Carrick AND Wilcox GONE By Christmas!

0:01Whoever said good things come to those who wait, never shop Black Friday early at Lowe's. Right now, get up to 50 % off select major appliances. Plus, get free delivery, free haul-away, and free basic installation and parts when you spend$896 or more on select major appliances. Shop Black Friday early in-store and online now at Lowe's. Valid through 12-2 while supplies last. Selection varies by location. See associate at Lowe's.com for details. Let's be honest. If you have a cat, you've probably wondered what your house smells like before guests walk in. Thankfully, Arm & Hammer Cat Litter helps take that worry off your plate.

0:39Because not all litters are the same. Arm & Hammer Hardball Cat Litter gives you long-lasting odor control, plus strong clumps that make scooping quick and easy with low dust, too. It's a 5-in-1 litter made for busy people, helping your home stay fresher every day so you can feel confident opening the door for family and friends. Candles? Air fresheners? Not needed here. Odor control is Arm & Hammer Cat Litter's job, not yours. Be guest ready with Arm & Hammer Hardball Cat Litter. Find it now at Walmart or Amazon. Confidence. It's listening to your gut. It's moving forward even when the path ahead is unclear.

1:15For nearly 160 years, Pacific Life has helped people keep their promises, building confidence for generations. Whether you're confident in your financial future or just beginning to envision it, We're here to help. Ask a financial professional how. Pacific Life, the power of a promise. Pacific Life Insurance Company, Omaha, Nebraska and in New York. Pacific Life and Annuity, Phoenix, Arizona.

1:47Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge with your latest Manchester United news as we get some compelling and interesting information coming out from Fabrizio Romano about big changes at Manchester United. And we're not just talking about the spin transfer leaks. We've seen Andy Mitton talking this morning about a striker in January. I would say in relation to that, who actually gives a toss, who really gives a toss about that now? What we're talking about is big changes in 2027 on the director's board, the manager. So I think that coupled with what we've seen over the last couple of weeks, There is definitely seems to be some sort of leak, some sort of expectation that Man United will and are willing to make big changes, whether it be in the next few weeks or certainly in 2027.

2:34I feel that if you look at the look, this is what Fabrizio basically said. He said, I expect direct quote Fabrizio Romano. I expect many changes at Man United in 2027, to be honest. Let's see what's going to happen with the coach. Then let's see what's going to happen with the directors because they are under scrutiny at United with the poor season that they are having. So look, we might not get the immediacy that some of us want and demand, but I certainly think in the long term, this is only going to end one way. You don't come back from this. You just don't. And the reason Man United are where they are is plentiful.

3:09We have an incompetent board, incompetent owners, incompetent coaches, incompetent players. when you've got all four of those, you don't come back. If you've got one of those, you probably don't come back. But we ain't coming back from this. Anybody who says, oh, we can come back from this. I just think, what are you basing this on? Fairy dust. We're not coming back from this. There's too many components that traject failure, because combined, it will lead to failure. The question is, will we make these changes quick or not. And I think there is this belief in the club that they can trundle on till the end of the season and then make changes.

3:51Because let's not forget, Carrick's only got 18 months left on his contract. So he's gone. You would never give him a new contract at the moment. And you would never give him a new contract in the summer because you'd be terrified of what's happened. So Carrick is basically an interim anyway. I've not heard any intelligent analysis of this in the mainstream, but he's gone. He has 18 months left on his contract. No one's going to do a new contract with him because, and look, I'll break it down in a very nice way. Carrick gets his fifth or fourth. Would you give him a new contract? The only way you're going to give him a new contract is if you're playing good football and you look like you can win the title.

4:29Well, that's not going to happen in the next seven months. It's just never going to happen. So whatever happens, Carrick's gone. And I think when Carrick goes, Wilcox goes. So whether it's next week, Christmas, end of the season. I think United are planning big changes and I think that's why Fabrizio Romano is talking about it. And these big changes, in my opinion, need to happen sooner rather than later. But they do need to happen. Absolutely. And the reason the league table's there, by the way, is I think that, look, amongst all this conversation about bounce backs and training well, and the first half against Roma was good, and we believe that Carrick's the guy to get us back.

5:06I just wanted to break it down. I was speaking to Joe Hart about this on the Overlap Daily show yesterday, which hopefully many of you have watched. And I was saying, look, when you were playing for Man City or when Sir Alex Ferguson was good at Man United, you'd sometimes look at a seven-point gap and go, we can turn that around. Look at the month of November. There's five wins in a row there. People will drop points. We can turn that seven-point gap into a three-point gap. And then in December, we can do the same. The league's not like that anymore. Nobody can look at a run of fixtures and go, that's five wins in a row.

5:36maybe Arsenal, maybe Man City, but nobody else can. Certainly not us. So I was looking at this. This is how bad it gets. We are seven points behind Brentford. Seven points behind Brentford. We are eight points behind Liverpool. We are nine points behind Everton. We are nine points behind Chelsea. We are 12 points behind Brighton. We're not closing those gaps. We're simply not going to close those gaps. They're too big. Like a seven point gap in this league is really a 10 point gap. It's just, it's too competitive. So we need to remember this league table because when you have 45 minutes that are good against Roma and people start pontificating about comebacks and the season starts here, that league is ridiculously competitive and our team is not good enough.

6:26We are not closing seven, eight, nine point gaps. We're just not. So if the club is awake and looking at big changes in 2027, then that's a good thing. That has to be a good thing. I want it to happen sooner rather than later. But I will repeat what has been said before. And we spoke about this a lot last night. In the past, United with Ten Hag, we spoke to a lot of managers. We didn't sack him and then we did. United are not at that stage. As of this morning, We're not at that stage with any managers. There has been preliminary talks with agents and representatives, but we've not even sat down and actually spoken with a manager to the point of, do you want this job?

7:12So anybody that's thinking Carrick gets sacked on Monday, we are ridiculously slow. I'll give you this lesson, which most of you know anyway. In May, Manchester United wanted to give Michael Carrick a permanent contract. and Michael Carrick wanted to sign that contract and it got briefed that it was going to get announced on the Friday. It didn't get announced for another week. And the reason it didn't get announced for another week is because there was issues and negotiations in that contract that were ridiculous. Like, you know, both sides were always going to do the deal, but United are so particular and it's got to go through so many people, it took a week to score an open goal, basically.

7:59Carrick was desperate to sign that contract and Man United wanted him. They basically briefed that it was going to happen on the Friday. It didn't happen until the following Friday. And that's when you've got everybody who wants to do everything. So United aren't even in talks with a manager and people think we're going to sack Carrick on Monday and get another manager in. I just don't see it. I don't, not absolutely does need to happen because it's going to happen anyway at some point, But I really do think that they're thinking about the summer. I really do think that they're thinking, well, Carrick's basically an interim anyway, because we'll never give him a new contract.

8:36I think the plan at United is to get to the end of the season and then make a change. I think that's what they want to do. I think they view Carrick as an interim. And as many of you've said before, if Michael Carrick hasn't figured out he's being used, he'd have to be a complete and utter idiot. I think they see him as an interim to get them through to the end of the season and then they're going to make the big changes but I just see this coming crashing down I was speaking to somebody yesterday actually about the mood at Manchester United in fact we were talking about it

9:14did we speak about it on the members section with Rooney? I'm pretty sure you've probably seen it if you're in the members section We did a bonus bit of content yesterday with Rooney before he goes in the jungle talking about the Villa game, the Carrick situation, the players. Yeah, it was. If you've seen it on the member section, check it out. If you're not a member, join. Loads of extra content on there. Brilliant video with Rooney yesterday talking about the Villa game and stuff. But there was a section in there where I basically said to Wayne, I'm, you know, and this is relevant to what I'm talking about.

9:49can Carrick steer the ship till the summer and then leave, which I think is what everybody wants to happen. And I wouldn't mind that happening. Look, if Emery can be got in the summer or a top manager can be get in the summer, I'd rather get them in the summer than get them now. But I don't believe Carrick can steer the ship and get us Champions League football, whereas I think a new manager now could. But I said to Wayne, I said, and there's a lot more to it, and there's a few hard-hitting things that he said about contracts, et cetera. But basically I said to him, we're living in a world now where Michael Carrick can coach a battering at home to Bournemouth and get applauded off and sung about.

10:25And the minute he goes down the tunnel, the players get instantly booed. So when we lose, we blame the players now as a fan base and a media. But when we win, even though in that second half, you could see it was the players responding to the crowd, it's Carrick who gets the praise. So Carrick's in a great situation because if Man United win a game, he gets the praise. But if Man United lose a game, he doesn't get the praise. And I said to Wayne, it seems to me that the players are getting the blame, but these players got him the job in May and it's the same players. So what are we saying? These players were playing for him until May and then they suddenly went, oh no, I'm not playing for him anymore.

11:04It's ridiculous. It's the same players. And Wayne sort of started it off and he said, well, look, the motivations from January to May in that dressing room may not exist anymore. And pure speculation, but he was saying things like everyone was going to get a 25 % pay rise if they got in the Champions League. As we know, some people were playing for moves, Casemiro. Some people were playing to go to the World Cup, Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire. There is no World Cup. There is no pay rise. There is nobody looking for moves at the moment. So that motivation has disappeared. and then I threw in as well even on a very basic level Carrick's trying to get a job his coaches are trying to get a job maybe they're more motivated than they are when they've actually got the comfy chair and they've got the job also those players play for third place Carrick plays for third place the summer comes along people are talking about breaking transfer records and rebuilding the team you come out of the summer Casemiro's gone there is no striker there is no left back and your midfield rebuild is about as flimsy as a as a Poppadom house in a in a Gale Force wind so you know what I mean like last season if you're a Man United player in that dressing room you're going for third place if you get third place you go again and you try and get in a title race motivated motivated motivated whereas reality is you get third place, you come back for the start of the season, the club shows no motivation.

12:48On top of that, rightly or wrongly, the club have leaked that Martinez is not getting a new contract, that it's Harry Maguire's last year, that Luke Shaw's last year. So there's a lot of things that could demotivate those players. But they were playing for Carrick and now they're not. And I don't think it's that they're not playing for Carrick. I personally think that, look, I'm not the biggest fan of these players, but their motivation, I think people are getting it wrong. I see people calling up in our comments and they're going, these players aren't playing for Carrick. They're not playing for Carrick.

13:22You know, boo, boo, boo. I think their motivation is not Michael Carrick. I think their motivation has been flawed by Wilcox, Barada, the owners. Where were the reinforcements in the summer? Why are you speaking publicly about dismantling a team, but you want us to perform? I think the general attitude of that football, think about how you feel as a fan. Do you feel motivated? Then put yourself in the player's shoes. I think sometimes it's difficult to get motivated, but what you saw on Wednesday is just pure adrenaline feeding off a crowd that's cheering you on. And as much as people see that as a positive, I see it as a piss take.

14:04Not on the part of the fans, not on part of the players, But clearly, when the crowd's up like that, the players react to it. And we saw it on Wednesday night. Who is it that stops the crowd from being up? The owners, the board. They don't give us any incentive to be ambitious and excited. So we don't get up and the players don't respond. But 20 years ago, the Old Trafford crowd would be up from minute one. The players would respond and we were very successful. So the blame goes to the top. The blame goes to the very, very top. Just a few questions there. Do you think Carrick goes on Monday, Mark?

14:43Look, I'll believe it when I see it. You know, when I see the shirt being held up by the new manager, I'll believe it that we've sacked Carrick. When I see a competent director of football communicating with the fans and talking about the plan and Wilcox has been sacked, I'll believe it when I see it. However, I do sit here and go, I've seen a couple of articles before last night, and then I've seen what Romano said, and it feels like credible people are being briefed about big changes in 2027. The Athletic have mentioned it, the BBC have mentioned it, Fabrizio Romano have mentioned it, and basically the culmination of their stories is Wilcox, Carrick, Barada are on thin ice, and it's being looked at.

15:28Like I say, I believe it when they fall through the ice, But at the moment, I'll take that they're on thin ice. Where I'll draw the line is I don't trust the board. I don't trust the owners. So they probably won't do anything about it. And secondly, I don't think they're about to do it quick enough. You know, the problem is if you go for a walk today and you tread on a nail and tomorrow you've got a fever and you look at that nail, you look at the wound and it's red all around it and hot. and you ring somebody up and they say, you need to go to A &E and you go, I'll leave it a week. In a week's time, you might end up going to A &E, but you might lose your leg from gangrene and infection.

16:11And I think that's the best analogy I can use. I think United will eventually deal with the issue, but every day they don't, the infection and disease gets worse. so I'm absolutely convinced that Wilcox and Carrick will end up going

16:35but will it happen quick enough? I don't think so I think they are clinging on for dear life the owners to make this work and they're probably being told by people to stick with it but the people who are telling them that haven't got a bloody clue and I think that look I think the title is Sacked by Christmas For me, that's too late. We are a quarter of the way through this season already. After tomorrow, we're more than a quarter because you don't play 40 games, you play 38 and it's game week 10 tomorrow. So I think it's already too late. Personally, I think you should have gone after Bournemouth.

17:08because after Bournemouth, it was Como-Chelsea. And I think we could have maybe done a little bit better. So, or maybe, no, it was Bournemouth. No, Bournemouth was after Como, wasn't it? It was then Chelsea-Roma. But look, I think the change should have happened by now. I don't think anything's going to happen in the international break unless Villa give us an absolute... See, I don't think we're going to lose to Villa, but even if we do lose to Villa, that rumour is... The problem is, is that the way to work, you head through this is not to put yourself in the shoes of making the decision because you'd probably just have somebody lined up and you'd do what needs to be done on Monday the problem with United is they're going into this Villa game and they have nothing planned if it goes wrong so if we lose there's nothing planned I wouldn't be surprised if we lose or draw to Villa if you get radio silence for a week and a half and everyone pisses off on holiday they've done that before they did it with Oli we expected Oli to go in the international break everything went quiet then we came back and he got sacked after a couple more losses so yeah is it ridiculous when you see Coventry have three wins and we've only got one when will they wake up and do something about it well I think this I'll probably get voted down but I actually think that should stay there for every stream we do because I think people forget that you know they talk about comebacks against Roma and the club's in a good place and the team's training well.

18:39And if you look back at the first half, all this bollocks. The only thing that matters is that because that doesn't lie. Maybe it lies after game week two, game week three, but after game week nine, that doesn't lie. It's an embarrassment. It's an absolute embarrassment. Billy Bob says, season is lost. Time to get games called off and smash the megastore and hotel football. It's the only thing the owners respond to. Yeah, I mean, Billy, I understand your frustration, but that's basically rioting. which we cannot condone obviously there is the protests tomorrow going on um green and gold if you're going um balloons the lot i mean look there's almost like a dick measuring competition going on about what will and won't work um and look i like and i like and respect terry and terry um i think terry's on the show next week actually a couple of eight o 'clock shows but which would be great um but we don't we don't agree on a lot of things um and terry is very big on um emptying the stadium whereas i think it's preposterous to get people to walk out i think it's preposterous to empty empty a stadium because if you've been to old trafford and i had and i don't go as much as i wish i as i would like because of doing stuff like this but i used to go quite regularly and even when i went last season taking seb to his first game brentford right when what we're doing What are you doing here today?

20:01Filming promo for a new podcast, me and Mark Oldbridge. What's the podcast called, Wayne? I don't know. What is it called? Oh, that was good. Wayne as a player, exactly what Man United was all about. But I'm sure we're not going to agree on everything. What would you think about Mark if you were a current player? Probably think he's a... We'll be wrapped into all the games. Do you do your own painting in your house? All the big stories. Just have my socks on and my underpants. Good. Hopefully no sackings. Yeah, hopefully. He's gone first on both of them. I think we will have to beat. That's why I was saying you can go first.

20:33I did. On the volley. United. Oh, perfect. On the pitch, off the pitch. I've got a little goal in my garden. I'd have saved that, to be honest. Stick to United. It's coming to him. It's not what you think it is like. And anybody who goes to Old Trafford will know this. There is a percentage of people who are going to watch the football. who, and I think that's who Terry and everybody thinks they're talking to. They think 75 ,000 people are just United fans who consume the United stand or whatever else and listen to podcasts and are massively engaged in not knocking Old Trafford down and the Glazers and Ineos are terrible.

21:12And if I walk out and we all walk out together, it's a massive message. The problem is when you actually go to a game, there's a huge amount of fans who are there for different reasons. They support Man United, but they don't necessarily support it to the level that they give a shit about the Glazers or Ineos. They're there to watch a game of football and they've paid for it and they spent a lot of money on it. And you're just not going to empty Old Trafford. It's not going to happen. You're not going to get people walking out either. But what you can do, you've got to try and do something that's simple and easy.

21:51and I think everybody turning up with green and gold tomorrow, I mean, I wish everybody could turn up with a green and gold tennis ball and throw it on the pitch. I mean, it would be so impactful. The thing about marketing is, and I've been around it in this job and previous jobs, is you don't always have to get, you think of memes and stuff that go viral, you look at it and you go, I wish I'd thought of that because it's not necessarily the most complex of things. emptying a stadium is ridiculously complex if 50 of the stadium walked out which would be incredible it would still look quite full and you're never going to get 50 walking out so but if you get 50 of the crowd wearing green and gold it will look a lot like green and gold and that's what i mean like the simplest things can be the most impactive um but you have got to hurt them in the pocket ultimately.

22:45And I think if we could all press a button to get tomorrow's game cancelled, we'd do it because the Glazers and Sir Jim Radcliffe would shit themselves. But doing that is very, very difficult. It's really very difficult.

23:02But look, unless you've got a viable option, it's very, very difficult anyway. What do you think about us buying a striker in January? I'm coming to that next. We can't wait for New Year. We need damage control now, says Ross. We won Ipswich and they're four points ahead of us, says Andres. Well, Hull are four points ahead of us, aren't they? Hull, four points ahead of us. Coventry, two points ahead of us. And Ipswich, four points ahead of us. I mean, I was looking at this. Even if we win tomorrow, we can't go any higher than 15th. After 10 games, we can't go out. A win tomorrow and people will be talking about, we're back.

23:40We beat Roma and Villa. No, we're not back. We're 15th. We're 15th. We've got 10 points from 30. We're not back. And our next game is Anfield. So let me just break this down for you, okay? We win tomorrow. You'll get a load of people slagging us off if we carry it out for two weeks. We then go to Anfield and lose. We'll have 10 points. If we beat Villa tomorrow, 10 points from 30, yeah? 15th place. We go to Anfield and lose. 10 points from 33. We'll probably be in the relegation zone. We probably will. So this is what I mean about tomorrow. There's a lot of, there's a lot of, look, I'm not going to name the journalist, but I read the article and it was like, if Carrick wins tomorrow against Villa, it almost buys him the rest of the season.

24:32And I was like, oh my God, who's telling them this? Is their brain telling this or is it a brief? If he beats Villa tomorrow, it almost gives him till the end of the season. I thought if he wins tomorrow, he goes to 10 on that league next to me, which puts him in 15th. And then if we go to Anfield and lose, all those teams below us might get points and push us back down again. So there's nothing significant about Villa tomorrow that saves our season. It just kicks the ball down the road. It's still a shit start to the season, even if we beat Villa. and what's our next few games? I mean, it ain't easy.

25:12You could almost forgive a manager looking at it and going, no, thank you. Yeah, so it's Liverpool away. It's Sporting away. It's Brentford at home. It's Newcastle away. It's Coventry at home. It's Leipzig at home. It's Palace away. And it's Arsenal away. So Arsenal away. Newcastle away. Liverpool away. Sporting away. four of our next eight games are very difficult. And then the home games, oh, right, you should beat Coventry. OK, you go, girl. Leipzig at home, oh, we should beat them. Yeah, you go, girl. Brentford at home, wouldn't guarantee that. Palace away is the only game I look at before Christmas and go, if we don't get three points, there we're shit.

26:00They want time to make decisions, so they want to wait until the summer. But after the summer just gone, I have very little belief if they make the right choices, even with time, says Patrick. Well, this is what I'm talking about. Very, very well-timed super chat, Patrick, because Romano mentioned after the changes in 27, potentially with the coach and the directors. He also said, I expect Man United to do something in terms of new strikers. So Man United will be busy in January. In general, they have to because the situation, apart from the second half against Roma, has been very poor so far.

26:31So Romano was saying yesterday that Man United moving for a striker in January is a big possibility. Now, Andy Mitton has said this morning that United are likely to go into the market for a striker, most likely on loan in the January transfer window. Well, I tell you what, you know what you can do with your loan striker in January? You can fuck off. I mean, what is it about Manchester United? We may as well put fucking the History Channel on or UK Gold because it's just repeats. What are we talking about? A loan striker in January? I mean, I can't believe that we sacked a Portuguese manager, got an interim as an ex-player and then gave him the job.

27:15Considering we've already done that and it didn't work. Mourinho, Oli didn't work. Amorim, Carrick not working. So we love repeating past mistakes. So much so that in January we might sign a lone striker. I mean, we've never done that before, have we? We've never tried the lone striker route in January before, have we? So it might work. I mean, yes, we have tried it. Egalo, Weghorst. I mean, we should have bought a striker in the summer. We completely ignored it. And the sources in the club were saying, judge us at the end of the summer. Yeah, well, we did judge you. Don't worry, you're absolutely crap.

27:56A lone striker in January. I mean, fucking hell. I'm looking at what Liverpool are doing. I'm looking at what Chelsea are doing. Liverpool spent£100 million on Barcola. Chelsea spending£115 million on Morgan Rodgers. These clubs are not even going for the title and they're spending big money on quality. And we're looking for bloody loan deals in January. This is what I mean about reset. You can want the manager change. You can want the director of football change. but the people writing the checks at the top oh my god they've got to go I'm not defending Wilcox I'm not defending Carrick but oh my god the club's fourth from bottom we need some reinforcements in January let's go in the loan market let's look for a loan who in the championship would love a loan who's sat on the bench for a shit Premier League side that can change our season it's just and also as well who in this fan base gets excited about transfer news now.

28:59I think we all learned our lesson last year. Elliot Anderson for nine months. January, February, March. Elliot Anderson, Tonali, Chimini, oh, Alex Scott. Oh, Elliot Anderson again. Mateus Fernandes. What do we get? Belaber at the end of the window. So I don't even... You can't get excited about Man United transfer news because they've used up all of the bullshit. Like, they literally bullshitted us for nine months about the midfield rebuild. Nobody was using the names Tillemans, Belaber and Santos. And that was our midfield rebuild. The club were more than happy to pedal Tonali, Elliott Anderson and all these players.

29:40And we never did it. We never did it. So they can talk about, they can't use that anymore. I think a couple of years ago, bad start to the season, but we're going to spend in January, would probably work on a high percentage of the fan base. We all witnessed the summer. You spoke about a midfield rebuild. You spoke about strikers. You spoke about fullbacks. You even spoke about bloody centre-backs. You even spoke about breaking the British transfer record. You did fuck all. So anybody that gets excited about Man United transfer news is, well, there are words. Let's just say they're naive. Thank you, Patrick.

30:19it's everyone's individual choice booing Carrick might get rid of him sad to say says Canna Dave I mean I just don't believe I don't agree with cheering Carrick and then the minute he goes down the tunnel booing the players I think they are one and Carrick has said that himself and you treat them both the same so either cheer them all or boo them all but I do think that that has enabled Wilcox to push the keep Carrick story. But I don't blame the fans for cheering Carrick because I think it was very obvious to anybody with a brain that we all thought that that was Carrick's goodbye and it was a thank you.

31:01But the club have manipulated it into that means everybody wants Carrick to stay, which I've never met anybody that wants him to stay in the fan base beyond I'd like it to work. But I've never heard anybody say we need to keep him because if you look at the way we're playing and the team is building, you know, it will get better. I've heard people say, I want him to stay because I like him and I want it to work. But I've never heard anybody say, I want him to stay because I can see what he's trying to build. It's just pity and sympathy and hope. What are the chances Carrick stays regardless as United front?

31:33I think at this stage, I think it's highly likely. I don't think tomorrow's result is going to change their mind, which in a way I respect. I don't want to be a hypocrite. I said the other day, how can you look at one game and make your mind up i think that's ridiculous so i don't think you can go into villa and say if you win you stay and if you lose you're gone because it's just like being in the coliseum isn't it with the gladiators and you have a fight and it's like that do you live or die oh you live but tomorrow there's another one oh you die you know there needs to be a distinctive decision that everybody agrees with um on that board i feel that they might have made that decision already that no matter what happens tomorrow he stays now I don't agree with that but I'd rather that decision have been made before Villa because I think if you're using 90 minutes against the last nine months to make your mind up that's mad but the reason I think they're going to stick with him is because everybody's basically saying that we're not in advanced talks with any managers you can't sat Carrick and get a new manager in in two weeks if you've not had some conversations um

32:44so yeah I think we probably will keep him but I still think he could be gone by Christmas I don't see the significance of the Villa game I would have sacked him after Bournemouth I'd sack him after Villa but just because he survives after Villa I don't think there is a definitive are we safe now I think it's just going to roll on and on and on I think you know

33:09I can't think of an analogy to explain the situation he's in, but it's like being in a pool and the sides of the pool are, you know, four metres high. You can't climb out. You can keep kicking your legs, but I don't see a way out. so it's just about how long you can last I don't, this is just yeah, I think that's the best way I can describe it whether it's Villa, whether it's Christmas whether it's the end of the season there will be an end to this I think it's very important to go back to what I said sometimes you've got to just look at it, right? he's got 18 months left on his contract Nobody really goes into their last year of a contract.

34:00So Man United have got to make a decision on a new contract for Carrick by May, June. I can't see a scenario where you'd give him a new contract. Because we're definitely not going to be in a title race. Look at that. And we're probably going to really struggle to get fifth. And even if he got fifth, I wouldn't give him a new contract. So when you break it down, and this is where I think the mainstream really don't do themselves a service, they get so lost in the hyperbole of game to game to game. But there is an intelligent overview to go, well, whether he goes after Villa or Liverpool or Christmas or March or whatever, he will go because they've got to give him a new contract in the summer.

34:46You can't let a manager go into the final year. What scenario from this point to the end of the summer is going to get him a new contract? It's just not going to happen. Might scrape fifth, won't get him a new contract. And I don't think that's going to happen either. It's ridiculous, says Max. I've done that one about the Coventry. Season is lost, done that from Billy. Are you doing any games today, says Oliver? Yes, I am doing Forest against Man City at half past five today. Seb had a game this morning so that's why I was a little bit late today and we've got something on early afternoon so yeah, couldn't do lead Spurs and not really got any interest in Arsenal Hull so yeah, do Forest against City at half five don't forget to check out though I know a lot of you have watched it because I've seen the numbers in the back system Rooney, extra bonus content on the members section talking about the Villa game.

35:48Really, really good video. Exclusive for our badges in the chat, like Savage. Check that out on the member section. You can click and join, of course. And I'm going to give some memberships away tonight, actually, on the 8 o 'clock show. So I haven't done that for a few weeks. So we'll give away some memberships because there's loads of good stuff on there. And I think you'll really enjoy the Rooney one. Acid says, what happens if we don't qualify in the Champions League stages and fifth no longer becomes a place for the Champions League? we would then need to win 18 of 28 games as acid yeah it's not going to happen uh good morning everyone says razzler morning pal emily derry says why the hell would you waste the loan fee just buy someone says emily derry and gav says just look unless you're going to get someone like endrick on loan which is very very unlikely um because of the wages look i always look at emily like this what are the parameters we need a striker in january we can't afford one we need a loan striker in January, well, what's the wage parameters?

36:50Not very high. So you end up with not only a loan striker, but a cheap loan striker because you don't want to pay big wages anyway. So it's just, then you end up with cheap. And look at what that did for us in the summer. Just tuned in, Mark. Hope you're good. How long is Belaber out? Do you think Lacey should start or be better off as a super sub, says Gav? Well, Rooney had an interesting point about that on that video if you've not watched it. which you probably haven't because you're a member. But he said he could understand why Carrick wouldn't pick him and explained it. But for me, I would say start him because I'm very in tune with...

37:29That second half was about the fans and the players responding to it. That is such a rarity that... I think if you start someone like Lacey, you might get the fans up. So I would start Lacey. I said it once and I'll say it again. our manager in league position will mirror Spurs from last season we will be lucky to get 15th says Tenacious thank you very much for that appreciate you sorry my neck's really hurting let's have a quick look I'm sure there was something else I wanted to bring into the show where are you

38:14Oh, God, where is it?

38:43Select ladders are up to 50 % off. So go ahead. Get in there early. Shop Black Friday deals in-store or online now at Lowe's. Valid through 1118. While supplies last. Free tools vary based on battery kit purchase and location. Hey, it's Hannah Burner from Giggly Squad, and the holidays are around the corner, which means I'm officially entering my hostess Hannah era with Arm & Hammer hardball cat litter. You guys know I love cats and fostering, but when I'm hosting, I do not want my house smelling like cats. I want people focusing on my hosting skills. That's why I love Arm & Hammer Hardwell Cat Litter.

39:16It delivers long-lasting odor control and forms compact clumps that make cleanup easy, so that's one less thing I need to worry about when people come over. Be guest-ready with Arm & Hammer Cat Litter. Find it now at Walmart or Amazon. 98 of the top 100 U.S. accounting firms trust Bill to handle bill pay processes. Why? Because our tools are built on over a trillion dollars of secure payments. We're not just moving money. We're powering financial workflows for half a million customers. That's a level of expertise you just can't fake. Ready to talk with an expert? Visit bill.com slash proven to get started and grab a$150 gift card as a thank you.

39:56Terms and conditions apply. See offer page for details.

40:10Michael Carrick brought himself some breathing space with the win against Roma, but he might need another positive result against Villa.

40:33Strike alone.

40:48I'm sure there was something I wanted to bring in.

40:58Oh, JJ Gabriel signing for Real Madrid. Look, I think a few weeks ago, this was a big story. I think it will be twisted. a lot of people are already falling for it oh it's just greed it's all about money look the reality is Man United are fourth from bottom they're a billion pounds in debt they're about to knock Old Trafford down we haven't got a good enough coaching staff we haven't got a good enough board we haven't got good enough owners who do I believe between

41:35Gabriel and Man United when it comes to what went wrong. I don't think it's just about money. I think it's about a pathway to the first team. And I don't think Man United could offer that. And it is incredible that a 15-year-old can be in that position. But I'll say what I said a few weeks ago. If Sir Alex Ferguson was in charge and Man United were a team that was heading places, I think we'd be in a much better position to deal with these sort of things, whether he leaves or stays. I think we're more attractive to stay, but if he leaves, I think we can deal with it. The problem with this whole JJ Gabriel thing was that a lot of people gave him a lot of hype and there was a lot of hope based on him for the next few years.

42:14And that's been removed. So what you're left with is this, you know, insults and name and blame shaming and everything like that. But the reality is for the last two years, people have been talking about what a great player is going to be for our future. And now he's not there. I think this goes hand in hand with the mess that the football club is in. and no doubt there will be blame on JJ Gabriel's side but there will certainly be blame on Man United's side and to say that Man United are blameless I've heard people go, well Man United couldn't have done anything more well of course you bloody could do more look at the state of the football club it's not an ambitious, well-structured, stable environment for any player so I think it's just sad ultimately I'd rather he'd always been at Real Madrid and we'd never had him because if he goes on and has a good career you're going to look at it and go we dropped the ball there somewhere but look we've got to move on haven't we I hope he ends up being an amazing player I've always said you've got to remember he's under 16 and if you remember what you were like at 15 I'm sure you didn't have your head screwed on and were totally mature I hope he goes on and becomes a brilliant player because he could still play for England So, but I just, you're asking me to believe Man United over the player and his family.

43:38I don't believe anything. I don't trust Man United on anything. I don't trust them on anything. I think we're a morally bankrupt football club. I think we're a shell. And there's very few people in that football club that give a shit. I think they pretend they do but they don't realise who's paying their wages and the people who are paying their main wages have got no interest in Manchester United Football Club other than making money out of it

44:09thank you everybody for watching I will speak to you we've got an 8 o 'clock show tonight I am doing Forest against Man City on Overlap Daily don't forget to check out our Premier League preview with Joe Hart with me and him That was a very good show. I really enjoyed that. If you've got a bit of time. And if you are a member, make sure you check out the video with Rooney. Really good. Preview of the Villa game as well. Talking about, you know, quite a few things. And have a great day. Stay safe. Thank you very much for watching the show live. If you didn't, leave your comments and thank you to you as well.

44:43I'll speak to you on in a bit. Take care.

45:13We'll see you next time. eligible items by 2 p.m. Subject to weight and size restrictions and availability. Terms at lowes.com slash shipping terms. Car crashes injure over a million of us every year because we're human. For over a decade, Waymo's been building a driver that's safer. Statistically, 10 times safer in the cities we serve. Not because humans aren't enough, but because they're everything. Based on over a 94 % reduction in serious injury or worse crash rates, learn more at Waymo.com. Let's be honest. If you have a cat, you've probably wondered what your house smells like before guests walk in.

45:57Thankfully, Arm & Hammer Cat Litter helps take that worry off your plate because not all litters are the same. Arm & Hammer Hardball Cat Litter gives you long-lasting odor control, plus strong clumps that make scooping quick and easy with low dust too. It's a five-in-one litter made for busy people, helping your home stay fresher every day so you can feel confident opening the door for family and friends. Candles? Air fresheners? Not needed here. Odor control is Arm & Hammer Cat Litter's job, not yours. Be guest ready with Arm & Hammer Hardball Cat Litter. Find it now at Walmart or Amazon.