#651 - Ella Langley

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26:14My mom's from Michigan, like I said, so she just kind of never really cared about that stuff. My dad was an Auburn fan, but yeah. That's kind of our football thing. It's Alabama or Auburn. Yeah. There's no NFL team in Alabama, so. Yeah. And does your folks, your folks are still together? Hmm. Yeah. Yes, they are. And do you think, like, what makes you laugh about that? It's been a wild ride, but I don't know. But they haven't given up? Nope. perseverance. Pretty cool. It is really cool. It's really cool to see how they are now. Because I think there were a lot of years we were all like, y 'all sure you like each other, you know?

26:52Yeah. But they did. They really stuck it out. God. Was there like a time when your parents were like, that they always say like, oh, well, we knew when this happened that she was going to be a, do they have that kind of thing, you know? We're like, we knew when she, you know. My grandparents on my dad's side pretty much raised me at their house. I lived over there. My grandpa could play anything by ear. They were a lot older. My grandma was 45 when she had my dad. Oh, wow. Yeah. But I was like the first girl in the family, and I started to match pitch with her as a baby. And so she figured out I could sing, and she just like singing was her thing.

27:33And my grandpa could, like I said, play any instrument by ear. And so at their house, that's all we did. You was a little baby bird, huh? Oh, yeah. That's all we did. And they were like, this is what she's going to do. And so, yeah, that's my grandpa right there. And they just put you out on the windowsill out there. I sang at church a lot. I learned how to read from singing hymnals. But, yeah, I mean, all I did, and I really just, the whole time, like my whole family, we all just were like, this is what she's going to do. They just knew it. The whole time. Was there a scary point for you, like when you kind of like got a little bit spooked?

28:07I remember whenever I met you, one thing I do remember you saying is that I just knew that this is what I was doing, right? I was so determined. And I've talked to like Trey Lewis. I know you and him are friends. And he mentioned that, right? Whenever I ran into him one night, we were watching your show at the Knitting Factory maybe. Someplace, I can't remember. It might have been the Bluebird or Threes. I don't know. I'm terrible at remembering these. It was a musical place. and he said she's just always been so determined, right? Was there a part though when you like, even your own determination came up against like, this just feels like it's going to be tougher than I thought or I don't know if this is the way or did it never get to that point for you?

28:55I think I always knew it was going to be tough. I mean, how many people move to this town in a day to do this job? I don't know. there's just it's scary all the time because i love it it's truly a part of who i am like my whole life i've done it and wanted to do it and thought about it every day like daydreamed every time i'm in the car i mean hours and hours alone driving from gigs um like dreaming about what just doing this literally doing what i'm doing like playing on stages and writing songs and getting to do this craft for a living you know um and i just feel like not everything always works out for me in my life and so i like to leave like very little room for error you know and so i think like just keeping my head down and i'm definitely my toughest critic you know like when i watch something i'm never like oh yeah i crush that never ever very rarely do i walk off stage and i'm like i was amazing out there i'm always just like dude i was what was that shit that i just said that was so what the fuck is wrong with me like why would i say that well Well, it must be crazy because you seem like such a like a like kind of like almost say you'll say whatever.

30:07You kind of save your. I do. That's the thing. And then to be such a tough critic of that person is that's a lot of that's a lot of extra stress. It feels like. Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting better at it for sure. Yeah. It's weird. And I'm sure you understand this, like looking at yourself through the eyes of others. Like no one should know this many thoughts about themselves. Like when everyone's like, what superpower do you want? I've never understood when people are like, I want to be able to read minds. I'm like, fuck that. I do not want to know what somebody's thinking. Because half these people, I wouldn't either, dude, especially if you're at, like, someplace and everybody's just a damn pervert or something, you know?

30:42Oh, yeah. And that would be most of it. Oh, no way, man. No way. Even if you're at, like, even if you're just at a dang Golden Corral, no matter where you are, everybody is like, I bet you would read minds. My dad loves a Golden Corral or a Shonies. Dude, my stepdad, he was in one of the wars. and um he would dude after they would go to like the golden crowd whatever was like chinese corral or something or like um the yellow bin or whatever it was called uh he would sit he would sit my mom in the car and then he would go back in and apologize for fighting these who we thought were like the same ethnicity people when he was in like iwo jima or something like that he'd go back in and apologize every time yeah he would go back in and just kind of say you know give his peace you know and it was like this moment that he kind of had you know where and i think it's probably like that for some people that's like they probably went and fought in a war and then the only people they ever saw from that culture again was that like a when if a small restaurant popped up in their town 40 years later that's got to be crazy yeah they all i don't know i can't imagine that yeah i'm very interested in that that's one of my favorite things to read about is historical fiction.

31:55Yeah? You watch any of those war movies? Yeah, my dad loves a war movie. Jarheads. I don't know how many times that's been on in our living room. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude, my uncle even has the soundtrack to Jarheads. I'm like, who has the soundtrack to this shit? On CD or what? I think it might be. He said it was Blu-ray. He went all in on Blu-ray. Yeah. And he lost a lot. Yeah. But yeah, dude, I like some of those war movies. I think because they just make you feel something, you know? Yeah. Feels like you're learning a little. Feels like you're learning a little, but also, yeah. And it makes you feel something.

32:30I like something if there's a little bit of loss in something, I like that shit. Yeah. Keeps your attention. I like something that's got a little bit of loss in it. Some of your music, and probably a decent amount of it, to me, seems like it's like about kind of like wanting love or hoping for love, but not like kind of being able to make it work or – I'm trying to think what I'm trying to say. I think you're doing great. That was a good question so far. They are? Yeah. Thanks, dude. Yeah, I think I just get – You're really good. Sometimes I get worried or not. I don't know. I mean, I get nervous.

33:11I was so nervous before I came in here today. Were you? So nervous, yes. Why? What do you mean? You're the most confident person there is. I don't know. You are, you know? Well, I mean, you got to put on the suit. That's true. And the rest of you will show up. That's something that I told you I learned in Southern Baptist in a small town is you learn to put on a face a little bit. You know what I mean? You can't let everyone know everything that's going on all the time. But also it's like I run out of the ability to do that. We get burned out of it. Yeah, and I just, that's been something I've had to work really hard on is the mental of this game.

33:47And I knew the whole time that would be the toughest thing for me. Really? Yeah. Well, you can't pin yourself to the way somebody else operates. That's something that I've done over the years. Like, if they can do it, I can do it. I'm not the same person as them, right? And our paths aren't the same. Yeah. And I mean, I've floored it for 200 miles when I had nothing in the tank. Well, I think it's because you are similar in the way where you're like, you kind of fly through life by the seat of your pants. You know what I mean? And it's like you're just following your gut on what you should do with your life.

34:20And instead of like, you know, if you go to school to be a doctor, like, you know, you do this many years of school to go and you're going to do this and this. We have no idea how this is going to go. Every single day is different. Every single day something could happen that could change our lives for the best or the worst, and you just never know. Yeah. And so I think like you you learn this skill to. You know, watch others in the way where you learn, you know, and I think in the beginning it pushed me. I would always like compare my work ethic to Lainey was a great one for me, you know. Yeah.

34:55But I don't know how she's superhuman. I don't know how she does what she does. But yeah, I'm different than that. I have to go be in my house and recharge. Recharge. Rest. Yeah. Take time. Same. I got to do. I mean, I'm getting dang. IVs. I'm petting animals for peace or whatever. They have this. Yeah. IVs are good. They got a peace petting place that's out there, and you go pet those horses for peace or whatever. I just got some horses. Did you? Yeah. God. I'm thinking about getting a Doberman. It's big, but. Yeah. It's nothing like that. If you came in riding a Doberman, it was big enough to do that.

35:31It's like you found Clifford. but he's a Doberman this time. And Ernest is on the other one, dude. Yeah, yeah. But he's actually on Clifford. Yeah. And he's dressed like... He has his grill in for sure. There's like a hundred shades of Ernest. That's the crazy... There's nobody who has like... is such a chameleon, I think, in humanity as Ernest. Yeah, what a guy. Oh, my question. So I feel like a lot of your songs are about wanting to find a love or connect with love but also like about like wanting independence, you know? Do you feel like you have like commitment issues when it comes to that kind of stuff?

36:09Or do you feel like some of your songs stem from that sort of thing? Or like, do you find like a common like root for some of your purpose in your music? You know, I think that's the thing that sometimes people think about too much, honestly, where it's like, what is the purpose to everything? What is the finished product? I don't know. I'm only 26. Yeah. It's like I'm just writing about – I'm not going in the room thinking, okay, I need an up-tempo song today, and I need it to be perfect for radio, or I need to write this type of acoustic thing. I'm going in there and just writing songs. Whatever comes out that day comes out.

36:52you know and I'm really big on not forcing um not forcing you know just if I feel like I'm in there and I'm not having fun I'm like why are we doing this I somehow got to do the job I've always wanted to do no way I'm not gonna let it be fun when we're sitting in here writing these songs you know um so yeah I don't know just sometimes like I'll have a title that I really want to write or someone in the room will say something and then it's just like if all of you click on that title like you got to chase it so yeah i mean and obviously i mean me being 26 uh and not married like i've been dating you know i've been trying to figure that portion of my life out too yeah which is complicated when you have pretty much given your everything to this one thing you know oh yeah i mean that's yeah i can relate to that i spend so much so much time I'm working that, yeah, it's like, this was my first love.

37:50I liked work the most. And because work was reliable, it's like I knew what I got in, what I put into this, I'm going to get out of this one way or the other. And I'll know if it's fair or not. I'll know if it's a fair amount because I'll know how much I put in. That part of myself, I can't lie to. So it's like, I'll know. And it's an even. It'll be even. It may not be exactly what I want, but it'll be fair. But you know you gave it your all. Yes, and to me, I know, and so I know I will expect a certain return, and there's not somebody else there that, like, when it's a human, for me, it's like, that's just too, it's like whenever you first learn to ride that bike and you're doing that or whatever, you know what I'm saying?

38:34And then you forget that, like, you're, like, turning the handlebars like this. You think they're the pedals, and you just hit them. If this starts happening, you're going down. You're going down. That's the scariest feeling ever. The worst, yeah. Oh, so many scars from asphalt. And then you hit the neighbor's gate or whatever, and somebody just called you like a queer, yelled something like that or something, you know? That's the worst I hate when that news happens. Yeah, and it's your dad driving by. It's definitely your dad. It's definitely my dad. And you haven't even seen him in like two years, and you're like, this is how he shows up?

39:04Yeah. But yeah, that's something I think about knowing what you're going to, like, what you put in and what you're going to get out. Do you feel like, because now you've kind of hit this level of popularity that's a little bit different. And that's kind of scary, right? Yeah. I mean, it's cool. There's a lot of great things. But that, to me, that feels interesting because you kind of like, you almost can't put it back in the tube in a way. It's like, you know, like you can't like, once you kind of cross over a certain like threshold of like people knowing you, you kind of can't like, you know, your life can change and maybe, you know, people come and go in popularity.

39:46but you kind of can't go back to not being someone that wasn't known. I think that's another one of the hardest parts for me. And it's, I think it's just people treating you differently. Yeah. I just, it's weird when somebody comes up and they're just like, it makes sense to me because if I were to see Stevie Nicks in the grocery store, like I would be a little like, you know. Yeah. But it's weird when it's yourself, you know, like someone's coming up to you and they're like oh my god i'm gonna throw up on your shoes you're like whoa like yeah i am so weird like just you know immediately try to like level myself in a way but um yeah that's an odd part but it is cool i'm starting to i'm getting past the stage of like what like because it was so in the beginning so new like it was weird when somebody knew who i was or when i'm sitting at the table out to eat with friends or family and somebody's like hey can i get seven selfies with you and i'm like have like a half a meatball in my mouth i'm like bro that's crazy um or you haven't even washed up or you just don't even feel like a certain bathroom have you ever had one to ask you is someone in the bathroom you're like bro no no and then if you say no i've had a girl i was making my whole band do this ab workout routine we were in p fitness somewhere around the world and uh this girl comes up to me mid crunch she's like can i have a picture and then I like it was in the beginning and now I would be like probably not right now yeah I'll sign whatever you know what I mean just pick pick better time but oh yeah in the beginning you'll give it all you'll give apps you'll but then I get up to take the picture with her and she just like no no I just want to take one of you you ever get that when they're like when I take one of you and you're like I was like no no no if I'm sweating this you are yeah so you're just what some kind of pervert or whatever you're just making a time capsule or something you don't I'm saying you're just capturing me to keep me.

41:37No, I just want to take one of you. Yeah, I'm not doing all that. What's your pose if someone would take one of you? I'll tell you a funny story. I can't. Oh, I'll tell them no. If somebody's like, I just want to take one of you. Yeah, you're like, no. I'm like, you get over here, you little urch, and you're getting in this bitch with me. If I have to stand here and look like shit, you do too. That's what I said. Yeah. Dude, a couple, probably like a year and a half ago, I started to have like, because we would do meet and greets after every shows. And maybe some of this sounds like kind of woe is me, like popularity talk.

42:10And I'm not meaning that. I'm grateful that people come out to shows. And I've been to a couple of your shows, and I'm excited to go to more of them. I'm excited to come to that one in Tuscaloosa where you and Morgan are playing together. And then I know you have your own tour and your new album that's going to come out.

42:29But I couldn't smile anymore. the muscles in my mouth oh yes yes and then it got to the point where I just didn't even believe it anymore my mouth had just there was some disconnection between like my true feelings and a smile because these were all like kind of put on smiles and some of them are real but you know you're just like smile you know just smile cheese that type of thing so I had to start doing this so in all my that's how that started? yes so in all my pictures I was like I have to make another face. And this on me, like, it looks a little too, like, people are going to get scared or the kids are going to kind of be scared a little bit.

43:11I think that's kind of nice. So I'll do like, you know, like. Just anything? Yeah, because this just started. Yeah, that, that. See? Yeah. But just the, the close mouth smile was nice. Well, no, no. That was different. You didn't do it the same that time. Let me try one more time. Yeah. Well, no Try one more time But don't squint your lips so much Let them loose Start from the side What's happening? Nothing much Yeah, that right there Take a picture of that Practice You're an artist, you're a conductor She's a conductor Yeah, I remember the first time I was like I didn't know your popularity The first time I met you And I remember I said something like, man, Lainey really does such a great job of controlling the stage because I was kind of complimenting her because she really does.

44:09And you were, I can't remember what you said, but it was something like, I don't know if I said like something like. No, you were like, you should try running around the stage like that or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I was like, first of all, you ain't never ever been to a show. I know. To show up and be judgmental like that. Yeah. And then that, yeah. I think I was just nervous I kind of move around a little bit I've thought about that moment multiple times because I'm like should I move around more like is that like has you seen things that I should do like no you should come to rehearsals and let me know I think I was just nervous and I probably didn't know what to say and it was a woman and so I was just trying to say something and maybe it wasn't yeah I just didn't do the best supportive job probably it panned out but yeah I've seen it since and I'm not even going to weigh in anymore you're obviously no I really like it No, it really made me think extra hard about that.

45:02I was like, damn, Theo thinks I'm lazy on stage. No, I didn't think lazy. I didn't know. I had no idea. A little lazy? No. I can't. She runs. I don't know how she does it. She does the whole spin thing. Now, she does a lot. I told you she is superhuman. She does a whole, like, fantasia. Almost like that, like. Yeah. Yeah, she does. When she does that spin thing. Oh, yeah. I would fall down. 100%. just swinging that donkey around. I'm like, what is even going on out here? She has got it. Yeah, that's probably what it is. I ain't got no balance like that. You know what I mean? I ain't evened out, you know?

45:38She's got them ballast tanks on her, you know? She's like set up to go. Oh, she's a pontoon, I'll tell you that. Yeah, she's locked in. Yes, she's locked in. But no, what a great person to learn from and be around. And even just to watch the things that she does and just to notice all those things, like how is she able to engage with people so much, you know? I don't know how Jelly Roll did it Jelly Roll got burnt out though But he got burnt out I think it happens to everybody It'll get you No one's actually Doing it all Everyone gets burnt out Was there a moment where you had to take a step back Take a vacation What do you do for that sort of thing Have you learned to incorporate that into things Because you're already back out here You're going to go on tour again Yeah I'm still figuring it out I think my team is figuring out a little better how to schedule in the time that's needed.

46:30But when you're in this boom moment, it's hard to say no. I mean, you're saying no to stuff that I'm like, I do kind of want to do that. But it's like, you know, I'm thinking of things six months down the road. I'm like, I'll be able to do that. And then I get there. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, I'm dying. Why did I do that? What am I doing in this lemonade drinking contest? Yeah, but then I'm like, if I turn it down, you know, sometimes I'm like, come on. You can't. What's wrong with you? You can't do that? you're going to be some people would kill to be playing that you know and then i have that whole thing so at last year um it just like i said i think the the mental game for me is definitely the hardest part of this job like i can do the gigs i can do the shows i can do that and i don't know the the burnout i guess like thinking you can work through it i'll fight through it i'll figure it out yeah and i i mean lord we we toured pretty much minus a couple weeks here and there from 2022 to 2025 you know and i mean hot and heavy most of that was in a van you know and then one bus and we're all packed on there and it was still like it just happened so fast so it's like we're still doing these things but these things are happening and so everyone from the outside is like man that's pretty nice and you're like well you know we're still getting there.

47:48We're still doing our baths. Yeah. And a van, people don't get even enough credit for even being in a damn van. Somebody asked me the other day, they're like, do you miss that? I'm like, hell no, I don't miss that. I think people should get a tax credit for being in a damn van, dude. We did years of that. If I see a van pull up any van and somebody gets out of the back of it, yeah, I start clapping immediately. Immediately. I don't care what they're doing. I don't care if they are, you know, very religious and that's, you know, when the side door's broken or whatever, or they are just a big family?

48:19I always wondered what people thought we were traveling around when they'd see us get out at a gas station. And it was just like me, my photographer, Kaylee, and a whole bunch of tattooed guys just crawling out of a van, looking disheveled, smelling like Doritos probably. Oh yeah. And whiskey. Doritos are good at over 50 miles an hour in a day. Oh yeah. I lived off some gas station food for years taquitos from the gas station they're good they're good in the moment yeah but some of my problem is if you i'll get a bag and then i'll i'll go get them in the middle of the night and get more of them yeah or you ever get a crunchy one where it just ruined the whole thing it's like uh-uh the taquitos yeah i like them or a hot dog oh hot dogs are good but they're just sometimes they don't they don't honestly tell you how long they've been on that twirler out there on the little riverboat thing.

49:11They just put them back out there every so often. What is that? They put a bunch of hair curlers together and started just grilling them bitches. Who knows what kind of meat is really in there? There's not meat in there. What are you talking about? Dude, this is some, this ain't no meat, bro. I don't wonder. I have a lady that's like doing all my health stuff. You don't think so? The buffalo chicken, you don't think that is? I bet there ain't a half percent of meat in there, baby. This is meatless. They should just say something warm on the outside of it. But yeah, when you get those Hunt Brothers pizzas, those little slices.

49:46Oh, the breakfast one? Yeah. That's what I grew up on. On Hunt Brothers? Yeah. I think it's Hunt Brothers. Is there an S at the end of it? Was there more than one? There you go, girl. Hunt Brothers. I've been saying it wrong a whole time. Hunt Brothers. But that's what it is. That's kind of Southern stuff. That's how they say it. Have you seen the Country Hoodlums people? Have you seen those Instagram? Pull them up dude if you can. I put them on a page the other day The what on my links page This is the kind of place I grew up. I'll show you right here. Oh, I can't wait to see this. This is like our street

50:24What you doing Christy I knew something about me on Facebook life. I knew his shit when he was calling me five minutes later. I'm about to come get him. Well, Christy, he loves, Glass loves those golf clubs. Man, you fucking shit. Glass loved those golf clubs. This the kind of shit was going on on our street. No, no, you for real? No. And you know what he did, probably. Oh, yeah. he done fooled around and he about to find out

51:03that's the kind of shit we need more of I think but yeah this is just the kind of have you ever seen them country hoodlums oh man this is like a whole thing they have probably like two or three hundred clips now they put up clips every day and it's just like people living their lives oh oh like it's real life people Yeah, and this is the one earned. People always say this guy or him and earned seem like each other. No, go hit that top left one. Keep them coming. Miss Janet? He just got baptized, actually. Let's do it. Hey, Jen. And I'll say this, the women are the people they hold together in this group.

51:45Usually are. Yeah, but that's kind of, I feel like that's kind of enough, man. you know about four years ago i was jogging somewhere and it was a pretty good area it was all right i don't know yeah there's some couple halfway houses but i was going for a jog and i saw a snail out there and he was trying his best but you know they don't even have feet but they're still going forward they're you know so i picked that snail up and i moved him i moved him probably 19 inches brother saved him a month of travel i'd consider that a power move just like how hiring morgan and morgan is a power move morgan and morgan is america's largest injury law firm they have over 100 offices nationwide and more than 1 000 lawyers With over$30 billion recovered for over 500 ,000 clients, Morgan & Morgan has a proven track record of fighting to get you full and fair compensation.

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53:39How big can you make your own ice cream cone? Make it tall, baby. Make it long. You like it long? Shoney's was something else, dude. And they would give away these stuffed animals up front. And the sewing on them was real bad. By the time you got them bitches to the car, they was more of a... They looked... They were starting to give out a little. Did you go to IHOP? We went to IHOP, but... Waffle House? We went to Waffle House. yeah dude at our Waffle House they had like it was like our town was like at the end of like the longest bridge in the world for a while anyway and then they built a different one but then that one got torn down and so we were back anyway they had a um they had a uh so the people that would get DUIs on there at night or DWIs at night the police officers would just drop them off at the Waffle House they wouldn't arrest them they just take them down there and drop them off yeah it's really cool I'm just like hey stay here and sober up so when you as a kid you just running around, you could just pop in there and just hang, you'd be hanging out with the drunks and eating with all these cool drunks and shit.

54:39I think that's a lot of Waffle Houses late at night. Yeah. Ours was too. It's kind of like a little mini rehab. Somebody smoking cig outside, one of the cooks, you know. Oh, definitely. I'll be in, baby. Yeah, yeah. Or dude, the best is the white guy that can't even blink his eyes, so he's so geeked up and he's just fucking making eggs, boy. Dude, so many, so many things. Oh, he'll just rip an omelet out of a chicken's ass. That dude's ready. And they're all yelling at him. Yes. The best are the fights in there when they start fighting. It's so closed environment in there when they do the fights.

55:09I don't like being in the cage. They do the fights. So you've seen them? Yeah. It's like I don't like being in the cage. I want to be outside of the cage. If they lock the door. Well, that's how we sit on this side of the bar and they're on that side. Oh, that's, yeah. Oh, you mean the employees fighting? Yeah. I don't like. Just random ones. I like to go to Waffle House and watch fights. Yeah. Well, dude, the one in Baton Rouge used to do a, Look up Valentine's Day, Waffle House, Baton Rouge. They did a special thing. Did they do it at other ones you know about? Yeah, like the decorations. Yeah, they would decorate it and you could make a reservation.

55:42Yes, where they put like a white tablecloth. Yes. That? It's romantic. I would really like that. Waffle House for Valentine's Day, 2026, romantic and affordable. Let me read up on that a touch. Mm-hmm. Because I know my sister's fiance took her to this. let's be honest on every valentine's date needs candles tuxedos and stress many couples now choose waffle house for valentine's day because it feels real relaxed and easy on the wallet if you've been wondering whether it's actually worth trying you're not alone let's walk through what experience is like and how to make it special I like that Heart shaped hash browns You kidding me?

56:28You know they have that? Mm-mm Steak and eggs with extra sides to share I think I've been to Waffle House on New Year's Day For the past like five years Oh God Maybe even six Yeah? Yeah That's beautiful They used to have like a badge Or like a recurring partner system Chocolate pie slices And strawberry milkshakes Served as a simple date night drink A steak from a Waffle House Hell yeah. Just doing it up. Dude, I met a woman off the internet once, and she was from another country. She'd never been to a Waffle House, and I took her to one, and she loved it. That's one of my red flags. The guy's like, let's go to Waffle House early in the morning.

57:09He's like, no. He says no? Let's go to Cracker Barrel. I feel like Waffle House over Cracker Barrel. I don't know. I don't know. It depends on if I want pancakes. I don't know. A lot of these pancakes these days are too hot. They're too fluffy and fat for me. I like that bitch. Like, it's like somebody already tried to eat it, and it said, hell no. I like that thing tough. I like a pancake. What does that look like? Just a pancake. I like that bitch. Flat? Yeah, flat, kind of burnt. I don't like that big fluffy. It looks like part of a piece of, like an actual part of a layer of cake. I think that's a flapjack.

57:43Yeah, it could be. What is a flapjack? Bring it up because, yeah, people are wandering around. People are eating hot cake. What is the difference between pancake and flapjack? People were eating all of them, Ella. I don't know. A British flapjack is a simple, chewy, and only baked bar made by melting butter. No. Don't even pull up with that shit. I'll burn your damn golf clubs if you pull that shit up again. It's not that bar thing. No, it's not. It is a... I like that... Now, some people came out with something... Here we go. A flapjack is a baked oat bar. This isn't it, man. Yeah, I think it is the oat bar.

58:19Well, then I've been getting something else. I call it a flapjack. I like that thing that's real, just kind of a little more flimsy, kind of. It looks like it'll fucking slap your ass if you're walking by. You know what I'm talking about? It would make the sound. Yeah. Finally, your brother made a sound, so he's having a good time. And I'll tell you something. I don't love a ton of syrup. I like a fair amount, but I don't like too much. I love it. Do you like condiments and stuff like that? Are you a condiment person? Sauce. Yeah? Anything. I love it. You ever had that Zit Zaki sauce? bring it up.

58:49Yeah. You've had it? The Zach sauce? No, Zitzaki. Bring it up. No, no. I've never heard of that. Tzatziki? Don't even fucking tell me that's how y 'all spell. Bro, that's... Tzatziki. What did you just say? Zachariah sauce? I said Levitians 413. That's what I said, dude. I said Copernicus 12-6. Yeah, I've had that sauce before. Yeah, people say... Say it again.

59:23Zatziki. I want that Zatziki, baby. Yeah. People love that Zatziki. Now, what I will say is this. I do like it. How do you prefer it? Zatziki? Yeah. Just straight up in the little... With the little bread thing or... Oh, I'll take it with a P to use these. I'll have it, but I'll have a little... I mean, I've never taken one and drank in one or whatever. Like my sister used to steal all those little coffee creamers from the freaking place. My stepdad would take us and she would drink them in her bed at night. All those little. Dude, the little ones. The hazelnut. That cannot be good. That sleepy little bitch.

59:58That cannot be good for your gut. That sleepy little bitch would fucking finish off six of those and wondering why she's having nightmares. Because you're drinking damn stolen milk. Okay. I don't understand how those stay good out for so long. I don't ever understand. And why can condiments stay on the tables at restaurants for so long, but they can at the house? Yeah. I got a lot of questions. But no, they used to put them, they used to put the creamers on a thing of ice. In some places that I think still have respect. They still do, yeah. But some of them, those hazelnut ones, those are bad for you.

1:00:29They'll just give it to you in a coffee mug. They'll just hand it to you. Yeah. It's like piling them in a coffee mug and hand it to you. Oh, yeah. Somebody would just stack them in like that. but my sister would have six or 11 of them bitches in there complaining she's got an upset stomach. Bitch, of course you do. She's probably going to have the upset stomach for the rest of her life due to that. And she already had a damn liver transplant. You ain't getting nothing else. Mom got her that when we were kids. What did you get? I didn't get shit, dude. I remember I got roller skates that were way too big for me.

1:01:01What were you like? What did you do? Me? I was pretty good, I guess. I don't know. I was kind of a, I like to do my own thing. I just like to hitchhike and just have angry thoughts. I think a lot as a kid. What did you do to like play sports or? Yeah, I played basketball. What did I like to do? I like to be on my bike when I was a kid. My dad was super old. So we was always like messing with him and shit. My dad was like, my dad was 70 when I was born. So he was an old guy. Yeah, he was old. and my brother used to come in the room. I've told this before. My brother would come in the room and he'd be like, dad's dead.

1:01:40And I'd be like, what? He'd be like, yep, go in there. Go in there. He's dead. And I'd go in there and he wouldn't be dead. Yeah. How many times did that happen? Oh, well then this is how we started to flip after a while because he'd be like, dad's dead. And I'd be like, he freaking better be dead. Or you're dead. Or I'm going to whip your ass. Yeah. So it got to the point where you're like, hope like if dad's alive, somebody's getting their ass beat. So which is a crazy concept to have. You have to go in there and check one more time. Yeah, when your dad is barely alive. You just go in there kind of pissed off like this.

1:02:13There's three pictures. I mean, look at the top. Top four actually are all me. Zoom in on all of those. God, that looks good. That one's me. No, it ain't. Yup. No, it's not. Well. Is it really? We had some tough years, yeah. I mean, obviously bring that kid back up. Dude, that is not you. We had some damn tough years. What's going on with that little thing on the side? Oh, honey, that's a fade, girl. That's a one into a 19. Have you ever seen that cut? That's crazy. It's like a bowl cut with like a weird shaped bowl. That's a Christian cut right there. Yeah. Who cut your hair growing up, Ella Langley?

1:02:58All kinds of people. I have a bad tendency to cut my own hair. Yeah. Yeah. I like that best. I really, there's something about it. Why do you do that and why have you enjoyed that? I don't know. Because it doesn't always go, most of the time it goes bad. That's how I got bangs in the first place. I stopped, I was wearing a cowboy hat for a while. And then I took it off because it was windy one show and it was pissing me off. I decided, you know, I'm going to take it off. And I liked how my bangs like were kind of around my face. and like 20 minutes before I walked out on stage, I decided to cut my fringe a little bit and it was so bad.

1:03:35There was like one piece right here and I was shooting the cover art for my first record that next week and Kaylee was like, I hate you. At least she was honest with you. So I had to get, I just told her, full send it with the bangs. Yep. And now you're in. I don't think I can ever change it. Yeah, you love it that much, huh? It changed my life a little bit. Really? Yeah. I would say I mean I don't know the bang thing is that I think it's the music well yeah but yeah I mean well maybe a little bit the music but mainly the bangs the bangs are nice you know what's funny is there's a I think there's there's a like a What's it called?

1:04:16Like a big poster board in the air or whatever? I don't know what you're referencing right now. It looks crazy. There's like a billboard over on Hillsborough Pike, and I thought it was you on it. I think I know what board you're talking about. Dude, here's a funny thing. I'd go buy it sometimes, and I'd always just rattle off something or sing a couple of your lyrics to it. And then somebody told me it's not you. It's not. but I know what you're talking about and what do you mean you'd sing a couple lyrics to it? I would just rattle off something. Just to be like, what's up? Yeah, there's Ella just seeing how she's doing.

1:04:52Oh, she's still high and mighty up on that billboard up there. And I think it's for an earring company, I said with her fancy earrings or whatever. Big earrings too. I mean, this lady had damn bird cages hanging off her head over there. Nope, wasn't me. It wasn't you though. Wish it was. God, yeah. Yeah, I'd have gotten to spend more time with you. So me too, it would have been nice, I think. at school, sometimes we ask about Valentine's Day. Did you have a thing at school where you had Valentine's at school, or was y 'all school too small to even give a Valentine because other people's feelings could really get hurt in that sort of closed environment?

1:05:26No, we still had Valentine's Day. God. Yeah, we still did. It did. Every feeling did get hurt. If there's nine kids in my class and there's Valentine's Day, dude, I couldn't cut that. I'll never forget this kid. He was in our class. His name was Freddie. and he brought in this little bear and he gave it to me and he's like if you for you to have this bear you gotta be my girlfriend i was like sorry buddy can't do it i'm a horse and then he gave yeah but then he went over to shelly and gave her the bear no he didn't then i was like hey freddie come back over here i will be your girlfriend oh damn give me that bear back so you saw that competition and ella said i ain't losing out yeah and freddie was willing to get a woman an animal.

1:06:09Dude, I remember we had a guy by us. He was a taxidermist or whatever. And I just remember, I remember he had all these hard stuffed animals. I didn't know. Hard ones. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, that dude has the hardest stuffed animals ever. And he gave me like a squirrel because my mother said I'd love it over there all the time. She'd find me over there. And he gave me like a squirrel and I slept with that thing. My mom said for like four years, this big taxidermied ass squirrel. No, you didn't. With a hard tail. Yeah. What do you mean a hard tail? He had it. Bring up a... Look at that bitch. Yeah, look at the one.

1:06:39Yeah, that's a stripper. I've never seen one done like that before. Look at the one that's a stripper right there. That's the one that you had for sure. I think... I mean, I don't know. I was young, but I was happy to have it. Yeah. Look at the one canoeing in its own tail. That's pretty great, actually. Did it have a name? Huh? Did you name this bro? Yeah, Mr. Tucker. Mr. Tucker. So he could have been trans. I have no idea. Who knows? Depending on the day. Okay, a couple questions about your album And then your new What'd you say? I'll say real quick Ella, could you pull your mic to the right just a little bit?

1:07:12Will you come help her, Trevin? She doesn't need any help, sorry That's perfect This is Ella Why'd you say that? Just because I'm thinking If there's one lady that doesn't need any help It's probably you, I think Sometimes I need help You do? Yeah I know, sometimes I do too I think that's one tough thing about Like when you like, kind of like When things start, like I think if you're like a person that's kind of controlling or you like to have a say in everything you do, do you feel like you're that kind of person? That's one thing that I love about Morgan is Morgan knows exactly what he's doing.

1:07:46He is dialed in to a T, I feel like, on what is him and what represents him. Yeah, I'm very much that way. I mean, every bit of what I do, I have my hand in it. I'm co-producing the record. I'm writing stuff for the music video, co-directing that. I'm, you know, making the set list for the show and kind of creating that set. I literally drew out our set in my journal. It was like, gave it to the set designer. Really? It was like, this is what I want. And they literally made that for me. So it's all you. So when people come to see this next door, it's all you. No, I mean, I have an incredible team.

1:08:21Right, but it all comes from you originally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's interesting. It's hard to find people that sometimes people get stingy with your art in a way. And it's funny. it's like a pride thing and I care so much about the people that I work with it being a collaborative experience you know and so everyone on my team it really is that with whether it be my stylist or my makeup artist or Kaylee over here who's my photographer and also a creative director in my management you know my band it's kind of like I don't tell my band to get up there and play this dang thing lick for lick I want us to get up there and have you know fun and play music and obviously there's a way a show should go but I don't know.

1:09:03I just think that sometimes people put these weird perimeters around such a creative thing. And something that, like, I think You Look Like You Love Me did for me was, like, everyone told me that song was not going to work, you know? They were all like, what? My label tried to get me to sing. After y 'all had cut it or before? Yes, after we had cut it, they were like, we really think you need to go back in and sing these verses. I was like, I'm not singing it. and they're like you need to sing it and I just fought them really hard on it and they thought you need to go back in and sing Riley's verses is Riley the one that sings on that yeah but no like the yeah the talking part you know I was all but 22 I think at the time yeah yeah no they wanted me to sing that go back in they're like this is like gonna be the worst performing song on the record nah yeah and so I think with that one I mean it was just different and you knew it wasn't I mean I didn't know what it was gonna do but I believed that You believed in what it was, though?

1:10:01I believed that it was different. I believed that it was something that made me smile, and I enjoyed singing it. And, you know, like I said, once I put my mind to something, like if I go in and cut something, it's because I believe in it. It feels like you get to know you some in that song a little bit, too. I mean, there's something about when somebody's talking to you, you know, when they're talking as well. I think there's, yeah. Tells a story in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. dang who's out there telling Ella Langley no I don't know but have there been parts you've like like like as things got busier you're like learning how to be like kind of like a boss a leader not necessarily a boss but like a leader yeah and then those are roles that you have to step into I think if you want to be like exactly how you want to be you know because otherwise there's like especially in music and um and hollywood type of stuff there's it'll it'll make something for you and serve it out there you know but if you want to be on top of it it takes a lot it does i think that's one of the harder parts of this job and kind of what i've watched from watching other artists my whole life obviously wanting to do this paid attention in a way like you really do have to get up and fight to do it the way you want to do it every day isn't that crazy?

1:11:21You do. It's exhausting. And people all day, the more success, the more people care about what you're doing. In the beginning, in a label, when I was first signed, it wasn't a competitive deal. I didn't really have that much going on. And it was more of like a banking on me type of a situation. So now, you know, everyone is paying a little closer attention to what's happening, obviously. And everyone has an opinion, and it's like that across the board. and that's just because it's working and everyone wants it to stay working. And, you know, you know yourself the best in your artistry. And, like, at the end of the day, I'm the one that's going to have to do that interview.

1:12:00I'm the one that's going to have to sing that song every night. I'm the one that's going to have to go take those pictures. I'm the one that's going to have to work with these people, you know. And I think it's just constantly reminding them of that and not compromising who you are as a human being because, well, this is how it's usually done. I hate that phrase. Well, this is what you would usually do. I was like, well, I don't give a rat's ass what you'd usually do. I do not want to do it like that. I really don't. And I'm going to stick my heels in the mud. Yeah, I don't even have any heels, and I'm just going to put my feet in there.

1:12:31You do have heels. That's the bottom of your foot. Oh, yeah, you're right. And I'm going to put them in the mud. Yeah, dude, I've always, I don't want to do it how you want it. Dude, that's been the pilot light of my entire existence. Oh, yeah, do it like this. That's the worst thing you can tell me if you don't want me to do it. Dude, I don't want to do any. I never want. Dude, I couldn't even. My eyes wasn't even open, and I was like, I ain't doing shit like you want me to. Yeah, keep your eyes straight. Fuck you. Nah. How about that? Nah, bitch. I'm coming with a remix right out there. Yeah, yeah.

1:13:07Damn. That's hilarious. Oh, congratulations, you guys. Your tour with Morgan starts April 18th in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Bryant-Denny Stadium. I know. Home state. That's so crazy. It's cool. I think it's the first concert to be in there since, like, what, 19-something? Bring it up. 1970-something. I think Alabama was the last thing. Oh, hey. Bring it up. Oh, my God. Kaylee took that over there. Did she? God, take some of me, Kaylee. I need to live like that. I need to get a damn broach. A broach? I don't know. Sorry. I mean a nice necktie. I'm just joking. I'm trying to make your brother laugh. The only joy I'm having is when you guys laugh.

1:13:56That's the gig, huh? Well, yeah. It's just nice. When people laugh, I feel okay. Yeah. Alabama Stadium show right there at Bryant-Denny. When was the last one? That's what we're asking. Honestly. This guy's just looking at pictures of men online. that's the dang football team we just want to know when was the last just ask somebody fucking ask who's that Roll Tide guy oh ask Roll Tide Willie yeah he's actually from near our hometown dude he was in the military with my buddy's dad he used to be pretty not normal but better Island Home that's where he's from what yep God bless him the last concert held at Brian Denny Stadium was a performance by the band Alabama in 1992 which followed a series of Bama Blast concerts in the early 1980s a 2008 concert with Alan Jackson was scheduled but canceled dang so that's been 30 33 years yeah I'm pretty excited about that one that's crazy and we're direct support this year we've really worked our way up on this tour first tour we were first of four we did with him last year we were second of four this year we're direct.

1:15:13Congratulations. Just climb your way, you know what I mean? He says, I mean, I've spoken with him about you and he's like, she has it. She has got it. He's been really cool. He's a unique dude, man. Well, you know, I mean, him and Earn and Hardy and that whole crew has just been super kind to me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that whole group is so much fun. I remember right whenever I moved in town, we had a podcast studio. I was living over in Wedgwood, Houston. I just was renting a house and putting a podcast studio and the guy was always stopping by. He's like, do you have a podcast studio in here? I was like, no.

1:15:44And just like a lot. He's like, for some reason, this guy hated podcasting or whatever. And one day we got to have Morgan and came and then we had like, kind of just snuck out hardy and earn and we had a blast over there. But that was fun. That was like an early episode that we had here in town. Yeah. Those shows are going to be cool. It's going to be so great. And, oh, there was something else I was going to ask you about. Oh, and then you're doing Stagecoach too. Yeah. Me and my buddy are DJing there. Really? Yeah, dude. Have you DJed before? No. But it looks so dang easy. Yeah. I'm just joking, Diplo, but it looks pretty damn easy.

1:16:22So, yeah, that's it. Yeah, I don't know. I've never tried that. But, yeah, me and my friend Caleb Presley are going to play at Diplo's Honky Tonk. Stuart met him. You did? I did. And the Glunny Balls. Oh, they're great, aren't they? Yeah, I love them. he is he loves a nice cheese too if you know of a restaurant in the area he'll tell you about cheeses in any area he almost has like a did you say yeah you will you know that like he already knew that yeah yeah he loves them cheeses you know I met him over at Havarti listening to Hardy and uh sorry I'm just dropping a horrible cheese country music lyrics here.

1:17:09That was great. I thought it wasn't too bad. That's how easy it is. But no, that's, so that's going to be cool. I'm excited. I'm excited to get to see you play out there. Let's talk about, and thanks so much for spending time with us today. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. We're happy to have you. We had this girl in yesterday. Have you ever seen that girl? She's like on TikTok. She has like, she has stenosis. She has a, like a syndrome. Cystenosis. Cystenosis. She keeps changing the name of it. But, uh, yeah, this is her. Have you seen her? She talks about the spice, a little bit of spice.

1:17:46A little hint of spiciness, like a little hint of soy sauce, a little hint of the tomato, you know, a little hint of the spice. Tomato and ramen? Yeah, it actually has like a hint, little hint of tomato. Oh yeah? Yeah. What is a hint? I don't even know. It just sounds like a little word. That's me all the time. what is even there? I don't know just say it first and figure it out later yeah you have your new album Dandelion or Dandelion that's how some people were saying it congratulations did you feel like you had to hurry up and get this out or because I think sometimes coming off of like you said earlier your career starts getting bigger and things start to feel like you don't want to lose the momentum right?

1:18:34You've worked so hard to build a flame. Did it feel like any pressures? Like what were some pressures that were involved with this? Or was it just completely smooth? And is that a ridiculous question? Nothing is ever completely smooth, I don't think, for real. Some, I don't know. Well, I don't know. Maybe some things. Yeah. Some things. Some things, maybe, yeah. But this record, I mean, I worked on it for like a year and a half. So it still took a while. but I keep saying the big word for this record is synchronicity it did just feel like a lot of things while it was you know I'm co-producing for the first time while I'm full time touring two different tours while you know just trying to balance everything at the same time get the vocals done you know it taught me a lot and that's what was so cool about having Miranda to be a part of it you know because she's just so honest you know you've met her and hung out with her she's just so real yeah she's great she likes barrel racing too yeah she does um but she just you know she was just honest about you know days where i was like she's like you're burnt and take a step back yeah but also like you know some things i wanted to go in there i'm like can i say that she's like hell yeah you can say that you can say whatever the hell you want to you know um so like that confidence of someone that has done it and like you look up at their career so much like you know what hell you know what yes yeah actually i do want the symbols to be louder right there i do and um no it was it was really cool this whole this whole record i'm so excited about it i've never been more excited about music in my life really i think i've clicked in my artistry let's go yeah yeah i think i really have a pretty badass thing to say yeah i think especially if you're somebody you mentioned earlier that you're such a like a judge of yourself you know that you You get off stage and you're like, yeah, that was fine, but it wasn't as exact as I could possibly have been.

1:20:35Yeah, I just, man, this is as exact as I want it to be. Hell yeah. We had such a vision for it. I had a hundred and something song reference playlist of what I wanted sonically for this record. Now, what do you mean? What does that mean? I literally just went on Spotify and made a playlist of all of these songs of the era I was listening for guitar tones and drum sounds and BGV, background vocal parts. So you start with that idea before anything? Well, actually it started with the title Dandelion. We had written that song. It's the oldest song on the record. It was almost going to be put on the last record, but I pulled it at the last minute because I just kind of felt like sonically it's where I wanted to go.

1:21:17And I knew it was like the context was like, feels like I'm growing and I'm not just so hungover and doing debauchery every day of my life, you know? yeah yeah yeah maybe just on Tuesdays you know um but um yeah so I found out that um dandelion tea is a detox for your liver oh yeah and when I heard that it was like a light bulb went off over my head it's like oh my god a record called dandelion coming after a record called hungover it's like you're just growing up you're you know dandelions are resilient they're kind of considered a weed but I mean what are kids going and picking out for their moms and bringing them you know it's a bunch of dandelions and they're actually spread on the wind which is cool if it weren't for the wind so that's a little random little nugget in there but I mean so much of that stuff is in this record and God I love it sometimes I play it when I'm in my room or whatever you feel that?

1:22:13you feel like a dandelion? I will play it I'm not saying all that but I will say I will play it sometimes. You never have felt like a dandelion? I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, I could have to read through my diary, but I don't think so. Probably not. But that's okay. That's okay. But I just, yeah. I mean, I love you. You're more of a rose. Okay. I'm more of a damn, what's the plant that grows on your house even if you don't want it to? You're a kudzu. Yeah, I'm more of a kudzu. You are more of a kudzu. I'm more of a damn kudzu because they can't get rid of me. They're like, this bastard.

1:22:45I thought we put him out years ago. And it's like, bitch, I'm still. You were growing under the porch the whole time. I'll come out, and I'll tap on your window. I'm only planting. Late at night. Yeah. I'm like a damn fungus. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you, sir. I like to vine, but we'll go fungus. We'll go fungus. No, but no, I love listening to your music. It's great. I mean, I'll be standing up. Thanks. I'll be standing up. And who am I to judge? It's great, dude. One time I said to Morgan, I was like, man, that song is good. And he looked at me, and he goes, that song is great. and I was like, he's right, and he was right.

1:23:22You just kind of sat there in silence for a minute. I was just trying, I think, be cool a little bit, you know, and he was like, no, and he was right. He got kind of sweaty right when he said that. Yeah, I think we were actually working out somewhere, so it was like, you know. Extra. It was just like, I don't know what was going on, but I remember him saying, that song's great. I was like, I've respected his confidence about it, but no, I love listening to your music. It's great, but fuck, quit saying that, dude. You sound like a fucking weirdo. I like listening to your music there's that smile again but here's what happens is I'll be talking to dudes and I'll be walking up and singing or I'm at the dang market and some guy's walking by singing it you know singing it?

1:24:03yeah dandelion? all of it be heard? yeah just oh dude yeah my friend Alan the other day he said I can't get this out of my head and I was like well dang go look at some porno or something you know, or go get a dang, one of them nudie mags or something, bucko. Yeah. You know? That usually, yeah. But anyway, I was just saying, because that song is more of like a women-focused song. That's all I wrote. I wrote it with three guys. Did you? Yeah, Hardy's one. Did he? Mm-hmm. He does have long hair. He does. And he has nice hair, too. Well, tell me, like, so when it comes down to making the final songs, like, or did you - You want to play one?

1:24:45You want to pick one out to play? Yeah, play a song. Really? Yeah. Yeah, of course. I'll give you all the titles. All right. And then you can just pick one of them. Let me see about one. Just pick one that's not out yet. All right. Well, how would you know? How would you know? I think I will know. Okay. Where was that sent to me at? Thank you. Okay. All right. Let me see that. I just put my number in here. Sorry, I'm just watching this. Sorry. Sorry. I just got taken over by the devil. The dang devil is... He's swiping around in there. He's always looking. It's like you hand it to your dad and he just keeps swiping, you know, and you're like...

1:25:26Bro, if you give somebody a phone and they swipe one picture, is there anything scarier? No. You have no idea what that could be. You just swallow. It's just so hard immediately. It could be casserole. It could be somebody getting a tummy tuck. Is this something you meant to take to show your doctor later? Oh, you're like, that's for my doctor. You're like, you were going to show that young lady to your doctor? I don't know. Me and my doctor. I need to go to a meeting. What about Last Call for Us? Yeah. You can play that one. Is it a fun one?

1:26:06It's not as much fun. It isn't? If you want fun, not that one. Oh, that's true, huh? But it's, I mean, I like this song. Oh, my God.

1:26:21I'll just listen and enjoy it. Thank you.

1:26:28Thank you.

1:26:42That after these drinks, you'll let go of me and I'll let go of you. Here we go. We ain't ever gonna make this work. Let's close it out and go our separate ways. Soon as we go walking out that door, we ain't ever gonna, ain't ever gonna be the same.

1:27:16Here we go, boy. Get a picture of Chuck tapping in there. He's my ultimate hype man. I can edit that in right there.

1:27:37You can fade it out some. I think we could play one more. We can? And then we can just pick which one. Let's do that. That's good because that might be sad because what if somebody just put their animal down or something? Then that's the song they want to cry to. Actually, that's a good point. That's why we put it out there. Yeah, and thank you for that. Yeah. And I'll say this. I went and saw Dermot Kennedy one time. You ever heard of him? Mm-mm. Dude, and I didn't know people cried together in a big group at the Ryman, right? And so there was a woman crying on my back because she'd lost a pet.

1:28:09You just let her. I couldn't do, what am I going to do? Just let her. She said, just push my legs back if they get up against you. And I was like, all right. But it was special. That's a crazy rhyming show. It was. All right. And I saw you at the rhyming. Remember you asked me to sing that part and I got scared. Why did you get so scared? Because I couldn't remember it all. There were words. There's a teleprompter out there with the words on it. I didn't know that. Nobody told me that. I did. Yes, I did. I would have never. A teleprompter, I know about that. I know about words moving at slow speed in front of me.

1:28:46Yeah, there was one with the words on it and everything. I didn't know any of that. Yeah, they were like, everyone was like, he was upset. And I was like, well, why? I think I was upset. I think I was bummed because I wanted to, because I like this. I like the music and so I wanted to be helpful. And everybody else was helping out. And then I think I just got too nervous. I didn't want to mess it up. You would not. You could have come out there and said anything, and it would have been good. I don't know. That's the fun part about that song. I mess up the words all the time. Yeah? All the time.

1:29:18You do seem pretty much like you just kind of, you're willing to just roll with it no matter what. Hey, this is a special show for y 'all. I've never done it like this before. I can't help it. I'm human. I think, you know, in a world of you don't know what's real or not, like, I just think going out there and not being afraid to be humble a little bit in that way. I don't want to mess up the words. like when I did What I Want with Morgan I mess up with words almost every single time I've never been so nervous to go out and do something Really? I just felt like I could throw up before I walked out there every time I was like I just cannot I could not remember those words like here's me like there ain't no hot feelings if you only want to act like lovers do for days Like lovers do And I couldn't stop I literally just You really?

1:29:58I just couldn't I don't know and I would have it but then alright POV you go through this tunnel you know what I mean and you're playing in the stadium it's the most people you've ever been in front of. You're walking out with Morgan Wallen. Everything gets dark, and there's smoke everywhere, and you've got to walk out, and I'm in pointy heels, and there's grates out there, so you've got to make sure you're not falling down in those. You get up, and then here you go. You get one shot at it. There's no practice, too. You get one rehearsal, you go out there, and it's like, okay. But doing it in front of 80 ,000 people is different than 2 p.m.

1:30:32in the middle of the day. But what was awesome is the last time we did it is he came out and messed up the words. And I... When he did that, I just started to laugh so hard because he was giving me so much shit about messing up the words. He was just like, you can't come out here and mess this up again. I was like, I might. I really am scared that I might. And so the last night he did, and it was like, he just immediately could never say another thing to me about messing up the words, you know. I love that. So that was nice of him if he did that on purpose. That's hilarious. That's what he says now.

1:31:03He's like, that's why I did it. didn't make you feel better about all the time. Like, yeah. And he may have. Who knows? Nah, because when he looked back at me, it was pure, like, frustration that he, like, could no longer talk shit about me messing up the words. But it was even? Yeah. That's hilarious. I was like, yes. Yeah. Thank you. Y 'all do a great job on that one. Yeah, let's play one more then. Let's play something, Mella, that, well, let me think about one more. Let me try and pick one more. Okay, can I just say yes or no if I think it's a good one? Yeah, well, we'll take that part out.

1:31:32Okay. Why? Because if people, if you say no, it's not a good one. They are, but maybe not for this setting. Yes, for this setting. That's what I'm thinking about. Bottom of your boots. Yes. Bang, bro. That was my freaking one that I wanted. My dad gave me that title, actually. Yeah. I was like having a freak out one night. It's actually kind of a sweet story. Tell me about it, Dan. Well, I mean, he was just giving me one of his like, baby, you know, you're fine. He's like, you know, I love you from the bottom of my boots to the top of my hat. Dad, that's a great title. Anyways. That's as much of a dad as there is.

1:32:11Yeah. You know? Pep talks. That's bottom to top. Yep. Bottom of your boots. Yeah. Yeah.

1:32:26Heck yeah. Like I. I'm thinking it's loved, and I'm thinking it's sober. Boy, if your heart's a revolving door, yeah, that's all right, but I'm looking for more. If you're gonna love me, lay it on the table. Tell me how you really feel, give it a label. If you're gonna hold me, don't just hold me all night. Better hold me like you wanna hold me for a second Yeah, they got them shoulders If you're gonna love me, better love me to the moon and back From the bottom of your boots to the top of your head Yeah! Let's go! Yeah Oh, man Blame it on you Not on some bourbon The things that you're saying Behind closed curtains Go on and leave me for it really hurts If you don't mean it with those three words If you're gonna love me If you're gonna love me Tell me how you really feel Give it a label If you're gonna hold me all night Just hold me all night Better hold me like you wanna hold me for the rest of your life If you're gonna love me Better love me too Moon and back From the bottom of your boobs To the top of your head Love me I love that Hello Langley That's good That's good That's good in there That's good Enough slices Dude, your brother is a great dancer That's a beautiful song Dude, but he is dancing though I don't know Pretty good, buddy Heck yeah I told you he's my hype man.

1:34:28Yeah, no, I would get him out there and have him do it. Do you ever do that? No, but maybe we should. He's been streaming. Has he? Yeah. He's a streamer? Yep. Nuh-uh. I have been streaming Mustache Stew. Mustache Stew? Yep. Okay. Yeah, I like that, man. There's not a lot of southern streamers, really, I don't feel like. I know. I feel like I'm getting a lot of exposure, dude. It's been awesome. Mustache Stew, you know, I got the brand. I got the stew. Type. I like it, dude. And is that a real hat from your sister's album? It is. Oh, yeah. I got to get that. We brought you some. Yeah. I'm released.

1:35:06Are they? Did you really bring one? Let's go. I can't even wait to freaking put it on whenever I get home. That's a great song. Thanks for letting us play it. And I think, and what a great story to go with it, that it came from your dad saying that to you. Yeah. That's awesome. That's a nice reminder. Should we do one more? I mean, I will definitely be here for that. He picked out a good one. I think we should do Broken. I'll do it. All right, it's first chorus. And is it about, well, never mind. I'll just be quiet. You're figuring this town out one day at a time, aren't you? Yeah.

1:36:01Don't ask if I'm doing all right. Can we skip all the talking, baby? And don't try to find the right thing to say. Cause the words ain't working on me lately. Tears just fall on a hardwood floor. Gonna wonder why, gonna wonder what for. Don't ask if I'm doing all right. Can we skip all the talking, baby? Just let me, just let me, just let me be broken Just let me, just let me, just let me be broken Yeah

1:36:49One night, baby, just one night Let me feel everything that I'm feeling And if it's alright I'ma let it all out I'ma let it all out tonight So just let me, just let me, just let me be broken Just let me, just let me, just let me be broken You and me in the dark Just keep holding me tight while I'm falling apart Baby, just for the night Just for the night Just for the night Let me breathe Can't you hear this live with the crowd, you know? Oh, yeah, with their lighters. Lighters. People holding up pictures of people they've lost. Look at them. There we go. Literally. I think you want to show you with that light.

1:37:41That's pretty close. And you and me in the dark Just keep holding me tight While I'm falling apart Baby, just for the night That's awesome. Let me be broken. Yeah, a lot of singing choruses on this record. I can feel how proud you are. I thought a lot about wanting people to sing along to these songs. Yeah. You thought about that. A lot. I mean, I don't know. I just... No, it's interesting. Sometimes there's so many words in songs that I'm just like, I cannot remember. But I can remember the melody. So a lot with these songs, I wanted them to be kind of easy to remember. big singing choruses like you know you hear that chorus once and you already knew how to sing it yeah yeah because you want to feel a part of it i mean i think as a as a listener you want to feel a part of it as quick as you can sometimes especially if you're a fan of somebody you're like you know if it fits you some of them you know certain songs fit certain people better than others well maybe you haven't heard all the songs and you just know like one or two and then you come to the show but you can still catch on to songs throughout the show because because i hate Just staying in there.

1:38:46I hate just staying in there. I have too much ADHD to just stay in there. God, and you have to keep getting snacks because you don't know the song. You're like, well, shit, I'll get another snack or whatever. Get another pretzel, I guess. I'll get another pretzel. Maybe make it cinnamon this time. Yeah, maybe I'll change things up or something and get a damn diet Gatorade or whatever, which they never came out with, which I have written them about. I had this, like, Choosing Texas is probably the biggest song everywhere. where apparently they had like somebody caught it. They caught it. They found an alien or something.

1:39:16He was singing it. I think like there was like a family of aliens. They saw somewhere that were, they saw them singing it. Like it's number one on everything. It's like, you know, it's like the biggest song that's ever happened. Some guy, you see that guy in a coma who he kind of wakes up and mumbles one of the lyrics and then goes back into a coma. Yeah. He's like,

1:39:36just getting them right back, right off. No, I haven't seen that one. There's so many memes to it though. Have you seen a lot of those? Yeah. Can we bring some up? Yeah. What do you think about all these? I think that it's whatever people want to do with the song. Once I put it out there, it's like, who knows what could happen. And like I said, this is what's going to keep songs alive. You know, it's...

1:40:04It does sound real close to that. Drinking Jack off by myself? Yep. I think it does. It does. It does. And that, like, I'll get songs stuck in my head and parts to it. And I just have that right there stuck in my head, like, on repeat over and over again now. Just drinking Jack up on myself? It's like, drinking Jack up on. And have you ever accidentally sung it like that on stage or no? I feared that a lot. I really do. Because I have the thing about me where it's like, I have one specific thing I should not say. And then I'm accidentally going to probably say it. Like, I don't know why. God, yeah.

1:40:36Yeah. That's because damn Satan's tickling you from the inside. here's one right here

1:40:48there's Jews in Texas I see a new one all the time

1:40:58drinking Jack out by myself there's Jews in Texas I can tell and it's just a a mixed guy at least possibly a black man fishing in a suburban man-made pond. There's no way that they're fishing that pond right now. You don't think? No way. I don't know. I bet there's some damn missing women in that bitch. Pull up one more.

1:41:20This...

1:41:27My dad loves that one.

1:41:34It says some people can't see it because they're listening while I'm Eastbound and down, I can't help but cry because I farted, it says, on the screen. So that's what they're saying she said. That's hilarious. Yeah, the only ones I've seen is the Jews in taxes and then Drinking Jack off by myself. It does. It's like that. You can be my green bean. You remember that thing? You can be my queen bean. Lord, remember that song? And everyone was like, you can be my green. Yeah, I used to do that. You can be my queen. Life's a pain to bust. am I gonna you don't want something with us you say it you could be my green bean oh yeah you could be my green bean everyone's always said green bean oh you could be my green bean okay I gotta stop dude for some some real man shows up and chokes me out can we okay moving on Ella Langley and then your own tour you have your own tour yep is kicking off after or it's in between the one with direct support from Morgan?

1:42:41Kind of back and forth some. We start in May. May what? May 7th. Where did we start? Toledo, Ohio. Yep, Toledo, Ohio. That's when Vietnam was. Was that where Vietnam was? I know it wasn't. Sorry. I know Vietnam was on in Toledo. I think Vietnam started May 7th. Oh, that's the day. It doesn't matter either way. At this point. Let's pretend that's not part of this. Well you got double Marlowe's on it You got Dylan Marlowe and Cameron Marlowe Not related Two totally different singers both great Caitlin Butts is on there I'm trying to think if I've heard her before Can you bring up Caitlin Butts You ain't gotta die to be dead of me She has an incredible cover Of um I went down to Tulsa Oh yeah Yeah she's incredible her voice is incredible she's so fun her songs are fun

1:43:48she's also really funny she's funny? yes that's the best that's good I love funny girls being on tour there's nothing better than funny girls a lot of funny girls I noticed and this is something I noticed is that a lot of them are from Philadelphia area yeah what made you notice that? I just noticed it, and I believed it. Well, that's all you got to do. When I noticed it, I believed it. And then that's what it is. Yeah, sometimes you meet some funny girls from Philadelphia area. But anyway, also, Caitlin Butts. And I look forward to getting to meet her sometime. She's really good. And then Gabriella Rose is first of three for almost the whole thing.

1:44:29She's incredible. Diplo was telling me something about her. Oh, she's so good. I believe in her a lot. She's young. And she's still like, you know, finding herself in her artistry and, you know, doing the whole damn thing. But she's so good. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. The way she writes, it's like you can tell she means what she says. And then Lacey K. Booth is another one. My God. They are just some good women out there. Yep. We are glad they're doing it. Well, yep. We are glad. We are glad. Sorry, I don't know. Is this the weirdest interview? Is it okay, guys? It's awesome. Those guys are perverts, both of them.

1:45:14Ella, thanks so much for hanging out with us. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Congratulations on all of your success on everything that's going on and just learning to figure it out because I think that's one thing that everybody's trying to do. I think sometimes people think that people like it are in some sort of limelight or going through some sort of popularity or exposure or fame that they... There's like a conductor behind the stage that's like telling you what to do every second of the day. Yeah. No. Sadly, that ours is in there. Can you imagine what our conductors look like too in there?

1:45:45It's a mess. If they pulled out whoever lives in my head from behind a building, from behind a building, and they're like, look what we found back there, I would like fucking hang him from the nearest row, bro. Did you ever watch the Inside Out movie? And he wouldn't have pants on, I bet. Probably. You're like, wait, you're telling me the guy in my head. Has never had pants on. Has never had pants. Like, the officer's like, he doesn't own pants. You're like, well, what? We can't afford pants. Yeah. Oh, God. Have I ever watched the Inside Out movie? Yeah. Uh-uh. It was like the characters that live in your brain, the cartoons.

1:46:22You would love this movie. I actually think that you would. It's incredible. I've never seen this. You should. You should see it with your eyes. It's very good. Okay. it's like about all these characters, it's like sad, mad. There's like one main girl, and then there's like a, I don't know what the other one is, joy. Yeah, there's some anger, disgust, joy. Oh, I see all of them. They're all labeled up there. Oh, wow. Anyway, it's always made me think about that. I appreciate that. Welcome to something for later on the plane, whenever you're on the plane. Yeah. After I get done listening to Dandelion, then, I'll put on Inside Out.

1:47:01I'm sure the people sitting next to you are like, this guy's going through a lot. No, no. If someone came up on you watching that, they'd be like, yeah, for sure. Probably. It's kind of crazy that that's where we're at now. If an adult came up on another adult watching a fucking cartoon, they'd be like, yeah, man, you're doing everything. Everything's fine. He must be having a hard day. It's a crazy world. So you're going to be on tour for a bit then? You won't get to go back home for a while? Or do you have a set date where you're going to go back home? Will you be home for Easter? Will you be home for?

1:47:26Yep. I'm going to go home for Easter. And then. Will you go back to the church that you grew up in? No, no. Just, I kind of, well, we moved to a different place. My parents just sold that house, actually. They closed out, like, a week or two ago. Oh, nice. Yeah. But, yeah, I just bought a house back there on a lake, and don't want to say where, because people already come up on their boats and stuff playing my music. It's kind of funny. People are perverts. People are seafaring perverts. But it's not. It's a small town, you know what I mean? They're like. Yeah. They're cool. There's, like, the closest.

1:47:58It's just like a Piggly Wiggly and a DG there, you know? Oh, yeah. I mean, people used to pull up by our apartments and steal all the ditch onions that were out there. I never—what? You haven't? Mm-mm. I have never. Oh, they got ditch onions out there. And congratulations on choosing Texas as a number one. It's a number one for— It's just so many. I don't even—it's too many slices. Too many things. For everything. It's actually crazy. It's a number one for everything. I think it just came out on the moon. It's the first number one on the moon, I think. Yeah, I don't really know. That would be nuts.

1:48:34No, yeah, I don't know. It's just so weird to believe that that's like a song. That's my song? Yeah. What? I know it's hard to feel attached to things that you do sometimes. Yeah. I think. Yep. I think that that makes good sense. Maybe that's one of the things that makes you you, but whatever the things are that make you you, they're enjoyable to witness. So thank you for spending time with us. Thank you for your music. There's so many people I know that love it and that it brings joy to their life. And I'm glad I got to meet Mustache Stu. And yeah, when I need some photos and my conditioner sets, I'm going to call you and, Dan, get something swell going on.

1:49:15Something swell. Yeah, something swell. Ella Langley, thank you. Thank you for having me on here. Yes, ma 'am.

1:49:27I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found. I can feel it in my bones. But it's gonna tell you.