#573 - Morgan Wallen

28:37I've been listening to like old... I mostly only listen to music if I'm driving or if I'm working out. That's about the only time I listen to music, which I do those things a decent amount, you know? Kind of same, man. That's kind of when I do it. Yeah. Steven Wilson, I've been listening to. Yeah, he's good. He's really good. Great lyricist. Yeah, yeah. He's a special talent. That song about his, my father's son, Hardy played that one with him. God, that's good. Yeah, that guy is really, really good. Zach Top's voice is really amazing. I don't listen to country music a whole lot. I think I've always kind of been that way.

29:09I know who Zach Top is, and I do agree. He's very solid. Jesse Murph, Big X to the plug. You've heard that song? Uh-uh. No. They have a collab that's pretty dope. That's cool. Yeah, it's good. Me and Big X, we almost did a song. But I don't know. I didn't. I actually sent him a song, and he didn't finish it. So I don't know. That's on him. I guess I don't know what he was doing. He was in jail. Did he? I think so, yeah. For what? Not a long time. Not long enough. I went to jail, too, man. Hey, if you're behind bars, write a couple. Yeah, I know. No, it was kind of spur-of-the-moment thing, though.

29:51I got a song on my record called Miami. and um i haven't heard that one yet they sent me a couple of the songs did they yeah yeah miami it's like a it's a it's a keith whitley flip so it's like an old you know miami miami that song have you ever heard that miami miami what took you so long i don't you never call um oh no i've never seen it people talk about that's like that's one of his like bigger type songs i guess but we flipped it and turned it into more of like a it's a little more like rap style but um it's cool man i like it yeah it's cool it seemed like it could use a rapper on there um i didn't end up using a feature we end up just making a second verse but it's it's one of those songs where i could it wouldn't be surprising if we got like a remix and did that you know what i mean once it's out and all that stuff um what you you're famous like you guys had this whole tan like these different walkouts that you did over the years right really fun and thanks for letting me be part of the one in nashville yeah yeah um what would do you have a favorite one that kind of stood out to you and no judgment to any of them?

30:54I mean, Neyland Stadium is, you know, that's my home. That's where I grew up watching games. And Peyton put those pads on? Peyton, that one was really good. The baseball team one we did was really good too. But that Peyton one, that was, that was one of the, you know, it's hard to beat. Anything that happened those two nights at that stadium, I find myself just being like, yeah, that's, that's pretty, those, those are like the, you know, some of the best memories I've had. Yeah. Oh, yes. That's so sick. He's so ridiculous. He came out looking like he was actually about to go play with his facial expressions and stuff.

31:29Hey, I think half the boosters wanted to sign. Some boosters I think were trying to holler at him. Probably. Hey, man, you got another year of eligibility. We'll find something else. Yeah, man, that was special, dude. So cool. Yeah, but the walkouts, they're just, the energy that comes from those, it just could last you. I mean, maybe not the entire show, but it'll last you a while, you know, and then once you get out there and compound the energy that comes along with the actual show, it's just, it's a rush. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's that coach right there that we put that water on. Yeah, Hypel?

32:06Yeah. Oh, he's thugging. He's big thugging right there. He was, dude. What else has happened? So the first time you're going to play your new album will be at Sand In My Boots Fest? I'll play some of my album there. Okay. You know, the album comes out on the 16th. I'll play on the 18th. I'll play some of the new stuff. That's another thing, man. It's hard picking set lists at this point, too. Oh. You know? That gets real tricky. Do you do that yourself? You kind of organize it? Yeah, me and my band do it together. you know, it's, a lot of it's, a lot of it's data driven, you know, because you can see, you know, which songs people, the majority of people want to hear, like, you're always going to miss somebody's favorite song.

32:58You're probably going to miss my favorite song, you know, in some, in some sets. Just trying to figure out a way this year, since I'm, you know, I'm only playing 20 shows so probably if i can try to figure out a way to not play the same set list all the time you know because last year i i'd have interchanged a couple but i think it's going to be i'm going to make a bigger effort to try to make the set list different for at least each night you know maybe not every single show be a different set list but like night one night two yeah because we're playing two nights in each place. you know, trying to separate the two nights as far as music goes should be interesting because we've never done that before.

33:40We would always just do like maybe change one or two songs. You know, I'm thinking maybe a little more than that. I like that. Yeah, that way if he wanted to come for both nights too, they could and hear different stuff too. Yeah, a lot of people already do come both nights so that would be nice for them too. Yeah. There's really no way to do it perfectly. Somebody's going to be disappointed or, you know, at any point, oh, he didn't play this song or he didn't play that song but trying our best. I'm not going to play for four hours either. So, you know. Yeah. You got to keep it within reason. We got to meet in the middle, guys.

34:08Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do my best. I don't want to sing for four hours, you know. Two hours about, maybe a little longer than two hours. You put it on, man. Like, my show, like, I'll be out there for maybe about an hour and 15 minutes is probably the sweet spot for me to be on stage, I think, with a comedian where they're just, because we don't have any backup instruments, so people are like, fuck, somebody tapping a violin or something with this bastard. People get a little bit tired of it. But I can't, and that burns me out, man. I used to do two shows, and I only do one a night. But I can't imagine.

34:37Oh, you used to do two shows in one night? Yeah. Back to back? Yeah. When you first started as a... I think I remember you telling me that. Yeah, I think even whenever I first came to town, you guys came one night and saw me over at Zaney's, man. Yeah, yeah. That was cool. And you came and did my podcast early, man, and that helped me. It helped give me some just support in the community. I didn't even realize it was early because to me, I'd been listening to you for like a little while, you know, so I already knew you and knew about you and knew your story and everything. So it wasn't like, hey, come do this weird new guy's podcast.

35:08I already knew who you were. Well, it was just support, you know, it was nice to have some support, right, when I got into town. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm glad we got to do it, man. Damn, that was in 2020. Was it really? God. Dang, bro, look how happy you were. I think I got – I'm joking, dude. We both look happy. That's the pictures we picked. I look like I'm in pain. You look like you just came from the dentist. I look so white. Yeah, I think we had bad lighting then. Golly. We bought some better lights. Looking pasty, boy.

35:40What's up with the free time now? So you go hunting. Where do you guys like to go? Well, all over the place, man. I got a farm outside of town that we've been planting and getting all the agriculture right. I don't think you've been to my farm have you Oh no I may have just been to your house Yeah you've just been to my house I believe So we got deer and turkeys down there Oh yeah So that's pretty much what it's geared towards It's a really good We bought it it was already a really good Turkey farm And then we've just been adding a lot of the Agriculture and all that stuff To try to make it a better deer farm What makes a good setup like that Like what's the best way to make it set up where it's challenging to the hunter, but also like.

36:26I mean, it's always going to be challenging when deer hunting, just, you know, because you only get to kill two bucks in a season, in a state, you know, so you're not just going to go out there and shoot everything you see. Oh. You know what I mean? Like you may let a really good deer walk because you're trying to get a better, you know that there's a better deer in the area or you believe there's a better deer in the area, you know. Like we have cameras and stuff now, so we can kind of take inventory on stuff. But you're not, you don't, I think people, I don't know what people think about hunting, but like you don't just go out there and just massacre animals.

37:00Right, you're not out there with a handgun or nothing. No, but I mean, it's interesting. I mean, the main thing is food, you know, food and bedding. That's really all. That's what, those are the two main things that you need to have a good hunting farm. Okay. As long as you got their, the type of bedding that they want and preferably the type of food that they want, then you're going to keep those deer on your farm because they don't need to leave to go find either one of those. Right. They're happy. So they'll stay in their home range and they'll stay there and you can grow them. You know, like we don't want to at least try to get them to be five years old.

37:34And that's minimum that what we want to do. You know, depending on where you're at in the country, people will let them get older. It's a little different, I think, depending on your land, depending because, you know, like if you if you spend all this time and money and then you got your neighbor who if your deer walks across to their property line they might shoot it before you you were planning on shooting it so you know it's it's a little bit of a it can be a little bit of a game um so there can be property beef property line beef like that oh yeah there's all kinds of that going on yeah there's a lot of hunting property line beef and what about reindeer do you ever see reindeer out there or not I personally came across one.

38:13My son did just get a reindeer call, and one of my buddies from Alabama made him a reindeer call. Oh, wait for Christmas? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's hilarious. It was cool. Bro, you got to use that with him. That's pretty cool. Imagine that, dude. You're a kid, and you think it was a nice reindeer call. You're bringing in Santa, dude. Yeah, he thinks that's what he's doing. I mean, that would be – I don't even think he's actually tried it. Like, he, I guess that was probably last Christmas. So he's just got a lot of new interest and stuff this year. So I think I came home this past weekend, and I was working on my turkey call just in my mouth, you know, and he was trying to, like, mimic me and stuff.

38:54It was hilarious. He's just screaming, basically. Is it fun to watch him kind of grow? Like, has it been interesting? Is there moments where you see him learn something, and you almost see him learn it? Like, does that kind of happen? Yeah, it's cool. Like, I've been working on him on how to catch and stuff, you know. I've just been using, like, a soft basketball. I've got one of those, you know, just basketball goals you hang up on the door. Oh, yeah, there's just so much fun when you're a kid. I use it more than him still. Yeah. You're just making him rebound for you. Yeah, every time I'm on a phone, I'll just put my headphones in and just start shooting for, like, 30 minutes.

39:32Since it's been cold, especially. Yeah. But, yeah, just, you know, when we first started, he couldn't do it. And then, you know, a couple weeks later, he's, like, catching. And, you know, he can catch a bounce pass now. You know, it's just like just seeing those things progress in such a short period of time is cool. Does it make you have a different appreciation for your own dad? Or has it adjusted y 'all's relationship any, you think? Is that a weird question to ask? No, it's not a weird question. I think, yeah, I think it probably does. You know, I mean, me and my dad, we butted heads a lot growing up, especially once I got to high school just because I was I was you were you I was kind of ridiculous and I think he was kind of ridiculous when he was that when he was that age too so he was just trying to hey don't be like me when I was that age you know like I know what this turns I know how this ends usually so we just butted heads I didn't you know you don't believe anything your parents say when you're that it's the last person you want to believe it's so crazy it's not even possible I it wasn't possible in my head to believe that that's crazy to think now I'm like damn they were right but in my head it was not physically possible to think that they could be right it just wasn't it's kind of crazy because like oh these two people that love me and care about raised me this far they're trying to ruin my life yeah that's what you think it's wow totally it's it's insane really but um that's what i thought but yeah i mean after you know i moved out and once i really once i think i got moved down here to nashville that's when we we became closer yeah closer than ever because i moved here pretty young you know i was 22 when i moved here yeah and almost been here 10 years coming up so it's i think just having that space and then just being able to you should get older too you know and just oh that's the biggest thing you're like oh shit none of that other shit even matter what i'm doing like yeah you may maybe you could have went about it a little different or whatever you know but like the intentions were right yeah i mean i just got spending time with my mom is like a lot of my life it's like i'm waiting for my mom to like show me certain attention or affection or something the other night we're just sitting there we're watching at the opry and she went there like 40 years ago or something you know and um and i'm like it's kind of stupid but i just reached over and grabbed my mom's hand you know because it's like it's not about me being a kid anymore it's just about me being she's an older woman now so it's like let me just be an adult and almost act like i'm the parent you know i'm not the parent now but let me i don't know it's an old part of me like a child part of me like oh man man, it's my brother.

41:55I wish my mom would, you know, pat me on the back. Just do something, you know, show me a little bit of love or something. But then I just grabbed her hand, and then we just watched it together. And it was like me kind of – I don't know. It was a little moment for me where I was like, I'm not going to be that old grudge. I'm just going to move forward, you know? That's cool. Yeah. But it was just interesting. Or just to get my mom a hug while we're sitting there, you know? Yeah. Me and my mom, my mom always – we always had like a super, super good relationship. She was always loving and stuff, you know?

42:22So I felt all that for my mom. But me and my dad, like I said, we butted heads. So it was more of just getting past that phase in my life. But I didn't – once that phase was over, it was over to me. I don't have any sort of hard feelings towards it. Oh, yeah. Dude, your dad is so funny, dude. Right when I see him, my face just fucking smiles. Me too. He's just energetic. You said he was chipper. That's the right word for him. And he's been fasting for like 700 days, dude. At this point, I don't know. He ain't fasting right now. I've been seeing this man eat during this trip he's been down here.

42:58He ain't fasting. Don't let him lie to you. Because I've been basically eating clean and stuff, trying to get ready for tour and all that. And they're bribing me with all these hamburgers and stuff. I'm like, man, go cook that somewhere else. What about motorcycling? You got a motorcycle. I remember last time I saw you were talking about it. Did you get one? Yeah, I got it. oh you have a Harley hat on today I do yeah gang gang that's nice dude let's go baby I got this awesome like vintage thing yeah that's tough dude yeah man I enjoy it you do? yeah which I I kind of had ridden dirt bikes and stuff a little bit you know enough to understand my way around a bike already right so me and Cody and TD and a few a few other of us a few others we all got bikes so look at that shit I'll buy the cologne, whatever they're selling right there.

43:52It does look like that. It really does, huh? Exhaust by Morgan Wallen. Exhaust. Smells like a fart. That wouldn't be a bad cologne, though, dude. Smells like Morgan Wallen's farts, man. What if you had a blow to start that thing? What if you had a fucking one of those breath things on? I'm surprised I don't. I'm surprised I don't. Has anybody ever had a motorbike that has that on it? I'm sure they have. I'm surprised I don't have that on every vehicle I've got. Shout out to Davidson County.

44:29Sorry, man. That's hilarious. No, that's a handsome picture, man. That looks nice. Thanks, man. But you get out there. I like it because it's like you got your helmet on. Nobody knows who you are. You get out there. You got to focus on it, too. You ain't on your phone. You ain't doing anything else. You're just thinking about what you got to do on that bike. So I enjoy that aspect of it a lot. You like, at least me, I physically can't do anything else other than, you know, think about what's going on on this bike. Be locked in. Yeah. So I like that aspect of a lot. You know, you'll be riding and then all of a sudden it's five hours have gone by and you just don't realize that that happened.

45:05Damn. I got to get out there sometime. I'm just so bad. I'm bad at being in motion. Well, that might not be for you then. Yeah. I'm better. I'm better. What do you mean? Wait, what do you mean? Keep going. I'm bad at just like being in motion and having to think at the same time. I'm more of a stop and think than move. What are we thinking about, though? Just anything, whatever the next thing has to be. It's just hard for me. Like I get, I just. You can just be in the back of the line then. Yeah, I'll be in the back. You can just follow us. Yeah. Yeah, I would be a good. Yeah, I don't want to be at the front.

45:37Okay. Yeah. Or the middle. The middle is probably the safest anyway. You can be in the middle because you're protected in the back. You're protected in the front. You don't have to make any decisions. you just follow the decisions. That's where I need to be then. I don't, you should take, what's Harry? You should go take Harry's motorcycle class. That's who we took our class from. Really? He was cool. Yeah. I mean, I learned things I didn't know. Yeah. You know, it wasn't easy necessarily either. You know, there was things that were challenging. Do y 'all go in a pack when y 'all go out there?

46:06I've ridden a couple times by myself but I would have somebody following me, you know, like my security or just anyone. But we mostly just ride at least in groups of two. Yeah. A lot of times groups of four. That's tough, man. Maybe I'll have to get out there. I got to pray about that. Yeah, I don't want to. Don't let me. I'm not influencing you at all. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to be out there just like, listen. I'm the problem. You can just get in the sidecar. Me and you, Ryan. Get a little German sidecar. Yeah, dude, your cousin Andrew and I are friends, man.

46:41Yeah. He's a classic. Dude, he is. Okay. Your family is funny, dude. We've got a lot of characters in our family. That's what you have, dude. Even when I remember when you first told me I met you about your Uncle David or somebody who would come to your holidays. And then just different people you would tell me and then getting to meet your dad. And then, yeah, Andrew and I have become friends over the years. He's hilarious, dude. Yeah, he definitely is hilarious. Went fishing with him. Dude, that dude, he'll put a damn, he'll start fishing anywhere. You guys buy a Chase Bank and he'll cast over there and put a frog top on there just because there's a bank.

47:16He'll catch a damn He'll catch a safe deposit box Over there 12 pounds Oh god But he Dude he's just good He took us out to some property Him and Ben Weppern I think is the guy's name Yeah Ben Yeah And we had a blast man But he's good Where'd y 'all go to Hold them all? No we went to Oh you went to E's Yeah Yeah yeah yeah We went to E's And it was cool though I hadn't been there God that's beautiful That place is immaculate God God. Yeah, that was good, man. Got some big fish in there. It's a beautiful spot, man. But does he hunt with you? Does he hunt? Does Andrew hunt with you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, some.

47:52He does, yeah. I like hunting with him. You know, he works for Field and Stream, so he travels a lot doing that job, which I think is a really good job for him. He loves it, man. Yeah. Yeah, he's talented, but he's hilarious, dude. We all keep telling him, like, he should have his own YouTube channel or something. Really should, man. Just a series of some sort. And just the things that happen to that guy. I'm like, dude, I don't know how this has occurred to you, but, you know, the world deserves to hear this. Yeah, that's okay, brother. The world deserves to share in your pain that you're dealing with right now.

48:26Because the things that happened to him are just unbelievable, man. Bro, he's just such a good story. Yeah, bro, getting to know him has been a gift, man. Yeah, he is a true, he's a treasure, man. He really is. He's a national treasure. He's a buried treasure, too, I think. He is buried right now. We keep, I mean, maybe he'll take this and he'll watch this clip and go start his channel, you know? He's entertaining. Yeah, man, he's just entertaining. He's E to D to be around. And, yeah, that field and stream job with him is perfect. And he can do both. He could have that job and do, you know, that could almost be part.

49:01Or find a way to put them together. That's what I'm saying. It could be a part of the same thing. You couldn't find a guy that's more perfect for that. But has there been something nice that you kind of got yourself as a gift that you started, you know, feeling like you were doing pretty well?

49:16I mean. A trip you took or anything? Yeah, I mean, I used to be probably a little more frugal than I am right now. Yeah, same. I don't like going to get stuff. I don't like shopping for stuff, too. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything that I was just really splurged out on. You know, I got a couple of watches and just things like that, and I got a couple of nice cars. I mean, I don't feel like I'm an over-the-top big spender guy, you know, a lot of times. What was your first car? Do you remember it? Yeah, it was a Jeep Cherokee. Was it really, dude? I got a freaking Jeep Cherokee, dude.

49:58You do right now? Yeah, and Los Angeles have a car there. It's got like only 12 ,000 miles on it. Oh, this thing had a lot more than 12 ,000 miles on it. Really? Yeah. It was a white Jeep Grand Cherokee. I think it was a 95 if I'm remembering correctly. Dude, I like those cars. It was not a bad car. I mean, it wasn't whoever had it. It wasn't the most. It was like that right there. That's exactly what it looked like. God, those bitches were tough, dude. That's exactly what it looked like. Yeah, I had them Ford Escort, 84 Ford Escort. Pull that bitch up, dude. If they'll even allow you. Sometimes Google won't let you look at them anymore.

50:29them bitches are visually outlawed bro that shit don't cross it'll remodel your eye line when you look at that bitch dude god damn that bitch looks horrible i hadn't looked at in a few years i could i mean yeah that's pretty bad especially that one on the right that blue one god that one pulled up Yeah, yeah, yeah. And barely pulled up. That bitch pulled up slow, dude. It's got a two-cylinder in it. Probably had a fucking outboard motor engine in it. You had to steer it like with the reverse way. Like you had to do a John boat. Yeah, it had a boat motor in it, dude. Steered it from the back. And dude, somebody stole my passenger seat in that bitch Really?

51:26Yeah, so if you had Was it only a two-seater anyway? No, it had three extra little seats in the back Oh, okay, okay But they weren't even a bench It was three individual little bitty seats Three booster seats right there? You either had to have three kids that were triplets, I guess Or a couple small buddies But somebody had stole my damn passenger seat, dude Did you ever get it back? Uh-uh Uh, some of them were eating at a Burger King and somebody stole that bitch out of there. And, um, but then people, people had to get in, they get in the car, but they couldn't sit right there. Dude, I'll tell you this.

52:02Did you put a couple blankets down or something or what? I don't know, whatever, dude. But, uh, the one time I picked up a dude, I was getting him to buy me alcohol at a gas station. I was skipping school and he got in this kind of homeless-y kind of guy and he got in and instead of sitting in the back, he just got on his knees right there at the passenger side. so I'm driving and he just, he was your friend? I didn't know him. No, he's like a guy who I gave money to buy me alcohol. Oh, okay. So, but anyway, I don't know why I'm telling you all this. Um, I just cleaned out my car. Actually, I did not.

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57:45It might be like house music or something, you know? I don't know. That would be pretty sick, dude. Yeah, dude, if you had house music. I mean, people would, if they saw my name on it, I don't want it to have my name on it. I want to just see what happens if it just gets put out to the world. You know, maybe I'll like put it on a story or something, whoever it is, you know, Dream Jacker or whatever the team is, but whatever the name of the guy is. Yeah, dude. Wet dream jacker. That'd be mine. Dream jacking currently. I mean, me and my buddies were talking about this topic the other day, actually.

58:24I don't know. It might actually happen. Putting out something secret, low-key? Yeah. Creating something? Yeah. Well, I bet because that's an interesting thing. It's like once you kind of have made a name in one space, it's kind of hard. You can't, you know, if you want to get a real test of what people think of something, you kind of have to secretly do it some other way. Yeah, but it wouldn't even be similar to the type of music that I'm doing. I totally understand that. It would be nothing even close to what I'm doing now. It would be like, I mean, I like house music a little bit. So I'll listen to it working out or driving or stuff, you know, like melodic stuff.

58:55Like that kind of stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like a lot of that stuff doesn't necessarily have a lot of words and stuff, you know. So maybe what if I took a song of mine that didn't make my album, but it's got a story. It's got all these things. You know, what would people like that? I don't know. Dude, I thought, I started thinking of this about two years ago. So they have like ED, you go to these nightclubs and stuff and they'll have like John Summit, these different kind of guys who are playing like house, like trance or whatever. Whatever it is, it's just people doing dope really late at night and just doing like this, you know, whatever that is.

59:29I don't know the difference between all those styles of music. It's like, it's one style of music. I know there's sub-genres and all that, but yeah. Same. I don't have a clue. But I'm always like, why don't they have a more country? Why is it always? If they had remixes of a lot of great country music, and you put it to that same type of shit, because people want to still go have that environment, but sometimes you get tired of that music. It just gets kind of old. So if they had remixes of some dope country shit, I'm like, if they had two country DJs that came out, I feel like it would be so sick just doing remixes and shit.

1:00:02It would be cool. I'm surprised they don't have that already. Me too. Me and Caleb Presley thought about trying to do it, but then it was just like, you just don't have a lot of time. And that becomes something, too. It's like there's things you want to do, and you just don't have enough time. Yeah, and that's smart for you to realize that. I mean, it'll be like, well, I'm going to quit my job. It pays all my bills and go be a mason. It's like, well, maybe don't do that. So, yeah. Under and young. Just fucking remixing, fucking Brooks and Dunn. Before you go, man, you have some amazing artists that are going to be on some of these tour dates with you.

1:00:41Yeah, I do. Did you have to call them individually and ask them? How'd that kind of go? Because some of these are idols, really, in the industry. Well, I feel, you know, Miranda, I'm good friends with Miranda. I'm good friends with Brooks and Dunn. So that was pretty easy? Yeah, I mean, there was already mutual interest, and that's something that's kind of been a conversation for a little bit longer than just, you know, this year. So that one kind of just worked itself out between them and my managers. I'm good friends with Thomas Red as well. So that one, they were all – He's nice, huh? He's super nice.

1:01:15God, what a nice guy. He lives nearby, I think. Yeah, I think you're right. It just all kind of happened pretty naturally. But, I mean, it's unbelievable to me. You know, like I haven't really – this page that's pulled up, I mean, just to see the people that are opening for me, it's like it doesn't even make sense, you know. Miranda Ella Langley, she's a new. Yeah, she's a badass. Or she's newly more popular. Yeah. I'm not going to say she's new. I don't know about her history. I don't either, but. Miranda Corey Kent, I'm not familiar with them. If it's a man. It is. Yeah. He's good, too. I'm going to have to check him out.

1:01:50Yeah, Ann Wilson, she's a Christian artist by trait, but she's, you know, dabbling in the country music world. She's really good. You know, she's on our agency. so she is yep yep um you started off to check her out oh gavin adcock's out there with that fucking guy's a wild dude i love that guy man he's walking like i see he'll eat a fucking he'll eat a damn three pack i saw him eat a three pack of beers he probably did oh he'll eat fucking two beers dude yeah he doesn't give a damn dude he played offensive line for bud light for a couple years i think there is nobody like him dude he's fucking he he's definitely outlandish one of those things those military one of those mres or whatever he's got beer in there

1:02:46but he he's uh he's entertaining he's entertaining he's got he's got a good voice too and his his music seems like he just keeps getting better too so i'm i'm happy for him man i gotta tap him more than my song play with uh kid rocking them on his one of his shows last year dude i'll say this bob ritchie his live performance dude no he'll he'll let him have it won't he bro i was fucking i mean i know you know but i didn't he it was good i've never seen it person like firsthand but it was really i can imagine i mean i knew it would be but it's just been some time you know it's hard to keep up you know i mean being out there for two hours i mean you guys get i mean it's a lot man it is man it can be for sure i mean depends on how often you do it too you know i mean if you're doing it some people i guess still do it three three nights a week i'm just i'm just gonna do it too because it feels like a disservice to to me and everyone else to do it three days in a row you know but two two seems like a good sweet spot um you can as long you know you play the show probably don't go to bed till three four in the morning just because you're so wound up.

1:03:54Yeah, you're up, people are visiting, you gotta say bye to everybody, all that shit. Well, I don't do all that anymore much. But even if your family's there and stuff. Yeah, but even still, they know what the priorities are at this point. So if I play a show, You'll head out. which my boy, if my boy's with me, he'll be asleep already anyway. So I'll just, we head straight out, don't stick around. I try to go to bed as soon as possible. Usually, like I said, don't have until three or four. Then you try your best to sleep till noon, one, two, as late as you possibly can just because of your voice after doing all that you know you need all that rest um so it's a it's become a little bit more like a regiment for me which is which is good you know i got a vocal coach and all that stuff too now so it's just like it's like a whole boom boom boom boom boom this is how it is now you know and that seems to help me a lot yeah yeah it's kind of interesting when i was a little younger i could do those i could do you know some of the stretches and now i'm like i don't i wish i when i do see them on the schedule it's a little bit tougher not comparing comedy and and what you know no but I mean, it is a similar thing.

1:04:53It's still the same thing. It's like a regimen. It's like, yeah, I got to sleep in late. And it's like, well, that kind of sucks because now it's like, it's kind of hard if you wake up at 10 to go back to sleep for two more hours just because it's light out. It's really hard. It's hard, but you know you need that two more hours of sleep. Otherwise, I'm going to be edgy, you know, and I won't be able to, I might not want to go work out. Just all the little things like. Yeah, it is. It's important. Because it's just about getting yourself back on the stage for that next, that when it's time to go, it's time to go.

1:05:17Yeah, I mean, back in the day, I mean, which we weren't playing two-hour shows back then either, you know, but we would play six shows in one week, you know. So I don't know how. I mean, it just had to be young, I guess, you know. I mean, it wasn't like we were. The only regimen then was sleep till four, start drinking at five. You know what I mean? Like that's what it was then, and we're going to be good. Ain't that right? Bro, hell yeah, that's a Gavin Adcock national anthem right there. I think back in the day, if I had a camera on me like Adcock does now, they would be probably saying some similar stuff about me.

1:05:54But he's a little more bold with it, I guess, than I was. Well, he's really, yeah. Oh, dude, he's fucking, he'll be on stage. People, I think there's some, he's like, people are throwing fucking beers. He just has beers bouncing off of them. He's an animal, dude. dude. He'd be like, the PA system's shut down, but we gonna still fucking perform. He just yell. He just, he'll hollow out a beer can and just yell out of it and shit. He's fucking doing all kinds of shit. He is ballsy, dude. His personality's cool. He's a fun guy. Very entertaining. I gotta tap into more of his music. I haven't listened to a lot of his music.

1:06:28Yeah, you need to get him on here. Yeah. I do need to. People say that we look alike a little bit, but I think they're just being nice to me. To you or him. one of us dude um oh yeah you got your drink here man you brought this today that real tea how's it going real tea man it seems to be seems to be progressing nicely i like it i like it on ice better um yeah but i've always liked sweet tea better on ice but i mean you know because i've been i'm trying to eat and live and drink and all that stuff clean so for something that's actually you know healthy it's it's good yeah yeah it's good for sure i like it i like having a nice uh little can of tea or something i'll keep a couple in the car i'll drink them warm even do you yeah i'll get a whole one in me at a stoplight yeah i don't do all that you don't know my my drummer told me one time he had drank like i can't remember how many you know like 13 or something ungodly in a short amount of time said damn man you're gonna have kidney stones for sure hey that's well maybe he'll have a band a cover band of the rolling stones it's called kidney stones they're rolling kidney stones um is there a song sometimes of your own that you'll listen to or one that catches you sometimes it'll kind of catch you in your feels a little bit is there anyone that you're like i mean yeah the song the song i wrote to my son is is the song oh the one that's not out yet yeah that does that it'll be out soon but okay um I mean, it's also one of those things to where, you know, I've tried so many times to write a song like that for him, and it always fell flat.

1:08:05So I'd listen to it on the way home or whatever after we wrote it, and I'd be like, that's good, you know, but it's not how I want it. And I also didn't want to write, like, a song to him that was all, I don't know, sappy and slow and you know just like what you would expect a dad's son song to be you know oh i wish you wouldn't grow up you know all that like i didn't want it to be that i wanted another birthday cake yeah it's like i didn't want that song at all that song's been written plenty enough so and i wanted it to keep like have a little bit of my my sound and my swag and just like, and to be honest, you know, so it was a hard thing to try to get all those things wrapped up into one song.

1:08:55And it's called Superman is what it's called. And I feel like we accomplished that. And when I was, when we wrote it and I was riding home, it was actually the last song that made my record. So it's not like I've had it for a long time. You know, it took us a while to, to get that song. And, um, it was actually Blake, one of my buddy Blake's, It was his idea. And the hook was different, though. It said Superman. I don't remember what the hook was exactly, but I was just singing it. And I was like, oh, I know what it is. And I changed the hook, and it made it. It was like, oh, there it is. Unlocked.

1:09:29And all three of us, or four of us in the room, just kind of was like, oh, yeah, that's it. You know, and then on the way home, I was listening to it and started crying. And that's the first time that it happened with a song for him. So that's, I kind of knew. that's cool man yeah man there's one thing I've always thought you had very good instincts man I've always admired your instincts whether it's humor we're joking around you're fucking sharp dude you're a sharp fucking guy I appreciate you just supporting my podcast and it's nice of you and thanks for all the great music man that one about the mom oh I wrote the book and that one sometimes that's one of my favorites still If I'm driving home at night or something, I'll listen to that one, dude.

1:10:14You know? That's a good one. That one kind of puts me in a good spot, you know? Yeah. I like that one, too, man. Yeah, and what's the one about the mom? You talking about my mom? Yeah. Thought you should know? Yeah, that one. Yeah. Yeah, that one. God damn, dude. I pull over and cry sometimes. Do you really? I'm like, fuck, you can't cry and drive, you little bitch. This goes back to what you were talking about, thinking and motion and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it is, dude. I like this. It's too much.

1:10:44Morgan Wallen man One of the most prolific artists I think ever on the face of the earth man It's a pleasure dude I feel lucky to get to know your cousin He and I are close Thanks for all the entertainment On behalf of everybody It's been a gift man Thank you man I say the same to you I appreciate everything that you do for me Cheers brother excited for the new album Yes sir

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