In short
Mike Tyson discusses his life story and personal philosophy—style, discipline, addiction and sobriety, mentors, prison isolation, faith, and relationships—plus anecdotes involving celebrities and his views on fame and power.
Guest backgrounds
Mike Tyson is a former heavyweight boxing champion. He describes a childhood shaped by poverty and crime, bullying (including pigeons), heavy fighting training, substance use, and later long-term sobriety. He also references his adopted-mentor relationship with Custard Bardo and his later marriage to Kiki.
Key claims
Tyson says he became “a criminal” after being humiliated while building a pigeon coop, and that he bought nice clothes to stop the ridicule. He claims he is sober for nine years and rejects the idea that he had the discipline to be a drug dealer. He credits Custard Bardo (adopted legally) with structure and discipline from age 12 to 19, and says Bardo was “like my father.” Tyson argues that solitude and integrity help recovery, and that “nobody’s ever a winner…until it’s over.” He frames his life as guided by God (“God broke me before he crowned me”).
Notable examples
building a pigeon coop at age 11; being bullied after tar/poop exposure; beating bully Gary Flowers after Flowers ripped off a bird’s head; sweeping/mopping gyms after training; prison “hole” conditions; visits from Whitney Houston; meeting Michael Jackson (competitive, “where did I know you from?”); and a story about Brad Pitt allegedly trying to get oral sex while Tyson’s wife was driving him.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMike Tyson's Love for Fashion
1:15 to 2:45
Mike shares his feelings about dressing up and his childhood experiences with clothing.
“I went to Stefano Ritchie because I knew I was coming here.”
The Impact of Bullying and Criminal Life
2:45 to 5:25
Mike recounts a story from his youth about being bullied and how it influenced his life choices.
“I never knew about washing and changing clothes.”
Reflection on Substance Use
5:25 to 6:01
Mike humorously reflects on his life with drugs and alcohol and his journey to sobriety.
“You know, I've sat across from, like, different folks, but nobody, I think, has had, like, on their own face has so many, like, you have a lot of scars on you that are just built into you from, like, wars, right?”
Scars and Fights: The Mark of a Fighter
6:01 to 7:45
Mike talks about the physical and emotional scars he has from a life of fighting.
“it comes up for years and years of waking up and you say, wow, I got a line on my face.”
Documentary Insights: A New Perspective
7:45 to 9:21
Mike discusses his upcoming documentary and the different perspectives he wishes to share.
“I had somebody I loved, and they loved me.”
Mentorship: The Role of Custody
9:21 to 11:13
Mike reflects on his relationship with his mentor, Cus D'Amato, and his influence on his life.
“I had to do my chores, I had to, you know, get my grades up.”
The Unmatched Bond with Cus
11:13 to 12:37
Mike describes the deep connection he had with Cus and the impact on his life.
“And he probably felt that about you, I bet.”
The Challenges of Relationships in Boxing
12:37 to 14:01
Mike shares insights about his struggles with relationships during his boxing career.
“Sometimes he'd go When you're south eating He'd just Just have to have I'd start eating for a week Sometimes he'd what?”
Mike Tyson's Early Relationships and Fighting Passion
14:01 to 16:39
Mike Tyson reflects on his youth, relationships, and deep connection to fighting.
“I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them.”
Childhood Struggles and Resilience
16:40 to 19:42
Tyson discusses his challenging childhood and how it shaped his identity and fighting spirit.
“My wife told me, don't judge him, don't judge him.”
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Memories of Home and Family
19:43 to 21:15
Mike shares poignant memories of his family life and the environment he grew up in.
“What's a nice memory that you have with your mom That was like something you think about That was like kind of like a moment That you kind of cherish It was one Christmas day and her birthday was on Christmas.”
Finding Humor in Poverty
21:16 to 22:11
The hosts share light-hearted anecdotes about growing up in poverty and its lasting effects.
“Oh dude I remember my mom would only let it be 80 degrees in the house right?”
Racial Humor and Reflection
22:12 to 23:26
A discussion unfolds about race, humor, and cultural experiences during their childhood.
“This is a little racial, but let's do it because...”
Airport Encounter with Jimmy Walker
28:00 to 28:36
Hear a humorous airport story involving Jimmy Walker and a chaotic misunderstanding.
“Jimmy Walker, the actor from Good Times, right?”
Michael Jackson: First Impressions
28:36 to 29:40
Mike Tyson shares his initial feelings towards Michael Jackson and his surprising personality.
“They just see a couple of bitches yelling dynamite, and they just jumped on him, bro.”
Personal Encounters with Michael Jackson
29:40 to 30:48
Tyson recounts personal stories and interactions he had with Michael Jackson.
“With Michael Jackson Because he's such a What was he like as a person A splendid, beautiful person.”
Michael Jackson's Competitive Nature
30:48 to 32:36
Discussion about Michael Jackson's personality traits and competitiveness in the entertainment industry.
“I feel lucky to be here with you today, man.”
Whitney Houston's Prison Visit
32:36 to 34:28
Mike Tyson recalls a memorable visit from Whitney Houston during his time in prison.
“Especially not in the music business if you don't bend the knee.”
Life Lessons from Solitary Confinement
34:28 to 36:06
Tyson reflects on the insights gained from his time in solitary confinement and the nature of solitude.
“If you come out the hole, you got to come out changed.”
The Nature of Life and Death
36:06 to 37:38
A deep conversation about life, death, and the lessons learned through experiences.
“I'm from the world that you come from as well, the recovery world, and it's a battle.”
Personal Growth and Self-Perception
37:38 to 39:46
Tyson discusses personal growth, integrity, and the importance of positive self-talk.
“If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it?”
Overcoming Childhood Bullying
39:46 to 42:00
Mike Tyson shares a pivotal childhood experience that led to his fighting career.
“I want to say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not.”
Childhood Bullying and Fighting
42:00 to 43:25
The hosts share personal experiences with childhood bullying and fighting.
“Yeah, he was a dirty, rotten kind of guy back there.”
Adventures in Youth and Relationships
43:25 to 44:50
Discussion about youthful escapades, including dating and relationships.
“Oh, the shape of your teeth are in them?”
Mike Tyson's View on Relationships
44:50 to 47:30
Mike Tyson shares his unique perspectives on love and relationships.
“What kind of black woman do you dream about fucking?”
Brad Pitt Story and Personal Insights
47:30 to 49:49
A humorous recounting of Tyson's encounter with Brad Pitt during a tumultuous time.
“Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life?”
Mike Tyson on Love and Family
53:20 to 56:00
Tyson discusses his loving relationship with his wife and family dynamics.
“Did it ever become like being Mike Tyson became and being Iron Mike Tyson and being like this, when you become bigger than you, how did that affect you as a person do you feel like?”
The Power of Women
56:00 to 57:16
Discussing the unique strengths and roles of women in society.
“Listen, they could bleed nine months and leave.”
Fatherhood and Fame
57:16 to 59:48
Mike Tyson shares his thoughts on fatherhood and the challenges of fame.
“Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence my children's life for people to look at them a certain way or have certain expectations out of them.”
The Impact of Hair
59:48 to 1:00:58
Exploring the significance of hair and its perceived power in society.
“As long as you got that hair, you got the advantage of that pussy.”
Changing Times and Mental Health
1:00:58 to 1:03:04
Discussing the shift in societal norms and its impact on mental health.
“Let the people say, oh, you're an animal.”
Health and Longevity
1:03:04 to 1:04:26
Conversations about health advancements and longevity in modern times.
“But I agree, there's something the government knows, man.”
The Dark Side of Drug Use
1:04:26 to 1:06:32
Mike Tyson shares personal stories related to drug use and its consequences.
“Imagine somebody said, I have something to this needle that'll make you last 30 more years strong.”
Rehabilitation Experiences
1:06:32 to 1:10:01
Mike recounts his experiences in rehab and the challenges faced.
“Yeah, I took it without the guy telling me.”
Cocaine Confessions
1:10:01 to 1:10:47
Mike Tyson shares wild stories about cocaine experiences and rehab.
“You know, normally before you go rehab, you get really hot.”
Unexpected Encounters
1:10:48 to 1:12:00
Tyson recalls a surprising night involving his friend and cocaine.
“I don't got mad because I should have kept that shit then.”
Cuba Adventures
1:12:01 to 1:15:00
Mike Tyson narrates his bizarre experiences in Cuba and interactions with locals.
“And I leave Jamaica, hang out with Jamaica, hang out there.”
Cultural Reflections
1:15:01 to 1:16:13
Discussion on cultural differences in treatment of women across countries.
“And listen, I'm saying to myself, I want to talk to my friend in Yugoslavia.”
Fighting in Japan
1:16:14 to 1:17:06
Tyson talks about his fights in Japan and the atmosphere surrounding them.
“We didn't learn anything for four days because he didn't even want to bother us.”
The Hulk Hogan Funeral
1:17:07 to 1:20:29
An emotional recount of attending Hulk Hogan's funeral and the people present.
“But before that fight, were you training as hard, or were you just living the life?”
Legends and Heroes
1:20:30 to 1:24:01
Discussion about wrestling legends and admiration for historical figures.
“He may say, if that was a cheek, that wasn't an asshole.”
Exploring Historical Figures and Ego
1:24:01 to 1:25:44
The discussion revolves around historical warriors and personal reflections on ego.
“I got to interview one of the Von Erics one time, Kevin Von Erick.”
The Influence of Fighters
1:25:45 to 1:27:49
Mike Tyson shares his admiration for fighters and their impact on his life.
“No, it's just that the way I conduct myself.”
Self-Discovery and Attention Seeking
1:27:50 to 1:29:39
The conversation delves into personal identity and the desire for recognition.
“It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just, we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves.”
Humor in Personal Stories
1:29:40 to 1:31:09
A light-hearted exchange about attention-seeking behaviors and humorous anecdotes.
“and my mother and her friend, everybody was having fun drinking.”
Mike’s Reflections on Parenthood
1:31:10 to 1:32:48
Mike Tyson discusses his joy in ensuring his children have a better life than he did.
“warm up a badge, bro, you can sell it at the merch stand over here.”
Moments with Cus D'Amato
1:32:49 to 1:34:48
Mike reflects on his relationship with his trainer and the lessons learned.
“I mean, did she just like say, or was it like, did you guys like, how do you put that together?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Thank you.
0:30from one of the most recognizable people in human history. This is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world, okay, the entire world.
0:42He's been everything. He's been a father. He's been a dang inmate. He's been a drug dealer. He's been a, but I'm just saying, this is a man who has done, I mean that admirationally, honestly. He's been a father. He's just done so many things. life has put so much on his shoulders and I'm curious to know what it's like to be him and I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest is Mr. Mike Tyson Thank you.
1:55You look sharp, Mike. Thank you. Thank you very much. I went to Stefano Ritchie because I knew I was coming here. I wasn't going to wear a suit. I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp. Yeah, yeah. I think you did it, man. Thank you. Do you like dressing up or not? I love it. You do? I do it just for no reason. I'm in my closet just trying on clothes. Yeah. Like a little mannequin, kind of? Or like a very tough mannequin? No, it's like a real-life stud just trying on his clothes. You like putting on stuff. Have you always been like that, or was that kind of? You know, let me tell you a story.
2:35One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me to help them. That's how I fell in love with pigeons. to help me build their pigeon coop. And so I started coming there often. But I was, what, 11 years old. I never knew about washing and changing clothes. My mother would take a hot washing club, put soap on the towel, and just wash me. I never washed myself. So after being on the pigeon coop, I have tar from building the pigeon coop. I got shit on me. Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance. And everybody said, yo, John, hey, Winky, this your friend? He got shit on me. everybody started laughing at me.
3:14I started laughing. I was crying. They were talking about me. And ever since that, I became a criminal and I only bought nice clothes. There's something. Isn't that crazy? I became a criminal and I bought nice clothes and nobody kept laughing at me again. Now, every time somebody says, wow, you look nice. Yeah, you're under arrest, but you look great. Yeah, oh, I love those pictures. Oh, those are the great ones. Yeah, there's something more respectable about a criminal that is well-dressed, isn't there? He become the rogue that we love. It becomes the what is it? The rogue that we love. The rogue that we love.
3:52Rogue. R-O-G-U-E? Yes, sir. Yes. Thank you for joining me today, Mike. I appreciate you, man. And thank you for just, you've shared a lot of your life with the world. Is it sometimes scary how much you've shared? I have to correct you for a moment. You had one made a mistake and called me a drug dealer. I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer because I keep getting high in my own supply. I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer. I would be rich. Everybody wants to buy. The cops, everybody want to buy from me. God damn. I'd have bought Coke from you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome.
4:33Thank you. You were going to say what? I interrupted you. I enjoyed getting high. Getting high was my life. Alcohol, too, but both of us was my life at once. I love, man. I was sober. I'm sober for nine years. Believe that? Sober for nine years? Congratulations.
4:51Sober for nine years. On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug if you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird? Hey, man, I'm an equal opportunity. I didn't have no favorite drug. You didn't have a favorite, huh? No. Anything that got me out of me, I like. Anything that got you out of you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's something about being yourself. It just gets to be too much, doesn't it? Too much power, man. God gave you more than you can handle. You think that God put too much power in your hands? No, no way. God broke me before he crowned me. Of course I am. I'm going to be able to handle it.
5:32He doesn't do anything. You say, hey, you're a cool kid. Take this. Boom. He doesn't do that. You know, I've sat across from, like, different folks, but nobody, I think, has had, like, on their own face has so many, like, you have a lot of scars on you that are just built into you from, like, wars, right? Do you ever look at your own face and you can know, do you know, like, which ones are from which fights and stuff? I think, you know, listen, that's interesting that you said. I think it comes from accumulation of fighting. You know, you don't wake up overnight and you got a line on your face.
6:04it comes up for years and years of waking up and you say, wow, I got a line on my face. Okay. Which was the, which was the start, which was the start of 10 years ago. But you just haven't seen it yet. Oh, so you kind of get worn in sort of. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, pretty much. You have a documentary that you're starting that's coming out this year on Netflix. Is that right? I believe so. I don't know when it's coming out, but I believe it's coming out soon. Okay. You've done a lot of documentaries. Do you feel different about this one? Like, what do you feel like there's something different to offer now to people that are going to consume it?
6:43That's interesting that you say that. I'm going to give you an honest answer. There's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews. So it's more their perspective than it is my perspective. I may think it's shit. Yeah. They may think it's a masterpiece. So, no, I'm serious. Yeah, no, I'll hear you. It's all perspective. You know, most of us don't like ourselves on the, you know, we don't like ourselves up to that much, you know. But, you know, the people do, I guess, right? You can't help it that you're very, that everybody came to see you and you're very popular.
7:19You can't help that. Not your fault. You think it's your fault, really, that you're like this? No, I think it's interesting. Yeah. Me too, yeah. Yeah. I can tell that you feel that way. If you had a If there was a time In your life That you could go back to And had A documentary crew That just in your own life Like in your childhood Or anything That you could just have That footage What would it be Would it be when I first Met my mentor Custard Bardo I mean first I mean when I first You mean the first day No when I first Got in trouble And I was in that June out of detention I was doing stuff there And then I started boxing I started changing my life Then I met him That's the part I wish he could come back Yeah I miss that.
8:01What was it about it that... I don't know. I had somebody I loved, and they loved me. How'd you know that he loved you? Oh, fuck. Don't even tell me. He, um... If anybody say something... If anybody say something... No, it's okay. Look, it's hard to know. Sometimes it's hard to know. No, if anybody say something negative about me, you would attack them. 75, you would attack. So we protected you. Yeah. And why are you having me talking about this bullshit? It's stop. Stop. Stop, motherfucker. Stop. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Stop. Shouldn't we go back to the corners for a minute?
8:54No, I think it's just interesting. like there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of like hold you up by the neck and like you know kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and uh and give you a place to be everyone needs a mentor in their life everybody even if you got a bad mentor that's better than having no mentor what was it like uh with cuss outside of the ring what was that like like what was that energy because their family adopted you or no yeah they did yeah did you have your own room? Well, I had to earn that. You did? You had to earn it? I had to earn that, yeah.
9:26And how did you earn it? Like, what was that like, you mean? I had to do my chores, I had to, you know, get my grades up. You know, I'm getting my C minuses, so I'm getting D's now, I'm getting B's, I'm coming up, teaching the right nice letters back at home about I'm improving, all that crap. So yeah, he loved that stuff. And was there stuff around the house that you had to do? Like, What kind of chores? Oh, I cleaned the dishes. I took out the garbage. I mopped and sweeped the floor. Yeah, I did the whole thing, man. Like, what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess? Well, I felt I had to hold my head.
9:59And that was the structure I had doing my tours. It was me building my discipline up. After every train, every time I finished training, I had to mop and sweep the gym. Sweep and mop the gym. Even when I was a big shot. I'm being front cover of Sports Illustrated. I'm taking all the pictures. Boom. All day, the cameras, everybody looking at me. At the end of the day, they're brooming them up. Yeah. Through the gym. Amen.
10:27Whenever, because he passed away, how long was he in your life for? Since I was 12, so I was 19. And when your career grew, did you guys, did it put any, like, was it harder to be close to him? Like, did you get, like, so kind of, like, busy that you, that it was tougher to... You know, let me explain something. He was like my father. He was my adopted father, legally adopted father. I wasn't out of his sight much. He didn't let me out of his sight much. He watched you all. He was my everything. If anybody said something negative about me, he'd have to duck these things on the porch. He was just like that.
11:07And had you felt that before in your life, you think, or no? Never, never. If he told me to kill somebody, I would. No, I'm telling you That's how it was That's how deep it was He said kill that boy He's dead Yeah, tight shit, man People, hey People gotta go Yeah, no, but that's I'm just keeping it real That's real talk That's real talk So the connection was It was just that much Yeah After he passed away Did you try to find Like another Like custom model Nobody else like him But was there a part of you That was looking for Something like that Not like that No, it doesn't exist That part was filled in?
11:43Yeah He was born only for me. He was what? He was born only for me. Oh, you feel like he was made for you. Oh, that's awesome. And he probably felt that about you, I bet. Well, I hope so. I hope so. Have you had the opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life? Or do you feel like you have some of the same capabilities that he had? It takes a special person to be that type of person. And we're all special in different ways. I'm nowhere near the person that he was. No, we're born from two different structures and fibers. He's just a total disciplinarian. He almost wants to be perfect.
12:24He hardly makes any mistakes around people. He won't do any. He just wants to be right at every moment. He puts himself in a position to be right. He's just, I could say megalomaniac, but he was just a disciplinarian person. Sometimes he'd go When you're south eating He'd just Just have to have I'd start eating for a week Sometimes he'd what? I'm sorry I'm going to move your mic He just may start Stop He just may stop Eating for a week Just stop Just stop Wait My wife does the same shit You got this in here And Mike She was flagging me From back there Was she really? She was Oh that's some bullshit I knew that right?
13:06You see I knew that shit I know that shit Kiki, do you love me? She loves you. That's what it's like. If you love somebody, you got to keep them clean, you know? I hear you. Can you say that last part, though? He was such a disciplinarian. Was he disciplined in his own life? He was in the Army. He was in World War II. Okay, so he almost had an institutionalized disciplinarian. If I'm going to a school dance, and it's like, what, three miles away, and the taxi's a little late, I say, because the taxi's going to be a little late. I can't stay up for you. Run home now I went to the girl To wait for the cab I said baby You gotta wait for the cab I got my shoes I'm running home I gotta run home And dress shoes Probably for the dance I gotta run I gotta run home Get home now Run Click click click click click Dang right It's hard to keep a girl When you acting like that I was too Yeah I was extreme It was hard to have a girl I was too extreme With training What was your relationship Like Was it easy for you to relate to girls when you were young Like to date and that kind of stuff No way It was Listen It was all about fighting It was all about fighting Oh so you really set You weren't even trying to date or anything as a youngster Yeah I dated kind of late in life Yeah because I was I was feeling up with fighting I talked to a girl I'm talking about fighting She's talking about what Yeah Yeah, they don't want to see you shadow boxing.
14:41Yeah. Because they want to hug. I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them. No, no. They don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they want to talk deep. I want to talk about fighting. You loved it that much? Yeah. I loved it. I loved it. Why was it such a magnet for you, do you think, fighting? I think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fights, I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's names. I wanted them to root my name one day. Yeah. That's cool, huh? Did you feel, like, why did you, like, it's interesting. Some people had this feeling they need, they want somebody to see them, right?
15:18Or they want to have a say in the world. Like, did you feel like you, like, weren't missing part of that? Like, were you not being seen or did you? No, I just, one of the customers told me I'm the greatest fighter since the beginning of life. So I was 12. He told me that at 12. And you believed him? Yes Because you trusted him? Yes Wow That's pretty powerful That it would just be able That you'd be able to envelop that that much No, how can you pick a kid 12 years old Tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world You're looking at him like he's some old pervert guy Trying to do something You know, I'm with me I'm a thief, I'm a crook I'm some fucking world greatest fighter of all time So I thought this was some kind of trick The youth center was trying to pull on me Oh yeah yeah Those youth centers So this guy turned out to be the real deal And I turned out to be Mike I'm like whatever the fuck people think I am Yeah so he was the real deal Do you think if you hadn't had like Cause you know I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid And having like you know Your mother passed away when you were young And we're going to talk about some of that I'm just saying things that I You can talk about anything Those are just some things that I know about you right I don't know you, but those are things that I know about you.
16:35You may think you know about me. You'll figure them out now. Okay. Oh! Ding, ding, ding! All right, all right, all right. Thank you, Mike. Thank you for spending time with us. And with me. Thank you. I didn't think I was going to like you. You're a really good brother. Really? Thanks, bro. I appreciate that. My wife told me, don't judge him, don't judge him. I was feeling where I am. I said, don't judge him, don't judge him. She's got a very, you can tell she's a very, she has a good soul, your wife. Yes, she did. She believes in you. Yes, she does. Do you think that if you'd have had the things you needed as a child, right?
17:14Like the things that every child needs, right? I don't want that. Stay away from me. Keep that shit away from me. I like to suffer. You like the way it went? I love to suffer. I don't want no good time. Right. Oh, you like the discomfort? Oh, yes. I like being out of me. You know, getting out of my comfort zone. But if you'd have had those, like if you had the stereotypical things that people... I would be a bitch. Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world? No. Wow. The heavyweight bitch of the world. I know. I'd be wearing slippers during the day, probably. I'd be wearing dang slippers during the day.
17:57Yeah, my mother would baby me, wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff. It wasn't meant for me to have my mother. Did she baby as a kid? Like, what was she like? She was a drunk. She was a prostitute. But she was who she was. You know, my mom, my mom had like an issue when I was a kid. Like, she couldn't look at me because... Why? What's wrong with you? I know. You know something that we don't know? I don't know shit. But something was wrong with her. She just couldn't... When my mom was growing up, her dad would make them put his food under the door. He would not talk to my mom for months at a time, and he would go in and out of their house through the window.
18:48That sounds like a mental illness. Yeah, right. A mental illness, for sure. What they call now a mental illness. Right, right. At the time, yeah, it was just like kind of a reverse drive-through dinner, I guess. You got to go with your dad, I swear. But anyway, I'm just saying, like, there was just like, so early on I realized I got to take care of myself, right? Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself I made that decision. Like, I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds, and since then I was an adult. I don't care if I was two months old. Does that make any sense to you?
19:19Exactly. You know, my wife is kind of shamanic, and she believes that we ask for our parents. And then when I start believing I said if I didn't have the parents I had I would never be me I said she might got something I never tell her I'm saying it now She may have something there I did pick those parents If I didn't have those parents I would be fucked up She might be right What's a nice memory that you have with your mom That was like something you think about That was like kind of like a moment That you kind of cherish
19:54It was one Christmas day and her birthday was on Christmas. Your mother's birthday was on Christmas? I don't know how we got some money, but it was just a festival. Her and her friends, they had food there and we were eating food and we have never had that much food before. And I don't know how they got the money. I know it was something skullduggerish, but I'm sure... Skulldugger, a little bit of skullduggery? Yeah. So I'm sure... Something that broke the law, but it was just a great moment, you know. And that's what I was accustomed to. I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stick-up guys, the robbers, all being over my mother's house and stuff.
20:35We were the house of crime. I lived in the house of crime. Where did you sleep? Did you have your own room? No, my own room. I slept on the floor in a blanket somewhere. Dang. The beds are for the... For the Johns? For the Johns, yeah, exactly. I was everything for the tricks. But yeah, the Johns, the beds belong there. We got a bell. are you for real? I don't know if my brother or sister heard me they bring back memories to a bad trip. You slept on each other's backs. One person had to lay down flat and the other person got to sleep and then you switched. We didn't do that. We had slept on different parts on the floor but you know you had to if it's hot you had to air conditioning then you turned to big fan.
21:19Oh dude I remember my mom would only let it be 80 degrees in the house right? And I'm like well that and at the time when I was a kid I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right? And so we would go get the cold water and we would just put it all over the sheet and then we would lay on it like that. Make a little beach, go to Florida.
21:47But it was fun. Listen, right? Property is just so beautiful sometimes. If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious. Oh, it is. We had some fun. Nothing more funny than poverty. Oh, dude. It doesn't matter. It doesn't care how rich or famous you get. It still affects you. It doesn't care how big you get. Remember this? It comes out. Do you remember this? Bro, I'll tell you something. This is a little racial, but let's do it because... Go for it. We used to live like... People would burn their trash in the ditch, right? And so me and my buddy, William, we would get out there. and my buddy Larry and we would get all wet and we would run and jump through the smoke in the ditch until we were pretty darker-ish, right?
22:33And then, bro, we would kind of wait until somebody drove by and yelled the N-word at us, bro.
22:43The N-word, I hate this, say nigger. Say nigger. You don't say N-word for a bitch, say nigger. All these people drove by and called us niggers. Wait, wait, hold on. That's what I'm saying, man. Do you need me to say? If you need, I'm just, I don't want to do something. I can't tell what's going on here, to be honest with you.
23:07I mean, I'll jump through some. I just need to say one thing and I'll be ashamed. All right? Yeah. Say I'm a nigga lover. You need me to say it? Yeah. Say I'm a nigga lover. Go ahead, man. But does it mean all of them? Kind of, a little bit. Even a rotten one I don't know I don't know if people think I should do it or not Do it Do it Do it Do it Please Come on man stop fucking the show up You're fucking the show up You're right bro I just
23:51What can I say bro I'm a lover, bro. God is great, brother. God is great. God is great. Now, hold on. Who is cheering for this? Oh, God. I love this show. I love this fucking show. Fuck, are we going to jail or not? Are we okay?
24:22Another knockout for Mike. Here comes the podcast. It's because he's got a new podcast. He's trying to get me off the charts. That's why. Mike, people are going to be disappointed. He's trying to get me off the charts. And he's scared to say nigga, love. I don't know if that was going to say anything. Oh.
24:47Being a nigga That nigga pussy Is a motherfucker I'm sorry Forgive me guys Hold on I'm sorry I mean I don't know I've had a little I don't You know A little what? Huh? You have a little Or did you have a little? I don't know I think we should move on You know what I'm at You know what I'm at PrizePix Is America's number one SportsPix app That's the truth. The app is really simple to use. To get started, just pick more or less on two-plus players' stat projections and lock your picks in. Done. Plus, you can even follow me at Theovan directly in the app. You can see your friends' picks directly in the social feed and tail them with just one tap.
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28:40Yeah, they didn't see him. They just see a couple of bitches yelling dynamite, and they just jumped on him, bro. And I laughed. I could have helped and told people what was going on but I had to I was in a hurry you know I had to get to Cincinnati yeah good time that was a good show dude Janet Jackson was on there yes did you ever get to meet Janet yes I have I did have a chance to meet Janet and you someone said this is a rumor that I heard that you and Michael Jackson yeah closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there is that true this is not true at all It's not true Don King told me that He's a liar I'm joking He didn't tell me that But we knew if he did He'd have lied about it He tells the truth by accident Yeah I was going to say He tells the truth by accident Hey man Yeah It is what it is dude But no Did you actually get to spend time With Michael Jackson Because he's such a What was he like as a person A splendid, beautiful person.
29:46Hit behind all that stuff. He was a beautiful, calm, humble person. And I didn't like him for a long time because my friend had called me. He said, hey, Mike, this is one of Mike's producers. He said, hey, man, I'm over Mike's house. And once he said, no, fuck that, man. He disrespected me. No, I meant fuck that, man. Michael Jackson said all that? I said that. Oh, okay. And then my friend went like this. He said, really? He asked for me to call you. I said, I'll be right there. Boom. I was right. I know what I am. What was he like? Was he just like a... He was very shy. He was very humble. He was at the end of his...
30:23No, he was dealing with that bad stuff. That child stuff. He was dealing with that. He was really... And only there were four people at the house. No friends. And it was just him. I got to know him. Ask about Tupac. But I'm doing fine.
30:41I love you, man. You're beautiful. I thought you were going to be some mullet redneck. You're beautiful, man. You're beautiful. I'm doing all right. I feel lucky to be here with you today, man. You're beautiful. Do you think Michael was involved in that kind of stuff when you got to know him? Did you ever feel that about him or no? I had a different opinion about him once I got to know him. Got it. Totally different opinion. Dude, I read somewhere. Actually, I didn't read it out loud. I'm lying to you. One of my friends told me that he had some girls with him, and you was inquiring, or these are your girlfriends, and he said, get your own bitches to you.
31:11Oh, he did. Now, I'm not, I'm singing that. I'm going to tell you what happened. Please do. I went to a Michael Jackson concert with Don King. He had said, come, come, come, come Cleveland and meet my babies. And we're going to see Michael. So he called me. I went to see. So we walk into the show. It's the last song. We walk into the arena. We walk down the middle of the aisle. He goes like this to Don King. Don King puts his hand up. I go like this. And he puts his hand down. And I say to myself, I know Mike is this. And I say, no, he don't know. He is. He's a big performer. He can't be thinking about me.
31:42Of course not me. So I go in the back. I'm in the back. This whole staff is just loving me, loving me. The band guy gave me a stick. Everybody's all over me. Mike's at the corner chilling like this with the door open. I guess he's waiting for a car. He's going to jump in the car. And everybody's all over me. I'm saying, I think, let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know, because I want to go see what's a good night. I go over there. Before I say anything, he goes, where did I know you from? This is the biggest moment in my life. I just beat Mike. the whole world's talking about nothing but me.
32:12And he looked at me, where did I know you from? You were familiar. Where did I know you from? And I said, nowhere, Mr. Jackson. I was just a fan. I said, you motherfucker. I said, that was a good word. I hate him ever since. I hated him everything. If my friend didn't call me to come over the house and said, Mike called you, I would have never, I would have been hating him now. Wow. I didn't believe he said that. I was just a little kid. He said that to me. You think he was joking? Oh, he was dead serious. Wow. He was dead serious. You think he was very competitive? He was. Mike is too competitive.
32:46He's not friendly with nobody. Yeah. Especially not in the music business if you don't bend the knee. You got to bend the knee for Mike. Well, yeah, he wasn't friendly even with black folks. He freaking ended up white. You got to be on, you know what I'm saying? You got to have an issue. Hey, but listen, everybody's going that route now. I've seen a bunch of athletes and singers go that route. Yeah. The black turn white route. Yep, that's... Hey, Red Rover, Red Rover, come on, you know. Send them over, bro. Passing is passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if, like, and some of this is just, like, lore stuff.
33:22What about Whitney Houston? Did you ever get to meet her? I knew Whitney very well. No way. Yeah, I knew Whitney very well. She came to visit me in prison. When I was in prison, she came to visit me. She did? You're one of my good friends. And when was that, when you were in prison in New York? And no motherfucker, I'm up in Indianapolis. It's cold. I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at. Yeah, I have a lot of, listen, I have a lot of really interesting visitors. A lot of really interesting people. Whitney came to visit you? Did she sing for you or anything like that?
33:54Or did she just come and spend time? No, she came. She brought her family. Her and her family came and they hung out with me. Who else came to visit you? I don't know. Quite a few people. Yes, names and names or something. What about Michael Landon? He was dead, man. Was he dead? He was dead then. I was, he had cancer back there. So, listen. Patrick Swayze. He was dead too, I think. What? Why all the white people die in your stories, I'm starting to notice. That is why. Hey, Florence Henderson came. No way. The people came, yes. But listen to this. She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole.
34:29I had to fight with one of the guards. So I'm not going to come out. If you come out the hole, you got to come out changed. So I said, I'm not going to come out like that. I said, forgive me. I didn't want to do that. Because you didn't want her to see you like that. I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet and all that crap. It looks crazy. Yeah. When they put you into the whole, so I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right? And then one hour of light? Or vice versa, the other way? No, it leaves the light on all night. Oh, the light's on all night? Light on all night. Oh, that's good.
34:57I mean, at least in case you get up or whatever. It gives you a fucking headache. Oh, yeah. 24 hours a day for like what? 10 weeks. Nuh-uh. Yeah. What starts to happen to somebody in there? Like, is it anything helpful? Yeah. The peace, the solitude is healthy. Very healthy, the solitude. And what's the... Most of us, believe it or not, are not able to be by ourselves for a long period of time. You know, we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves where we adore ourselves. We can't stop being in our own presence. and I guess that's the way to be constant happiness and love even though we go to the batch it makes that beautiful too yeah I think I don't know in my life like I feel like in my life my whole life I was waiting for somebody to show up right I don't even really exactly know who it was but then like recently I'm realizing that I think I'm just waiting for me to show up does that make any sense to you I don't want to ask so you have to get you know i mean that's your narrative how does that guy appears how do you make that guy appear right the first thing that i'm that i'm learning for myself and some of this is pretty recent is just like having some integrity like you know if i say i'm like because if i say i'm gonna do something and i don't i hear myself do that right and so after a while i don't even believe myself i think after a while i could even listen to myself because it's like well how many times am i going to lead myself on you know um i don't know if that's exactly true but I think that's the best answer I have for that.
36:33It's always the power of power. It's always the power of power. I'm from the world that you come from as well, the recovery world, and it's a battle. Some guys sold for 20 years, all of a sudden, boom, they go to drugs and kill themselves. It's a constant battle. No one's ever a winner to the end of the day until it's over and we're dead. Then you won. If you ever do any drugs and you beat the system, that was killing you, you're going to die, boom. But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for 30 years and go back. Yeah. You know what I mean? You just can't believe it. So you're never safe. Okay, you're never safe.
37:11Yeah, nobody's going to get out of here alive. I learned that in rehab. Yeah. It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it? It's kind of funny. Nobody gets out of here alive. As you get older, one of the things that gets a little bit exciting is dying because it's a new adventure. I don't listen. Does that make sense? That makes too much sense. Death is another part of life we just never experienced yet. You know, if life is good, how could death be bad? Be honest. If God loves us, how could death really be bad? If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it?
37:44If we didn't think it was final, then how would we behave in this time that we're here? Well, listen, God prepares us. The universe prepares us for death. You know, little by little, we lose our friends. We lose people we care about. We lose our hair. We lose our teeth. We lose our life. It's nothing that happens spontaneous. You know, it's meant to be. Yeah, we lose our ability to be around black people safely because I've said the N-word. Yeah. No, you know what I mean? Black people love you. You're a nigga lover. You're not a nigga hater. Hey, that's a good point, bro. Thanks for looking out for me.
38:21I hope they're not able to cancel you on this show. We talked about niggers. niggas always got people careful it never fails a nigga will get you the word nigga it's great to see some equality at last are you sometimes amazed when you look at your life how much grace God has had in your life I realize that if you don't believe in God look at me because I should not be right here talking to you no you probably did not Listen, no, really, when I'm in my 30s, I said, yes, God did a really dirty trick. He allowed me to live to be 60. God damn. If I knew I was going to live to be 60, I would have played the game.
39:09Yes, sir. No, ma 'am. Yes, sir. Fuck, you suck right there. Fuck, yeah. I went that route instead. Fuck. Imagine 60 years. Yes, sir. How you doing, man? Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro. I'd walk right into heaven, man. Sit at my table. Yeah, if I'd have been. Yeah, I think there's something about like when you feel like you're doing everything yourself. Like, did you feel like that as a kid? Like everything. I'll figure this out. I'll handle it. Like, did you have that like chip on your shoulder? Do you feel like? I had a mentor. When I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself.
39:44Really? I want to say beautiful things about myself. Customers taught you that? Yes. And what did he tell you exactly? I want to say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not.
39:59It's pretty, isn't it wild how there's something? No, but I learned that at 12 years old. I had to learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20. You know, if I learned that at 15, 16, hey, it probably wouldn't have worked out that I've been champion 22 probably. Yeah. Everything worked out for the right reason. What was one of the hardest walks to the ring you ever had to make? all the walks are the same, pretty much. You know, it becomes a routine. Was there one that, like, you didn't want it or things had changed or you were, like, I don't know, I've never been a fighter. I always wanted it because every time I got in the ring, when I lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family.
40:48Right, you were providing for your family for sure. Yeah, that's all I know how to do. So when did you, when did you become an adult? Excuse me? Oh, that happened late in life. That happened real late in life, man. I can't even tell you, man. I wasn't, I was probably, who, what, 45 or something? Oh, dude, I freaking wet the bed when I was 27. That's mental illness. That's mental illness. Mental illness. Yeah. Yeah, it is. but they don't say that they just call you Mr. Drippy Drop or whatever they call you Mr. Pissy Pissy Cool they call you little yellow boy yellow boy but yeah what do you think made you start to turn like finally I gotta grow up or something happened I'm becoming cause some guys took my pigeons and bullied me and that was the first time I fought back and it was like love that first fight.
41:53I never stopped fighting ever since. Some guy, they... He took it and he ripped my bird's head off. What? Yeah, he was a dirty, rotten kind of guy back there. You remember him? Yeah. Who was he? Gary Flowers. Fuck him. Never forget his name. How could he do it? You know, he was a young kid back then, rotten guy, being a bully. I was a little fat kid. They bullied me all the time. Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like, had some glandular issues or whatever. I'm not going to break a bird's neck. It's just, that's all about humiliating people. Oh, it was like a humiliation thing. Right, I'm going to make you feel this way.
42:31Did you ever get him back? Oh, I beat the dog shit out of him. Yeah.
42:38That's the best thing happened because every day I fought. I once fought three times a day. I can't stop fighting. I loved it so much. And were you having trouble finding people to fight? Oh, no. They used to bring people for me to fight for money. Oh, really? Yeah. And so who would get the money? The guy would say, listen, if you win, you get this much. If you lose, you get this much. So no matter what, you made some money. You made some money. What's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money? I don't know. Some weed and some candy. Yeah. Weed and candy, bruh. That's what I'm talking about, bruh.
43:12I have the munchies ready for the munchies. Now and ladies. Can I eat now and ladies? Dude, yeah, but they make your teeth stick together. I know, but it's good when you're high. Yeah, you're right. You're high, you don't mind. You know, I know your teeth is out with it in the gung. You ever see that before? Teeth is out in the now. Oh, the shape of your teeth are in them? Yeah, that shit was cool, bro. I like that shit, man. I really like that, man. You ever had some black pussy?
43:42What is...
43:47I'm just asking, guys, between me and them, please don't respond. I mean, I've had, yeah, I mean, during the holidays one time I had a little. That's true. I'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan. I mean, a black girl. Oh, I'm talking about some real, yeah, some of that freaking, yeah. I'm just saying like I'm just trying to think I guess I had some I had I've had a little I've had a little I have had Mike I have actually You put halfway in You put it all the way in that one is that little you put it in a little So you put it in a lot It doesn't go in a lot It's more the hokey pokey Okay.
44:39You go in, she comes out. But I've had a little, man. I've had a little, and I... Yeah, I would get some more. I would... Yeah, I'd get some more sometime. You know? What kind of black woman do you dream about fucking? What's the body shape? Name somebody's body shape. Well, some black women, you fuck them, and they fuck back kind of, you know? They got that vagina kind of... It'll fuck you back, you know? It's almost like when you... The last hundred years ago that I fucked a white girl, she did that too. She did the same thing. But I almost tried to, I was flirting with this black lady that worked at the airport for a while, but they said move along eventually.
45:19Did you get free flights? No, I did not like that. You didn't get free flights? Why didn't you mess with her then? I'm not going to date no girl at the airport and I'm not getting free flights, man. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I don't know. Look, man, maybe you'll set me up with a good gal that you know. I don't know any good girls. I know good time. I know people good girls, I give you good time. Did you ever have like a... Because Hollywood, people steal people's spouse or girlfriends, boyfriends. Did you ever have somebody steal a girlfriend of yours here? I'm sure they did, but I just don't know about it.
45:52You didn't? Yeah. I feel bad, actually, because I was saying that question, but I knew another question I was going to ask. Ask the best. Somebody said that Brad Pitt stole a girlfriend of yours one time. No. Oh, that's an interesting story. Yeah. All right. No, it didn't steal up for me, but... Me and my wife were going through a divorce, but we were still fucking, right? Okay. We were always fucking every night. We were still fucking. Then we'd fight in the paper. Then we'd fucking like... But one day, I went over to the house to fuck her she wasn't at home. And then driving up the road with the BMW that I bought her, and she had some...
46:29I thought it was one of her friends from the head of the class, but it wasn't one of her friends. there was some nigga, Brad Pitt, trying to get some head. Nuh-uh. Yeah, so... That honky was with her? Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Damn. Damn. Brad honky. That honky was trying to slide, huh? The dirty dog. I love you. The fact that we got to call Brad Pitt a honky is fucking hilarious. He's a beautiful brother. But you caught him in the driveway? Yeah, he was beautiful. I was just... Did you punk him a little? No. I guess he is Brad Pitt. At least if your girl's going to be with somebody, if it's Brad Pitt, that's okay.
47:17Yeah, I guess you're Brad Pitt. You know what I'm saying? But he wasn't Brad Pitt yet. Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet? No, I didn't know the fuck he was. He was just Brad? Yeah. And she was driving him. He didn't have a car. Oh, that's some Brad shit. Brad never got a car, bro. Name seven Brads that have cars, bro. None of them bastards. Yeah. Oh. Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life? I've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life. You know, love is so many entities, you know what I mean? Love has been, you've gotten in so much trouble? No, I don't have trouble with love.
48:02I have trouble with me. Love has nothing to do with it. Love has trouble with you? No, it's me with the trouble. Love has no beef with me. Love's supposed to do what it does. I'm supposed to do what I do. And that's what we do.
48:22You think you're hard to love or not? You think you're hard to love? I think I'm a quiet taste. I'm humble enough to know that I could be replaced, but I'm confident to know that nobody in the world is like me.
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54:11I don't make too many plans, you know. I met your wife now, Kiki. Yeah, very interesting person, huh? I'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice lady. You can say she's a very interesting person. She is very interesting, I'm sure. I don't know her well. She has very kind eyes, and she seems like she really cares about you. So those are things that I noticed. And you guys have some beautiful children. I saw some of them. One of them, I think, is here. Maybe two. Two of them. Michael. Miguel. But? Miguel. Miguel. Lo siento. And Milan. And Milan. Yeah. Kiki seems to just have like, she wants to make sure that you're okay, right?
54:54Is there like, what's it like now with this relationship? What's this marriage like?
55:02I don't know. That's too perfect. We need a little bullshit in that old thing. Yeah, we're cool. We have a great connection. We bullshit every now and then. What's something you really love about her? I just love her being a mother. She's an awesome mother, awesome wife, and an all-around beautiful person. I really hit the jackpot with this monkey. She's a little precious. Where did you meet Kiki at? I knew her since she was like 1918. Yeah. Is she like a strong woman in the household? Like, what's that kind of energy like? Like, does she make you get up early or anything? No, that's the whole thing.
55:40I don't have to move. What's that? My wife, I don't have to move. Yeah? Yeah, I don't have to move. She takes care of me, everything. I got the real wife that, you know, cooks for me, brings my food to my place. If I'm tired, she'll feed me. I got it going. Oh, you got a queen, huh? Yeah. That's nice. then she's also she's also my my pet and she's also my tiger too she's my defender so she has that in her too hmm no you gotta have somebody that has that oh you have to there's nobody that has more fury than a woman and that's just in general there's nobody that fights more fearful than a woman oh dude they can make a child if you and I laid on her back for nine months.
56:27We couldn't make shit. No. No. Listen, they could bleed nine months and leave. We had a little cut on our head and we had affection to die. You know? Women are a special breed. Yeah, well, they're wizards. They're damn wizards, I'll say that. But they are also a great breed. No, that's the biggest gift God could ever give us is a woman. Yeah. The most precious gift God could ever give us is a woman. Yeah, that's the truth. I agree. I agree, man. Hey, this is our show. Yeah. You heard the man. I think, like, fathering and fame would seem like it's really hard for me. It's miserable. How about your life?
57:12I don't have any children yet. Oh, God bless you, man. What? God bless you, because this doesn't work well with children. Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence my children's life for people to look at them a certain way or have certain expectations out of them. But not fear that much. But your life has been at an insane amount of that. What was that? Did it make it hard for you? What was it like fathering and having your life and the fame? I don't know. My kids have a great life. And if they ever started complaining, they should think about it. They should have had my father.
57:45Then they would have a right to complain. They do not have a right to complain. My kids go to the best schools the world can offer. They have the best opportunities the world can offer. It's up to them to take advantage of it. Hmm.
58:01Where was your father from? North Carolina. Oh, dude, no way. I'm going to freaking Wilmington this weekend. Charlotte. He's from Charlotte. Oh, Charlotte? Charlotte's okay. I'm fine. I've never been here. You haven't? I'm fine with it. I will tell you this story. So one time I was in Charlotte, right? And I hadn't been there before. My friend and I were sitting on a patio. We were just getting something to eat. and I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage out there, right? And they were wearing a couple of different shawls or rugs, almost like a bunch of tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage.
58:36And I thought it was like a homeless guy, almost like a French homeless guy, right? Because he's... French? Well, just he was a very... French? And North Carolina? Well, just because of the elegance of the shawls and stuff, they seem very... French-ish. Very French-ish. And, yeah, French-ish. And it was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street. Are you serious? I swear, that is a true story. And that's the truth. It was him, dude. I keep looking. I'm like, damn, they've got the most beautiful, elegant homeless around here. They really vibing. And then I'm like, I saw people run up and get photos.
59:18And it was Cam Newton. He just had a newborn child. and he was taking it for a little afternoon stroll out there by the McCormick and Schmicks out there. You have anybody you're in love with? Do you have anybody I'm in love with? Yeah. I mean, I'm crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Nobody off the top of my head. You're not with a woman right now? No, I'm not with a woman right now. No, you're not kicking it with no one right now? I mean, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying that, yeah. How old are you? I'm 46, dude. I'm an adult. You got the fucking hair. You got that fucking hair. As long as you got that hair, you got the advantage of that pussy.
1:00:00What's the hair go, guys? That hair is serious pussy advantage right there. The hair. So how about the hair? If you'd have had hair, you think you'd have been even more handsome? If I had hair, I wouldn't be married. I'd be in lawsuits and all that shit. He's paying lawsuits That's crazy bro Hair is power That's why When they did that About Samson Because really Hair is power Well that's what Even when they used to Scout people and stuff And take their hair They was taking You know They would take it That's why I grew my hair A lot of people The hair represents power That's why they always Trying to Cut your hair Boy you're not like A animal Cut your hair Cut your hair Keep your fucking hair Yeah bitch I want to be an animal Yeah keep your fucking hair Because once you lose your hair You go always say, God, I wish I had it back.
1:00:47Some guys say, oh, I was in the way. No one's in the way, motherfucker. You wish I had your hair back. If the only thing was in the way of was in the way of you being a little bitch, that's the only thing you want, huh? Don't let that hair grow. Don't care how much you grow. Let it grow. Brave, that shit. Let the people say, oh, you're an animal. You can't get a job. You can get a job with a lot of hair now. Yeah, you can get a job at Picking Target. You can get a job as a mechanic's assistant. Anything, anything. That makes more money than the average person by far. Yeah. Bro, you could just brush your hair online and dudes will pay to watch you do it.
1:01:18Yo, listen, that online thing, it's either the best thing a pedophile could ever dream of or else it's the biggest hit in the world. One of the other. It's the worst, bro. Have you seen times change, bro? Same. But, like, how bad? Like, things are not bad, but things have gotten so much different. It's gotten away from the moment. Everything became sexual lately. you know why everybody's worried about who's sleeping with who everybody's worrying about who genders who and who looks like this and it's all about that now yes uh there used to be so much more i think i don't know when you couldn't record everything the moment was so great but because then also if i needed to know a story the only way i could get it was from you or from somebody that told it well yes and so that person had like i don't know they had an ambiance about it there I might be a dude in town.
1:02:10All he did was tell one good story. That's happened since the beginning of life. Yeah. And now it's suddenly different. Yeah. And now we have people out here losing their minds and shit. Killing themselves, hurting themselves. Killing themselves, Mike. Dude, nobody killed themselves. When I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves. If you were angry or depressed, you just listened to heavy metal and walked around town. Remember that? Yes. But man, it's just interesting that people are doing that now. We're sick, though. There's something poisoning us. Do you agree with that? 100%. I know the government know what it is.
1:02:46Yeah, they ain't telling. You know, because death is profitable. You know, people cashing on your insurance and all that shit. Death is very profitable. Even at the morgue. Dude, my buddy freaking died. They put new shoes on him, charged his family 300 bucks. I'm like, bitch, he's wearing them for 50 minutes. Just get a rental. and they got a whole fresh pair. That's crazy, man. But I agree, there's something the government knows, man. So now people are going to have to rise up. Something's going to have to happen. Do you believe that people have that in us still? I believe this. I believe that some people, even the elite people, they have money and have the resources to live longer, healthier.
1:03:29You know? Imagine being 90 and living healthy. You can still run. You can still fuck. You can still do things. and family. Junk, falsehood. Exactly. No, seriously. Yeah, I feel you. You think that's possible for some people right now and they're hiding in the house? absolutely right. Absolutely. The bullshit that I use now, all this medicine and all this shit and they can't, it's just crazy. Yeah. Feel young, that's all, that's why I be going fighting again and I feel good. Next thing, they're going to give you something, they kind of got now, that thing you sniff and it makes you smarter. What is it?
1:04:06I don't know what it is. No, listen. You're laughing now, but when it comes out, you can say, Mike was talking about that. You'll be hitting that shit in there. I don't know. If you get too smart, you might have a fucking brain collapse, right? Bunch up an aneurysm or some shit. I don't want to. There's a lot of shit I don't want to know. Dude, the smarter I get, I feel like the more I hurt, bro. No, but listen, they got stuff. Check this out. Imagine somebody said, I have something to this needle that'll make you last 30 more years strong. It'll make you a thick day, half, 24 hours. Something like that.
1:04:44That's what people are working at. Whatever our biggest kinks are. Right. It'll be sex, it'll be alcohol. They give you a shot. There's no more alcohol in your life. No more drugs in your life. It's going to be all about the needles soon and pills. Oh. The needles and pills. Were you ever a needle user or not? Well, I use a lot of needles. Yes, I have. Yeah, I use a lot of needles. Dude, because that's a different barrier. When you go into drug use, like, I've used a lot of stuff. I never use no needles. I've used, like, steroids, but I never used, like, you know, shooting up. Like, whatever it's called.
1:05:21Heroin. Heroin, yeah. Yeah, I never used it. Now, I wish I would have smoked crack. I will say that. Who? Steroid from crack. Really? You don't normally come back. Really? Why don't you go crack? They don't come back. What was it? Did you ever get to smoke it? I did once. Oh, this is going to be fucking crazy. I got to tell you this. Please do. So one day, I do my monthly checkup, but I'm still getting high. I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer. And he gets my probation officer. He gets my blood test. I'm not even thinking. And he comes back. I come back. He said, we just test you for crack but I could tell what they call them what do you call a crackhead oh crack a what tweaker he said yeah but I had it in me but he said yeah I know a tweaker you're not a tweaker that's a forced test I said fuck he knew by sight yeah he said I could tell a tweaker He said, you're not a tweaker.
1:06:30Because it was by accident. I didn't know it was a crack. Oh, it was just in there. Yeah, I took it without the guy telling me. I didn't know. And the cop said that to me. He said, yeah, you got a false test, but I could tell the tweaker you're not a tweaker. Amen. I'm glad. Thank you for telling me that word tweaker. Thank you for the tweaker, God. That's good stuff. And I said, fuck. That guy gave me that shit. That's the thing. You don't know what you would get. Exactly. And I didn't know if that was fentanyl. I'd be dead as a motherfucker. You got out before fentanyl, thank God. My wife would tell you, right?
1:06:59It came on the news that Mike died from a drug overdose at his party. And my wife thought it was on the news. And the only thing, I come in the house a couple hours later, my wife screamed at me, cursed at me, oh, fuck, I'm high. I just left the house and kept running. It was a false story? Yeah, it was on the news, too. My wife saw me and hit me. I got his car at the house. I left. Oh, she was pissed even if he was alive? She was pissed I was alive. I was hunting her mother. Damn, bro. That sounded loud. And her mother was pissed too? Yeah, I told her they were crying every day. They think I'm dead.
1:07:35They checking morgue and shit. And hospitals. And I walked through the door high. I'm coked up high and drunk. I just left out. Fuck this shit. These motherfuckers, they don't love me. Dude, yeah. You ever had those days where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not? Yeah. Absolutely. So listen, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to tell you this bullshit story. So I can't get any sleep. So I'm calling the person, my nose hurt like a motherfucker. Right? It's, ah, my nose, I'm going, ah. And so I'm calling the person and I'm saying, my nose is hurt. I'm fucking, I can't sleep. I've been up for four days.
1:08:20My nose is hurt. I got scabs on my nose. She said, your nose hurt? She said, you got the coke? I said, yeah. She said, hit it, hit it. I took a hit. I said, wow, that feels better. I never knew I had the coke all night. I took a hit. I numbed it up because it wasn't numb anymore. It started bleeding. It got sore. I had to take another hit to numb it up. Those nights are the worst, huh? Oh, man. The worst, bro. Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital, or did you have a private doctor? Yeah, this is true. Oh, God. Listen, I go to my doctor, right? Your doctor, hold on. Let's say, let's get a round of applause for Mike's doctor, bro.
1:09:05I go to my doctor, and I go like this. I said, I'm going to lay the spill on my doctor, and I'm going to quit cocaine right now. And he's checking me, right? He's giving me, you know, checking out. And he said, how you doing? I said, your doctor, you know, I'm feeling bad. I need to quit. And he said, what? I said, I need a quick Coke. He said, really? You taking a lot of this? I said, yeah. He said, you have some on you? I said, yeah. Can I have some? I said, fuck! The doctor, my brother, this is on my children's life. And I'm like, fuck! I'm trying to get help. I'm talking to the doctor, but I got a problem.
1:09:41He said, you have some on you now? He said, can I have some? And I took it. Was that Blue Cross Blue Shield? Who was that? No, I go to rehab now. They put me in rehab. And this is what I do. The guy, the rehab staffer comes up here and he tells me all the rules. And then I try to be a good guy, give him my coke, the last bit of coke. You know what I mean? I was doing coke before I came. You know, normally before you go rehab, you get really hot. Yeah. So I gave him the coke. I really wanted to get sober. I gave him the coke, my last coke. I said, here, I got some coke. He said, oh, you have some.
1:10:11Then he went, and the next time I saw him, he started acting funny. I said, I didn't think it better. I took my coke. Because I was some good coke. I wanted to be a good person and give it up. The motherfucker took my coke. So I said, hey, man, you took my fucking coke. You're going to start letting me have girls come over here. So he let me have girls come over there. After rehab? Yeah. What? My right hand on my children's life, man. Oh. Listen, I can't make shit like this. The rehab guy said, oh, you got coke? And I said, no, I don't want to get high. I'm going to try to live clean. This nigga go away for free.
1:10:46He comes back acting weird. I said, I know this motherfucker didn't take my coke. I don't got mad because I should have kept that shit then. Type shit. Oh, man. I got so fucking mad. Dude, I'll tell you this freaking story. So one time my friend we're getting out of Uber. He dropped some Coke, right? And I didn't know he did Coke. And I didn't know I did Coke, right? I'm in there. Yeah. So I pick his Coke up. I'd never seen it before. I just saw this little bag in it. I registered pretty quick. This is probably cocaine, right? And so we go inside. We're staying at my buddy Kevin's house. We go inside and he starts saying, hey, will you help me look for something?
1:11:26But he won't tell me what it is because he doesn't want me knowing that he's going to. He doesn't want to give me that. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is, bro. So I keep sneaking off and doing the coke because we're looking really hard, right? Bro, after like two hours, he goes to sleep. I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro. And I forgot what I was even looking for, but I kept looking, bro, because that's who I am. I'm committed. I'm that motherfucker that will ride with you, Mike. I got to tell you this story about cocaine, okay? Okay. I'm in, first I'm in Jamaica, right?
1:12:06And I leave Jamaica, hang out with Jamaica, hang out there. And I go to Cuba for, you know, it's very close. Hour, half an hour. Did you get to meet Fidel in Cuba or not? No, interesting. Check this out. So I'm in Cuba, right? I'm hanging out and so guy meets me hey you're Mike Tyson right yeah hey Mike Tyson what's wrong I have lots of money yeah you need a girl this is a possibility yes I do
1:12:35you're a fucking genius so he takes me he takes me around it's nothing but bricks and rocks and bandits look like Obama disgusting and I'm like I think this guy setting me up to get mugged or something in there, right? And all of a sudden, this beautiful girl, she had raggedy clothes on, she comes out of this fucking, the clap, the lapidated building that looks like a hip-hop bomb. Nobody lives in there. This is all abandoned shit. And she comes out. I said, what the fuck? Wow. Yeah, but this is why I'm talking about Castro. You know, the natives there were unable to live. They can't go in the hotels there.
1:13:11The people that live in the residence. Because they don't want to be talking to people that are visiting? I don't know, but they're not allowed to go in the hotel. Mr. Castro allowed me to take people to my hotel. They let me do whatever I wanted to do over there. Yeah, he was really nice. I think I had a fight. Yeah, I threw bottles. I didn't get arrested or nothing. What? He was telling people, leave me alone. Let me do what I want. Damn. Anybody else that had been throwing bottles and stuff in Cuba, they would have got fucked up. They would have been in the hospital. Then they would have been in the infirmary.
1:13:42Yeah. Then they would have been in jail. What made you want to go to Russia? Because that was kind of like a, like why, you know what I'm saying? I don't even know. First of all, did they even at the time have black people in Russia? Yes. Did they really? Because they never put them on like the websites or anything. No, they came to Russia around 1909. Black people did? Yeah. You know, and I met black Ukrainian. I met black Russian. It was really amazing. Wow. Because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right? No, until they start talking. Yeah. Wow. Dude, that's cool. That's one cool thing about traveling sometimes, bro.
1:14:25This is a true thing. You might see somebody that looks like you and their mother might be black and their father might be white or something, African or something. Well, you just realize that, like, oh, there's so many people out there. Like, when I was in my little town, I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right? Listen, let me tell you something about Russian people and Ukrainian people, right? Listen, no, yeah, listen. I'm up there, right? And so we got some call girls, supposedly call girls, right? Some call girls? Yeah, supposedly call girls. They're escorts, they call them.
1:15:00Yeah. And listen, I'm saying to myself, I want to talk to my friend in Yugoslavia. She talks Yugoslavia. She calls them that. I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China. She talks to the... The common call girl must speak around seven languages. A call girl in America can't even speak English. Can't speak her home language. These call girls speak seven languages. I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here to America? This girl be a Fortune 500 company. I'm telling you. She speaks eight languages and stuff. I've been to the best schools. She's a car girl? Dang. I'm like, whoa.
1:15:43And women here, they barely will even learn even one language or even one and a half languages. They're not even going to learn how to cook. Yeah. What do you mean? Language. They don't know how to cook. Dude, some women can barely use even emojis. I don't know how to use it either. Yeah. But still, you shouldn't have to, dude. You're Mike Tyson, man. No, I'm not saying women here have it made. Women here have it made. Have it made. the other country you can't have you can't have a say of nothing yeah I guess yeah I guess I don't realize how bad like women have it pretty bad in Japan you see mostly women if they're in prison in Japan because they killed their husband nuh uh majority of them yeah they can't stand the abuse anymore sometimes oh damn Japan can you imagine mm-mm because they're so peaceful a lot of times we had a Japanese substitute teacher and he didn't even say anything to us because he didn't want to bother us.
1:16:38That's how nice he was. We didn't learn anything. That's how scared he was. Yeah, that's how scared he was. We didn't learn anything for four days because he didn't even want to bother us. You fought in Japan against, was it, who was it? I had two fights in Japan. I did twice. Buster Douglas and someone else. Tony Tufts. Buster Douglas, that's when you won the championship? I lost the championship. Oh, damn. Sorry. Don't be sorry. I'm happy. I got$40 million. You got$40 million? $35, yeah. Wow. Same shit, though. Yeah, same, bro. I rounded even. Yeah. Dude, that's so wild, bro. But before that fight, were you training as hard, or were you just living the life?
1:17:23I was living the life, but he fought a great fight. Yeah. He fought a great fight. Dude, I remember we were like, I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at the time, and somebody had bought the fight with like a projector and they projected it on the side of like a building and everybody came downtown and watched it, dude. It was awesome, bro. It was a good time, man. It was like when you fought, it was like, it brought everybody, it was like watching the Challenger blow up. Everybody showed up, you know? The Challenger did, bro. Remember that? Everybody watched the whole television that whole day, watched it over and over again.
1:17:57That's like those guys that went in the water with those submarines and it combusts. from inside. Yeah. He took his son down. This guy took his son down there. But they went down there in a fucking McNugget. You know that shit's going to happen, dude. Bro, it said Cutlass on the side of it. It was a Delta 88. I'm like, you got in that, bitch? They just, I don't mind it. I shouldn't say that. They're good people. They got smashed. They didn't even feel it. Woo. They didn't feel it. That's tight, boy. Because I hate even getting in a small shirt. You ever put a small shirt on and you can't even get out of it?
1:18:29Oh, I like being a small cigarette. I'm a poppy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you might type it. Hulk Logan. Yeah. Dude, I went to Hulk's funeral, man. Did you really? Yeah. Tell me about that. It was pretty special, man. Well, it was a lot of things. It was like. Where was it at? Right outside of Tampa. Right outside of Tampa. And well, one thing that was interesting, Jim McMahon was there, but nobody knew he was there. And then at one point he came out like. Vince McMahon. Yeah. You ever met Jim McMahon? That's his father. No, Jim McMahon was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Remember him? Oh, he's badass.
1:19:06Yeah, he was. Funny glasses. Yeah, he had that mullet, dude. He showed me his freaking butthole one time in Palm Springs at a casino for no reason. No, it was a reason. It was a reason. He figured you out. He figured you out. That's like the quarterback. He's a great quarterback. Great perception. The quarterback was seven Ooh Ooh But look at this receiver Yeah Bro that's crazy dude But anyway you're right Keep that hole open Tell me about him showing you that butto Tell me about that How did that appear? What caused it? Well nobody was expecting it It was just like a regular night And um Have you ever hung out with him before?
1:19:53I never met him before And he was drinking beers and he kept, he was saving all the cans. I think he was like, he's like a, what's it called when you care about the nature, when you're like a... Asshole. Asshole, my ass.
1:20:12He was like, don't be saying that the legal have a lawsuit. You saw his asshole. I saw it. It was dark, I mean, but... Jim McMahon, you're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit that this man saw your asshole. What? Dude, why are you... You said you saw the asshole. He may think differently. He may say, if that was a cheek, that wasn't an asshole. Mike is working in, now you working for an attorney's office. Was it a cheek or an asshole? I don't know, man. Damn, you tricked me. I just said, I don't know. I knew it was a little while ago. You're right. I'm not sure. It was shadowy out, but I do remember we were by the pool.
1:20:55And it was nighttime. But anyway. He just saw him open up some cheeks, right? Spread his cheeks. Right, but everything in my, just like, mind, I guess, thought there was an asshole there. What did he say? Come get it, guys? No. Come on, guys. No, he wasn't saying anything like that. He was telling a joke about his ex-girlfriend or something, and then he said, and then he said the punchline. I don't remember it. I mean, he just kind of showed his butthole at the end. The running back, he said, come run up in the head. Who's the running back for this show? Who was the running back at the time? It wasn't Peyton, was it?
1:21:31No. Sayers? No, Sayers was early. Sayers too old. Was it? No, was it really? And 85 Bears was Peyton? Run up in here, big Tayden. Walter, come on. Come on, Walter. Get over here, Walter. You're the asshole, huh? I didn't mean to see it. But yeah, anyway, let's move on. But here's what I'm going to say is. so Vince McMahon comes out there nobody knew he was at the funeral and it was wild because they had guys like yeah well I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues right but a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there and they were kind of broken down you know somewhere in wheelchairs and some were like um some were some people had urns of other like uh of guys who had passed on they had their ashes just they brought them um but Vince McMahon got up and he did like he played Hulk's music and he did all like a lot of his like things you know and then he made like a speech and then he disappeared but uh but it was it was everything it was like you know he was so much of my childhood he was like one of the first person that I ever saw like in our neighborhood like a lot of people didn't have anything but when wrestling came on it felt like you had something I don't know why right?
1:22:40It's like a soap opera for kids. Yeah. You know we know the story they double team them they cut them up they put them to sleep they jump through them over the rope fucking yeah Yeah, all of that. But anyway, so that was like our hero. But sometimes we knew it was a storyline. But we, as kids, we thought, I think you believe it's so real. Oh, 100%. It was so good. So that was like one of our, that was one of our heroes. So to go was just, yeah, I don't know, it was pretty special. And his son like gave a speech. It was nice, man. It was just, but it didn't feel like he passed away because he's so much larger than that.
1:23:13Did you ever talk to Hope on this show? Yep. And I'll tell you this, when I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand, I was like, that's the that's the strongest person I'd ever could we give a mini hug I walked out and said, that's the strongest person I've ever given a mini hug to the second strongest was Hulk Hogan. Really? Hulk was massive. Man, he was a big star he was just such a big star you could never imagine how big he was Who was like a hero like that? Bruno San Martino Bruno San Martino? That was my hero, my guy Wow. He could beat everybody. He was champion for 12 years. Yeah, he's amazing.
1:23:50He could beat everybody. He was champion. Listen, I was seven until I was like, what, seven to like 20 almost. Yeah. Champion. He was a legend, man. Yeah. I got to interview one of the Von Erics one time, Kevin Von Erick. I don't know if you remember. They died in the court. Yeah. Listen, man. I'm a historian. Don't play with me now. Yeah. Ask me some questions. I'm a historian. I have read actually that you like studied a lot of like, like you really enjoy like philosophy, like Tolstoy, Alexander the Great. Who were some like famous warriors that you admire the most kind of in history? Oh, all of them.
1:24:30Achilles, Alexander, Hannibal. There was just El Cid. There was just so many different concepts. You say, why do you want to do this? Because no, I ain't some of them want to be God. They believe if I control all this world, If I control the world, I'm a god. And at the end of the day, they realized they were nothing. You know? But can you even relate to that? Did you ever have a time in your life where you're, because our ego is one of the scariest things, right?
1:25:00You can only play with the thought of it. It's not sincere, not real. Yeah. Only way you're a god is if you live forever. You're immortal. We know, but we have demigods now. Now we have authors that turn people into gods. What do you mean by that? Some people will never be forgotten. Napoleon and all these guys. To know your history, you have to know these people. They're part of history. We can't know our history if we don't know these people. That's what makes them godly. Only if we know them. You never get to know them unless you read about them. They're only in special places to know their identity Did you like What was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego Because like ego is just so scary right I don't know my ego is It's so Personal I don't know how to even I just want to do better than before I don't think I have You know I do think I'm Alexander the Great sometimes And what are you talking about You do like you dressing up in the bedroom What you doing, a little role playing?
1:26:11Put on that ATG hat. It says ATG on it. No, it's just that the way I conduct myself. He was a cancer too, my Alexander. And what his downfall was, was he's moody. I learned that not to let my moods control my feelings. He was really moody. That was his downfall. What helped you have discipline? Say something like that you noticed about yourself. What helped you create some little disciplines like that? The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it. You do that, that's discipline. And is that something you've really practiced? That's all I've practiced my whole life, even now.
1:26:52Did you always love fighting or did you hate fighting? No, I loved it. I loved the concept of fighting. I loved the fighters. I was one of the greatest fighters in the world to know my name. I would, you know, I would be on my knee, kiss their hands, kiss their feet. I loved them. I worshipped them. I believe if they touched me, they'd leave some magic on me. So I always wanted to be around. I carried their bags for them. I gave them money. When I became a big time fighter, I always gave them money because they're normally broken down. They don't have no money. You know, most of them have dementia.
1:27:24So I always gave them money to care of them. Gave it and took it away if they got that dementia. You feel me? They run it right fast, right? But I used to tell them. But paying homage, you're saying? Yeah, I had to pay homage. If I didn't even see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today. These guys inspired me to be a fighter. I didn't want to be nothing else. Even though I saw that they turned out, I normally would turn out like these guys, nothing, begging. I still wanted to be a fighter. I don't care. I wanted to be in that fraternity. Dude, that's so interesting to hear. Yeah, I never think about that.
1:27:56It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just, we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves. Like there was so much influence in people that did something before us that like let us, no matter what our job is or what our thing is that we like to do in life. That's interesting, man. I forget about that sometimes. Like, yeah, sometimes I get, I don't get stuck there much, but sometimes it'll be like, oh, like, yeah, I made me. Good deal. Do you ever think about who you are? How you really got here? What you really consist of? Is there something more than you? Are we going to see each other again at another time?
1:28:31Are we living in parallel life? Is this right here going on somewhere else in life? We have so much energy, we don't even know about ourselves. We know everything else, but we know nothing about us. Oh, yeah, dude. I didn't, like, most of my life, I wasn't even me. I was just, like, some survival mechanism that had started off. Does that make any sense to you? A hundred percent. That's the first thing that happens. Self-preservation starts first. and then once we get situated, then we try to figure everything else out. Yeah. Yeah, man, it took forever. Like, it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know?
1:29:10I understand. I understand, brother. I understand. And then it's scary because there's times I thought, man, like, I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy. I might want somebody that worked at like a clothing, like a haberdasher or whatever, like a singer. but that was the first thing that I could get people to like. You get attention. Yeah, I see you. And so I couldn't, like I was just, I didn't have another choice. That formed everything I was, you know? I wanted to be seen so much. I was a little baby and my mother and her friend, everybody was having fun drinking. I put my finger in drain and I put it in my mouth and I started screaming and everybody grabbed me and took me to the hospital.
1:29:50But I wanted that attention at such a young age. Yeah. Oh, I love going to the hospital, dude, because... They had good food back then, too. And they give you attention, bro. Yeah. Dude, they had a couple ladies would come in and care about you. Even a gay dude, they slip in there every now and then. But still, bro, that Jim McMahon. Love is love, I think. Hey, bro. Love is love. I got a question, Mike. Did anybody ever... Because I just got back from Lexington, right? Lexington, Kentucky, and they have the derby race there, and it's a beautiful place. We just shot a special for Netflix actually that's coming out in like about two months.
1:30:27So I'm excited about that. But did anybody ever approach you to buy your semen? And I mean that honestly. And I don't mean that in like a negative word. No, I mean, I gave it away free. Why didn't they want to buy it?
1:30:47Bro. Dude, we're giving our busted ass semen away out here. You over there, dang, bro. and free. What? I had no idea they were selling, they were buying. Dude, I'd be a billionaire right now. You can still, bro, as long as you can still warm up a badge, bro, you can sell it at the merch stand over here. If I was single, I would. Oh, look, that's true. He might have an issue with it. I'd be a maniac. God, bro, I could get rid a couple ounces for you out back at his joint today, man. I'm happy the way my life is now. Yeah? What's a few things, before we go, Mike, what's a few things that make you, that bring you some of the most joy that you have today?
1:31:37And that can be something small, it could be anything. Just my children don't have to live the life that I live. That's the only thing, that's all I care about. Is it? That's all I care about. Yeah, is that something? And this might even make them strong, but I won't take the risk. It might kill them too. Wait, say that one more time for me. I say it might even make them strong, but it might kill them too. Oh, they have to go through the same stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to take the chance. I like the way they live it now. Yeah. Well, you did it. Yeah, man. A lot of help. A lot of help. A lot of help.
1:32:10Yeah. Yeah, we don't do it alone. Excuse me? No, no way. No way. You realize real quick when you have children, you need help. Yeah. You need a lot of help. Thank you so much for joining us today, Mike. I want to say that. Don't worry about it.
1:32:32You have a one-man show that's going to be, that's a live show that your wife wrote. Is that right? Yes, she did. Wow. And did she have to get you to sign off? Did y 'all do some teamwork or what was it? Sign off for what matter? That this is her work and I don't get any money for it? What do you mean, sign off? I mean, did she just like say, or was it like, did you guys like, how do you put that together? Because it's interesting that she would write it. Is it just about - It's talk. It's talk. It's talk. It's talk about dark shit. You know, and it works out well. Yeah. Like, you'll love it when you hear the midget story.
1:33:09You got a good one in it? Oh. And it's in the show? Oh, yeah. Save some of it. Yeah, I want to - You know what? I'll come out to one. You got to check this out, man. I'll come out. I'll even come on stage and just listen to it. I'll put on something little for you. Not for you, for just, I'll just wear it. Tell me about Ludo. How Ludo works. How that works. I'll put on a small shirt. Is it thong? You'll wear a thong? Nah, nah, bro. I'm just saying a small shirt. But you have that one-man show that's going to be, and that's going to be a tour. We'll see. Okay. We'll see how much they're paying me for it.
1:33:43We'll see. And you have, and you have your documentary that's coming out on Netflix. Yes, I do. You do.
1:33:53If, uh... Your guys know every fucking thing about you. I know it. What the fuck? I don't know. We learned a lot tonight, dude. If Cus D 'Amato could see you now and see your whole life, right? If he could see your whole life, you know, and just get to spend some time with you today, do you think, like, what would be something that you would like to, like a moment you would like to see with him or have him say? What do you think would be something that he'd be impressed by? I would say Cus. everybody in the world says I'm the best ever. What do you think?
1:34:29What do we think, guys?
1:34:34But know what he would say? Know what Cuss would say? What would he say, buddy? You didn't move your head enough. If that guy was a little faster, he would have hit you.
1:34:48If that guy was a little faster, that he would have hit you. Yeah. Knock a guy out in eight seconds. He was a little faster he met you. Had your head up. Man, thank you so much for sharing your time with us today. For bringing your family here today. Just for the opportunity that we get to see you. They all love you. I don't know who the fuck you are. Yeah. My family, my kids love you. Who the fuck? Hey, do you know the truth, dude? I don't know who the fuck I am either, bro. I wish I did too. But hey, but I love you, man. Thank you so kindly, bro. And that's the truth. and all. And thank you.
1:35:22Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson.
1:35:32Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found. I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take
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