#650 - Jake Paul

32:30It's like, I've found myself believing stuff. And it's like, this is, you know, I'm sure you've read things about yourself that are astronomically outrageous. No, a hundred percent. This is, I think the word you said that is key is like repercussions. Like there needs to be some form of punishment for invalid commentary on anything yeah um and this is why i started suing people because um have you had a lot of nil type like that sort of issues or just people saying stuff people mostly like rigged fights and and steroids and fake fights and like this type of thing it's like bro do i look like i'm on steroids like no i'm a chubby kid like do you know how legal it is within all of these commissions to rig fights like you guys are actually fucking stupid but i can't say that to them and then even when i'm like sitting here now defending myself it it feels like they're gonna look at it and be like of course he would say that right um so i'm just suing people because that's when the truth comes out is like let's let's go to court yeah let's actually look at the documents and see if my fights were rigged and get to the bottom of it and i know i'll come out on top because they're not and so yeah and this is i'm gonna go delete an old tweet as well as you're saying this but uh yeah oh yeah you you did say that thing.

34:03I was like, fuck you for a second, bro. I was actually mad at you. I was mad at you. But I was mad at you for saying that. Yeah. I can't remember if I did say it. Why, though? Because I think, yeah, I think it's exactly what you're saying. It was like, well, let me think about it. I don't know exactly what I said, but it was something like, yeah. I don't, or yeah, some... I actually remember this now, yeah. It was a jab like that. Yeah, you did. It was a verbal jab like that. You said that. I'm sorry, man. Don't sue me also, please. And I will take it down. but like um but what what it's fine by the way it's fine it's fine but why like what was the because i i look at it to be honest as another male who's insecure about me being successful trying to take me down hmm let me think about that for just a second let me really think about it yeah um yeah why would i say it was probably it was like um it felt like probably a bandwagon any type of thing, you know?

35:00Um, I'm not using that as an excuse. I'm just saying that was probably part of it. Um, let me think. Uh, oh yeah. It's easy for me now in hindsight. Yeah. It's easy for me to like, um, just say something from, from here where I'm sitting here. I don't have to say it to his face. I don't have to be around him and say it because I wouldn't, I probably, I wouldn't do that unless I felt like it was a joking environment that was like safe. um yeah so those are probably the things to be honest with you and and um and i think it would take us longer for me to sit here and or you know it took me longer to really probably sit and like kind of think out what all the small parts were but those honestly are the things that i'm thinking of off the bat yeah no and and uh like appreciate your honesty and candidness around that like and it's it is annoying for me because i fucking work my ass off in the gym like all the fucking time i think i mean you came i mean like there was a there was a time where it was like yeah this this guy isn't a real fighter these are things that people would say and then there's no there's no person now like you disproved but but that's the thing is i could handle the not a real fighter because i'm like fuck you haha right i could handle the um like most of the things that people said but then when i got so good that people couldn't believe what i was doing that it turned to fake fight steroids that really bothered me to be honest um i don't know why like it just like seemed like the polar opposite thing that people could say that would disprove it all um so it was so far from truth and i think that's why i'm blessed by god and like such a uh pivotal person in today's society is because i live by truth and i think that when you do that, God continues to bless you.

37:09And I think the fake fights thing is so far from the truth that it really bothered me. Yeah. I could see that. I could see that it would. Well, yeah, man, I'm sorry if I contribute to that. Bro, it's fine. It's fine. No problem. But I'm glad that we're talking about this because I do think that it's interesting. I think that, yeah, I think there's something like, yeah, why does that kind of, like, why do we, or why have I acted that way? Why do we act? Like, why is, you know, sometimes it's in just, it's getting involved in the conversation, but yeah, to think that there's not like real repercussions or real, like just things that happen, feelings that happen.

37:55Do you, I think sometimes people, you guys are such good promoters over the years, right? And you guys have done a good job of continuing to evolve in entertainment and society. Like there's not a lot of people that have a 17 year lifespan in entertainment. It may be longer. I'm not even sure how old you are. Yeah. It's been like 13 years. Yeah. I mean, to keep that and have a level that is like one of the highest levels in different mediums. And then And also I think people don't know, like, um, I don't know if people don't know, but it's tough to get people to reframe you into something that's different.

38:38I'm not using those as excuses. I'm just saying that there could be some of that in there, bro. I'm not going to lie. Like if I might have a little, if I, um, like saw me as another, like young and up incoming male i would like have jealousy of myself and be like fuck this guy he's got a jet and a gold medal fiance and the perfect life and 6 000 acre ranch i would have jealousy it's human nature right so i like get it like it just is what it is um i just think there could be some of that in there yeah and yeah i mean it's like um it's weird and and also like does it help you keep going though is there some of it that keeps a chip on your shoulder

39:32because i got an i'm not i don't know what i'm motivated by anymore to be honest yeah that's interesting i feel that sometimes i think it's i think it goes back to like helping others and like community i'm a big fan of marcus aurelius and i mean the biggest thing he just says is like your duty to society is the most important thing and so i think that's where i've landed recently because i have like everything and um like you have enough for yourself you mean you have what you need yeah and and and my family and all of that so like i i just go back to like the leader of the roman empire should probably listen to what he had to say and one of his biggest sayings is i should you know your biggest thing is to be uh a part of society and make it a better place.

40:34So I think that's, that's maybe where I'm at, um, these days. One thing that really, um, kind of like touched me was the way your reaction and involvement with your, uh, fiance at the Olympics. I thought that was really cool, man. I think there was something like just as a guy, like a lot of guys, I think don't probably do a lot of supporting of their girlfriends or spouses in certain ways. And, uh, I thought something like that was really beautiful to see. I think we have, do you have anything of it? His wife wanted gold

41:08and they're cruising out there. Are they cruising? Bro, they're cooking. Um, this is awesome, bro. How are you feeling? What was bro? So yeah.

41:30So as a human, just like everything that happened and the way it played out was just nuts. And I know how hard she works and like how dedicated she is and how much every single day she's putting so much detail into her work. And, um, the girl right before her like two races before set sorry set set the olympic record so we were all like looking at each other like oh my god that was a fast time she she might not win right now like what the fuck um and then she just fucking calms out and sets the new Olympic record and fucking wins. Let's go. And I could tell that she was going to win before everyone else because I see her times, and so that's why I was already crying.

42:38And I was like, I don't cry. So there was some more buildup to it. It wasn't just that exact moment. You could feel it coming on. Yeah. No, I could see the speed and the times on the digital board. So I knew maybe before anyone else. And, bro, I'm the one that has to deal with her stress and problems and thoughts around the whole sport on a daily basis. So I knew how much it meant to her. and yeah it was just like witnessing fucking greatness at the highest level in the coolest thing representing her country the dutch people were all there screaming like all of it was just beautiful um the dutch are fucking aerodynamic dude i've always said that yeah they're very aerodynamic you've been you've been long on on the dutch they're tall and they're a lot of them very aerodynamic.

43:37Pull up a Dutch, man. Bro, just pull up a Dutch. Honestly, you're just very aerodynamic. I'm not gonna lie. Look at this, man. Hold on. That's just a random Dutch. Zoom in on that guy on the right. Fucking Mr. Dutch right there. And fucking his little Dutch dime right there. Boy, it's Dankeschane, homie. Dankeschane, that guy will fucking take on a wind right there. That dude will take on a fucking headwind and a heartbeat. You'll be back to Puerto Rico 10 minutes sooner if that guy was fucking attached to the front of your bird. That's for sure. I think there was something You're right. You're right, bro.

44:20I've known that since I was young. My mother told me that. The dust were aerodynamic. Aerodynamic, she said it. What else did your mom teach you? What did she tell me? I don't know. She was always working. She would fucking drive by and yell at us. She's like, go brush your teeth. She'd fucking I'm zooming by in her car fucking yelling, dude. Brush your fucking teeth. We're just in the yard. We're like, we're not even inside right now. But she tried to parent the best she could. You know, she was just always like delivering stuff. No, I thought it was awesome too that you're like working on your foundation.

44:54What is it with Cat Williams or? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I was saying. I'm just happy for your mother that she's going to benefit. Yeah, I'm glad to see. Mom, you're going to get an afternoon off, dude. Yeah. So what's the foundation again? Put that clip in. The foundation doesn't have a name yet. Nobody even knows those are coming out, but people are going to be. It's benefiting the parents of autistic kids, right? Yep, we're going to. Dude, your family is going to be up.

45:32Yeah they are dude And there's other autistic people in my fucking family We're calling those motherfuckers out Dude there should be a All of them are gonna make hella brother Based off of your organization It's low key insider trading Yeah Bro I'll fucking give you that one dude Fuck bro Dude you're fucking yeah You're fucking funny dude This is fucking great K-pop Demon Hunters, Saja Boys Breakfast Meal, and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

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50:16To learn more about Valor Recovery, please visit them at www.valorrecoverycoaching.com or email them at admin at valorecoverycoaching.com. Thank you. That was a special time. I'm glad we all got to witness that and that you went there and showed up for that. If you didn't have any money, right? Say you didn't have anything and you had to get, what would you get your girl for like a present or whatever you think? I would write her a letter. I think that's still the most meaningful thing that you could do.

51:01Words, I think, are the most important thing in love. And yeah, I would just write her a letter. Yeah. Oh, uh Yeah, I saw that you sat with Vance at the Olympics Vance is cool, huh? Yeah, Ohio guy He's neat to be around Yep No, he's super normal, bro Um God damn, he's pulling up the photos Like That's his fucking job Yeah, he's just, um Just joking, Trevor, sorry Um, yeah, I like being around Vance He's been on here a couple times Do you think he's trying to position himself to be that next dog? Or what do you think?

51:38i think i think yeah of course like that's the nature of the game um and yeah like he's uh yeah if you're gonna if you're the vice president you're already playing the game that's a dangerous game and I like dabble in it which it's scary because I don't want to get fucking popped but like and beyond that there's so many things behind the scenes brands people won't even associate with you because of your political stance so it's a really interesting game to like play in but he's already balls deep so yeah i think he's gonna jockey for president for sure it's gonna be scary when you're that deep in it yeah it makes it easier when you have like 15 securities uh around you and people have to get wanded just to talk to you but like yeah it's still weird it's still weird bro like it's the weirdest thing in the world um Do you, yeah, have you had to play?

52:56You're playing the biggest game of life. That's fucking true, dude. And it's gotten dangerous. Yeah, and do you want to play that? And, like, can you? It's just really interesting, like. Is there room for you in that space? I saw something recently with you and Trump where you guys were, like, kind of flirting or whatever, just palling around or whatever. Yeah, we were flirting. He's cute. No, I saw a thing where you guys, and he was giving you a lot of credit. Yeah, I was nervous. Like, I was sweating hella. Fuck. Yeah, it's got to be a moment like that where you're like, okay, this is kind of wild.

53:38No, yeah. At that point, like, life didn't make sense. I had to, like, call my dad for him to ground me a little bit. But even he was like, bro, what the fuck? This is the coolest thing in the world. yeah I've been like flirting with the idea of politics just because I think it goes back to Marcus Aurelius of like helping society and like what that's the number one thing you can do

54:08and it's become a joke like my my business partner Jeff Wu we have a venture capital fund together. Bring up Jeff. Bring up Wu. And let's get a gander at him. Yeah, yeah. Okay, there he is.

54:27So six years ago, he was like, you're going to become the president. No way he said that. Yeah. And then it became less and less of a joke. And then I started to realize like, oh my God.

54:44if I'm the best person to do it and can actually win then I might need to do it I'm already playing the biggest games of life so we'll dabble in that if it makes sense and if there's a Kamala running on the Democratic Party fucking dumbass running and opposing um i will enter the game and and risk getting assassinated but i don't want to so um and what would you wear like a you couldn't wear like a helmet or something you'd have to have shields and stuff around you probably or just you'd have to how crazy would it be if to protect yourself to run you literally had to like almost like i wonder if people running in the future like live stream from a bunker do you know i'm saying do their things from like a protected space because it's going to get dangerous out there yeah no you're a thousand percent right like that they're they actually probably will like i i yeah like i'm even scared just talking about this shit yeah um but i think we're getting to a place where i could see something like that happening i could see you running i could see something like that i could see like it does take something inside of people, I feel like that they feel a sense of a purpose and a calling to something.

56:09And if they can make sure that that's not just attached to their own ego and they can make sure that there is a sense of like, I can do something better and I'm willing to put myself out there to do that. Yes. And sign up for the hardest job in the world. Yeah. Where you're fucking 14 hours a day just cranking it. I seen Trump. His energy is why he's there. Like he's a fucking legend in that, in that sense. And it demands so much of you and will take away not only your life, but everyone that you're affiliated with. So you're also like signing your kids up for it. So like, I really don't want to do it, but like it's become like a funny joke that I would.

57:00and then randomly Trump endorses me fully, which someone texted me that said, like, you'd have to pay him a billion dollars to get that endorsement. And you got it for free right there. Yeah. Hold it up. Let me see a little endorsement. This is pretty good. God is with us. I know he wants us on the right side of history. and everyone here has to do their part and god's got us trump's got us god bless love you kentucky you did a good job there man that's a fucking tough environment to be in that kind of space i mean it would it be something like you would run with advantage i mean do you think it's something like that or would you start as mayor of like like northern puerto rico or something or do you is there any talks or what is the concept i guess sorry yeah so you're actually are like super

58:02perceptive because yeah that was my plan was to start in northern Puerto Rico NPR dude which just got defunded so put it back on the map I don't know I honestly don't know but it's just something like it's like a port it's like kind of like a light in the distance right now yeah and it just seems like we need heroes out there. Yeah, and like Charlie would have been the guy. Yeah. So, it's fucking sad, bro. He's fucking awesome. Did you spend time with him? No, no. Just followed all of his stuff. But, like, you know what? He was like aiming for it, though. I think that's the problem. It's like, I'm just a fucking kid from Ohio.

58:57That's a high school dropout. Like, if it makes sense at some point, then it makes sense. And that was like his job and his purpose and all of that. Yeah. And I loved that. But like, it, you know, if someone was like, this is like me becoming a world champion in boxing. Like it makes more sense than Jake Paul becoming president. Charlie Kirk was clearly going to be the next president. So I think that's part of the whole. Right, the whole energy that's out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point that somebody did. There was probably people that didn't want to see that possibly occur. They didn't want to see that get to the next level or, yeah, there's a lot of investigatory stuff about that.

59:54You know, some people say that it was like a microphone on his lapel that blew up and that that's what killed him. And then that microphone was made here in Tennessee. And then two weeks after that, the factory was made at, blew to smithereens. And like 16 people died, which is just a kind of a crazy like, that's one of the wildest kind of like, that's one of the most interesting theories that I've heard. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there these days. and I was just with some like bros in Minnesota and they were kind of asking me about these conspiracy theories because they were like oh he knows more than than I do um I think that a lot of it is fucking bullshit and people just want something to like hang on to um I I don't disagree on like certain points but you have to be really smart and selective to decipher the conspiracy theories that are out there and like realize which ones have like even a little bit of truth but why as a society like do we hang on to these so much like conspiracy theories yeah because it's like well we love drama as humans basically like we just love fucking bad news and we love to like we have it yes this is the fucking problem it is a problem and so conspiracy theories give people a reason to fucking gossip and like just it's just like something to do bro people are bored Like I've never met a rich person who's doing dope shit in life that gives a fuck about any of this shit because they just have better shit to do.

1:01:45That's the problem is like people need to go get a job and have a purpose.

1:01:52And we're at a point, though, I think, where people can't trust mainstream media. They don't trust it. It's heavily owned by a couple of corporations. And so I think that created a lot of this space for, like, just outlier investigators, outlier people asking questions when every, you know, there's that famous thing during - This is the problem, is all of it has become an entertainment product. It's all the WWE. I've been saying this years. Exactly, exactly. Everything is the WWE. So this person who's claiming to tell the truth, starts to dabble in like a little bit of like fun, fun, fun. Cause it's going to get more views.

1:02:39I mean, it goes back to, um, a lot of these people. And you understand that. I mean, you guys have done, this is why I understand it. Got it. it's cause I do this, but, but the difference is I'm not doing it on things that like affect the world. And I'm not talking about missiles and Iran and fucking Israel and Charlie Kirk. I'm like talking shit to Conor McGregor. Right. So I'm down to like entertain when it's in the entertainment world. Got it. When it's in politics, like people shouldn't fuck around. And so like who is telling the truth these days? Yeah. And I wish you think with all this technology or something, there would be able to be like a truth filter you could put over something on your phone.

1:03:33But then I guess it would be like, what is the arbiter of the truth? Like, it's like a lot of these like AI models now. It's like they have information that's put into them. So they're only going to spit out whatever, you know, like the information is controlled. So you're only going to get answers that are based on it. one thing you said that I did want to say that I thought was interesting was during the Roman Empire, a lot of the politicians also had to fight on the battlefield. So that was one thing that I thought was really amazing about those times where it's like, if they were going to make choices that affected the lives of like the citizens of the military, of like the farmer who was putting down his pitchfork and picking up a sword, like they had to be out there as leaders as well um and i feel like that's where some of your energy comes from and so i think i uh i admire that i think it's i think it's dope and i agree like if i ever was running for office i would also be like super down to have an ar-15 and fucking shoot these motherfuckers out of a fucking gun and a shield yeah bro like who has that dude i'm down to die bro i think i put that on the line with anthony joshua like i'm down for this shit bro but like you're i think you're right That's a really good point actually Like Trump should be On the front lines Or Barron I don't know if he's old enough yet He might be too tall to be out there too He's gonna get his head clipped Bro's a big target He's gonna stand out bro And he's good looking So they're gonna be like oh yeah that guy Fucking get him this is a funny question if aliens came to earth which human would you want them to meet only could meet one human which human oh I think I don't know if you send like a brother over there probably NBA young boy maybe dude I think because I think that would just be

1:05:49Yeah Well have you seen the Who's that guy You know what I was thinking the same thing Let's go dude And welcome to America's Last brain cell I'm Theoban And this is Jake Paul Oh dude what about your freaking mom Was trying to freaking holler at me Is that true What was happening I thought she was married She is They're in a great relationship I love my mom And stepdad Damn am I only going to get in trouble Is this bad And Derek is that your stepdad Rick Derek David I was wondering the other day I was like what is his stepdad's name okay so this I mean philosophically what? philosophically if a woman is in a relationship for 30 years with a normal guy for sure and then the fucking mohawk comes out with the ovan she might start flirting bro when you see the lord's parakeet exactly my point and my mom is the goat she's a life maxer so she's gonna life max and she's pulling up pictures oh yeah that's who she is right there that's Pam I am boy bro Pam I am would you have done it though and by done it what do you mean take her out for ice cream or a film yes are you talking about like what are you talking about I'm I would have taken her for ice cream out of hetero Murli.

1:07:45And that's why I approve of your guys. Good answer. Political answer. I'd be a good stepdad though, dude. Bro, if you were my stepdad, I'd be so happy, bro. That's all I need in life, honestly. I would let y 'all smoke. Not in the house or something, but I would let y 'all smoke. Which kind of smoke? Huh? You can smoke dope. Smoke it outside. I don't give a shit. As long as you don't smoke outside of our bedroom window or something while we're trying to rest. Do you think my mom's hot? Huh? I think she's a beautiful lady. I like her as hot. I don't know. I'd have to see her again in person. She did this list for you, bro.

1:08:23Oh, my God. She did. I think I have some photos of that. Dude, your dad was right there. I was like, what are we doing here? You know? That's my. No, they're divorced. That was the. That was. Yeah, that's not her husband. that was there oh that was my dad and mom but their divorce got it yeah yeah but i don't know i think he was like you know you know i'll tell you what not to do you know i think he said some stuff like that to me so i think there was like a mix of like energy there but yeah i know and she's an author i admire that i know she just came out with a book right yeah fuck the paul fuck the pauls fuck the pauls yeah great book by the way for um fuck the pauls i would say like mostly um if people have an interest in like fame and navigating it i think it's a good book what effect do you think she had over the years on like did she kind of was she ever like an orchestrator of things or was she just kind of like somebody who was just supporting in the distance like oh because it's interesting how a mom reacts to like i think their son's journey through uh popularity and like because that for a while they're just their son and then they're kind of like a pseudo sibling or something to everybody um in in a way you know yeah i um definitely like supporting from afar um but

1:09:52like more recently she's gotten more involved in like knowing who she is and being like fuck you to these certain people in my life that aren't good so she's become a more of a protector i think at first i was me and my brother were like teaching her um and she's very smart lady but i think it was such a new world for her of social media and so i think uh she she always was giving her 100 percent best effort to help in any way possible and that came across in different ways but i think more recently she's she's become um more of a protector and more opinionated and she knows she has more confidence in her opinions and i think that's been good for both logan and i do you think that you guys as careers have allowed you to see a new side of your mom that you are really that makes you like have even some more unique thoughts about her does that make any sense no 100 % um yeah admire her more or yeah that's what it was is is admiring her more because like I was built for this and destined for it and you don't know if your parents are always on that same wavelength and I think a lot of celebrities and their parents probably don't even get along or talk or are involved.

1:11:26I see a lot of that. And it turns out that she was fucking built for this and she's ready for the fire which is gangster. And I was like, that's my fucking mom. And that's my freaking wife. Sorry. That's my first date. Dude, I'm just saying. Take us to an award show. But yeah, I would take her somewhere nice. Yeah. What restaurant do you think? Oh, I know where I would take her. A place that has a golf course, but we don't play golf. We're just going to go eat there. Nice. Watch the rich people come in. Oh, there's Tom. You know, he's saying shit like that. Leonard. Oh, yes. He has an institutional financial estate.

1:12:12Yeah, there he is right there. Shout out, Leonard. Yeah. He has a tramp stamp on his back, too. don't tell anybody. He got kind of crazy one month in the fucking Hamptons. Oh, fucking Leonard's crazy. Yeah. And I would just let her drink wine and I wouldn't drink any but I would smell her breath every now and then to get hit of it. You know? Just to get the fucking grapes in my nose, boy. How much would you like huff it? Oh, I'd take a good whiff, dude. I would reverse boof it. I would put a straw on her mouth and it just sucked the fucking wine smoke out of her fucking throat. This is getting bad.

1:12:49Dear God. I just ordered a fucking, what am I, some kind of fucking smut somewhere? Bro, I need another whiskey blue raspberry. Can one of you fucking get it for me? Yeah, go get him one, dude. What the fuck? It's in the fucking refrigerator. So, yeah, so, uh. Yeah, there's ice in the fridge. So, so, oh, um. But no, uh, no, I think it's, I've gotten to know her a little bit over the years just by seeing her here and there, and I think her, I think her energy and, I think it's something nice when you get a chance in your life to see your mom in a different way and i think that's what happened yeah and i think that that's it's almost like a beautiful thing in a way you almost get to see just to see somebody grow into something different at some point in their life is really special whether that's and it can be in any way but i think this so so yeah i could really imagine that that's nice no exactly and and like a lot i've noticed uh a lot of people don't change or don't know how to and evolve and they just like get stuck in their same patterns and especially when they're older because if you've been doing something for 40 or 50 years you're gonna like get stuck in that rut and so to like see her change and actually be able to like evolve is beautiful and i i noticed it with my dad as well he's a little bit more behind um but he's doing it and he's doing the work um and that's beautiful that's awesome man i think it's cool like whenever like um as a child you get to be a part of something like that and see that and like i think there's a lot of like kind of like growth and moments there for ourselves and our parents, you know, uh, yeah.

1:14:33Being a son is an interesting responsibility when you realize that it's, um, not just like one of taking in a way. And I don't mean that it just, cause that's how it is when you're, you think it's just like this one way sort of thing. Um, it is like you're, you're like until you're like conscious enough to not take from your parents it really is a one-way relationship and it's the first one one way relationship in your life do you do you have kids or like what's going on no no wife i don't have any kids i'm not dating right now i'm just working on myself and uh so it's been like the last year has been kind of tough with just like um just staying on track and then i realized i was just kind of putting myself like can situate like just things that uh i wasn't like they weren't like all like rungs on the ladder towards my goal you know some of them were fun rungs and things like that but it just wasn't where i needed to be and like some of the sobriety has been a little bit tough over the past year so um but right now i'm doing better than i've done in a long time and uh and so yeah i feel good about that um i need to are it is i need to go especially for you in like your position and all of those things like people it's hard to find the right person that doesn't have the wrong intentions yeah I feel like I'm a decent judge of that kind of stuff I think I'm enjoying kind of not having to date and do things like that the problem is you can't judge it until it's like time because people are good actors these days so So how did you know your girl was the right one for you?

1:16:19I think was it like an experience y 'all had together or like a thing? Just being at the same level, like in terms of wealth or fame or stature, because then you know there's like not games. So yeah, you might have to like find a famous girl. I don't know. I don't know but they also could like understand like yeah what right like like you you go to like a waitress girl today and you're like Theo's like oh I had a podcast with Jake Paul and we talked about blackface and it was fucking insane and it's gonna break the internet and let's see what happens and then she's just like yeah I'm a waitress like do you want a shot like she's not gonna understand the importance of that or you or like what right did i think yeah there could be some that but if she goes well i know what you're gonna have the black and salmon if she said that as a joke then i would know okay maybe this bitch is okay she has at least has a sense of humor so a sense of humor is big for me i do think like yeah there's some things it's like um you also don't want to add discomfort to someone's life.

1:17:39I don't want to add if some of my bullshit are the little things that I'm involved in. I don't want that to mess up somebody's life. That's also why the famous girl would be good because she's already like balls deep. I got to meet one then. I will one of these days when I get back out there. Did you and your father do ayahuasca? Who did it? Yes. yeah I've been there a few times man Aya? Yeah okay and thank God I mean dude I'll even fucking talk to this bitch every now and then once you talk to Ayahuasca dude you look at a house plant way different you're like how are you boys this morning you know huh 10 and 2 you know bro I'm not gonna lie bro I've talked have you talked about this ad nauseum I didn't know if you have have you talked about this so much I didn't even know no no no I'm saying after doing ayahuasca i like grabbed steel sometimes or like aluminum and metal and be like talk to it because it's a living object people don't understand that metal is a living object so that sounds fucking insane but like it's no different than a plant yeah they're atoms moving around and so i i actually talk to the items in my house to like give them better energy like let me let me boost your spirits today guys i know you're a bookshelf but you don't know what you're holding on to you know i'm saying you've got everything you've got uh the crucible right here on your back you've got all these freaking you've got moby dick carrying the bible the seven bibles bridges of madison county bro my bookshelf is tired bro yeah you've got dunkirk on you gotta Talk to it.

1:19:29You have no clue what you're doing. I like that. Yeah, but to boost up your fucking boys who were fucking carrying all your words around. I like that. I boost up everything in my house, bro. Where'd you guys do it at? Did somebody come to you? I've done it like a bunch of times. Okay. Mostly Costa Rica. Ooh. And did your wife go too? Yes. Wow. Oh, yeah, there's a video. And, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. You got the fancy one. I did it right outside of a Popeye's over there off the 101. You just did it here? No, off the 101 in LA. I did it near a neighborhood. You can't do that, bro. You got to, like...

1:20:13Dude, the shit was popping, bro. But it was good. It was good. It was popping. Okay. What was, like, the biggest thing you took away from it then? Like, oh, dude. I, like... I remember, I mean, you went like a deep thing. Yeah. There was a point like, I remember this feeling that I had when I was a kid that maybe if I was a, like, if I was a girl that I would, my parents would love me more. So I was like, there was like this weird, like just questioning of who I was or something. I remember that that was like a crazy thought that I had when I was a kid I mean that's like a comparable thing which goes back to like then they probably probably made you feel compared or some weird shit like I don't know how to psychoanalyze all of that but it was something yeah I just thought like maybe like they don't see me as I am so maybe it was just a thought that as a kid well maybe if I was a girl they would see me But that's kind of a crazy thought that a kid would have.

1:21:25And it sucks. Yeah, so things like that. And you kind of process those. You process for a kid feeling those things. Yep. I think the biggest one for me was self-love. It was like putting the mirror up of look at yourself and how come you don't love yourself sometimes. and in a lot of moments I do, but I think that trickles out into a lot of other areas of life where it can not be good. Like where it turns into ego or where it turns into that kind of stuff? Exactly. Yeah, it's scary. Yep. And just like, yeah, just like even insecurity is a part of self-love. And so I've actually like really worked on it and gotten so much better at it.

1:22:31And I feel secure now. but I came from a place of insecurity but it takes practice to get there and to find that confidence and that love and to know who you are and not give a fuck what anyone thinks because I also was like judged and in public scrutiny and all of these things since I was like 19 so I think that was the biggest thing was self love yeah dude it's funny we were talking about this the other day in a meeting and thanks for sharing that with me we're talking about did your dad say any wild shit while he was in there was he in there fucking caffing he was bro he's like her name was Janet was he just yelling shit in there or whatever bro I literally had to because that's great bro to sit there with your with one of the people that created you and to be on that journey that seems wild to me was it like that or was it not like that it just seemed like it wasn't it wasn't I realized the sweetest thing about my father is that he's a protector.

1:23:40And he's a fucking warrior. And he was so high off of Ayahuasca that he was trying to figure out where his fiance was. And protect her. And he thought that people were trying to attack her. And there was no one there. And he was just like, I need to get, I need to protect. I need to do this. I need to do this. So, um. He's like installing fucking security systems. Literally. Literally. He was, he turned into fucking Secret Service. Um. But. There he is right there, bro. Yeah, there he is, bro. Drinking soup through his head. That got fucking out of his dome, bro. So it's really interesting, though, like.

1:24:28Get a spoon, honky. Sorry. That was my mom driving by just telling me to brush my teeth. So, so. Was his mind blown if he'd never done anything like that? All right. So he had a stroke before this and before ayahuasca. And I've always been into psychedelics because I'm in the sport where you get fucking hit in the head. and there's science around mushrooms creating neurogenesis as well as toad, 5-MeO-DMT. I'm friends with Brian Johnson. He just did it. Yeah.

1:25:14I relate to him in that sense. I've done it like 10 times. And so I basically told him at some point to do it as a science thing um and

1:25:35these things are like actual magic in the world and um people don't understand their significance and how profound they are and how much healing can be done and when you talk to these people from the Cenarion tribe who are like masters in the toad and that's where they like originated it um it cures Parkinson's Alzheimer's all of these things the list goes on and on and on um and it's actually like shielded from there's a reason why it's illegal in the United States because of big pharma and etc. Big pharma sucks dude. We can go down that rabbit hole. They're trying to pass a law right now that they're allowing ibogaine in Tennessee and they need to pass it.

1:26:38It's something all these all these plant medicines need to be approved 100 % now people don't need to be buying them out of a fucking like one of those like skill crane machines or something like that at a pizza hut or whatever you know but it's fucking wild that you could just go to any local place here five minutes away and get fucking double Moscow mule but you can't do something that's actually good for you what does that say about our leaders about pharma about insurance all of these things so and there's there's no one's ever fucking done toad or mushrooms and like done something bad yeah but you've seen hundreds of times where the alcoholic is shooting up a place and killing people and beating his wife so like what the fuck are we doing as a society.

1:27:38It's ass backwards. It's sad.

1:27:45I agree. I think it's awesome that you are such a proponent of that, man, because that's a big thing that's going on right now. I think, when is that bill? Can you look it up for me? The Helping Open Pathways to Effective Treatment Act, HB 2075, is under consideration in the 2025-2026 legislative session. The bill would not legalize Ibogaine for general use. Instead, it would create a state framework for FDA-supervised clinical trials targeting opioid use disorder, co-occurring substance disorders, PTSD, and related brain injury conditions funded via a public-private matching grant structure. I'm a proponent of that.

1:28:20Are you? A thousand percent. Amen. You heard that. Let's fucking vote. Let's fucking vote. Vote for toads. That's it, bro. We love frogs. And toads. Did your relationship with your dad change after it or no? Or was it just kind of another? Okay, so that, I mean, so there's like a really interesting thing that happened to him. When you know the like ayahuasca experts, they've like seen everything. And my dad had a stroke. And you could viscerally see a difference in how he talked and acted. he like wasn't there it was like lights on no one's home like 60 not full-on but it was sad and i was like yo like talk to a bunch of people blah blah let's do ayahuasca so um he basically did it and what the shamans were saying was and what they could feel they're experts at this by the way and it's not bullshit they don't give a fuck bro like they live in the middle of the jungle in peru they were just like i could tell his spirit was cut and his during this experience his spirit came back to him and hell yeah Like since that day He's just been normal again No way Yeah So Noticeably Everyone notices it And everyone was worried before it Like They were like yo Like he's kinda I don't wanna use the R word Right Cause I would never say Read the **** Or f*** But like I don't say it No me either I'll spray paint it on your wall I'll never say it yeah but i'm not saying in it but he was like low-key retarded and well that's not even yeah that's fine it brought him back so yeah and imagine that dude imagine you just somebody rolls into like a learning disabled class which i was in and i was in yeah i was in there for not a long time but i did a little bit of time in there and imagine somebody rolls in there one day and the next day that classroom opens up and kids can be healed.

1:30:54I think there's a lot of healing in this stuff. Related psychedelic evidence right there on, this is on perplexity. DMT, ayahuasca's key active component is under phase one trials for stroke safety and recovery potential with preclinical data indicating brain healing via neuroplasticity. Wow. So this is science, right? And there's a big problem with science. And yes, it's that everything is like documented and like experiment and like measure, measure, measure. And there's a good side of that. But bro, these fucking people have been doing psychedelics for thousands of years and have reported studies human to human.

1:31:40They're not fucking scientists, but they have the human to human conversation of like, yo, this actually worked. Right. And so that's not going to be on fucking perplexity. Well, it's not some gooner in a lab wearing fucking Keds who's fucking doing all this shit, you know. We're talking about real, yeah, people that are in the woods who have been doing, they know what's going on. Exactly. It's crazy how we've gotten so far away from all this bullshit, how we got so far away from all these real healing methods that have been alive for thousands of years. And then we got into this just like bare Monsanto fucking bullshit where we're all just addicted to stuff and it's ruining people's lives.

1:32:20And then now we're getting back out of that. I feel like we're getting back out of that faster than ever, though. Do you feel that? Yeah. I do. I do. I do. Because we trusted our government. We trusted that the EPA and FDA, all these things were taking care of us. But now it's like, fuck, they're making us sick. There's a health care that doesn't want to take care of it. It's like, it's been a road. Yes. And like the best thing is that social media removed the barriers for information knowledge. and anyone can say whatever they want and i find that the truth is like it i don't find i know that the truth is like resonating more so people like understand more about health psychedelics yeah peptides love relationships authenticity there's a reason why like certain celebrities are like falling off is because they're just like oh you're fake as fuck we don't like you um so i think it's a good thing it's a great thing um and it almost goes back to like freedom of speech but like imagine freedom of speech with marketing behind it

1:33:50yeah I think it's like you can hope that we're in a new revolution of some sort that's always a nice hope to have I find dude let's talk about some of these fights dude who had the dumbest trunks on that you fought you thought you're like this fucking guy I'm knocking this guy out just because of the trunks was there anybody who's just like I can't

1:34:20I'm not gonna lie bro Like Ben Askren I fucking love the guy I donated to his Double lung surgery But like bro He just doesn't have any steez Like he's the most like Vanilla like Dumbass white guy who just like Got told what to wear Bro it's I don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo but like bro he looks like a fucking idiot he just wore kind of like um trunks from the um you like you literally just like found him at a local store yeah it's he always had this there was always an energy during that where it seemed like he just kind of woken up earlier you know um and blessings to him he's doing much better now um dude so what about uh mvp you guys have promoted like 30 fights now?

1:35:19Okay. You're teaching me this information. Okay. Thank you. How has that been as a promoter? Has it been different than you thought it would be? What is some of the energy going on with that?

1:35:34Yeah, we came into the game and this was like I saw boxing as like taxi and we were Uber and it was just like so obvious and we operate as like a startup and me and my business partner don't need money. Who, Jiwoo? Is that who it is? I just think it's funny. No, this is Nikisa. He's from Iran.

1:36:10Jiwoo. Jeff's gonna love this shit. He's gonna watch it and be like Oh fuck yeah G-Woonit G-Woonit Yo that's good Jeff I think you should change your Instagram To G-Woonit So Me and Nikisa Have money from other shit And don't need to do it And that's why our motto is always like Fighter first And That's actually like Very important So when you start there where you like fighter first and operate as a startup we like instantly took over and resonated with fighters and are clearly the best to work with and make our fighters the most amount of money and give them the highest percentage of the fights etc um but on top of that if you like just want to talk analytics like coming into the game i have a hundred million followers or something like that wow and the second biggest promoter is dana white with like 30 so i'm like three times bigger than him is that y 'all's biggest competition then is it uh is there another boxing i guess there's zufa there's zufa's new yeah they just started and they're already making like a lot of mistakes and are are quite quite basic um and yeah like you don't want to pay connor ben 15 million dollars to do an easy ass fight against regis um right off rip because your whole UFC model is paying fighters like one third of that max and do you think it sets a tough precedent for them exactly they already fucked up like bad um maybe if they were to like buy us or partner with us they would like have such a better outcome, which I truly believe.

1:38:25Could you see a world where you're a partner? I'm open to it, yeah. Bias. Like, we'll help you guys not be idiots. You would, the amount of money you would spend, like, I don't have an ego, bro. I'll work with anybody. But Dane is a very smart guy. Not smart enough.

1:38:45What makes you say that? Just look at what he's doing. like you don't you don't not pay your fighters bro you like you don't get john jones on the white house card first of all justin gaethje is gonna lose to ilia on the white house card so you have a spaniard beating a white american on the patriotic white house card like okay big mistake first of all second of all why are you not gonna pay john jones do you think it was a financial thing with him or bro this is like one of the most profitable sports organizations in history their their investors have gotten greedy they're in control they um they are looking at the p l's and being like yo like we can just keep pumping this shit and they're not they're not they forgot their heart as a company.

1:39:50That's the problem. And so

1:39:57it's dying. And also MMA is not like a

1:40:05I'm always going to speak the truth and I'm partners with Netflix on an MMA event. Well, I know you guys have that. Do you guys have that event coming up? But MMA hasn't stood the test of time. Because the best people in the sport become wrestlers and they just like hold on. What do you mean? Like CM Punk, you mean? There's a lot of great fighters in the - No, Khabib, Cosmo, like - Oh, they become wrestlers. I've seen like ground game guys. Exactly. Not like WWE guys. Which is boring. No one wants to watch that. There is a level of - So it hasn't stood the test of time. Yeah. Boxing has been around since the 1500s.

1:40:46MMA is 30 years. And it's declining. And also because it's not ran properly and they're becoming greedy. And it's like a super corporate organization where they're signed with Paramount. They have stockholders. It's a part of the WWE. are you manual public company blah blah blah so when they're paying fighters like 15 of the revenue by the way down to 10 percent um the investors are going to be like yeah we're going to make more money is it money 10 percent do they change it it's it's going down so you're just you're assuming that it is the nfl pays their athletes 50 of the revenue got it so if the nfl makes a billion dollars the athletes make 500 million got it in the ufc it's 150 million out of a billion but when you exclude conor mcgregor and john jones from that it becomes like five zero like five percent 50 million out of a billion because they make less you mean the overall gross is less so then the percentage is less yeah because that number factors in the super fights were um i am a ufc fan and i've just enjoyed being an associator there i have so much fun over there it's such an interesting thing i'm you know some of the business side i don't know about but i it does feel like here's what i hear people say the cards have gotten uh not as interesting right because there's more cards but you also hear people say that um like my sponsor was saying this morning he's saying dude i love that i can just turn on paramount and that the ufc is on there every week so i think there's like you know there's different avenues to go down with it and And I think that sports is paramount.

1:42:36Like who has that? Do you have one? I don't know. Yes. Yes. I don't know if I do. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I might. I probably do. I don't. I think I have one, but like, I don't know. That's how it is. Yeah. That's what I mean. So, but I think. Like if they were like gun to head, going to shoot you, log in, probably going to figure out the log in, bro. That's hilarious, dude. That's true. that's a great game show dude yeah

1:43:08logindeath.com alright today we fucking something you pull him in blindfolded he's like motherfucker you got 30 seconds to get into Spotify premium everyone would die he gets to call his wife you get one call but that person can't look it up you bitch I thought you knew this honey Damn it Stephanie You're the one that Wizard 60 what is it You guys are co-promoting the new MMA card that's on Netflix Yeah so that's the whole thing is like Bro why are you laughing Bro look at this This is crazy though bro Was there another opportunity For Ngannou to fight someone else I mean I know that Linz is kind of a new name to a lot of people.

1:44:01Yeah, but he's very fucking good. It's a more dangerous fight for him than... Who do we have as the other opponent? It should be Gunner vs. Bigfoot if y 'all could find him. People would watch that shit. We had a... I forget who the fuck it was. We had a different name. who was a bigger name and easier fight for him so as francis is you know we joke around and fight blah blah marketing but like respect to him for for doing this and um it's a very challenging fight so uh it's gonna be fun and and diaz versus perry like it's just gangster gangster bro we just had uh actually nate diaz on this is before we knew that you were coming on and he was on like it hasn't even come out yet but he did talk about this something um pull up the clip that he had talked about he talked about some of the fight fights between us yeah we talked about a couple of things here let me see what we got in here i'm not fighting for mvp i'm fighting for netflix and i'm finding from real fight incorporated which i'll probably be doing next with netflix anyway real fight entertainment on a thing and show you how to throw a real uh mma fight show i've been in the ufc for 20 years now so i'm like yo i'm gonna do that from real fighting with you You know, I'm not working for a fucking MVP like all these other motherfuckers are.

1:45:45I'm a UFC fighter. I'm working for me, for real fighting, and I'm hunting Jake Paul's motherfucking ass, not taking a fight with a guy who's on the comeback. Man, fuck Connor, we'll fight again when the time is right and it's time to fight, but it's going to be when we're both on the uprise, not when someone's dying out. The whole fighting, even like Paul, I feel like I beat Paul. A lot of people felt that way. But it was his, like, big show. So it's like, okay, all right. But I know from experience I ain't winning no decisions, even if I do. So watch that fight over and read the punch count in your own count without somebody else's.

1:46:24I won that fight too. What do you think there, Jake? And that was Nate.

1:46:36um yeah no i i never say the word i think it's like super offensive um i would never say it um when you see someone that's like it's just hard to like comprehend what they're saying and um i'm gonna take like a business higher level i'm gonna take the high road okay because he technically is working for my company and he's trying to deny it in that clip and I'll just leave it there because I don't care about that I want MMA to grow but yes technically he's literally lying I don't work for him that's fine bro whatever your ego wants I'll bend down to it for now because MMA is going to prosper and you Nate should just not lie and yeah fuck like do you think he's lying about the part about him thinking that he won oh that that's that's

1:48:03I I don't address stupidity like that that's the most bizarre part about it but like i don't have time to address stupidity do you because then you give it more momentum um maybe i'll do it just just this one time but like the judges said i won every single round so if it was like a close fight that would be a different combo but this guy was like easy work lightest puncher I've ever fought is that true or are you just saying that on my mom's life rest in peace strike her down god Nate Diaz is the lightest and worst puncher I've ever fought he's the toughest and he took the most damage but in a sport that's it's not something to brag about.

1:49:04Like I'm the tough bro. People, people, people come up to me and they're like, you're so tough. You took shots from Joshua. I was like, this, I don't want to be complimented like this. Right. I don't want to be tough. That means you're just getting beat up. Yeah. Like the fuck. Yeah. That's a good point, dude. I don't want to be tough, bro. Any boxer is tough sucks. No, I'm joking. But like my coaches told me this early on. They're like, this is not a tough sport. This is a mental sport. Do you feel like you owe Nate or one of the other UFC guys an MMA bout? Does any of that weigh on you sometimes?

1:49:48Yeah, yeah. I want Nate in MMA. That'd be a fucking good bout. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's high on my list of priorities to do that. And what's the toughest barrier to entry to getting that done? Is it just the time it would take to get more prolific in some of that ground game and stuff in jujitsu? No, no, it's just the business side. Got it. He probably wants a certain amount of money to take the risk in losing to me.

1:50:28And yeah, I just don't give a fuck. I have enough money. I got all my shit. So that's why these guys are actual ducks is because you can't hide behind money anymore.

1:50:45So yeah, I think it's going to happen though. And if he beats Perry, then me versus Nate is probably the number one thing on the list. Like above Tommy Fury, above Francis Ngannou, above KSI. Do you think he could beat Perry? I think he will, yeah. I think he'll take him down and submit him.

1:51:16What do you think? that's such a dog fight dude Mike Perry first of all the funny they're two of like really the most beloved outlier guys that like they're just such both unique guys and they kind of like they do things their own way I mean I'm just I'm trying to evade the question what's the program you have with the charity it's the program for the it's for like parents Parents of autistic children giving them like a day off. Yeah, so like that's why this fight is awesome is like their parents are both going to get hella days off.

1:52:04Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't see it, but yeah. So you think they're smart? Like you would classify Nate Diaz and Mike Perry as smart. And by the way, that's secluded from autism. Autistic people are the smartest people in the world. I'm just obviously joking, but do you think they're fucking smart? I think they got the toughest fucking autism that exists. I wish I had that touch gloves, Tism. If they were starting a company, would you invest in it? Come on, bro. That's crazy, bro. That's a crazy thing to act somebody. and during the daytime. Bro, I'm pretty sure it's like six. I think, dude, I would, it depends on what kind of business it was, I think.

1:52:56Oh, yeah. If it were like a dog catching business, fuck yeah, bro. Or brain rejuvenation business. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. I think, but yeah, if it's like, yeah, doing taxes and shit, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Now, if it's just fucking getting your money back from somebody down the street business, then take my money, fella. You got it. I'm in, dude. There's a female... I gotta go. I gotta go. We gotta get done, too. No, no, no. No, we don't. Yeah, we do, dude. Bro, you know how many clips we've pumped out of this shit? I know, dude. We're going to be on Twitter for like nine days straight. It's fucking ridiculous, dude.

1:53:48God. I got to get some fucking help. That's the number one thing I say to myself every day, dude, is I got to get some help. Rousey Carano, what do you feel about this bout? Dude, Carano's been out for a while. Yeah, I think. Was it tough to make that the lead bout? Was there a purpose in that, like a reason behind it? Yeah, we're like proponents for women mostly, like putting them on the forefront um and i genuinely like believe that women's boxing is so entertaining um they're shorter rounds and they just like fucking go at each other and i think they have a chip on their shoulder so it becomes more entertaining than like a 12 round Floyd versus De La Hoya where they're just like fucking tapping each other for 12 rounds and everyone's disappointed so yeah that was part of the purpose and and that's MVPW that was part of a group you guys launched yeah so my comedy's MVP and then we have MVPW which is like women's that side of things And were you searching for your fighters?

1:55:05How were you going to populate this to have good bouts? Like, has that become a concern? Because a lot of people are under UFC contracts. No, it's the opposite. So, like, we have all the best women signed to us. For boxing? Yeah. Okay. I mean, now MMA, I guess, as well. Like, starting in MMA. But mostly boxing. the beautiful thing about it is that we can make the mega fights happen because we know both sides of the party but will they be able to fight in UFC? Will people under your banner be able to fight in UFC or Netflix's thing if they keep this going? No, no, no, no.

1:56:02Yeah, we're like Completely separate from the UFC Got it And a competitor So it's actually like UFC's with Paramount MVP's with Netflix Okay, I got it now Yeah Dang, dude, that's wild, bro Congratulations, man Yeah, thank you Congratulations, dude. It's in, you know, like, watching you is an interesting sport. You know? And I mean that in a lot of, like, really. So that, so it, like, increases your heart rate to watch me? Probably does, but it's okay. It's a sport. I mean, it's just, like, you know, yeah, like, it's, there's admiration because you, you know you kind of you defy the odds or you re you you kind of like i don't know you can i don't know what it is it's interesting and it's it's fun and it's interesting to see a guy who's fighting and is also in the business side i think there's just a lot of stuff to see you be a business guy is uh is it's all interesting dude it's judgmental no i i would um i would agree and I think I wrote like a little stupid fucking thing to put on my Instagram.

1:57:30What, a poem? Yeah. That I think can like summarize me a little bit. I think it's like super fucking gay to talk about it, but You want me to read it? Like we might not put this part in, but like get camera and click. interesting It kind of summarizes what you're saying. Okay. So, life became unrelatable, so it's easy to become hateable. I live in truth, so my views are undebatable. Life's become approvals and payables. Funny how I was the only one who knew I was capable. Now anything in life is available. Only because I became unbreakable. once in a generation beyond occasional send all the pressure please god is protecting me i'm gravitational i hope you don't hate and use it as motivational but honestly this shit is not sustainable or very attainable have to manage it with ivy league occupational Harvard lady over there.

1:58:43I post more content than you, but I'm still untraceable. I hate to be cocky, but at this point, it's educational. This is who the fuck I am. It's not recreational. You probably could, but if we're being honest, you are not capable. So again, that's why I'm hateable. Is he a politician, investor, rapper, boxer? It's unexplainable. and that's why I'm inescapable. So I think that's like what... Dude, I fucking really like that. I think, and you know what? Yes, that's what I was trying to say. Yeah. And it is. And it is, man. And you know the sad part about it is that people are going to clip that and then...

1:59:33But that's why I'm saying it's sad that they're going to clip it and be like, bro, thought he cooked. No, we're not saying that you are what's that guy's called? Ghana or whatever. We're just saying that you explained exactly what I was thinking. And I agree. That's why I brought it up. Otherwise, I wouldn't have. But the sad part is that people are going to clip it and be like But people are also freaking touching their own dicks all the time. So people are disgusting. You don't touch your own dick. Jerking off is gay, dude. You're jerking a dude off. Yeah, it's you. But it's still a dude, bro.

2:00:17Fuck that. Now some chick rolls up with a cock. Maybe I'll help her out. You feel me? BLM, dude. So you love Thailand? Never been. I haven't even looked at it. I haven't even gone there on one of those map zoom in views, like street views or whatever. do uh your brother just had a child do you get competitive with him like do you start to think about that yet or you guys aren't really kicking that can around at the moment because once wife got that gold bro you know i'm saying you could hatch something and sorry that's just something i read recently on a uh on a headstone in memphis so i was just like had something yeah once wife got that gold you could hatch some you know that's just like Damn.

2:01:01Someone else's wife got gold? I don't know. It's pretty rare. No, I just mean somebody might have got a gold grill put in or something. It could mean anything. I've read it. Yeah. You're right. No, it's inspiring. Yeah. It's so inspiring. Has it been interesting to see him be a dad? Like, is it different? He's a fucking loser now. It's so funny. Look, bro, you go to bed at 10 p.m. like he used to be cool and like kick it and like drink and smoke with us and then he just like goes to bed at 10 p.m but honestly bro i'm so happy for him like this is what's needed like he's amazing um and he's a great dad it's just like funny because and again i would never use the word the r word but like when um he's walking down the beach with his um kid and And I'm like, bro, this is my brother.

2:01:55Like, he's fucking retarded. And he's, like, carrying the baby down the fucking beach. And he, like, got it on his shoulder. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going on? It's just funny. But I'm so happy for him. And Esme is, like, the coolest thing in the world. And, yeah, she's, like, 18 months. And I, like, went to hang out with her the other day. And, like, we don't see each other a lot because we're always busy. Logan's traveling. We, like, whatever. But she's looking at me. And I'm, like, saying hi to her. And she goes, Jake. And she says my name for the first time. I was, like, bro. Game over.

2:02:47that's cool I was like I started like getting teary eyed and like it's just the craziest thing ever has it brought your family overall closer together yeah 100 % isn't that amazing yeah it's crazy how something like that when we first had my first niece it like it was like the first time we were a family it felt like in some ways yeah I would agree I think and and Nina by the way is such a great mom she's doing such a great job and she um like sends videos and pictures to us every day oh that's sweet of her and so like shout out to nina for for fucking being amazing on that set of things yeah it's nice it keeps you involved makes you feel like a part of it that's important yep and they do this thing where it's like outfit of the day and like uh esme like loves it and she like knows even though she can't talk really she like puts on her outfit and then nina like films her coming out of the room with the outfit and like hypes her up and then esme like loves it and is like she like knows that it's like some important moment um so it's really fucking beautiful like little shit like that yeah stuff like that yeah stuff like that that makes you feel kind of connected.

2:04:15It's awesome. Shout out to Nina. That's beautiful. And congratulations to them. It is exciting. That baby looks so happy, huh? Happiest baby ever, I think. Really? Bro. That's the blessing. I get these videos every day and she's just like, happiness maxing. Dude, when you get some cap-ass baby, that shit's fucking trash. Honestly, like, that's the problem is you can't return it. I know. You gotta fucking You remodel that bitch. There's no coupon. Put some fucking Fendi on that bitch or something. You got to do something, bro. Because they got some cap-ass children out there. They got to redo the genetics type shit.

2:04:57Blessings to them. Man, Jake, thanks for coming and hanging out, dude. Yep. I appreciate it, bro. I've just enjoyed getting to talk to you. This is the most you and I have ever talked. And I think it's like, yeah, you just get a different concept of people. It's hard to know people until you talk to them. Dude, Brian Johnson, I thought that that guy was going to be like, he was going to show up like in bubble wrap or something fucking drinking his own cum or something bro bro sorry you know he's had a little wait but by the way what i'm saying is dude he was a he was like just as it just like it's just interesting until you get to know somebody you're right we live in this place where we assume things based on what we see it's all it's all uh interesting and some of it's our some of it's our fault and some of it is a place of where we are It's interesting, though.

2:05:43You know, I killed him the other day. Did you really? Yeah, I killed him. He'll be back. Oh, you put him to sleep? I put him to sleep. Wow, he's supposed to go to bed at 4.30 p.m. anyway. Yeah, I killed him. When was this? Hell, yeah. Bro, this dude is up for anything, bro. No, no, no. Like, he's dead. Oh, damn. Okay. Well, I don't know So like I kind of fucked up The don't die movement But like he's such a great guy But I had to kill him Hey bro I kind of feel ya You know he is that neighbor that's out in the front yard Fucking boiling his own blood And shit You know that can fucking I love that guy He's a genius but like Bro I'm Jake Paul I had to go viral.

2:06:38Oh, yeah, bro. So I had to kill him. Dude, yeah. It's for the game. Yeah. See that shit for sure, dude. RIP Brian Johnson, bro. Yeah. See you at the crossroads, homie gang. Thanks, Jake. Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take