Ashley Cain: Ultraman World Record, Superman Shake & Jam Doughnuts

28:04Yeah. Because sometimes it's like, you know, with the nuts, nuts can help bypass a lot of things, the selenium in them and stuff. So having the right mix of nuts depending on your physiology is a great thing. It's an amazing day of eating. Yeah. It's hard core. It's disciplined. In your shake, you said hibisca or something? Haskobar. Haskobar. I don't even know what that is. Well, look at it. It's powder, but Haskobar, it's like a blueberry, but it's literally the most, what would you say? it's the most like densely rich berry that you can have and it's made into a powder and i got recommended that by um a sports a doctor sports doctor and you know a gb athlete so said it's like a superfood amazing and a lot of beetroot for the nitric oxide production yeah like i mean i had beetroot a while ago and then i came off it i stopped having it for a bit but then i thought i actually like the taste and it's actually really good for you so why am i not just continue to put it in there so good man it's a very good day of eating it is and but that's if i'm not naughty and i am the most problem is like i'm i'm naughty so i love chocolate like if you put a pack of like digestives like that in front of me now i just eat the whole pack my my issue used to be yeah it's like when i used to go on a school trip or away for football or away on an athletics meet or something to the nationals i used to see everybody on the way on the school on the way in football, like they'd open a packed lunch, yeah, and they'd have a little bit of this, then put it back, you know what I mean?

29:33Then have a little bit of this and put it back, yeah? And everyone used to be like, Ash, why aren't you eating? Because I made the mistake a couple of times. If my lid opens, the food is gone, then I've got nothing for the way back, yeah? So I used to have to save my food to the way back. So that's a bit of a problem for me. You just go for it. Yeah, I can be the same. If there's a big bag of crisps or something, the whole thing's gone. But ironically, the strange thing is you say that's a big meal start of the day. I'm really stranger and my body's really strange as well. So say, for example, I wanted to lose a stone this week.

30:08I'd lose a stone this week. If I wanted to put a stone on this week, I'd put a stone on this week. And it works the same as if I decide that I can eat more. So say, for example, I don't have to watch my weight. I will eat everything and I can eat so much. however if i'm like i need to watch my weight and i need to maintain a certain weight or a cup i don't need hardly anything now my doctor used to be like he said i can't believe how little you eat and then people used to go into my doctor after me like oh what's you know what's ash doing what's this and my doctor said ash could eat a fucking mars bar and just do what he's doing he's like that's that's but his dna is that mad wow well you are a specimen because you are officially one of one yeah the only man in the you in the world in the world to uh history of his history of the world it sounds bad doesn't it sound yeah in the history of the world yeah no that's definitely better um but you you you ran the length of great britain cycled the length of great britain and kayaked the length of great britain yeah summer's supposed to be the easy season so why are so many people quietly googling a therapist between summer Fridays.

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32:42I mean, firstly, insane. Can you give us a bit of a backstory of why? And then I want to get into the food and diet and what it did to your body. Well, I'll have to give you the proper backstory and I'll skim over it. So, you know, after losing my daughter, I had to write a eulogy. yeah and it's hard to know what to to write and to say about by far the most special and profound person you've ever met you know in this world and will ever meet and but I did and you know and to end that eulogy I said I'm going to take to the top of every mountain to the bottom of every valley along every road and across every ocean and so I decided to embark on all these adventures now the most difficult thing about one that's definitely not the most difficult thing I believed I had to embark on a journey.

33:33My journey in my daughter was between four hospital wars. And now as a God-fearing man, I believe she's in heaven. I believe she's watching down with me and she's with me. So I believed I needed to take her around the world. And in doing so, raise an incredible amount of awareness and life-changing and life-saving amounts of money for children with cancer. Because I don't believe any child should go through or a daughter went through and no parents should have to lose their child. So I want to make a massive difference with her legacy because of how much she changed my life. I want to, if I can spread a sprinkle of light onto others in comparison of what she did to me, the world is going to be an incredible place as a result of it.

34:11So, you know, I've done the thousand mile cycles, you know, I've done 109 mile run. I've done 125 mile kayak ultras, you know, I kayaked a thousand miles from Canada to Alaska through the Arctic Circle unsupported. in the world's toughest survival endurance race. You know, and in my head, I've done marathons and, you know, whatever you want to call it. And then - Marathon's a casual Sunday jog for you, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the training for this, I used to go to this place. It was like, I can't think what it's called now. But it's like a little circuit around the lake, you know, like people go to run and they'd be like, oh, how you doing, mate?

34:51You all right? You running today? Yeah, yeah. How many miles you doing? I'd go 40. They'd go, what? 40 minutes? Nah, 40K. Nah, I'm doing 40 miles. And then I go the next day, do 30. The next day, do 20. That was how mad the training was, yeah. But what happened was I got back from the Yukon and it was my daughter's birthday. So all my family were around my daughter's resting place. And I was like, it's fucking not enough. I'm not showing her enough how much I love her. I'm not raising enough money for these kids. I'm not, I need something more. We need something more, yeah? And I thought, what would take a long period of time and what would be truly fucking epic to stamp my little girl's name on?

35:35And then I said to my brother, I goes, mate, has anyone ever ran, circled and kited for the UK? And he went, nah, that's what I'm going to do. And everyone started laughing. And then from that moment, every single day until I completed it, I dreamt about it, I thought about it, and I worked towards it, and I did it. to the point where I had to slow down. It was the worst year at sea in summer for 15 years. There was no other boat on the ocean until midway up Scotland for about 800 miles, apart from us crazy fools. The fishing boats and the fishermen were saying, you lot are crazy. Factor six winds, crazy, cold, wet, dangerous conditions.

36:16And a lot of the time, mate, I nearly lost my life four or five times because I got thrown out of my boat and I couldn't get back in. and it was a fight for my life on those days and it genuinely was because there was no support boat because he had to get in or else he would have died as well how bad it was. But I just made that decision and I ended up finishing early. So I had to pull back my finish because I told everyone it's going to be on this date and so much so that towards the end, mate, I was that fit and I was that revitalized from the water that if I had time, I'd have turned around and done it again.

36:47That's how fit I felt. Wow. At that point, I'd probably had nearly 11 months off any form of alcohol. I'd been like very regimented in my training, probably, you know, five to four to seven hours a day and then actually completing the challenge. So I was just primed. And you can imagine I had a bit between my teeth. I was hungry. But then when I got before the finish line, I didn't even want to finish it. I said to my team, I was like, I don't even want to cross the line. It's a small paddle to cross the line. I don't even want to do it because I'm not doing it for the applause. I'm doing it because I'm sad.

37:26I'm doing it because I'm driven. I'm doing it because I love a little girl more than anything in the world. I don't want to go on a journey with that. And I've gone on that journey. The finishing army is nothing. And it's crazy. When I do something, and like I said, about, you know, I can either eat loads or not, I can put weight on. I'm that obsessive about what I want to do that I'd already crossed the line, probably 5 ,000 times to the point I was bored to start the challenge. I was bored to do the challenge before I'd even started it. And that's what I'm like. So if I envision that I need to put on weight, that's all I think about if I envision I need to lose weight.

38:04So everything just matches how my brain thinks and my brain thinks obsessively. And it's so powerful because there's nothing that I can conceive in my mind that I believe I can't do. Well, clearly. I mean you've got a world record of one of one and I mean what you've done is insane and it's just mind over matter at that stage and I'm not built for this endurance so you can see me I'm built for speed and power that's what God put me here for and I'm lugging this big rig up and down the UK smashing myself to pieces and what did you eat on that journey? I mean look there was a plan there was a plan but the ironic thing is a lot of places that you go through it's not like london where from six o 'clock in the morning 24 hours there is available places to eat also you know to buy food for 79 days is very difficult to store it and when you're going to like the rural places or when you're you know in the middle of the sea or you're on the coast or you're up in scotland like there is nowhere some days mate i was getting back and there was literally nowhere to eat you know hotels weren't serving food if you were camping there was no way to get anything some days i was getting back from like a 10 hour paddling day and having nothing to eat well do you know what i mean but then other days you know we might be lucky enough to stumble across a little hilton and have a fillet state i think the main thing for me at that point was i knew that all i had to do was keep on moving so whatever i could have that would be calorific and now i could physically take swallowing yeah i'd have if it was 10 donuts i'd eat 10 donuts if it was a mcdonald's i'd have a mcdonald's sometimes yeah it's really ironic but it's not an iron man so it's not like you've got to be that specific you're 79 days it was sometimes i just needed to comfort eat yeah whatever i wanted as long as it was calories um there's a psychological battle in there that a good mcdonald's might help at some point right but not physically but mentally for sure and it wasn't good I mean my my coach that came to surprise me and he was livid with how I was eating was he yeah but I said you ain't been you're not the one that's been doing this for fucking 60 days already are you you know I mean I'm gonna have to eat what I want and a lot of the time it's cool though because do you know like one of my best experiences yeah is being out at sea yeah and you're in you're in like a kayak like this yeah so what you do is just swing your legs over the side so you got balance because when you sit in the side don't matter the weight if you balance your legs in the water and just like eating a banana yeah or like passing my paddle partner a banana fruit with the paddles or eating my little pasta pot I'm just sitting in the sea yeah and it was it could be the skies could be gray the rain could be hammering down the waves are going nice the winds blowing and you just like sitting eating a pasta pot you know what I mean having a chocolate bar you know like a little galaxy caramel or something it's never tasted so good and it's never tasted is so good yeah then the next minute you could be throwing it all up because the because the waves are rolling but there's some like really like beautiful things and it was like the yukon yeah the yukon that i did from canada to alaska all i had then was packet food it was just like the dry food and we just had to put boiling water in it at the start of the day which you have to get in the water at night filter your water boil it on a stove put it inside the zip up and put it down there and then whenever you get a chance to have a mouthful have a mouthful you have to paddle for 18 hours solid a day so you can't sit and have food you know you don't pull over in the boat all the time just have a mouthful now and again have a mouthful probably get a sachet coffee rip it just put it in dry anything that you could do no time for water with your coffee yeah wow but i start appreciating food so much when i do these things it's profound.

42:00Like I can't explain how nice it is and how good it is. And one of the biggest things is when I've had to like eat super clean and I've had to lose a lot of weight for something and I've had to eat super clean and I've had to strip to the bones, that gave me the biggest appreciation for food I could ever have because I noticed something. Because I'm quite in tune with my body and because sometimes I go to extremes, I noticed that when I was on this diet, it's probably about three months, yeah, and I was super clean. I was training super hard. I remember eating a fizzy Haribo sweet and literally I put it in my mouth and I could feel it.

42:38I could literally feel it go around my body. Because I noticed that when I have sugar, everything inflames. My hands, my knees, my ankles. If I eat sweets, it blocks up my nose, my sinuses. Because before that period of time, before I was training really hard and doing it, I was eating that much of it. not being that intuitive in my body. I didn't even notice. And I started understanding what foods do to our body by taking them out, being extremely the other way, and then gradually putting them back in and seeing how they're affecting me. I mean, it's the number one thing we should all do is just listen to our body, right?

43:10Because it'll tell you. And the thing, I was at dinner last night and I was quite good because I was doing the podcast today and I only had alcohol-free beer. I had like four. And I woke up this morning and I felt like I was drinking. like not alcohol that alcohol didn't affect me but i guess the amount of wheat and yeast and whatever i was like i could feel it because i don't normally put that much in my body so would that be what it is yeah yeah sometimes i've had that like where i feel like i've you know i feel like i've been doing it and it's just it could be something else but the same ingredient that's just like plowing into your body yeah i mean i don't know the exact numbers but like i'm guessing if you're having four or five alcohol-free beers you're consuming a lot of wheat and yeast and whatever else which typically unless you're eating bread all day you don't do yeah so your body's just going what is all this and then it's obviously the lack of being a bit late at home you know adjusting your circadian rhythm which also dampens it a little bit but i really felt it like you say i get the sinuses as well my nose goes and i wake up all stuffed up and i'm like what's going on have you got any advice for like you know blocked you know blocked sinuses in my throat because this is gonna sound so minging yes i'm sorry for you know i mean sorry but if i'm running or i'm training or even sometimes i'm constantly like i'm constantly doing this yeah all the time and if i have certain things like i know that if i have like a monster or something like that yeah i would like cough up a clump of stuff like a monster energy yeah but it's not the monster it's like it's like it releases but i'm very like congested yeah like all the time could that could that be how to food oh for sure i mean i'm not an expert in it i'll maybe we have to go find a doctor that is because i've got the same issue when i eat bad or do bad stuff that i get very phlegmy as well and it could be different triggers for different people right something's not reacting well in your body and your you know the the mucus reaction from the body is a way of clearing out the sinuses essentially typically you know it's got a function it's trying to clear out the virus that's in your nostrils when you've got a cold that's what it does so there is a function there so something is triggering that immune reaction in your body and it could be food i don't know what food it'll probably be different for you than it is me yeah ibs and all that as well the really like weird thing about me and i noticed is because because of because of my mindset yeah so like say for example i'm running thousand miles and i've got stress fractures in my shins I don't think about the stress fractures in my shins I think about the miles I've got to run to get where I need to go and that's not anything I can have big injuries, I can have anything and I can just push through I can have two, three hours sleep I just push through because I don't register the lack of something I just register what I've got to do if I drink a bottle of whiskey the night before then cycle the Alps the next day that's what I do sometimes it comes to food and intolerances my doctor done this It was a mad epigenetics test and he's picking out loads of things.

46:13And he's like, fucking hell. He's like, you're red for this, red for this, red for this, red for this, red for this. He's like, you eat all of that and you eat those and this. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, man. Stomach kills, man. And like this happens and this happens. And he's like, so why don't you stop? And I'm like, I just don't, nothing affects me. It probably does affect me enough. But because I just see past it, like I don't really go. He's a performance doctor. I don't really go to a normal doctor. I don't really get anything checked up. It's just mad. It's just me like feeling things out over the years mainly.

46:44And you just mind over matter. Doesn't matter. It's just weird that it's stupid. But like maybe I should pay more attention because that's what I mean. When I was forced to do something because it was like, yo, you have to be this way for this. That's when I understood. Yeah. It wasn't like understanding that this was this big and this is her and then this is burned up and this is aching and my muscles and joints are inflamed. I just took it on the chest. Well, that's just the pain you've got to endure to get your thing done. Yeah. That's the way you view it. Interesting. Well, we've got to get into some family life, daily motivation, you know, not doing ultramans.

47:20What's the day-to-day like? So let's get into the good, the bad, and the healthy of your day-to-day. So give us something that you're proud of that you do with your family, food-wise. Make sure that we eat around the table. on the weekends I try and invite as many family to my house as possible whether that's a Saturday you know evening where we would eat and drink or whether that's a Sunday afternoon where we simply get all the family together and the kids to eat and drink that is like probably that is categorically the most important time of my life when it gets to a weekend and we just blast out an invite to see how many family members we can get around to cook for and to have a drink with and just mainly because the kids get the kids together, get the kids bonding.

48:04So like food is mega with that. And if you've got Caribbean family, you just can't put on shit food. It's not bad. Well, you would just get lit up for it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I've got other family members that are happy with like the sausage party, sausage rolls and this. It's like, yo, if you're going to do it, you could be the only person that's willing to accommodate everyone around your house. And if the food shit people are still moaning about it. So yeah. So you've got to do something well. So the good for me is, you know, after my loss, having two beautiful young boys that have gave me a vision of happiness again.

48:40And the fact that I can don't have to just beat myself up all the time that I can invite family around. We can cook really good food, maybe as a family as well. I like cooking together and all share that moment and that experience together. Amazing. I think it's such a good example to set. and I was watching something the other day about childhood psychology where actually little boys they just want to be needed and useful right and most of the time we dismiss them and go I'm too busy I'm cooking leave me alone but actually the fact that you said you involve them in that process I'd swear to life hat to anyone with your I mean you know I've got a seven month old who's still too young to be involved but my 17 month old yeah it got to the point where like he just like I don't know what he was doing he just like always need to be doing something and then so I realized I started to realize that my little boy was actually really helpful like really he wanted to open the cupboards he wanted to do this yeah but he was just chaotic with it you know I mean and then everything I do now it's like the windows are open I'm like hey Elias you all right do you want to shut the windows for daddy yeah he will get up on the side he's smiling he's shut the windows hey Elias can you get that out the cupboard for daddy he's doing this and not things like you think stirring a pot yeah you think oh god you can't let him do that i'm like look careful hold his hand and let him stir the pot i if i'm with him i let him do everything for me and he is fucking great super chilled super happy super not a problem because he feels he is capable he feels like he's helping he's doing it with daddy like he's a big boy like so i just try and get him involved in everything and i realized i don't have to put on anything for him he's just happy being around and doing and and he and he's so much more competent and content now than he ever was that's that's such a hack been a hack for me also within another within a year's time i've probably got a servant so it's great when he could do it with myself without yeah yeah i mean we all need some help as parents right it ain't easy but no i i noticed that and i started to do it with jacks a little bit and i saw instantly the kind of just reaction to him feeling needed like even it was just taking out the trash but i gave him a little box to carry out so it's just a thing for kids which i think that's awesome but what about the bad we're all human we all have bad things we do health-wise are we talking about food or anything you consume could be either i guess i guess the bad i guess if i was going to talk real bad i mean i've explained that i like chocolate you know and i can the amount i can eat you know i'm partial to on McDonald's as well.

51:12But I'd say the bad for me is the alcohol. Because the problem is, it's like when I'm not in camp or when I'm not training for something, I see it as a window to like, it could be like a binge window where I'm not going out partying, but I could be drinking at home. I could be drinking when I'm going away for meetings, whatever. And I think the worst part about it for me is bro, you know, you see some people and they'll have like two glasses of wine and a tipsy. I could drink four and then actively do something the next day or like I say, cycle the Alps or drink a bottle of whiskey. So even though I don't feel it on the night and I'm not throwing up, I think the hard effect that that can have on my body the next day where you're like, oh, it's the grind.

51:57Yeah. So I think the bad is, if I'm just going to be open and transparent, it's alcohol. Don't drink every day. But still, now I know the benefits and how I feel not drinking at all for nine months for 10 months 11 months i'm like really i can't wait till next month i start camp and i just cut it out of my life amazing well you start to notice the effects and you're listening to your body and then you know i don't think there's anything wrong with having a bit of alcohol here and there i mean my gran lived till she was 96 and she would have a glass of wine at lunch every day and a glass of wine at 6 p.m every day um and she was great but it was never binge drinking and it was always with real food right roast dinners for lunch every day but that's kind of fine though but i've noticed i think i think we all know this now i'm a kind of all-on-nothing kind of guy yeah there's probably there's no there's no glass of wine the same as there's no like you know let's just do a marathon it's kind of like let's have the bottle well it's not because i want to either it's like once you start you know then then that's where it goes for me so yeah so the bad definitely is for me the alcohol but it's something that is not out of control it's something that when i decide next month this is the day it'll be gone and then we'll wait again till next year i think you have everything in control that's the point you can stop and start or do whatever my manager will probably tell you different very good okay so finally one healthy thing one really cool hack or swap or thing that you've done recently that you're like this really works for my health this is probably going to be a little bit different but i think it's equally as important for people to understand so if you know me in my life and you know my life story there's been a lot of ups and downs and not like like this i'm talking about mount everest to Grand Canyon, you know, ups and downs.

53:54None more than what's happened in the last four years. Now, I found myself a lot of my life, you know, in the pits. I found myself, you know, feeling down, feeling depressed, you know, feeling embarrassed, feeling ashamed, you know. And even sometimes after completing something that no one has ever completed in the history of the world, as soon as I cross that finish line, I'll plummet. I feel like even the next day that I'm worthless, that I haven't achieved anything, that I haven't got nothing ahead of me. But over the years, there is one clear and apparent and 100 % success rate factor to my life.

54:36The moment I go outside and go for a run or go to the gym and do a session and eat my first healthy meal, it's like I never left. The healthy eating combined with that first run or that first training session is something that reverses all of those negative feelings instantly for me. Amazing. It's just literally like jumping back on the horse after you fall off. And that's been the best thing. I could tell you a healthy hack or a healthy meal. I think my message to people just has to be, it's no matter how you're feeling or what you're going through or how much of a lack of future you believe you had or how much trauma you're holding in your body, try and get your first run.

55:23Try and get your first healthy meal and then just see how you feel afterwards. And if you feel like that afterwards, you start building a bank of training and healthy meals. and the more you do it, the more you have. The more self-confidence, the more self-worth, the more self-belief, the more worthy you feel of being here and more understanding of what you're capable of. Build discipline, build resilience, then you build everything else you will need around that and your life will change. Amazing. I couldn't agree more, but I think food is emotion, right? Food is emotional and people tend to go the other way when they're feeling down in the dumps.

56:00They're like, right, I'm going to order that takeaway eat the tub of ice cream, whatever it is. And then that has a kind of continuing downward spiral. Whereas what you're saying is actually it's that healthy meal. It's that run that gives you the - But it's that silly, I do the same thing. I'll stop training, I'll start drinking, I'll start eating healthy. But what I'm trying to say is I've had like years and years and years of the proof to myself of how profound it is. So it's just like, it's just intercepting. For me, it's like a game. it's like yeah maybe it's gonna be today maybe it's gonna be maybe it's gonna be six o 'clock maybe it's gonna be tomorrow tomorrow's day and i just fucking intercept it yeah with with that very simple thing which every single human being in the world can do and then it starts gradually getting better it does it's and it's it's great that you've got that positive association and in the morning have ginger have turmeric have pepper have lemon have green tea and have honey and eat some watermelon and that gets you going so awesome um let's move on they weren't that quick were they told you oh we haven't oh we're not there yet we're on to off your trolley where i want to actually get a view of what's in your shopping basket so i asked you to bring in a receipt and we want to see what's in your basket is it the good is it the bad is it the healthy you really caught me off guard there because i didn't even have enough i know i know you do this you do you ask for this like just a day before so you don't have a chance to go and prepare a really cool healthy shop in there that's the idea we want the real health the real talk okay so we have what looks like a tesco shop you're a tesco man very nice let's have a look what's in here you've got some sweet chili chicken escalopes do you know what how much sugars in sweet chili how many sugar how much sugar yeah no no idea more than half over sweet chili sauce is often sugar really tastes amazing i know but it kind of sucks you need to move to hot sauce they're not for me they're not for you no no i don't always buy plain you always buy plain good man good man you got some chicken mints iceberg lettuce greek yogurt you got the kids their little yeos no added sugar yogurt very good kids yogurt yeah that's what i needed how with there yeah yeah okay sweet the kids yogurt i mean i always go plain if you can keep it plain because the the fruit puree because they say no added sugar but then it's just fruit puree okay which is all the fruit without the fiber so then it's kind of sugar so plain anyway better to go plain and add a banana so we're talking about like the greeds plain greek yeah yeah yeah just my kids just eat Greek yogurt plain easy I know they're not like single serve but actually some of the brands now do like the little yogurt pouches that are just plain but I think because it's like then we do usually have plain but then sometimes when you're going out it's just a pot but yeah I know you're right I get it I mean kids that they've got high metabolism they just run it off they're you know running around all day so they'll be fine with it but um that's always one of the things that catches people out but then you've got cheese you've got your dettol your beef tomatoes you got your bagels in there dude do you eat bagels usually they get thrown away but it it depends like this is gonna sound stupid but like jason will tell you like like i just told you but london for four days had to get back had to come then for three days had to get back that's i had to come sometimes it's like wow if i i could literally probably have like 20 minutes in my house between things.

59:46And then if it's a bag, that's why the bagels are there just in case they're whacked in the toaster. Something gets put on them and then I'm back out. I mean, listen, at the end of the day, sometimes needs must. And the amount you train, it's not gonna kill you, but there's not really a good bagel in the supermarket. So even not with the protein ones though, there they are. Oh, no, no, no, no. I mean, they say they're protein, but they're like, instead of bread normally has about 10 % protein in it anyway. and then the protein ones are 12 % protein. So it's not really going to do anything for your protein.

1:00:20And there's a ton of additives in it to help it bind and gums and other stuff. So I would always go clean bread, just sourdough is the way to go. Or someone should just make a sourdough bagel. I mean, I got told that sourdough is one of the ultimate superfoods. In terms of performance, I got told that sourdough is a performance food. Really? And it's incredible for performance. I've never heard that. Yeah, ultra performance. these were performance nutritionists they were saying sourdough bread's elite sourdough bread is elite i mean it is the best bread and you can get it everywhere now so there's no excuse so yeah there's no there's no excuse slap on the wrist but you got your ginger in here and your watermelon yeah so you're true to your word ginger and watermelon every day you got your beetroots like it you got your caesar dressing not mine not yours no whose is it i have olive oil Do you?

1:01:11Yeah, I like olive oil, I like balsamic, and I like salt and pepper on my salad. Honestly, the best salad dressing is just like lemon juice, olive oil, salt, pepper, and then maybe a little bit of white wine vinegar. That's all you need. Yeah, I like balsamic. You and balsamic, though. Yeah. Very good, very good. It's a good shop, man. I like it. There's real food in it. It's, you know, vegetables, meats, proteins. It's got Philadelphia in there. Philadelphia. That'd be it. also for the bagels if they get eaten. I've got a lot of hate for hating on Philadelphia in my time, believe it or not, because it's cheaper and better for you to buy own label cream cheese because Philadelphia typically put gums in it, which gums can be fine, but you mentioned you had IBS a little bit or gut troubles.

1:02:00Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, I've definitely got gut troubles, yeah. Gut troubles, they can be hard to break down. Obviously, they can be inflammatory to the gut. An example is, if I like, say, this has been the malice thing. I mean, and I don't really focus on aesthetic in terms of training for my body. But if I have like, my waist is literally like that. Yeah. It's not a big waist considering my shoulders. Yeah. But if I have the wrong food, it's like my stomach, it's like my stomach's like this. It's just protruding all the time. It's so gassy. Yeah. And it can be so uncomfortable and painful.

1:02:31So yeah, it's some form of gut trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you should try and cut the gums out because it should help. And it's a simple, it's cheaper and it's healthier. But that's a good shot, man. Can you give me some advice on something, yeah? Yeah, go on. I need my calculator back a second, yeah. Okay. So this is, man, let me just try and work it out, yeah. I like a fillet steak, yeah. So I say, yo, we'll have a fillet steak every day for dinner, a fillet steak and a salad. It could be nice, yeah. Yeah. But then I used to be like, yeah, I just want to get it. I just want to get like the fresh one.

1:03:03So then I'll just jump in and get a fillet steak. Like I'll go every day to get it. or like, you know, get two lots for two days, yeah? And about the finest fillet estate, it's probably about 11.50 a fillet, yeah? But I wasn't clocking. So I was just going, beep. Because I spoke to my doctor and is it fillet estate good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beep, beep, beep, beep, like this, yeah? And it was only like, I was thinking one day, I was like, that is pretty expensive. Then I worked it out and I was spending nearly 700 pound a month on fillet estate. Two a day. What's 654 quid? Yeah. And then I was like, nah, not doing this anymore.

1:03:38That was just, for me, that was from two fillet steaks every day for the month. Wow. And then, so then I was trying to get, like, find the best replacement. There's no real steak like a fillet steak. And even all the good steaks are expensive. Yeah. So then that's what, like, I've, you know, I'll go between, like, chicken and fishes and minces now. But then, and then, if we treat it in ourself, you know, fillet steak's nice. You can't beat the taste of a fillet steak, right? and I get it. But from a nutritional standpoint, mince meat has a broader nutritional profile than fillet steak. So if you want to save your money but still eat your meat, buy a pack of mince meat, make it into burgers and away you go.

1:04:19It takes five minutes. You can make them really simply. And that's what I do a lot of the time because I mean, damn, steak is expensive. Well, that was the king, didn't it? It's like minces. And the thing is about, I can eat chicken every day because it's important. Fillet steak is probably the only thing that I just think relentlessly I could eat for this day three for all three meals every day of the week and not get bored so I'll just go between that like mince mince chicken mince turkey mince beef you know my salmons my cods you're the kind of guy that could do this have you ever tried beef heart beef heart no but sounds good right so if you go to a butcher beef heart is cheaper than beef mince so it's about the cheapest beef you can buy in a butcher about eight pound a kilo something like that from my local butcher but they're massive you know the heart itself is probably a two kilo really slab of meat right and you have to slice it very thinly and fry it very quickly and it's the only offal that actually tastes like a steak and it's super lean so it's a bit closer to your fillet than like a ribeye, I would say, once you cut away all the fat and butcher it properly.

1:05:32And it's like the national ditch of Peru. I think it's called anchichos or something where they basically fry up little thin strips of beef heart on a barbecue really quick with like chili sauce and it's phenomenal. That's epic. So can you help me out with something? What I'm trying to, so something like that, would nutritionally, would that be as good as a steak? Because then I'm - Better. Sick, beef heart. We write them down on the shopping list. Better and cheaper. And also another thing. So number one, why are these organs? It's like, you know, you can have like the liver and stuff. Why is it cheaper?

1:06:10But why do most people say they're better? So why are more people not buying them? Why is it not more expensive? Well, I mean, it's typically how a butcher used to work, right? Like back in the day, the butcher would get a cow and it would butcher it. And that's what was in the butcher for that week. So every part of the animal would get used and sold and whatever. Now, obviously, we mass produce and you can choose whatever you want, wherever you want. So in the olden days, it was always used. It was steak and kidney pie. It was, you know, liver. And it was used in cooking and the bone marrow and the broths we would make to make the soups and whatever.

1:06:47I'm actually just starting to start bone broth now because I heard that's very good. It's phenomenal. And I guess the, I mean, I don't know the exact biology behind it, but essentially these are the most fundamental parts of the animal, right? Your organs work harder, arguably, maybe not your muscles, but most people's muscles, you know, they work harder. So that's where a lot of, and they've got really important jobs to do in the body. So that's where a lot of the nutrition ends up to make them function and do their job properly. so they're the most nutrient dense thing so if you you know everyone talks about their kale smoothie but if you want the most nutrient dense food in the supermarket it's liver per you know gram of weight it's the most nutrient dense it's full of vitamins minerals so wait a minute right as a media help me out what meat do i need on my next shot because i'm looking to be doing some madness next year and i want the best foods possible and so what meat should i be should i be buying because you know i'm not really fussy like can you go madder than you've already done huh can you go madder than you've already done yeah we wouldn't we're trying to go there yeah okay fine but what so we're just eating liver heart liver heart i mean organs are tough because liver has a very strong taste that a lot of people don't like and that's basically why people have moved away from it over time because this fillet steak is easier to consume and taste better to get liver right you know the way you get a bit of the kind of irony blood taste out liver is you have to soak it in milk for 24 hours before so there's preparation involved and then the way you cook it if you overcook it it can go quite tough and you know a bit funny you've got to cook it perfectly and not to you know it's got to be almost a little bit rare in the middle to get it nice and smooth and so it takes work the best way to cook it i find is you know just fry it with some onions mushrooms and then chuck a load of hot sauce on it and that really masks the taste in a good way and it's hard i don't eat it all the time but if i'm really on a health kick i mean we'll make bone broth at the weekend make a big batch freeze it into ice cubes and then just chuck them in every meal so you're getting all the nutrition out of the bones um and then yeah livers occasionally um but my kids will eat liver you know they like as a kid you know what you know right so they'll leak liver that's what i'm saying they don't know anything else they don't know anything else what we would what we would say yeah and the irony is now that they're the offcuts that people don't want so they're dirt cheap in the supermarket so it's brilliant heart and liver sweet heart and liver if you get on that and bone broth as well they're the three like killers but you can try anything and everything i mean obviously you've got the likes of the liver king and these guys on social who are eating the testicles and doing all this stuff and taking it to the nth degree but i don't think you need to go that far but if there's nice ways you can integrate in your food so my local butcher does a carnivore burger which is a burger blended up with beef heart liver bone marrow and normal muscle meat and i eat that every week and i give it to my kids and they don't even know that it's not a normal burger because it masks the taste in a really good good way more butter don't do you need to start speak to your butcher he'll hook you up because they just put it through a you know a meat grinder and then it all goes into one and it's it's phenomenal it's a really good way to do it without having to worry about the preparation or the yeah so that's let's and we need to check back in in a year's time to see if they're your awful has uh made a difference to your madness it's really i mean like i say your page become noticed to me because it was getting passed around the family like oh to the kids mainly you you know, and you want to make the best decisions for your kids.

1:10:35But I had a bit of a change in my life, especially because it's I want to be as good as possible for as long as possible. And that's not just about training or stretching or recovery. Like the biggest part of that is food and what you put in your body. So like from the tea in the morning to having, you know, my watermelon, to all the decisions I make, I try and make them not only so I can perform, but so they're healthy for me. So I can be as good as I can be for as long as possible. It can be the daddy that runs around with his kids and whatever. But it's so crucial, isn't it? So that's why I was interested to know that because I just think everybody should pay attention to what they're consuming because I don't really feel like they truly understand what profound impact it can have on you.

1:11:14Well, we don't, right? We're all sleepwalking into just the supermarket buying what we buy. And it's got to the point where now in the UK, 57 % to 60 % of our diet is ultra-processed. And when you look at kids, there was one scary stat I came across the other day that essentially 82 % of a kid's lunchbox, this was a study done by Imperial College London, 82 % of the average kid's lunchbox is ultra processed. You know, it's the white bread ham sandwich, ultra processed ham with a little chocolate treat, maybe a little ultra processed yogurt with added sugar. And it's just crazy because, yeah, when you start to feed your body that, this is when we get all the problems, right?

1:12:02And when your body starts to break down and you know, when you put your body to the extreme, just eating that one Haribo, you can feel what it does to your body. you know so i that's why i'm here right that's what i want to do is hopefully wake everyone up and show that there's a different way and how good you can feel by doing it slightly differently without having to you know give up your guilty pleasures or whatever you know we all still have a life to there's evidence in you know there's evidence of you helping us before i even came in today and even just today i've got some advice that's how me so you're definitely doing that keep it up well thanks man let's get into the quick fire round you ready for some fast questions yeah you ready for some slow answers we need one to three words can you do it yo you never got told this before you came did you let's try it let's see what's your favourite guilty pleasure takeaway McDonald's McDonald's still yeah madness okay you said it don't have to be good it can be guilty no it's fine yeah it's guilty it's all good favorite quick energy boost when you're training uh flapjack very good if I'm running and I'm sinking flapjack if I've got to run get something quick flapjack I always differ flapjack if it's got to be available anywhere I'm talking about cross the board flapjack great great shout give me one of the most bizarre things you've seen someone eat on a training camp?

1:13:38I mean I've seen a lot of shit I'll tell you the most bizarre thing is the actual thing is not bizarre I was paddling the ocean and I was paddling my support paddler was the world record holder for circumnavigating great Britain and we were like we were miles and miles in we were miles and miles out and then the next minute I just see him sitting in the boat he's doing this and I'm like where'd you get the apple from he's like let's find it in the water there no way he just picked an apple out of the water and started eating it and we'd be we were like six hours into a panel miles and miles couldn't even see sure and he just found found this apple in the sea and just started eating it i mean it's probably clean with all the salt water washing yeah fair play okay good stuff one food you cannot stand cucumber what courgette aubergine the most plain simple vegetables that most kids love yeah them phallus shaped foods i don't know there's this there's something about there's something about it that i and it's not even like i don't like the taste yeah it's i don't one day i just decided i didn't like cucumber and i eat everything then it was courgette and aubergine if it was like a bolognese with like courgette in it couldn't eat like i just for some reason i just can't eat those foods texture smell i've got no idea because i don't even think i've tried them okay like i just i just can't i just don't want them all right well we'll keep the cucumber away but i always used to say i was a kid i always used to when i used to go to a shop with my nana yeah i'd have like you know the ham batches you could get from the shop yeah and i always used to say i want the ham batch with the salad on yeah my nancy would like yeah but you take the salad off and I'm like yeah I know but it tastes better when it's had the salad on first so I always used to get to get me the ham batch for the salad on so I could take the salad off then eat it with just the ham interesting man yeah it had a bit of freshness to it a bit of seasoning nice okay and then give us your favorite health hack at the moment that you've learned and you're now living by a favorite health hack I mean there's so many I feel like watermelon is 100 % the superfood of superfoods you know in terms of hydration in terms of you know the vitamins that are within that um I could live every day off watermelon probably wouldn't end up living for a while you would live for long if you were gonna have pick a food to live off for as long as possible it probably would be watermelon if you couldn't drink as well well yeah it's hydrating 100 % um I I started to understand like the importance of having those four nuts in my life you know because of the selenium um and also you know how I start my day with that you know ginger and turmeric tea like I think I used to be a massive coffee drinker so I used to get up in the mornings and like the first thing I'd do is have a three spoon cup of coffee and just be jittering because I felt like I needed that energy I don't even drink coffee anymore after that drink it's like it gives me slow continued boost of energy I feel like my stomach and my guts better and I feel like I'm giving myself the right things that my body needs from the moment I wake up in the morning amazing I mean that's honestly the thing coffee is a crutch for a lot of people yeah but if you feel your body in the right way and you sleep properly yeah you don't need it and another massive one is guys down the camera it's like if you know you run cycling if you're running cycling and kayaking 3 000 miles donuts jam donuts with a lot of sugar on a great listen they'll get you there you know what I mean they're the health hack of the episode Ultraman health hack Jam Donuts Jam Donuts I mean listen you've got to do what you've got to do when you're doing that I have no idea what it's like so I can't comment but they are available everywhere right and you just had no choice so it makes sense in a lot of ways but Ash it's been an absolute pleasure thank you for coming honestly you're an inspiration to many you're doing so many wonderful things in the world and you know you're just an absolute beast of a man that can do whatever he wants and put his mind to it.

1:17:41So hopefully some people can take some stuff away and learn from you, man. Cheers, man. Listen, keep helping us feed ourselves and our kids. But no, I saw. Yeah, thank you. So until next time, guys, let's keep your trolley full of the good, less of the bad, and always plenty of the help.

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