazer Out movement stops. I got a bit of shit on the watch along last night about not supporting a walkout in the Villa game. I don't even know what the walkout is. I still don't know what the walkout is. But that ain't fucking happening on Sunday.

49:16Now, that sounds a great idea after losing to Chelsea, but there ain't no walkout happening on Sunday. In fact, the person or people who've organised that walkout expect a load of abuse over the next few days because we beat Roma. Your walkout, your protest, your sponsor targeting ain't going to do nothing because we just beat Roma. and that's why we fail and that's why they win because you can lose loads of games but if you win one, we're back. So I don't know what the walkout is. I don't know whether there's a protest coming but that's what you're up against. You can be shit for two months but if you win one game where you play well in the second half, it's all over.

50:03And on top of that, you can be responsible for the debt, the destruction of the football club over two decades, knocking down Old Trafford, a shit summer transfer window. But all that gets forgotten because Lissandro Martinez got sent off against Chelsea. The spin, Kylie Minogue would be proud of it. It's crazy. So look, that's why I said at the start, I want Carrick out. Getting Carrick out means you might get Wilcox out, you might get Barada out, you might ultimately get the owners out. Carrick just protects them, whether he realises it or not. And we're back to square one again. We beat Roma.

50:40Everything's fine.

50:45Club's a mess. Still will be a mess. If we beat Villa 4-0, it will still be a mess. Look, what I will say is that I was always a reluctant carry-couter anyway. I do respect him. I do like him, but he's definitely protecting the Glazers. I don't care. I say it to his face. I said it to Rooney the other day. You need to understand what I'm saying. and is there a way back? Some people have said, is there a way that you could be Carrick in? Yes, because I never wanted to be Carrick out. I can't believe it. I'm always late. I can't believe I was Carrick out in October. He's only been fucking full-time manager for three months.

51:21So I never would have predicted that. I remember saying in August, there's no way I'll be Carrick out this season. I was Carrick out before fucking Halloween. So of course there's a way back. I'm not stubborn, but the pathway for me being Carrick in would be beating Villa, not getting beat at Liverpool, winning against Sporting, winning against Brentford, winning against Newcastle. And let's just set that five game target because, you know, so let's beat Villa. Let's not get beat by Liverpool. Let's beat Brentford. Let's beat Sporting. Let's beat Newcastle. Now, four wins in a draw in the next five games.

52:02and I'll look at it and go, how did we play? Were we lucky? Right, let's reassess. And that's what I would say. I'm more than happy to reassess it after the Newcastle game on the 2nd of December because we'll have played five games then. And if we've won four and we've drawn at Anfield, I'll look at it. But we can't just keep flipping from one result to another. We've been sustainably shit since the start of this season. Hull, Fulham, Leeds, Como, Bournemouth, Chelsea, City. We've been sustainably shit for three months. I'm not changing my mind because of 45 minutes against the Roma team that crazily played open.

52:50Would you keep him if we got Emery in the summer? No, no, Ben. No, I'm not doing any of this interim till the summer bollocks again because it always ends up with the interim being the full-time coach. If you want somebody, you go and get them now. This is professional sport. If you want a certain manager, you get them now. That's what you do. I'm not doing an interim. Thank you, Ben. Patrick Lynch says, Emery is the managerial equivalent of what Anderson and Hall were as transfer targets. Spin to try and show the board know what they're doing, says Patrick. David says, I agree with you, Patrick.

53:24David says, under-investing in the squad and coaching is the old Trafford mistake all over again. postponing investment always costs far more later. Thank you, David. Game reminded me of Leon, says Peter Manday. No, I think Leon was a different... I mean, I added a bottle of red wine at that, but no, I don't think so. I mean, I don't think... I thought Roma were shit in the second half, if I'm being honest. I thought they were very good in the first half and shit in the second half. And we were shit in the first half and very good in the second half. If Carrick does well, isn't that a good... But didn't Roma blow a 3-1 lead at home to Real Madrid as well, doing the same thing?

54:03I'm pretty sure I watched the highlights of that because I thought it looked good. And Roma were killing Real Madrid, and they ended up losing, I think, 4-3. Let me just have a look. Roma versus Real Madrid. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, look at this. they were 3-1 up in the 60th minute against Real Madrid and they lost 4-3

54:35I think they've got a form for it, haven't they? If Carrick does well isn't that a good thing? The rot is from the board owners, lack of investment pressure must be on Glinios says Big Z but there won't be any pressure if Carrick wins Wilcox wins Barada wins Ineos win Glazers win there's only going to be pressure the pressure on Wilcox and co has been because we've been shit when we win there is no pressure the pressure on the Glazers after the Super League got killed by them signing players in the summer like as soon as we buy somebody decent or win a game the pressure disappears Lee Berman says if we get Nagelsmann do you think it's curtains for Wilcox?

55:21Lee I'm actually very worried that Favell is going to go to Bayern and then you can say bye-bye to Nagelsmann. The sad thing is we could be weaker in the international break, not stronger. If Nagelsmann, if Favell goes in the international break to Bayern, I think that board's weaker. Casemiro scored nine in the Premier League last season, eight headers. We lost that capability and didn't replace it. Other issues we knew was coming. I think you're absolutely spot on, Big Z. And I think that when you look at it, last night, Roma were shit on corners. And look at how dominant Harry Maguire was. But in the Premier League, set pieces are a big thing.

56:04And when you've only got Maguire, people cover him off. Like Maguire on set pieces in the Premier League has been bad this season. But you saw last night, Roma were bad at set pieces and Maguire was like nearly scoring from every corner. So last season, we had two. Mark, I want to change at the top as you do, but wanted character secretly lose so that happens is not the way. The players are playing for him, says James. Sorry, I want to change at the top as much as you do, but wanted character secretly lose so that happens is not the way. So I think it's sorry. What you're basically saying is you didn't want character lose yesterday.

56:38The players are playing for him, says James. Yeah, I think the players are playing for him. Yeah. which in some ways is quite scary because they are actually playing for him and we're still in the bottom three. Why are you so negative about Carrick? Our saviour turned it around. Wilcox is a genius, says Nick. Thank you. Watch the first goal again. Maguire had more fault than Deleuze. He was marking nobody and left heaven alone versus two, says BRT. Yeah, I mean, I think there is always blame elsewhere. I don't think Maguire did very well on the clearance for the penalty as well. But Deleuze is woefully out of position.

57:13they exploit the space you can blame Maguire but look at the goal the player is in Deleuze's position and nobody is there OK thank you everybody for watching this morning I really enjoyed the show nice bit of therapy somebody said are you doing your career mode later yeah 5 o 'clock another quick career mode tonight at 5 o 'clock I enjoyed it last night and what we've got a Carabao Cup final in season 1 second leg against Fannabache in a qualifier we're in February now aren't we still in the FA Cup and we're fifth in the league so yeah be about five o 'clock but tonight's show's at eight o 'clock I'm not doing Champions League tonight so eight o 'clock United stand as per usual have a great day everybody I must admit you know what I did enjoy today dropped seven off at school went to the shops saw a few people and being able to walk around with your head high whatever's going on at the club fundamentally I never think it's a bad thing when Man United win.

58:15And, you know, there are rival fans out there and it was quite nice to be able to walk around and go, you know, we won. Fundamentally, that's always a nice thing. Thanks for watching. Have a great day, everyone. Stay safe and I'll speak to you on the next one.