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24:08But one way that some local police do step in, and step in all the time to help federal agents, is to manage crowds and protesters who show up around their operations. And in cities where local police are not cooperating with ICE and Border Patrol, one way that federal agents can get them to show up is by calling 911. So, for example, in Worcester, Massachusetts in May, ICE called repeatedly for police to come to Eureka Street to help him deal with the crowd when ICE arrested a woman as her teenage daughters watched.

25:02is it? About 25. 25 people surrounding one officer. After that, the scene gets pretty unruly. People in the crowd demand to see a warrant for the arrest. The Weiss does not need a warrant to arrest somebody. That's something lots of people don't know. Here's one last example of Weiss calling 911. In this case, doing something that kind of surprised me to hear so baldly there on a recording. In October, in Oxnard, California, ICE agents deliberately rammed their Jeep Cherokee into the side of a pickup truck of an activist who'd been following them. They T-boned the truck. There's video of this.

25:41And then the agents called 911 and lied about what happened. 911, what's your emergency? Hi, I'm with DHS ICE. I had a local individual crash. They backed into our vehicle. We're pursuing them right now. They're causing a major safety incident. We need locals here now because we're in an active pursuit with this vehicle. He backed into us, and he's fleeing from us, and he's causing an insane safety hazard to this entire area. ICE hasn't released the name of this agent. He hasn't talked to the press, so we can only guess at why he's saying what he's saying. Maybe he has no idea he was filmed ramming his Jeep into the pickup truck, and he's trying to create a record.

26:26Maybe he's just saying anything that he thinks would get the local police to come help him. The dispatcher does send police cars out to help, and they stop the pickup, ICE arrests the activist, his name is Leonardo Martinez, but the video of the agents ramming his truck goes viral, and he's released a few hours later.

26:50Over the eight months since ICE and Border Patrol began these operations around the country, their tactics have gotten more extreme, and the guardrails protecting people's rights have been crumbling. In their first operation in Los Angeles last summer, immigration agents began widespread racial profiling, stopping anybody speaking Spanish or speaking English with an accent. And then in September, the Supreme Court said they would allow that for now. So now they can stop anybody who looks or sounds foreign to them. Another change? DHS issued a new policy saying federal agents could enter somebody's home without a judge's order, which until now was considered unconstitutional.

27:28And as things ramped up over this fall, it was made clear to federal agents that if protesters or anybody else tried to slow them down, they could basically do whatever they wanted to them, whatever they saw fit, and they would not be punished. Here's Stephen Miller in October. To all ICE officers, you have federal immunity in the conduct of your duties. And anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop you or tries to obstruct you is committing a felony. You have immunity and no one, no city official, no state official, no illegal alien, no leftist agitator or domestic insurrectionist can prevent you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties.

28:09So where's that lead? I have one last call I want to play you. It's from Chicago. Chicago Fire Department, how can I help you? Can I get all medical attention? I'm 36th in California. I just been shot. Okay, 36th in California. We'll send this a drop right over for you. Oh, we're on your body where you're shot. Huh? We're on your body where you're shot. Huh? We're on your body where you're shot. On my arm and on my leg. I can't do my arm no more. This is Marimar Martinez, a U.S. citizen. She was driving around her neighborhood warning people that agents were coming and was shot October 4th, three months before Brene Good and Alex Preddy was shot and killed in Minneapolis.

28:53Help us all the way now. We'll be there shortly. You're outside on the corner there? I'm right here in the corner, in the corner, in the corner. Okay, help us all the way. We're going to be there shortly. We'll meet you there. Ma 'am, do you know who shot you? Do you have a... Oh, friend. Do you know who shot you, ma 'am? Do you have a friend right now? Hello, ma 'am. Do you know who shot you?

29:20Oh, my God. I feel like I'm a think.

29:27She's saying to somebody, do you have a bandana or something to stop this? Oh, fucking shit. Hello? Please, algo, prepararlo. Ma 'am, they don't have shot you. Ice agent, stop me. Who? Ice agent. The ice agent shot you? Yes. Marimar Martinez's case is eerily like Renee Goodes. She was in her car, and the government accused her of using her car as a deadly weapon and called her a domestic terrorist. News coverage has documented 13 people have been shot by immigration agents since these big city sweeps began, and most of them, they were shot in their cars. Also, most of them were accused by federal agents of not complying with orders or trying to escape or using their car as a weapon.

30:18two of the people shot in their cars died. The rest survived. This woman, Marimar Martinez, was one of the survivors. In her case, a Border Patrol officer, Charles Exum, said she rammed her SUV into his. She said it was the other way around. And once she got into court, on charges that she forcibly assaulted, impeded, and interfered with a federal law enforcement officer, once it got before a judge, the government decided to drop its case. Martinez's attorney had argued that body cam evidence clearly showed Exum swerving his vehicle to hit Martinez. Also, it was revealed that Charles Exum, the officer who shot Martinez, bragged about it in text to his friends, saying things like, I fired five rounds and she had seven holes.

31:07Put that in your book, boys. Before he jumped out of his car and shot her, he was recorded on body cam footage saying, Do something, bitch. In the end, his glee, his apparent pleasure in the violence of his own actions, turned into a problem for their case, and how a jury would see it. In a sense, that's what's happened to these operations nationally. In the last few weeks, their brutality, and the seeming incompetence of the people carrying them out, the reckless incompetence, is hard to avoid. It feels like everybody's been talking about it, whatever their politics. In Minnesota, the place that's been ground zero for so much of this lately, The police chief for West St.

31:50Paul, Brian Sturgeon, was asked this week by a resident at a city council meeting, what do we do if ICE agents break the law? Can you help us? In other words, the same question that came up in a few 911 calls. Looking strained and tired, Chief Sturgeon said, I don't know. I don't have answers for you on a lot of things. They have a different playbook. They have a playbook that I'm not trained in. our officers aren't trained in. They have a playbook that we disagree with on some aspects of. I'll be honest with you. He seemed truly lost about what he could possibly offer. His suggestion? Call 901.

32:31I want our citizens to know that if you see something or if, for instance, if they're stopped by a bus stop, call us. We will be there. If you are afraid because they're in the area or they're knocking on your neighbor's house, call us. No, if you do call 911, we will be there. I know it's not what you want to hear, but yeah, it's a difficult situation. I don't have answers for a lot of the stuff because I don't understand it either. President Trump, meanwhile, after first saying this past week that he will be de-escalating immigration enforcement, By the end of the week, the city is going to be full steam ahead.

33:14As of today, operations continue in cities around the country.

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35:20Today's program, What's Your Emergency? Stories of life in this new America where federal agents have swept out across American cities. In this half of our show, we're going to turn to people trying to outsmart, outrun, and outplay those forces, beginning now with Act 2. Act 2. There's no place like Home Depot. So there's certain spots around the country getting raided over and over again, like Home Depot parking lots, where day laborers gather looking for work. Back in May, Stephen Miller reportedly yelled at DHS leaders, why aren't you at Home Depot? And then shortly after that, they were in force.

35:58One of the very first to get hit in Los Angeles on the first day of the feds arriving in June was this one in Westlake, LA on Wilshire Boulevard. And then in August, this same Home Depot was the spot where DHS launched a brand new strategy that it called Operation Trojan Horse, where Border Patrol agents hid in the back of a Penske truck that pulled up into the parking lot as if it was just a regular moving truck looking to hire people. One workers ran to it to get jobs. The back opened. Agents jumped out in tactical vests with weapons. 16 people were taken that day. And five months later, this same Home Depot is still getting raided.

36:39And people are still showing up to find work every day. So, what's that like? Months and months of cat and mouse? Reporter Anianci D.S. Cortez wanted to find out. This Home Depot is not the easiest place to try to conduct a raid. Because at the edge of the parking lot is a kind of safe zone. An area the size of 10 parking spots. surrounded by a wrought iron fence. Inside there's a small building. There's a corrugated roof. Day laborers know when there's a raid, they can take shelter there. It's run by a non-profit called Carecen, set up years ago to make sure day laborers actually got paid by contractors hiring them.

37:21Everyone just calls it El Centro. I want to introduce you to two people who are here just about every day. Daniel Jimenez is a security guard. How did you find this job? Yeah, how'd you end up here? My friend's dad is the owner of the security company I'm hired through. Before that, I was a dishwasher at a wedding venue. Great, Dodge coming up to table one. I didn't know anything about what they did here. I literally just started working here. Daniel's 20 years old with slouchy younger brother vibes, constantly fidgeting with his vape and often dropping it. Go-to drink at Starbucks across the parking lot, mango dragon fruit refresher.

38:12When you see him at his post, just outside the gates of El Centro, he looks bored. That's a big contrast with the second person I want to introduce you to, Joshua Erazo, college grad, passionate about non-profit work and labor policy. That's from his LinkedIn page. His vibe. Soft-spoken community organizer. The person the day laborers turn to for everything. Job connections, immigration lawyers, coffee, toilet paper, Thanksgiving turkeys. People come to the center for all kinds of stuff. Even just to hang out and watch TV. Daniel stands outside the gate. Joshua's inside. That's why we have our door system and our locks and all that.

38:58But, you know, we have the cameras and I'm ready. Here's how it works. If there's a raid, workers try to rush inside. Daniel tries to shuttle people through the gate. When they're in, Joshua will lock the gate. It's private property, so federal agents can't enter without a warrant. And it can be pretty harrowing. You just hear people screaming, screaming, migra, migra. And then it almost feels like a stampede of people just running to where they can. Holy shit, you know, this is intense. One raid in particular stuck with both of them. This was back in August. Immigration agents rolled up with tear gas.

39:42People ran towards El Centro. Daniel was outside the gate. Joshua was inside. Daniel thinks he got 15 people in. But then one guy on the way in tripped. He tripped in the middle of the door, and he was just laying there with four ICE agents on him, and I couldn't close the door, and they were trying to get in, so I had to try to close it and not let them get in and not squish him. Wow. With that guy, it was like, do I save one more and possibly risk everyone, or do I just let them take him? Which is, I feel like I stuttered a little bit on that decision for like a half a second. Inside the fence, Joshua was struggling with the same question of when to lock the gate.

40:34The immigration agents have now grabbed the man's legs and his shirt, but his shoulder and arm are inside the gate, his hand reaching out for Joshua. Kind of reaching out for me to grab him. Outside the fence, two agents grabbed Daniel and pulled him away from the gate, leaving the door to Joshua alone. Joshua knew the guy stuck in the door, knew him well, said he was like a tío, an uncle, maybe 50 or 60, came around most days. When it's like, what do you do? I grab his hand and all I wanted to do was come on in and close the door and get out of here and yeah, we did it. Like, you were saved. But in the moment, I was thinking to myself, like, there's people here, there's people over there that the ICE officers can't even, like, see.

41:21There's the fact that, like, you know, we have our computers, which might have, like, information, you know. You have to think about all these things. Joshua makes a quick decision, locks the gate, with the man still outside. He was, like, at the door. He's a strong dude. Like, you know, he's like almost getting away from like five other grown men grabbing him. And he's like, Joshua, Joshua, like Joshua, like that with his hand out, kind of very like grunting because he's using his strength. And me having to be, I can't, like I'm sorry. And then him, like the other agents overpowering and like throwing him back out the door onto the sidewalk on the floor.

42:04The guy's shirt had almost been completely ripped off by the officers. Joshua watched from behind the locked door as they arrested him. He says the rest of the day he kept asking people, did I do the right thing? What would you have done? I just felt like shit. I felt like I failed him. I felt like to see someone taking in front of you with their hand out and you in essence being like, no, I'm not going to grab your hand, it kind of feels like like i let them down but then you think about like but if i had done that like they would have opened the door and they would have came in and then but then it's like fuck if it went the other way maybe 12 people had gotten taken you know i think i was asking others just to be like well what would you have done like would you have grabbed their hand would you not have grabbed their hand i guess trying to affirm that i made not the best decision but i made the decision that had like the least amount of negative consequences i have like this thing that keeps coming to mind when you're talking about this this is my producer lily sullivan have you ever heard of this like i think it's like an ethical situation like if a train is going down the tracks and you're the conductor and there's one person on one track or six people on the other who would you save yeah you lived that situation like it's actually that situation and you were the conductor Yeah, I would just blow up the train so it couldn't get to either one.

43:33The train being here ice, but no, I wouldn't inflict any violence on anybody. But my solution would be get rid of the, remove the train from the equation so that people can live.

43:52There's one more operation I want to tell you about that felt big for a different reason. This one happened just a few weeks ago, while I was in the Starbucks there, in the parking lot. A woman opened the door and shouted, Ice is here! Llegó ice! Baristas froze, panicked. Drinks started flying. I left my drink on the counter and rushed out. La migra! La migra está allá! El coche blanco! La migra! White Tahoe! The white Tahoe is ice! The white Taja running down Union Avenue is ice! I head for El Centro. I expected outside to be chaos. But what happened instead, it was creepily still. Oh my God, the whole front is empty.

44:42There's no more workers. Everyone just left. The SUVs circled. They're coming up. They're coming back. But then it's just the screeching of tires. As far as I can tell, no one gets taken from the parking lot. This round, the immigration agents just left. The central was locked down. Inside, some workers watched a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie. The hero, the one who sounded the alarm, the one who spotted ice. I honestly didn't see this coming. It was Daniel, the 20-year-old who stands outside the gate. He spotted them first. He was on high alert, pacing. For months now, he'd been memorizing license plates every day, from photos a community watch group had sent around.

45:33What'd you see? It was two Ford Expeditions. Would you like the plates? Sure. There was a California paper plate, BTC 1984, and then a Texas plate, WNJ 3422. too. He told me it started memorizing them because checking his phone was too slow. That other raid weighed on him the day he said he stuttered. He didn't want to stutter again. I think lots of people right now are finding themselves in roles they did not see coming, doing things they never imagined. One of the bosses here has a new nickname for Daniel. He calls him El Monstro de la Puerta, the monster of the door. Which is new. This didn't used to be a place that needed a monster at the door.

46:32Anianci Diaz-Cortez. Lily Sullivan produced that story.

46:43Act 3, Memo to the Future. Emergency suggests something immediate and short-term. That happens fast, runs on adrenaline, and then ends. Meeky Meek has this story about a guy who's been in an emergency mode for eight months now. Los Angeles was way ahead of Minnesota's Governor Tim Walz when he called on people to carry their phones on them at all times to record immigration raids. L.A.'s been making videos all along. The hard part is keeping track. Did you get that one, Izzy? in Glendo, Vine and Columbus. Yeah, it's a new one. Memo Torres and Izzy Ramirez are building an archive. Every day's raids, arrests, sightings of federal agents in Southern California.

47:29230 days and counting. Memo delivers a roundup at the end of every day. Just him speaking to the camera and playing video clips. It's called The Daily Memo. It's Monday, August 11th, and it's day 67 of the Ice Age of LA. It's Wednesday, October 15th, and it's day 133. Today's Thursday, November 20th, and it's day 168. A mother ran with her infant as her husband was taken by agents. We confirmed about 14 people kidnapped by mass criminal agents. I don't even live in Los Angeles. And yet, I've been watching the Daily Memo for months. It speaks to something about this moment. For a while now, almost every day has felt like, I can't believe this day happened.

48:11And also, what did happen exactly? The Daily Memo is trying to organize that chaos.

48:23Memo records the Daily Memo video at night. And then during the day, all day, almost every day for months now. He and Izzy are in the small room in LA, a work studio, sitting in front of computers while their phones are blowing up with texts and DMs and videos from around the city. Let me look over all the footage. Is the footage uploaded? Memos got two screens in front of him. When I was there, one screen was a map, zoomed in on Northeast Los Angeles, with pins where that day's raids had happened so far. Done with the doc, Izzy, or are you still updating? The other screen had a Google Doc with bullet points and links to videos that he and Izzy were making together.

49:00They cross-check videos, call witnesses, often community watch teams and rapid responders. They're weeding out fake or mislabeled videos. In the room, it's long silences and then quick shorthand as they try to gather, verify, and archive the same bundle of information for each incident and each day. Like, how many people taken? Yesterday was 14. Yeah. And the day before that, I had, so that's 28 plus 8, which is 36, 36 people. What time? Do you know what time the classic car wash was? The classic car wash? Not city car wash. And where. Here's this one saying the ice is in Inglewood. It is a total grind, both bonotinous and distressing.

49:51Memo is 6 '4", and he's got this big beard, perfect hair. The first time I met him, he was taking his first day off work in six months. You have, like, a threshold for yourself of being like, I will do this until X. I'll do this until I know I got to do something else. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't have too much time to think about all that, to be honest with you. I'm literally living in minute by minute to what's happening with ICE. People are like, oh, man, we don't want you to burn out. I'm like, I burn out every fucking day.

50:24You know? I go home and then I crash and then eat an edible, put on some TV, go and pass out and then wake up the next day and just be like, fuck, here we go again. yeah but like you know it's no different from like my landscaping and gardening days where it was just the same grind every single day yeah like what are the things that are useful from that life and just fucking shut up and work you know nothing about like that life the day labor life or the gardening life is pleasant nothing about it you're dealing with people that are you know passively a racist, hard-ass work. I mean, even like in the worst of weather, whether it be hot and dry or cold, freezing, and miserable, you still got to get out there and mow the lawns, trim the trees, trim the bushes, dig the dishes, get dirty, back pains, sores.

51:18And when you wake up the next day, doesn't matter how bad your body feels or how tired your mind is, you get right back up, 5.30, meet the crew, get your coffee and your donut and get right back to it. So all of that I brought with me. So it's like, yeah, so what? It was tough. Yesterday was tough. Today's going to be tough again. Tomorrow's going to be tough again. And that's the routine of life. Memo is 45 years old, Mexican-American. He's lived his whole life in L.A. He had his own landscaping business for 16 years. And then, almost a year ago, managed to turn the thing he did for fun into his job.

51:54He liked to photograph and post about the places he ate at on his lunch breaks. Taco trucks, little burrito hole in the walls, to caros he'd set up shop on sidewalks. His Instagram handle was El Trigon de Los Angeles, the glutton from Los Angeles. And a website called LA Taco hired him full-time. He did food reviews for them, like the giant taco hiding under the 10 freeway. But within a few months, federal agents showed up in the city, and Memo and the rest of the staff at LA Taco switched to covering raids and protests. There wasn't even a big discussion about it. It just made sense. The people they all regularly saw and talked to were now targets.

52:33So the whole organization changed overnight, from being a membership-based website with local food and culture stories with some news, to still being that, plus a home for the Daily Memo. One of the top Metro reporters for the LA Times says no one else in the city, including the LA Times, is doing this kind of detailed daily accounting. This record Memo started, this is it.

53:03Memo had a specific audience in mind when he started. The Daily Memo is in English, partly because he was trying to reach the younger, more online members of Latino families in L.A., the ones taking care of paperwork and bureaucracy, the kids of street vendors, gardeners, day laborers, the ones now trying to keep their parents safe. In the Daily Memo, he would tell the audience what parts of the city and surrounding areas are getting hit, what times of day. And when he saw patterns and trends emerging in the videos, he'd point them out. Every Daily Memo, by the way, starts out with a cartoon taco on the screen and the sound of a bite being taken out.

53:40Today is Thursday, November 6th, day 154 of the ice siege. Most of today's objections happen on the streets, including questioning a homeless man. They also raided a U-Haul on Geronimo Notoro, which seems to be a new target of theirs. Like, they just learned that they also have day laborers. Well, they took four people from that U-Haul. Another new favorite target, recycling centers. Memo and Izzy get videos and tips no one else does. Because they're not outsiders. They're trusted. Memo was one of the first to track what places were getting raided again and again. Car washes, school drop-off areas, Home Depots.

54:13He knows who they often targeted. Latinos in work clothes, a lot of older people, 50 plus. The Daily Memo tracked the evolution of immigration raids in L.A. From a hodgepodge of random agents, often in street clothes and with no visible identification, to a more consistent, militarized look. Green Border Patrol vests, sometimes helmets with rifles. Over time, there are more videos of agents opening fire on people. The first U.S. citizens arrested in Los Angeles were big stories. Now those are common in L.A. and elsewhere. When DHS accuses people of assaulting federal agents, the Daily Memo is a place lawyers go to to look for videos that may prove them wrong.

54:57And there's one more kind of video in the Daily Memo's archive. These eerie still lifes. A food cart with meat still sizzling on the grill, but no one's there. A row of buckets with bouquets in them. A lunch bag left in front of an apartment complex. The aftermath of someone being taken. Memo showed me a video of a woman stumbling on a gardening truck on a residential street. No one in it or nearby. The open truck bed is full of tools and gear. So we're in Rubidoux, right off of Mission Avenue and Crestmore. We got rakes, lawnmowers, blowers, shovels, ladders, pipes. So like in that instance, what are you doing?

55:39Well, we'll just report that we found an abandoned truck. A lot of people find out about this stuff through the videos. They'll comment, that was my cousin, that was my dad. Oh, my God, we were wondering where he was at. And they'll reach out through the DMs, and then I get to talk to them and be like, okay, I'm sorry. That's how we verified that I was actually an ICE agent. I learned two of my former employees when I had my Lansky company that were deported from some of these videos. I'm like, dude, these are people I've worked with for like 15 years. I know them really well. I know their families.

56:09At the end of the night, after Memo finished recording the Daily Memo, I sat next to him and pulled up some old black and white photos on my phone from the 1950s of Mexican men in work hats lined up to board planes and trains. This is when the government ran another big deportation campaign in California targeting Mexican immigrants and named it after a slur, Operation Wetback. And looking at them, one thing really stood out to Memo. There are no chains or shackles. Yeah. There's no military gear. There's no rifles. Look, it's like Barney Fife right there. Right? Barney Fife, the bumbling sheriff from The Andy Griffith Show.

56:49I wasn't there, and I won't say that the cruelness wasn't there, but you don't see the cruelness in the images then as you're seeing them now.

57:00How will these videos look in five years? Twenty years? Fifty? What are we going to think about them? Memo's got his mind on the future, too. He and Izzy are downloading all the videos so they can't disappear. At some point in some future America, maybe they'll lead to a reckoning.

57:30Meeky Meek is a producer on our show.

57:48I've got a feeling that I ain't felt before The world I knew and kind of loved Just walked right out the door Well, are you seeing this or is it just me? Yeah, are you seeing this or is it just me?

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